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Title: The Cry Bullies Claim to oppose Fascists and Nazis Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/10/17 at 13:58:22 Yet , it's THEIR behavior that Is exactly what they Say they oppose. Nobody is attacking the lefties, beating them up, at least not Unprovoked. Stop with the pretense of Peaceful Protest. The agenda is made public. Obstruct the paths of those who want to go somewhere that You have decided is bad. You don't want to go? Don't go. But you Have no Right to hinder anyone else who wants to go. When did destroying private property and assaulting people become things that fall under the umbrella of Tolerance? Who made you the arbiters of right and wrong? Where is your authority to demand where others go or not go? And, if you can decide for others today, what will you do when others believe They can decide for you? If you want freedom for yourself, the best insurance for that is to protect the freedom of others. ################ WHEN EVIL IS CALLED VIRTUE Take a close look at this week's cartoon. It carries a hidden message that is easy to miss. The irony is clear enough that the violent leftist demonstrators in the US, whose political ideology is identical to classical Fascist doctrine, seek to deny freedom-of-speech to those who disagree with them. That, too, is classical Fascism. Yet, these people have the gall to label those they attack as Fascists. But the deeper message is that the demonstrators in every part of the country follow the same style book. They shout slogans and chants that are crafted to create the impression that they are virtuous and trod the moral high ground. They shout obscenities and assault people while chanting: "Shame. Shame. Shame." Observers are thereby programmed to feel that, even though the rioters are obnoxious, their actions are justified by the virtue of their cause and the evil they oppose. This tactic is called 'virtue signaling' and it is studied at war colleges and universities specializing in psychological warfare. I recall reading about a similar strategy years ago in a manual for guerilla warfare. It stressed the importance of winning the support of peasants and local townspeople by convincing them that the guerillas are motivated by high ideals, such as a desire for peace, freedom, equality, and opposition to tyranny. It is obvious that this tactic did not just occur simultaneously to the organizers. They are not products of a spontaneous uprising of the masses but part of a network of professional agitators with lots of training and money behind them. In my view, one of the most important things that must be done by the Trump administration is to put these Fascist revolutionary organizations out of business, and the best way to do that is to cut off their funding from abroad and from within. Let's start with from within. The name George Soros comes to mind. G. Edward Griffin 2017 February 3 You're being played like fiddles. Used to accomplish what can't be accomplished by an attacking army. Your butthurt and willingness to angrily attack people and destroy property, left unchecked, will eventually bring federal and state authorities into the picture, and we all lose then. It's been three months, and the admonitions from the left, telling everyone how America expects the right to allow for a peaceful transition of power, still ring in my ears. Sit down, wait, see what happens. We did. America watched as the left stood silent while our military continued what has been going on for years. Can't you people just allow a flaming homo who prefers black men to speak? If the right is So homophobic, so raci s t, WHERE DOES HE FIND AN AUDIENCE? Another question that will go unanswered. |
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Title: Re: The Cry Bullies Claim to oppose Fascists and N Post by raydawg on 02/11/17 at 06:55:01 Jog...... You really know the answer to this, don't you? To live in a society requires dialogue, communication. How else could we navigate, organize, structure, etc, in a manner that would not be chaotic and hectic, unless we expressed our self? Would you agree with that? So, if by dialogue, you don't get your way, then what? Lacking brain, you default, to brawn...... Its extremely primitive, draconian, and harmful to what the main goal, or purpose, was. Those of like mind, to the original issue, having not won their way, embrace this under the end justifies the means, mindset..... And again, not realizing, at least, consciously, that their behavior will only ultimately bring destruction, rejection, opposition, to the original issue. If any issue is forced, it will have resistance, and it will always be a San Andrea Fault, lying almost dormant, until one little point of contact won't hold its weight anymore. And the shaking begins....... It can tear down weak arguments, like a building, to its foundation. As you report, preaching tolerance with actions of intolerance, can never rest, as it has to be constantly shoring and propping up, those weak spots, so it won't fall. However, it will fall. Under the darkness of night, it would be a true statement to say you do not see any death, and destruction, scatter about the landscape from failed reasoning..... However, by mornings light, a new truth will be revealed. The light of day did not make the first observation a lie, no, but the light provided those who had the courage, and conviction, to seek truth, by removing their blinders, to see the oblivious. Make sense? |
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Title: Re: The Cry Bullies Claim to oppose Fascists and N Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/11/17 at 07:53:32 Yeah, good post, but the point is, the left only Claim tolerance. They are DOING what they say they oppose. And following a proven, historically proven, recipe. It's almost as if the leadership is educated in the arts of social conflict. |
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Title: Re: The Cry Bullies Claim to oppose Fascists and N Post by Serowbot on 02/11/17 at 08:04:57 Quote:
Protesting against fascism,.. is not fascist... ::) |
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Title: Re: The Cry Bullies Claim to oppose Fascists and N Post by raydawg on 02/11/17 at 08:28:33 554A4C4B5651605060584A460D3F0 wrote:
Manipulation is a very strong tool. In a free society, unfettered, it can dominate and dictate. Look how, through advertising, it frames a product. They have studied the minds through countless studies, and have found you need to "hook" ones attention, or lets call it consciousness, quickly, to form, and pitch your product. Lets call that "complex simplicity" Once seated, you now manipulate it to a point of positive emotions, and thought. Now fertile, you plant a seed, and the end game, a sell. You present this in a manner that appears to make these, uh, victims (strong word) think they arrived at their choice(s) on their own accord.... However, if we look deeply we see some mischievous manipulating, like exaggeration, to reach our stated goal, a sell, or customer. Is it dishonest.....??? Well, it really is up to all to decide, as again, the "ends justifies the means" How do we reign in such behavior? Censorship? Restrict freedom of speech? Makes sense, if our goal is to protect those who lack the capacity to not fall victim to, "false advertising" and schemes.... But hey, would that not trample on the rights and liberties to engage in free enterprise, or those who have the capacity to decide for themselves? See, I think when we muddle the role of goverment by extending its responsibilities to assure more protection, we weaken the whole system upon which it was originally intended. It becomes a juggernaut, by such vastness alone! A moral compass, based upon an absolute, would be a great tool, but again, you can't force anybody to use it, or you've breached our freewill.... Or like you reference again, being intolerant to enforce, tolerance. |
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Title: Re: The Cry Bullies Claim to oppose Fascists and N Post by raydawg on 02/11/17 at 08:31:57 594F58455D48455E2A0 wrote:
When it becomes forceful, you bet it is..... Don't delude yourself to make a square peg fit a round hole. If my rights are infringed, be it movement, or association, you've actively crossed a line of being against (protesting) at the cost of another.... Who bestowed that right to you to decide my rights? It will be a circle argument, going round and round like a wheel, but going, nowhere..... |
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Title: Re: The Cry Bullies Claim to oppose Fascists and N Post by Serowbot on 02/11/17 at 08:42:12 36253D20253323440 wrote:
Violence is not fascism, Fascism is violent. ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: The Cry Bullies Claim to oppose Fascists and N Post by raydawg on 02/11/17 at 08:52:23 Sure, and ISIS is freedom of religion...... You get my reference, even if you pretend not to. I think I understand better as to why gloating gets under your skin. It's a beetch to be shot by your own gun. |
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Title: Re: The Cry Bullies Claim to oppose Fascists and N Post by Serowbot on 02/11/17 at 09:42:43 Not really,... calling protest Fascism whether violent or not is incorrect Fascism is a form of governance.. You can't just call anything you don't like,. fascist. ..or I'll call sweet potatoes,.. fascist... ;D |
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Title: Re: The Cry Bullies Claim to oppose Fascists and N Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/11/17 at 10:19:49 So, going to sit and listen to Milo is a fascist exercise that threatens the left and needs to be violently opposed, destroying property and assaulting people who would attend? And Again, WHO is Milos Audience? Are they not the same people who voted for Trump? And aren't Trump supporters Homophobes and Racists? And isn't Milo not only a root hugger, but a root hugger who loves blacks? If you can't see how everything you've said is crumbling down around you, it's because you're unwilling to admit that the claims you've made against the people who are not lefties are baseless. You act as if it's only the left who are able to accept people who aren't Just Like Me.. If the left has proven anything they have proven that they don't accept a homosexual unless he toes Your party line. He's a root hugger, only black men need apply, so, he's a racist, ri g ht? But it's OKAY because it's not AGAINST blacks, but the left call his events fascist? The people who were trying to go listen to him were called fascist and Nazis, and that's somehow even rational? Explain what Milo believes that is in any way promoting Fascism or Nazism. Then explain Why it's a good thing to import people who want to murder the sexually confused. Should I just say good bye now? I don't believe you'll even try. fas·cism [ch712]faSH[ch716]iz[ch601]m/Submit noun an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization. synonyms: authoritarianism, totalitarianism, dictatorship, despotism, autocracy; More (in general use) extreme right-wing, authoritarian, or intolerant views or practice. What is it called when the left cram things down the throats of the majority? fas·cism [ch712]faSH[ch716]iz[ch601]m/Submit noun an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization. synonyms: authoritarianism, totalitarianism, dictatorship, despotism, autocracy; More (in general use) extreme right-wing, authoritarian, or intolerant views or practice. The People weren't in favor of attacking Libya, except for the ones who bought the lies. Bamicare was a fraud, shoved down our throats. When corporations use government to further themselves at the expense of the People, I guess that's Mercantilism, but it sure tastes like fascism, in that the voice of the People is silenced, through corruption. The Fears of the left appear unfounded. Nobody is suggesting that homosexuals be pushed back into the closet or that segregation be brought back. It's possible that some of the things that the left have championed will be stepped back some. Possibly the Rights to Contract with and@Associate with those people who they choose. Hopefully Americans will regain their Rights. The left Claim to be tolerant. I'm not seeing it. You can be The representative of sanity and understanding. Authoritarian and totalitarian describe the left, and the neocons. Trump hasn't moved toward being an authoritarian or totalitarian except for pushing us back to the Law. Such a narcissist that he declared the airplane that He would use as too fancy,too expensive and unfair to the American People. Yeah, that is exactly what a narcissist would do. |
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Title: Re: The Cry Bullies Claim to oppose Fascists and N Post by raydawg on 02/11/17 at 12:21:58 4A5C4B564E5B564D390 wrote:
If you try and make me eat the sweet potato, against my will, it is, even if you French Fry it first :-* |
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Title: Re: The Cry Bullies Claim to oppose Fascists and N Post by raydawg on 02/11/17 at 12:24:05 Should I just say good bye now? I don't believe you'll even try. And now you understand the gist of my other post, on why I only assign entertainment value to this board ;) |
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Title: Re: The Cry Bullies Claim to oppose Fascists and N Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/11/17 at 12:44:30 Well, if that's what you Want from it, that's all you'll get. If you're curious about why I say what I say, you can start by just listening to Charlotte Iserbyt interviews. No reading required. Once you see why I maintain that our schools were sabotaged, then maybe you will decide to check out some of the other things. And, BTW, I knew the schools were shot down on purpose before I ever heard of her. I watched it happen. I watched them demand power and money to make changes and then they said the schools were performing even worse, but they Never Undid the change that Made them worse. Even as a preteen I knew better than that. |
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Title: Re: The Cry Bullies Claim to oppose Fascists and N Post by pg on 02/11/17 at 17:19:58 697F68756D78756E1A0 wrote:
The left now feels violence against the right is both effective and morally justified. Does no one remember that the Nazis were socialist? Best regards, |
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Title: Re: The Cry Bullies Claim to oppose Fascists and N Post by MnSpring on 02/11/17 at 17:54:13 2F383E323D2D5F0 wrote:
Yep, do as I, ’SAY’. do not do as I, ‘DO’. It’s right for me, but wrong for you. In the last POTUS, Any, That's ANY, criticism of his actions, and ALL, name calling, was PURE RACIST ! etc, etc, etc, etc, et, etc, etc, etc, etc ! And On and On and On ………….. Yet Now, criticism, of a POTUS, by, Looting, Burning, Steeling, Blocking Traffic, shouting Death Threats, etc. is ‘perfectly’, OK ? Even BEFORE, he has been in office less than a month ????? Get on the Bus, or stand in the street and 'CRY' ! Now, if you are, disagreeing with a fine point, a procedural thing, (this way or that), a opinion. etc. Communicate it. In a, 'ADULT' way. Do NOT, Loot, Burn, Steel, Block Traffic, shout Death Threats, etc. Because, more and more, will see that as, ONLY, a 'Temper Tantrum', And TOTALLY, discount you. |
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Title: Re: The Cry Bullies Claim to oppose Fascists and N Post by thumperclone on 02/12/17 at 08:38:20 " They are not products of a spontaneous uprising of the masses but part of a network of professional agitators with lots of training and money behind them" reminds me of the bastardized anti-war protests of the 60s lest we forget Kent State :( |
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Title: Re: The Cry Bullies Claim to oppose Fascists and N Post by raydawg on 02/12/17 at 09:22:09 2F332E362B3E29383734353E5B0 wrote:
Clone, do you think the same grassroots unity, that motivated the anti war demonstrations, is the same motivation that is driving the unrest today? Here, let me preface the question with perhaps this motivating circumstance. I, tho just a little young in the early 60's, to be part of that movement, recall folks having a reason of a better way toward peace, for all, as the goal. It wasn't a movement against people, but more about policy (war). Tho you did see the zealous, like Jane Fonda, embracing the "victims" and leading factions to curse and spit upon the pawns ( those who served ). Disgraceful, repugnant, and disingenuous actions exhibited, in total conflict to what their stated goal was, peace... I believe she too, became snared in the trap of those forces who politically advance useful fools, for their own devious agenda...... As she denounced, later on in life, of what she did. Today, I see the motivation more about "self", and promotion of self, as manifest..... Its not about getting along, as much as "getting my way". And of course you still have the Wizards of Oz, behind the curtains, using it as a means to advance their own agenda. Is that a fair assessment, any merit to that? |
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Title: Re: The Cry Bullies Claim to oppose Fascists and N Post by thumperclone on 02/12/17 at 09:43:43 I think we are saying the same thing who really knows who the puppet master is behind the curtain or who is using the masses for some other goal |
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Title: Re: The Cry Bullies Claim to oppose Fascists and N Post by raydawg on 02/12/17 at 09:45:08 3A263B233E2B3C2D2221202B4E0 wrote:
Agreed ;) |
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Title: Re: The Cry Bullies Claim to oppose Fascists and N Post by thumperclone on 02/12/17 at 09:49:09 I can't see the merits of the violence it doesn't achieve anything positive like the Watts riots |
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Title: Re: The Cry Bullies Claim to oppose Fascists and N Post by MnSpring on 02/12/17 at 10:30:53 I can’t see the merits of the violence it doesn't achieve anything positive In thinking, I believe their is something ‘positive’, about the violence, riots, looting steeling, PAID Professional, protesters. (That is, with the very fast reporting of such events) It is showing how FOOLISH, those people are, And, dismissing their, voice, because the people watching, are are getting sick and tired, of the FOOLISH Antics, of the, violence, riots, looting steeling, PAID Professional, protesters. And the more, they riot and destroy, and disrupt, and impede, the normal life of those people. The more those people consider them, (and their position), FOOLISH. Think back to the 60-70’s. 2 groups. The Dumb ones destroyed things in the street. And the smart ones, became Teachers, Lawyers, Judges, Politicians. Today, the dumb ones went back to the street, and the Smart ones, are getting on the BUS. |
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Title: Re: The Cry Bullies Claim to oppose Fascists and N Post by thumperclone on 02/12/17 at 10:35:32 Today, the dumb ones went back to the street, and the Smart ones, are getting on the BUS. [/quote] what bus is that? |
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Title: Re: The Cry Bullies Claim to oppose Fascists and N Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/12/17 at 10:37:10 Soros and friends. Pretty sure he was involved in Ferguson. |
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Title: Re: The Cry Bullies Claim to oppose Fascists and N Post by MnSpring on 02/12/17 at 11:00:43 637F627A677265747B787972170 wrote:
‘Getting on the Bus’ Would be a analogy to: Get involved, and say your words, in a Positive way. Communicate in a POSITIVE WAY ! Be informed, of the issue. Say your objection to a thing, in a POSITIVE way. ‘Stop standing in the street and cry’ Would be a analogy to: Burning, Looting, Steeling, Destroying, Impeding Freedom. Making threats, or extortion. Expounding the Double Standard. Not being informed of the issue. ’Parroting’, what CNN or the like says. Calling people names, just because you are told to. Much more, on both. But you get the idea. |
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Title: Re: The Cry Bullies Claim to oppose Fascists and N Post by thumperclone on 02/12/17 at 11:15:38 [smiley=thumbup.gif] got it |
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Title: Re: The Cry Bullies Claim to oppose Fascists and N Post by thumperclone on 02/12/17 at 11:19:31 I thought Soros' deal was to help countries make the transition from communism |
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Title: Re: The Cry Bullies Claim to oppose Fascists and N Post by raydawg on 02/12/17 at 12:00:36 I watched Loving, last night. Very moving movie, if you never saw it. This couple, who went all the way to the SC, but for the most part, stayed out of the limelight. Racial discrimination, tho not new or novel to the USA, is a ugly scar. It has been practiced, and visited on many different ethnicity, as well, through out time. How we deal with it, either perpetuates it, or can lend an understanding, and sadly most folks are so entrenched in their own feelings, they perpetuate the stigma. Sad :-[ |
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Title: Re: The Cry Bullies Claim to oppose Fascists and N Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/12/17 at 12:56:52 4559445C415443525D5E5F54310 wrote:
Not even almost.. I remember his name from the seventies. He has destroyed the economies of small countries by shorting their currency. He is no friend of America. He's a globalist and he, Rockefeller, Bryzinski, and the Rothschild bunch can't be gone soon enough. soros helped Nazis Search that. You can read snopes and he didn't, or Watch him admit he did. |
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Title: Re: The Cry Bullies Claim to oppose Fascists and N Post by thumperclone on 02/12/17 at 13:31:08 he is definitely a megalomaniac to be dealt with but how |
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Title: Re: The Cry Bullies Claim to oppose Fascists and N Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/12/17 at 13:50:05 It'd be okay if he was not evil.. How? Well, hopefully he will just vaporlock and fall over.. |
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Title: Re: The Cry Bullies Claim to oppose Fascists and N Post by pg on 02/13/17 at 11:02:03 796578607D687F6E616263680D0 wrote:
This is an 8 min objective summary. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faoBehegWR0[/media] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faoBehegWR0 Best regards, |
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Title: Re: The Cry Bullies Claim to oppose Fascists and N Post by Serowbot on 02/13/17 at 11:42:33 Yup,.. a' can't get more objective than that... :-/ ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: The Cry Bullies Claim to oppose Fascists and N Post by pg on 02/13/17 at 15:31:09 1107100D15000D16620 wrote:
What part of that was factually incorrect? Let me guess, ya probably think Saul Alinksy was a good guy as well..... Best regards, |
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Title: Re: The Cry Bullies Claim to oppose Fascists and N Post by MnSpring on 02/13/17 at 18:13:59 283E29342C39342F5B0 wrote:
And a, “Impeach” . (so and so) Is, Perfectly, all right ???????????? |
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Title: Re: The Cry Bullies Claim to oppose Fascists and N Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/13/17 at 20:46:33 Pick and choose, sneer, dismiss, cross reference, consider, Anyone who is unaware that Soros is no friend of civilization simply hasn't invested time to investigate. I don't understand not remembering his name in the news. The Trade of the Century: When George Soros Broke the British ... Priceonomics › the-trade-of-the-century-... Jun 17, 2016 - In 1992, George Soros brought the Bank of England to its knees. ... Since Germany had the strongest economy in Europe, each country set their ..... The events destroyed his credibility. How George Soros Singlehandedly Created The European Refugee ... Zero Hedge › news › how-george-soros-... Jul 9, 2016 - Soros has not only backed groups that advocate the ... volume, destroyed the baht's artificial peg to the US dollar, which .... is a direct plan to cause economic and social chaos on the ... Soros Is Collapsing the Dollar and Setting the Stage for WW III ... The Common Sense Show › 2016/05/18 May 18, 2016 - The Soros moves to destroy the American economy and to destroy any financial power of the ... George Soros letter reveals globalist plan to destroy the First World ... Natural News › 051869_George_Soros_... Nov 6, 2015 - George Soros letter reveals globalist plan to destroy the First World by eliminating national ... migration and asylum policy should be grounded in economic and demographic realities, ... Liberal media financier George Soros openly admits plan to ... Intellihub › liberal-media-financier-geor... Nov 3, 2015 - (INTELLIHUB) — For years many in the alternative media, as well as those in more conspiracy ... But, the same crowd who are unable to admit that Rockefeller bragged about , and thanked the media, for their Discretion in Not reporting what they were privy to from attending the Bilderberg meetings, saying that without their silence, they couldn't have prepared the world for the next step, or something along those lines. I've tired of going and getting the quote. It's an admission of guilt and only a few here can allow themselves to admit what it means. |
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