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Title: Tokens Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/12/17 at 13:36:46 Mr. Yiannopoulos is known for his provocative and engaging speeches criticizing feminism, identity politics, and Radical Islam. His book, Dangerous, shot to the #1 on Amazon when announced and has remained there ever since. A token is a minority placed in the mix, By those in power, in order to Appear as if they, those in power, are not bigoted, hateful , prejudicially discriminatory people. Milo is being embraced By the Right, not because of his sexual predelictions , but in spite of them. And the left call his supporters Nazis and fascists. I'm waiting for the evidence that would make that a reasonable accusation. |
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Title: Re: Tokens Post by raydawg on 02/12/17 at 13:59:31 637C7A7D60675666566E7C703B090 wrote:
Jog, do you expect honest dialogue? I believe in your sincerity, I applaud it..... However, wisdom is knowing what is worth trying, and what is a waste of time. I will remind you no more, as I deplore harping, but again, entertainment value only, not education, is what I expect first-most, from this board. |
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Title: Re: Tokens Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/12/17 at 14:37:15 And I get entertainment elsewhere. Here is a , almost, wide open frontier. Opposing viewpoints, overlapping viewpoints, all kindsa ideas to look at, consider, agree with or disagree with and, IF I disagree, I try to Explain WHY, and logically create a foundation for my position. If others are on the fence, maybe I can help them lean toward rational thinking instead of someone else's agenda driven, identity based ideology. I'm aware that in all the years I've only changed a coupla minds, but I certainly Did get one man's attention. He was saving money for a house in his IRA. I told him, take the money, pay the penalty, you're gonna lose a ton if you don't. He never even met me, he just watched me be right, time after time.. And he took my advice, bought a smaller house than he wanted, and a few months later messaged me, Thanking me, and telling me that because he did what I said, he won't be a renter for the rest of his life. He would have lost about half if he had stayed in the IRA. I'm closer to a political atheist than bub or dem. If the neocons start pushing war, I'll be against that, too. The left need to pigeon hole their opposition, it's just how people are. I'm sure the right see every lefty through the same lens. I see both parties as wrong. I don't understand how anyone can support either party. Look at how many establishment bubs oppose trump. They would Literally rather lose to Hillary than win with Trump. Explain THAT,, I can see it only one way. Status Quo must not be threatened. |
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Title: Re: Tokens Post by Serowbot on 02/12/17 at 14:48:21 2F3036312C2B1A2A1A22303C77450 wrote:
Follow the money. Controversial speaking engagement -- Book sales soar... $250,000 advance.. Do the math. |
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Title: Re: Tokens Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/12/17 at 16:14:18 That makes him a token? Whose fault is it that his presence at Berkeley created a problem? Who is making him controversial? Can you Imagine the PR nightmare if someone came forward with p roof that someone who supports him paid people to make that mess at Berkeley? I don't see how His book is somehow suddenly attractive to a bigoted, prejudicially discriminatory buncha mouth breathing, knuckle dragging Neanderthals. IF, in fact, the Right, the heterosexual, ARE in Fact WHO the left Say we are, there's No Way his book would be jumping off the shelf. The curious could simply listen to a few interviews. You're able to shrug and pretend you have solved the equation, but I don't see how you've factored in the stereotype the left has of the people who are buying the book. Are you suggesting that the left are running out to get that book? I can only hope they are. We NEED some unity. Our society has become more divided and intolerant of each other. People get tired of being told how they Must Think and Feel. So, who is buying a book, written by someone who is very openly homosexual and who only practices his sword swallowing skills on black men? I saw what happened. I'm not ready to buy his book. Hopefully, the left are. Hopefully, because of the impact Milo had on the reporter who has decided that the left's ways aren't what they say and he, after just sitting and talking to a guy who USED Logic and reason to support his position, has become an outspoken critic of what only days prior had been his comfort zone. All because Milo is a token? Because of the controversial ways? He's Lost Friends, no telling how it will impact his job. So, how does the fact that Someone, I don't think we can honestly say exactly who instigated ALL of it, but to say the Rioters were Not lefties would be hard to do. How many were hired thugs,used to get it going? Look at Jefferson. Anyway, what causes people who hate homosexuals and are racists go spend money and read what someone they h a te says? Controversy schmontroversy, I'm not peeling dollars out of my billfold if I don't want to understand the ideology of the author. So, your solution to the equation falls flat with me. Are you sticking with it or would you expand o n it? Do you think half , more, less of the sales are to , heck, pick the demographics.. The millennial generation Millennial gay Millennial conservative Old white guys, What's your best guess? Can't tell yet, I guess, the book isn't even out yet. Following the violent anti-free-speech protests in Berkeley, California last night - sparked by cal's special snowflakes hurt feelings at the potential words that would come out of Milo Yiannopoulos' mouth during a sold-out event - it appears America's curiousity has been piqued. Sales of Milo's book have increased 12,740% overnight sending it rocketing from 642nd to 5th ranked best-seller on Amazon. Pretty impressive considering the book is not even released until March 14th 2017. So, why would people who hate Milo buy his book? And the Right are obligated to, if not hate him, at Least not give him money and attention. So, how do we understand this phenomenon? I hope he's just the beginning of an overlapping of demographics and ideologies. Bringing the people who have been taught that the left is who keeps them safe into a moment when they realise that conservative Americans aren't looking to round them up and beat them. |
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Title: Re: Tokens Post by raydawg on 02/12/17 at 17:38:07 2533243921343922560 wrote:
Follow the money. Controversial speaking engagement -- Book sales soar... $250,000 advance.. Do the math. [/quote] HAHAHAHA...... 400,000. 00 to tell bankers you have a public answer, and then a private one.... Love that kind of speaking engagement. Gee, it takes a village of idiots, to buy an inconvenient truth..... No math needed , lololololool, as the earth is in the balance ;D You can't make this stuff up, thanks! ;D |
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Title: Re: Tokens Post by Serowbot on 02/12/17 at 21:08:36 554A4C4B5651605060584A460D3F0 wrote:
12,740%, overnight.... You like logic Riddle this. An unknown author that works for Breibert, writes book that no one is interested in... Then, a controversial speaking engagement catapults him into the limelight, and sales increase 12,740%... Even the President comments... Oh,.. and one of the President's top advisor’s is Steve Bannon, former Breitbart CEO... Are Berkley students rushing out to buy this book?... No... Right wing, Breitbartard's are... Were they defenders of this man before?... No... Of course not... ..but now it's different... Because this stunt is all over the Right-Wing media... You are now buying a book that you wouldn't have even considered before... Now,.. if you are doing something you never would have considered doing before,... and Lefties and Berkley students are not,... who is being manipulated?... Controlled?... Lead by the nose? Suckered?... I never heard of this guy before, and I bet you never did either... This consumer message sponsored by reality television... The United States of Reality Television hosted by DJT, President and CEO.... Who's the hypocrite? People that will not support gay hatebater, or will support a hatebater that is gay?.... Who's position has this incident changed?... ... by 12,740% ????????... Yeah, I know... I'm an idiot, being manipulated by the Left... ..and ya'll are being consistent by shifting your beliefs by 12,740%... :-? Mic drop.... |
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Title: Re: Tokens Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/12/17 at 22:21:39 never heard of this guy before, and I bet you never did either... You lose. I've been aware of him for a coupla months. Listened to him. He's sensible. Apparently the reporter who interviewed him, you know, the one who changed his views, lost friends, he listened. I liked Milo before the riots. You have no idea who is buying the book. You're not, so only hate filled homosexual hating right wingers are buying it. See how weird that looks. Either the right don't hate, like you believe Or The left are buying the book Or some combination thereof Thank you for actually taking the time to assemble a cogent position. I really expected another drive by.. |
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Title: Re: Tokens Post by raydawg on 02/13/17 at 03:47:02 If this guy had been able to give his engagement without disruption, and all its associated coverage, he'd still be unknown to us.... That is the whole point I have been trying to make. Stop with the PC doctrine, enforcing enforcement..... And let them have their spew. Let folks decide if its of value, or not. If the left, and others who have opposition to Trumps policies, not the color of his hair, would just let him tweet on, without adding to the fanfare, he'd have no one to tweet too, and his policies would either work, or fail, and we'd all be a lot better off, for it. The press loves to make a story, out of a story, and the real issue gets neglected..... Trump is borrowing a tactic that Ali use to use, rope a dope, get the other guy to waste his punches... The press only wants money, and stirring the pot sells advertising. |
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Title: Re: Tokens Post by MnSpring on 02/13/17 at 17:37:05 5C4F574A4F59492E0 wrote:
That is the Entire Point. Had Not, the Ultra Left NOT, ( Burnt, Looted, Stole, AND MADE utter FOOLS of themselves) Yiannopoulos would completely been unknown. ( Well unless you were a Homosexual) |
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Title: Re: Tokens Post by MnSpring on 02/13/17 at 17:47:44 687E69746C79746F1B0 wrote:
So, Yiannopoulos is NOT, ALLOWED, to promote, ‘books’, like, the Clintons, Obama’s, or Winfrey, (or any other of, thousands of, ‘Book Promoters’. OK, Got it ! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Tokens Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/13/17 at 20:54:31 Every author would Love to have their work not be interested in. Imagine, a book nobody wants, selling like hot cakes, and not even out yet. The woman who went to the Grammies in the Trump dress is sure selling a lot of records. The left are surely destroying their enemies. Coff, coff. |
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