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Message started by Saltracer on 02/20/17 at 07:56:06

Title: UK Savage
Post by Saltracer on 02/20/17 at 07:56:06

Hi folks, picked this up last weekend it's going to be my wife's bike, so its gonna get bobbed a little to her liking

Title: Re: UK Savage
Post by badwolf on 02/20/17 at 08:12:08

Love the seat!!!

Title: Re: UK Savage
Post by Saltracer on 02/20/17 at 08:15:27

Its standard with some of the padding removed & rear upholstered by the previous owner,

Title: Re: UK Savage
Post by batman on 02/20/17 at 12:33:20

welcome! I don't think she'll like it much if she's caught in the rain.

Title: Re: UK Savage
Post by Saltracer on 02/20/17 at 13:21:04

I did'nt when I rode it & the tires are nuts to ;D
I have ordered white walls for it & will be making a new 13/4" diameter exhaust for it.
I will also have a new alloy tank custom fuel tank made soon, as we don't like the way you can see all the frame up at the steering head also giing more fuel capacity to, plus alloy front & rear fenders I will post pics as the build progresses if anyone is interested

Title: Re: UK Savage
Post by Kenny G on 02/20/17 at 14:31:16

Racer,

Pleas do post pics of your build as it progresses.

Kenny G

Title: Re: UK Savage
Post by Steve H on 02/20/17 at 16:07:07

Please post pics as you go along. We all like to see what others do with their bikes.

Title: Re: UK Savage
Post by batman on 02/20/17 at 20:23:22

A 1 3/4 " exhaust may be to big , 1 1/2 " ID is the largest even used on bikes with engines rebuilt with high compression pistons and aftermarket cams normally .

Title: Re: UK Savage
Post by old.indian on 02/20/17 at 20:34:53

6D6E7B626E613B370F0 wrote:

A 1 3/4 " exhaust may be to big , 1 1/2 " ID is the largest even used on bikes with engines rebuilt with high compression pistons and aftermarket cams normally .

Gee Batfeathers... I could have sworn that it was a 1.75" id mild steel header I have on the one in my garage...... :-[

Title: Re: UK Savage
Post by Kris01 on 02/21/17 at 17:41:50

At only 30ish hp Batman is correct. Bigger isn't always better. A correctly sized exhaust will scavenge better. If you go too big then you create a lot of turbulence in the pipe and exhaust velocity slows down.

Title: Re: UK Savage
Post by batman on 02/21/17 at 18:42:07

Old Indian ,If you reread my post the last word might be more telling, that word being normal, there is of course larger pipes in use, Lancer is running a 1.65 ,Your running a 1.75 , but both of you are running hi comp. pistons and cams ,Were as Saltracer's motor may well be stock,even if it's not a 1.5 is larger than stock and would do a good job on most motors with mods.It looks to me that he 's running a stock header and carb and being that he's in England,with less access to after market parts I'm assuming his motor to be more or less stock.the 1.5 should be able to handle his present and future needs if he decides on performance mods.(P.S.-bats are covered in hair,Indians wear feathers ;) )

Title: Re: UK Savage
Post by Saltracer on 02/22/17 at 13:17:48

Batman, you are correct there are few performance parts here in England for the savage & its a lot of money for little return in power really.

It's my girls bike, so the engine will remain standard apart from the air filter that has already been fitted by a previous owner.
I done some math with regards to the exhaust pipe diameter so
it will have 1.5" exhaust that I will make next month, it will have a tulip ended silencer fitted, then do some plug chops to see if the carb needs rejetting .
I will be changing the "wet" battery out for a agm, one as I don't like having acid possibly getting on the frame etc.
I have changed the handlebars tonight for a set off a H-D Sportster they give more height & pull back rather than the drag bars so the girl feels less stretched to the bars as she is only 5'1" tall lol.
I will be posting pics as I go with this little bike.

Title: Re: UK Savage
Post by batman on 02/22/17 at 14:02:18

SALT RACER ,just for fun you might look at a site JOG2 turned us on to ,Suzuki technical, it's a good read. this bike should be a great ride for your lady. It might be a good idea to tell us year and miles/kilometers on the bike so we can advise on repairs (know weakness in design ) you might need to keep it healthy.

Title: Re: UK Savage
Post by Saltracer on 02/22/17 at 22:36:31

Batman its a 1990 4 speed model, so do tell of any inherent weaknesses for this model. Is there a web address for the suzuki tech read?

Title: Re: UK Savage
Post by batman on 02/22/17 at 23:24:32

cam chain tensioner can extend far enough to come apart and total the motor as early as 24,000 km. and should be checked,thats why I asked your mileage.If your near that ,while you have the exhaust off you should pull that right side cover and check. There is a plug under the head cover that sit over the headbolt in the area behind the exhaust outlet that s known to leak and requires replacement. the front belt pulle should be checked ( normally torqued to 100 ft/lbs) if it loosens the pulley will slap back and forth and willeat the splines off the drive shaft. Moving the bike backward in gear or a hard backfire at shutdown can spin the starter gears backward causing damage to the cases,this can be avoided by jetting slightly rich (bikes 1996 and newer have an anti backlash gear so don't have this problem).

Title: Re: UK Savage
Post by Saltracer on 02/23/17 at 12:11:22

Thanks Batman for the heads up on the parts to check out.
The bike has a chain conversion so no belt/pulley dramas, will check the tensioner tomorrow night after work.
Have messaged verslagen1 with regards tensioner & head plug so will sort them out

Title: Re: UK Savage
Post by batman on 02/23/17 at 14:20:12

Saltracer ,the torque on your front sprocket should be checked it still remains the same, the pressure holds the mainshaft spacer in place which holds an internal O-ring seal , and damage can still happen to the splines ,just to a lesser degree due to the sprocket being narrower .Using Versy's tensioner is by far the best thing you can do to insure a long and happy life for the motor.....(just typing in Suzuki Technical , should bring you to the site, It's a google site)

Title: Re: UK Savage
Post by Saltracer on 02/23/17 at 14:28:40

Will do Batman, going do a through check of the whole bike & sort out any thing that is untoward.
I have noticed tonight the idle mixture screw is seized in the carb & I do mean seized, which is bit of chore

Title: Re: UK Savage
Post by Kenny G on 02/23/17 at 14:30:35

Racer,

Start soaking the Idle Mix Screw with penetrating oil right away and keep soaking it at least overnight.

Kenny G

Title: Re: UK Savage
Post by batman on 02/23/17 at 14:41:59

You should know that the screw is really more of a fine tuning device,as the idle passage has two openings to the carb the screw sets in one the other is always open. If you are not able to remove the old screw ,you may be lucky if it's stuck in a good position or maybe work around it by changing idle jet size.