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Title: Flynn..... Post by raydawg on 02/14/17 at 04:44:11 Is/was he in trouble for lying about a conversation, or was it the topic? Didn't Obama talk to Cuba and Iran about sanctions, etc, without input from anyone else? Could he just used, "I don't recall" as a answer, seems it works for some ;D Mercy, seems nothing has really changed in DC, I guess we'll be slaves regardless, choosing our master is the only choice we get :-[ |
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Title: Re: Flynn..... Post by WebsterMark on 02/14/17 at 06:03:33 In any other administration, this is a 20 minute story. But with the leftist MSM on full bore attack mode, they will extract far more than their allotted pound of flesh. They will not be satisfied with this amount of blood in the water. This tiny level of revenge is not enough to quench the thirst of the scorned spouse. In this case, the MSM has been cheated on by her lover, The American people. Hell knows no fury like a media scorned or something like that. It's out of control. Even the highest point of the Bush Derangement Syndrome wasn't half of what the TDS is. I barely read my local paper anymore, what's the point? Same with the network news. There is not even an attempt to fool some people into believing they are responsible journalists. At least with Obama, the media's guy was in charge, they all wore the same color jersey so to speak. Their job was to cover his a$$, pretty simple. The diaster known as Hilary came along which made it tougher to hide Hopey's screwups, but they managed. Unfortunately, vast sections of middle America turned against them and elected Trump because there simply was no way to cover for Hilary. Now they have launched a frontal assault on who they perceive to be the enemy: me. To which I say "bring it on." I was surprised at the election results on one hand because I didn't think the few instances I saw in my travels were as wide widespread as they turned out to be. But I am beginning to think this doubling down the media's undertaking will further galvanize an anti-media trend. Since the media's sold their souls and have gone all in for one party, the backlash will continue to hit the Communist opps...sorry, I mean Democratic party. |
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Title: Re: Flynn..... Post by T And T Garage on 02/14/17 at 07:28:39 This could be the tip of the proverbial iceberg - we'll see. Remember, America gets the administration it deserves. |
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Title: Re: Flynn..... Post by Serowbot on 02/14/17 at 07:30:21 "You're fired!"... |
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Title: Re: Flynn..... Post by raydawg on 02/14/17 at 08:00:50 Thanks for the replies, however, I didn't get an answer. What did he do wrong that Obama didn't do when dealing with Iran and Cuba? |
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Title: Re: Flynn..... Post by verslagen1 on 02/14/17 at 08:21:24 He wasn't King. |
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Title: Re: Flynn..... Post by T And T Garage on 02/14/17 at 08:39:22 35263E23263020470 wrote:
I think it's more about him hiding that he did it. However, the fact that he resigned over what is essentially a "non-issue" raises concerns - thus my comment about the tip of the iceberg... |
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Title: Re: Flynn..... Post by Serowbot on 02/14/17 at 08:42:20 53405845405646210 wrote:
I honestly don't understand the comparison. This,.. was an underling, Flynn, discussing policy with a foreign entity and misinforming the VP and POTUS.. Whatever Obama did was as POTUS... Obama was anything but uninformed... Like him or not, he was a voracious consumer of information. Trump,.. don't like to read... This is a problem... He has his briefings condensed and read to him... Rumours of functional illiteracy are surfacing... :-? |
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Title: Re: Flynn..... Post by raydawg on 02/14/17 at 10:04:50 OK, I got some info now.... Flynn did this contact while Obama was still in office, so that was the deal breaker. Has to do with a " one president at a time" . I get that, makes sense..... But I hope if any members meet or talk to foreign leaders, let's say, Pelosi talking to Mexico about immigration and telling him she won't enforce this presidents policies, then shouldn't we expect the same hammer to fall? |
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Title: Re: Flynn..... Post by WebsterMark on 02/14/17 at 10:24:54 Rumours of functional illiteracy are surfacing. oh what the F do you know?! You read that somewhere or heard Maddow say it on TV, stop trying to make it sound like you have some inside scoop or something. Functional illiteracy...... ....and my point still stands. Journalist are coming back from their 8 year vacation and are pissed to find the majority of John Q. Public didnt go along with their coronation plans..... Every tiny issue will be turned into a "gate". Can't wait to hear the first "journalist" say: what did the President know and when did he know it. |
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Title: Re: Flynn..... Post by raydawg on 02/14/17 at 10:31:06 Web, Flynn lied, that is his wrong. How it was found out, like wiki leak and Hillary and the DNC, it matters not, nor excuses a lie. If he had said yes, I talked about sanctions, etc, then he might have been called out on proprietary, but not lying.... We will have the gotcha games for a spell, still ;D |
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Title: Re: Flynn..... Post by T And T Garage on 02/14/17 at 10:54:58 152720313627300F233029420 wrote:
What if it comes to that? Is that such a horrible question? It took out tricky d1ck nixon, so.... |
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Title: Re: Flynn..... Post by WebsterMark on 02/14/17 at 11:03:56 and it's a question never seriously asked during the previous eight years despite scandal after scandal after scandal. Look, I get the rules of the game, I know how it's played. There's the Democrats, the main stream media and the entertainment culture versus the Republicans. and I'm not disputing Flynn needed to go. From what I've read (and I can't believe most of it so I have to search around) he had a conversation before Trump's inauguration with Russian officials and when Mike Pence ask him about it, he apparently lied. OK fine, so he's got to go. But hell, Hopey used the IRS to target selective groups and you had to look hard to find that story. but none of this is a surprise. Everyone knew the hypocrisy factor would be off the charts. you guys have a guardian angel looking out after you which is a huge benefit. Good for you. Didn't work out so well on the last election so you going to make up for it. |
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Title: Re: Flynn..... Post by T And T Garage on 02/14/17 at 11:49:52 4F7D7A6B6C7D6A55796A73180 wrote:
Hmmm.. last time I checked, I wasn't a "you guys" - I was an American. Hey, what do you know? I still am! So are you (I assume). So enough of the "yeah, but - yeah, but". "Hopey", as you so affectionately call him, was never found to be even remotely responsible for the IRS targeting. And as to the "scandal after scandal" you mention... lol - what? Benghazi? Solyndra? ACA? Please... grasping at straws. Mark these words - we haven't seen the end of this type of thing from the trump administration (and keep in mind - he hasn't even been in office a month yet...lol!) |
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Title: Re: Flynn..... Post by WebsterMark on 02/14/17 at 12:21:32 Oh please, a couple questions were asked, Hopey answered, "journalists" eyes fluttered, deep breaths were taken and the matter was closed. Who knows what role Hope had in that. He had an offensive line wearing press credentials around their necks. You're right, they were turned into straws and forgotten about. Hey, pat yourself on the back, you've got the referees on your side. It just makes the task of crushing you that much more difficult. Not impossible, just difficult. And by the way, I'm sitting in an airport listening to someone at CNN seriously question Trump security at his Palm Beach estate. Seriously?! They covered for Hilary for two years and they're going to bring up that?! The kicker is, they'll get by with it. You guys will repeat it without even remembering Hilary's home server. Gosh you all have brass balls. |
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Title: Re: Flynn..... Post by T And T Garage on 02/14/17 at 12:38:34 586A6D7C7B6A7D426E7D640F0 wrote:
Seriously? Listen to yourself! So, you're saying that all investigations of the president are conducted by the press??? LOL . Right..... If they "protected" hillary so darn much, please explain the hearings and the 24/7 coverage on her email server... An again, what's the whole "you against me" mentality? You think that every single dem isn't worthy of this Country? Think again sad sack. I matter just as much as you - AND vise versa. Try looking through an objective lens once in awhile. This type of animosity is exactly what the corporations (you know, the ones who are really in charge) want to happen. What's good for Americans is good for America - regardless of political affiliation. If flynn is guilty, he's guilty. if it's found that trump is guilty, then so be it. |
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Title: Re: Flynn..... Post by raydawg on 02/14/17 at 12:41:31 7C4E49585F4E59664A59402B0 wrote:
Web, the deplorable won't forget.... The democrats stand to lose more seats in two years if they don't change their game. All of the "team" covering for the left, didn't sway this last election, and Trump really was a sketchy character, still is, but he lucked out by benifitting from a none of above vote. Mark my words, a third party candidate is looking real good, and hopefully some good choices will emerge as it becomes apparent folks really are tired of these stupid games by democrats, republicans, and their associated accomplices.... |
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Title: Re: Flynn..... Post by Trippah on 02/14/17 at 14:11:49 Trial by tweet? The news asked what it is supposed to, did Flynn make "arrangement" with a foreign power before Trump was sworn in. The actual trial of a President is done by the Senate, and they never went after Obama because, though they tried, there was nothing there. Including the infamous server Clinton "issue." Why did he resign? He was directed to, I think, by the Vice-President who directly asked some of these question earlier and based on Flynn's responses, went on to tell the American public, for who they work, some inaccurate info. I think the VP doesn't like looking like fool. :D |
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Title: Re: Flynn..... Post by raydawg on 02/14/17 at 14:31:06 4B6D766F6F7E771F0 wrote:
Oh, there is stuff there, you can bank on it. The story they cooked up about a outburst because of a movie, the guns, IRS all the computers crashed, plead the 5th, etc.... How come Roger Moore knew Trump would win? The press try to spin it, or were folks not telling their polls the truth, and why? Notice how the only word we've heard about the Bush's is poor old Nanny P, calling Trump Bush.... It's not about Trump, its about the other party, plain and simple. This is why both parties will lose soon to a real third party person. I hope it starts in the mid term, with independents winning seats! That will be a real beginning, instead of the dems wanting another investigation into Conway's telling folks to buy the clothing.... JEEZUS, you gotta be frick'n crazy to want folks like that in office! |
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Title: Re: Flynn..... Post by Serowbot on 02/14/17 at 15:12:21 Don't get too defensive,... Flynn is a Democrat. |
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Title: Re: Flynn..... Post by Serowbot on 02/14/17 at 16:16:16 Reince Priebus, is up next. "Reince, you're fired!" ... ;D |
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Title: Re: Flynn..... Post by raydawg on 02/14/17 at 16:26:58 7365726F77626F74000 wrote:
Not sure if that is directed at me..... But I'll field it nonetheless. Defensive, nah, just hoping to point out what a lot of other folk see as obvious, the two party only hypocrisy is what is dragging this county down. Maybe the die hard party ditto heads, will merge into one, to combat a new party of Independence. Not until we hold ALL accountable, will we get honesty. No reason to lie, period. |
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Title: Re: Flynn..... Post by Trippah on 02/14/17 at 16:29:42 Nanny Pelosi and several others should retire, manana. So should the Speaker and the Senate majority leader. It long past time for the Congress to function, rather than what they have been doing the past ten years. I do not care if a republican or a democrat improves the road, just get it done! :D :D |
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Title: Re: Flynn..... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/14/17 at 16:36:04 54726970706168000 wrote:
When enough people figure that out, America will stop going downhill. Well, IDK,, if the majority believe that America is obligated to allow everyone into America, then we are screwed. Is Anyone willing to take a shot at explaining Why we need to import the same people that are wrecking Europe? |
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Title: Re: Flynn..... Post by raydawg on 02/14/17 at 16:48:49 5F79627B7B6A630B0 wrote:
U got my vote ;) |
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Title: Re: Flynn..... Post by raydawg on 02/14/17 at 16:54:23 3D2224233E3908380830222E65570 wrote:
When enough people figure that out, America will stop going downhill. Well, IDK,, if the majority believe that America is obligated to allow everyone into America, then we are screwed. Is Anyone willing to take a shot at explaining Why we need to import the same people that are wrecking Europe? [/quote] Jog, the short answer is that we, ourselves, are to blame, not the so called, "them." I know you do not like my answer, but honestly, until we fix our own house, we can not expect to help others.... Their "homeland" is a result of a lot of our own mess, in trying to "fix" them. |
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Title: Re: Flynn..... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/14/17 at 17:26:24 I wish you'd explain what you are saying more clearly. So far it's sounding exactly like what I've been saying since before They Even got to Europe. |
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Title: Re: Flynn..... Post by oldNslow on 02/14/17 at 18:26:49 [quote author=283E29342C39342F5B0 link=1487076251/15#20 date=1487117776]Reince Priebus, is up next. Yup. Then Conway. Then Kushner. Then Donald himself. Forcing Flynn to resign was a serious tactical mistake. Trump should have gone to the wall defending him, and should have hammered the press like he did during the campaign. Trump has powerful enemies inside the national security establishment, they are spying on everyone, and they have a direct line to the media. The press and the string pullers behind the scenes smell blood in the water. The feeding frenzy is about to begin unless Trump punches back really hard. |
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Title: Re: Flynn..... Post by pg on 02/14/17 at 18:40:24 Conway yep, Kushner - why him?? Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Flynn..... Post by oldNslow on 02/14/17 at 19:07:52 6A7D7B7778681A0 wrote:
Anyone in the inner circle. One at a time. By whatever means necessary. The people working behind the scenes to take Trump down can't be defeated by playing defense.I think Trump knows that, but in this Flynn situation he blinked. Mistake IMO. He should have defended Flynn, let the media whores scream their heads off, and ruthlessly and quietly gone after the sources of the leaked info about the phone call. Those are the rules his enemies play by. Not nice. |
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Title: Re: Flynn..... Post by MnSpring on 02/14/17 at 19:50:33 2B38203D382E3E590 wrote:
Yep, Trump could be a, ’step’ to a strong 3rd. But will have to wait until we all see what happens. Ya gotta build the foundation, BEFORE, you Build the Roof ! |
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Title: Re: Flynn..... Post by WebsterMark on 02/14/17 at 19:56:30 0F31303C2E32335D0 wrote:
Anyone in the inner circle. One at a time. By whatever means necessary. The people working behind the scenes to take Trump down can't be defeated by playing defense.I think Trump knows that, but in this Flynn situation he blinked. Mistake IMO. He should have defended Flynn, let the media whores scream their heads off, and ruthlessly and quietly gone after the sources of the leaked info about the phone call. Those are the rules his enemies play by. Not nice.[/quote] I agree. This was kind of unTrump-like. Which means one of three things. 1) he's turning into a politician 2) he knew something more about Flynn that we don't know Take your best guess what number 3 is. |
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Title: Re: Flynn..... Post by raydawg on 02/15/17 at 04:34:21 0D2E133032292E27400 wrote:
Yep, Trump could be a, ’step’ to a strong 3rd. But will have to wait until we all see what happens. Ya gotta build the foundation, BEFORE, you Build the Roof ! [/quote] As I have shared before, this movement got started with Perot. It has been a long time coming, having to forge two parties that control all the rules...... This foundation is deeper and broader than the other two, who divide theirs on platforms that you must adhere to if you are to play. I am getting more excited as I see Trump struggling, as in reality, he is a shrill and tactless as Hillary... Yes, I like some of his challenges to the existing power structure, but it is coming at a cost , for he is not a statesman, and using devious means only exasperates what is wrong already with a D.C. based power grid. |
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Title: Re: Flynn..... Post by WebsterMark on 02/15/17 at 05:53:53 I am getting more excited as I see Trump struggling Time out on the field....! Who says Trump is struggling? So far, isn't he highlighting the exact reasons why people supported him? A ridiculous media and liberal court goes bonkers over a common sense immigration pause from 7 dangerous countries. The media is complicit in national security leaks so they can get some blood and take credit for it. Don't a lot of people admire Trump because he's told the precious MSM they don't run the country? Hollywood and the entertainment culture are making idiots out of themselves furthering the gap between normal, sane people and the liberal elites? I've got no problems with what Trump has done so far. Sure, he could have rolled out the immigration pause a little better, but hell, Hopey had years to prepare for Obamacare website rollout and it was a complete bust so I don't see the immigration pause hiccup as being an issue other than with the media trying to do as much damage as possible. So, just exactly how is Trump struggling? Trump will struggle is he stops tweeting, stops being who he is and starts acting like a puppet politician acts. If Matt Lauer ever says Trump is acting more Presidential, we're screwed. |
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Title: Re: Flynn..... Post by Trippah on 02/15/17 at 06:55:25 Don't give up hope (oops, was that the last Pres (the one with a majority vote for him). It's Balls to the Walls (or should we say hedge)> ;D ;D ; So far we have deported a few hundred, (Obama deported thousands) including that evil gal who spend 20 years a models productive citizen who yes, got forged documents, so she could be here. Wheew, I feel safer already. |
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Title: Re: Flynn..... Post by oldNslow on 02/15/17 at 07:10:32 Quote:
Careful what you wish for. Consider this possible scenario: In the very unlikely event that somehow Trump is toppled, what are we left with ? Mike Pence is not vulnerable to these tactics I don't believe. So when the dust clears what have we got ? We've got Trump's Cabinet and department heads, probably his Supreme Court pick, and President Pence, a genuine, dyed-in-the wool conservative, who could never have been elected on his own for exactly that reason. Pelosi, Schumer, the Congressional Black Caucus, Soros, and the MSM will sh*t a brick if that happens. ;D |
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Title: Re: Flynn..... Post by MShipley on 02/15/17 at 07:47:40 The media has become nothing more that the assassination arm of the Progressive left. Flynn did nothing illegal talking to the ambassador, his only problem is he did not divulge this info to his own people. It is an internal issue of trust. Trump took care of it, issue over. However the media, Democrat Assassins, will do what damage they can with this molehill. Why, because they care nothing about America, the people or freedom. They will do ANYTHING to regain power. Think about it. The protesters in the streets that want to make this country ungovernable, the left not the right. The protesters in Berkley that want to stop freedom of speech and assembly ( 1st amendment rights ) because it is not their view, the left not the right. The people that want open borders without even so much as attempting to weed out our enemies, the left not the right. The people that want you to give up more of your money and security to support people that have broken our laws, the left not the right. The people that want to stop your second amendment rights, the left not the right. The protesters out in the street destroying private property and assaulting innocent people, the left not the right. The BLM groups out killing police officers, the left not the right. Those in support of genocide on an entire generation of children through abortion, the left not the right. The people running through our Capital with Vaginas on their heads cussing and screaming all kinds of disgusting stuff (in front of their and your children), the left not the right. Those in support of men using the same bathrooms as your daughter, the left not the right. And what is really STUPID, they call people on the right Facist. It's laughable the absurdity that comes from the left. |
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Title: Re: Flynn..... Post by raydawg on 02/15/17 at 08:18:22 Oh I love Trump shaking the D.C. and media tree, it needs it..... But if he IS lying, about contacting Russia, etc, privy to their possible excursion into our election, I want him to fess up, have the sack to admit it. The left tried influencing the election with the press about how foreign leadership told them that they feared trump, etc.... That is the same peddling of outside influences. He needs to man up, if he did, if he lied, and hid, maybe he could state he in fact, did inhale ;D |
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Title: Re: Flynn..... Post by Serowbot on 02/15/17 at 08:20:34 Trump never admits or apologizes for anything... Ever.. |
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Title: Re: Flynn..... Post by T And T Garage on 02/15/17 at 11:00:25 Like I said... tip of the iceberg.... https://youtu.be/wTrSPbZqyuA |
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Title: Re: Flynn..... Post by MShipley on 02/15/17 at 11:26:10 http://www.theblaze.com/contributions/matt-walsh-if-you-just-started-caring-about-political-scandals-again-youre-a-brazen-hypocrite/ |
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Title: Re: Flynn..... Post by T And T Garage on 02/15/17 at 12:11:58 59477C7D6478716D140 wrote:
HA! You ain't seen nuthin' yet! Like I said... tip of the iceberg... I'll bet that trump has loads of russian deals in his taxes... But we'll never know, will we? smh |
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Title: Re: Flynn..... Post by oldNslow on 02/15/17 at 12:22:46 Quote:
And what if he does? It isn't illegal or unethical to do business with Russia. Any "deals" that took place before Jan 20th of this year don't mean sh*t. |
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Title: Re: Flynn..... Post by T And T Garage on 02/15/17 at 12:43:45 013F3E32203C3D530 wrote:
LOL!!! Ok... yeah... I'll bet you'd have the same attitude towards Obama if he had done similar deals... Too funny!! Well, I guess we'll just see, huh? Think about this - There's a reason that flynn was jettisoned... it just so happens that our new SOS made a $500 BILLION deal with russia while he was at Exxon... You wanna tell us how HALF A TRILLION DOLLARS has no bearing on anything? Did you know that russia just violated a treaty by testing a cruise missile? Pretty much the same thing that north korea did.. what did the president say about it?? Did he scold russia? (crickets) Yeah, I'm sure it's fine...... |
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Title: Re: Flynn..... Post by T And T Garage on 02/15/17 at 13:06:39 And now puzder is out.... well, he was never in, but still.... |
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Title: Re: Flynn..... Post by oldNslow on 02/15/17 at 13:07:35 Quote:
Until you show me, specifically, how either Trump or Tillerson broke the law, if and when either of them, were doing business in Russia as private citizens, before either of them were officials of the US government, yes I think it's fine. |
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Title: Re: Flynn..... Post by raydawg on 02/15/17 at 13:43:57 3D232C2D203D263B490 wrote:
Careful there [edit] [/edit]..... If you get anymore gleeful your puzder my erect itself, then what? :-* Your partisanship is starting to show ;D |
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Title: Re: Flynn..... Post by T And T Garage on 02/15/17 at 14:02:40 506E6F63716D6C020 wrote:
LOL - and you would have thought the same if it were hillary or obama?? Right... ok. |
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Title: Re: Flynn..... Post by T And T Garage on 02/15/17 at 14:07:19 11021A07021404630 wrote:
Careful there [edit] [/edit]..... If you get anymore gleeful your puzder my erect itself, then what? :-* Your partisanship is starting to show ;D[/quote] Huh? Flynn's a democrat and puzder is a GOPer... I could care less the party.. It just so happens that this president's cabinet seems to be falling apart at the moment. I couldn't be more entertained. LOL |
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Title: Re: Flynn..... Post by oldNslow on 02/15/17 at 15:11:05 Quote:
As far as I know Obama never had any business dealings that amounted to anything, anywhere. And a significant amount of the questionable sh*t that Hillary was alledged to have been involved in happened when she - or her husband, were in fact government officials. |
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Title: Re: Flynn..... Post by T And T Garage on 02/15/17 at 15:54:57 4876777B6975741A0 wrote:
Typical - it's a hypothetical - suppose that obama DID have a deal like that. You can honestly say that it'd be "OK"? I'm dubious at best. That notwithstanding, the key word you use above is ALLEGED (even though you spelled it wrong). That's the difference here - and it means something. The clintons have never been indicted on a single thing. I'm not defending them, that's just a fact. And to his credit, so far, there are only allegations floating around trump and his shaky cabinet. In the coming weeks we'll all see what's really going on. Maybe it'll be nothing... I think it's just the tip of the iceberg. |
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Title: Re: Flynn..... Post by oldNslow on 02/15/17 at 16:21:05 Quote:
I'm pretty sure that's exactly what it is. The media yammering will go on for a while, But eventually even they will get tired of it, and move on to the next "bombshell revelation", and the next... and... |
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Title: Re: Flynn..... Post by T And T Garage on 02/15/17 at 16:30:54 Then this happens.... http://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-says-russian-connection-non-sense-tweet-124040661.html |
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Title: Re: Flynn..... Post by oldNslow on 02/15/17 at 16:44:41 Calling for a "congressional investigation" is a pretty far cry from having an investigation. And "congressional investigations", even when they happen, rarely accomplish anything besides providing a platform for partisan bickering and speechifying. My money is still on nothing. Guess we'll just have to wait and see. |
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Title: Re: Flynn..... Post by pg on 02/15/17 at 19:08:31 Why were they listening to his calls in the first place? Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Flynn..... Post by Trippah on 02/15/17 at 19:15:10 I think the intell folks were listening in on The Russians, not the Trumpetians. But when you intercept, you get both sides of the conversations. 8-) |
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Title: Re: Flynn..... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/15/17 at 19:28:26 That Hillary is unindicted is no sign of her innocence. It's an indictment of a corrupt system. Republicans fought against Trump. An investigation of a democrat by republicans doesn't mean anything. They all are dirty. An investigation is just a show, unless they bring in independent investigators. Whoever is being investigated just has to show a few investigators that they will go down in Flames. Hillary knows where the bodies are buried. D.C.is a shadowboxing exhibition. Quite literally a puppet show. The resistance I see Trump encountering makes me think he wants to set things right, but when I see him supporting the end of net neutrality, I don't know what to think. I'd sure like to hear him explain Why he thinks it's a good idea. |
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Title: Re: Flynn..... Post by oldNslow on 02/15/17 at 19:50:39 14322930302128400 wrote:
You don't think the intl community is listening to every word Trump and everyone associated with him says, on any phone or other communications device they touch ? It's what the intel folks do. A large segment of the permanent bureaucratic component of the intelligence apparatus is actively working against Trump's interest and agenda. He is a threat to them. They are a part of the swamp he vowed to drain. A very dangerous part because of the cloak of secrecy and anonymity they are allowed to operate under. They intend to protect their prerogatives even if by doing so they manage to damage a President and ultimately the county that they supposedly work for, and the citizens of that county who pay the taxes that pay their salaries and pensions. These bast*rds are the real threat, not the Russians. |
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Title: Re: Flynn..... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/15/17 at 19:55:51 B I N G O |
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Title: Re: Flynn..... Post by WebsterMark on 02/16/17 at 06:01:52 and Pudzer was forced out in part by using a claim of domestic violence which was refuted by his ex wife who said she got caught up in the Oprah moment and no such events occurred. But think about this for a second, Juaita Broaddrick claimied Hilary Clinton use her position to intimidate her into silence about Bill's rape for years. This was never even brought up at any of her hearings. This is just one (of to many to count) instances of the Democratic double standard. Just wondering, how many Clinton, Bush, Obama and now Trump cabinet nominees have withdrawn? Think I'll look that up. Bill Clinton:5, 3 in first term Bush: 2, 1 in first term Obama: 3 , all 3 in first term. in fact he had 3 withdrawals by Feb 12th. Anyone recall hearing NBC, ABC, CBS lead with stories of crisis and Washington in chaos? Trump: 1 |
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Title: Re: Flynn..... Post by MShipley on 02/16/17 at 08:13:08 http://www.independentsentinel.com/former-cia-analyst-says-barack-obama-is-behind-the-white-house-leaks/ |
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Title: Re: Flynn..... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/16/17 at 08:47:17 Trump has not surprised me. I was worried about what he might actually be. I'm seeing a lot I agree with, but I'm seeing indicators of Business as usual. The Net Neutrality thing bothers me a lot. Maybe he doesn't understand how easily that can be used against him, by providers putting what I'm looking for a mile down in the results of a search. But Google already does that. What happens when people are able to minimize the bandwidth of people who want to go to sites the providers don't agree with? Will reports that show trump is a good guy be allowed? I hope a tech savvy member can answer some questions. Maybe I'll just go PM him.. What were trumps choices in filling important jobs? Surely he has a team of Non Establishment but knowledgeable about job requirements who are guiding him, but I Sure do See a bunch of Goldman Sachs people.. and I don't like it. I don't agree with the wall. Huge expense,, lets Prove we need one. Put people back doing the job of Border Patrol. An honest look at how they have been marginalized and effectively forced to Stand Down would be a good start. Yeah, I know, Obama deported so many more,, give me a break. Eyeballs and observed reality say otherwise. We PAY advertising encouraging parents to send their children. Do you REALLY BELIEVE that ten and twelve year old kids from countries south of Mexico are able to get here without financial help? Mexico HAS TO BE ALLOWING them to pass through. And if you check Their laws, you'll find they don't take it lightly when people disrespect Their borders. Without understanding what Cloward and Piven wrote, you'll probably swallow the Those Eeeevil bubs want cheap labor. Gee, don't dems own businesses? If they allow their competitors to employ cheap labor while They are forced to hire legal people and pay them the legal wages, they are at a disadvantage economically. I know, that conflicts with the Non Critical thinking that nearly everyone in America suffers from. Why would two men sit down and write out a plan of attack that outlines How to Destroy America, using its own laws? And, armed with that knowledge, why would policies be enacted that would bring that tactic to life? If I told you the quickest way to at Least get a leg blown off was to blindfold yourself and slowly start through a known minefield, stopping and slapping the ground in a semicircle every other step, would you do it? Read Cloward and Piven, it's How to Commit Suicide as a society. And, with sufficient propaganda and social engineering, a cheerleading squad for Exactly That has emerged. Ignorance is Not a precious commodity to be protected. Listen to Charlotte Iserbyt. Look up Emergency War Powers. Read Cloward and Piven. Come back and tell me how wrong I am. |
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