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Title: Cold, cold, blooded.... Post by raydawg on 03/11/17 at 07:24:04 Been cold this winter/spring and the little beast seems to not like it. She sits for 15 minutes on the ferry, etc, and I have to choke her to keep her idling until she warms up. She plugs away great, fires up, etc, just this one odd thing now.... Not sure if it's a clue to something else or what???? Maybe a new plug, check my air filter????? |
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Title: Re: Cold, cold, blooded.... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/11/17 at 08:03:05 So, how long are you letting it idle? You might run some SeaFoam through it. I have to adjust the idle up if it's cold. When it's not cold, it starts fine, but the 1/2 choke gets the idle speed up. I might hafta pay attention and keep the gas on a tad. But I know the penalty for a low idle and too much kickstand idling time. |
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Title: Re: Cold, cold, blooded.... Post by HAPPYDAN on 03/11/17 at 09:20:58 I always ride on half choke, depending on the temps, unless it's above 80F (which is almost never here), then it's not necessary. Full to start up, then after a few seconds to half. Ride on half for maybe 5 minutes 70-60, add another 5 minutes for each 10F below that. Below 40F it stays in the garage. Also, I always use STA-BIL, which helps this bike a lot. |
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Title: Re: Cold, cold, blooded.... Post by SALB on 03/11/17 at 09:22:27 When the temperature is cold and the humidity is really high, I have the same problem. The only solution I've found is to keep my hand on the throttle, and hold it at a high enough speed until it warms up. As for 15 minutes idling, you may want to rethink that unless you have some sort of forced air flow on the engine. |
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Title: Re: Cold, cold, blooded.... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/11/17 at 10:10:07 I can adjust the idle while I'm riding. If it's not gonna warm up for fifteen minutes, I'll be twisting the screw. |
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Title: Re: Cold, cold, blooded.... Post by raydawg on 03/11/17 at 10:21:37 Sorry guys, I thought I was clear in discribing the issue... Let me try again ;D I start the bike on choke first thing in the morning. She fires up fine. I let it idle for 30 seconds or so, while I put my gloves on, and do a once over on gear, etc. I take off, ride a few minutes, maybe 5, and push it back in. Running good and the Harley's get out of my way 8-) Get to the ferry, load, dismount, and go into the cabin to warm up. Get to destination, that takes about 15 minutes, mount, but have to choke again to keep the idle up, etc. I just don't remember having to go to cold starting procedure after only 15 minutes of cooling down before.... I would never let this thing idle for 15 minutes. Does that clear things up? |
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Title: Re: Cold, cold, blooded.... Post by verslagen1 on 03/11/17 at 10:27:30 I'll have to admit some ignorance here, it doesn't get witches teet cold here. Once in a while, in the dead of winter with the north wind howling, and a clear night it'll get close to 40F. But with a stock '96 idle jet a K&N filter in the airbox, I never use full choke. And she has the shutdown pop that only goes away in the heat of the summer. yeah, my idle's a little high, and I could probably tune it out [smiley=evil.gif] I'd say if this only happens on the ferry and half chokes resolves it, don't F up the rest of your day. |
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Title: Re: Cold, cold, blooded.... Post by raydawg on 03/11/17 at 11:45:14 Uh.... Since you brought up the witch and teets, thought I inadvertently posted on the crazy board ;D And to further clarify, ferries up here are boats 8-) I have ridden more times this winter in snow and 20's than I can ever recall. Yesterday the wind was so bad the captain made us sit on our bikes to keep them from falling over. It was strange, like the system generating the wind was right upon us, as it would go from dead calm, to 50mph, in a wink of the eye. The water was not all that rough either. Made it extremely hard to control his ship, as he would be leaning into the wind, then nothing, and he'd have to bring the ship back. Normally, like a plane taking off, you have more control going into the wind, but he gave up, ran a bit up past the dock, and surfed the wind down into the landing.... Did a great job too, hardly a bump when he put her up to the thingy! |
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Title: Re: Cold, cold, blooded.... Post by SALB on 03/11/17 at 12:01:28 Hey, Rawdawg, are you up by Puget Sound, or down by the Columbia? The last (only) time I was on a ferry was crossing the Columbia.......I've never been so sea sick in my life. :-[ |
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Title: Re: Cold, cold, blooded.... Post by verslagen1 on 03/11/17 at 12:24:12 Now that you mention witches ferries and thingies all in the same post... I can see where you could be confused. ;D My worst case of sea sickness... during a hurricane on a cruse ship rounding nova scotia... even the captain was sick. |
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Title: Re: Cold, cold, blooded.... Post by raydawg on 03/11/17 at 12:27:34 [quote author=22212236202826430 link=1489245844/0#8 date=1489262488]Hey, Rawdawg, are you up by Puget Sound, or down by the Columbia? The last (only) time I was on a ferry was crossing the Columbia.......I've never been so sea sick in my life. :-[/quote] Up in the north end of the sound, whidbey island. Give me a holler if you come up this way. |
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Title: Re: Cold, cold, blooded.... Post by raydawg on 03/11/17 at 12:35:49 263522233C3137353E61500 wrote:
I like navigating life confused.... It's almost as good as blaming others and being a victim ;D I have never been sea sick, and I've been in, around, on, boats my whole life. I've been scared tho, thought a 65 footer I was on would pitch over, as we tried to turn around in weather, that was scary. I was off Mexico on a 100 footer, that was rocking so bad for almost three days, I couldn't sleep in my bunk, even using pillows to keep me from rolling. I was starting to get sleep deprivation, that was bad... Finally got behind an island, was sleeping before my head hit the pillows :) Hey, did I just jack my own thread? >:( |
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Title: Re: Cold, cold, blooded.... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/11/17 at 12:42:21 I don't know which is worse. Getting caught jackin yer thread or showering with a tire. |
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Title: Re: Cold, cold, blooded.... Post by raydawg on 03/11/17 at 14:37:26 67787E7964635262526A78743F0D0 wrote:
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D........... :o |
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Title: Re: Cold, cold, blooded.... Post by raydawg on 03/11/17 at 14:49:22 Got 30 thousand on her already.... Need to pull in the clutch a tad, as neutral is getting just a tad harder to fine when the motor is running, if it's off, no problem. Never have messed with the carb, and it still has its plug/cap in place. I changed that oil about 4 times a year, with new filter. It's on it's second plug, I think I'll put in a new one, and look at the air filter. I was thinking about retiring this year, but the company has too much money on the table to walk away from. I think I'll go to 66 and take the extra cash. It pencils out to over a thousand dollar more per month when I do retire..... Not sure bout you guys, but that's a chunk of change to me :) |
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Title: Re: Cold, cold, blooded.... Post by batman on 03/11/17 at 19:01:53 Raydawg ,What you consider warm ,your motor may not.How long a ride from your house to the ferry? If it's under 30 mins. your engine hasn't come to temperature yet ,longer if it's colder out. It takes at least 30 mins. for the engine oil to come up to operating temp even on warm days ,and could be twice that in the temps your riding in. Asking your bike to start after sitting outside on the ferry ,(while your inside sucking up some heat) without using the choke boarders on cruel and unusual punishment. :( |
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Title: Re: Cold, cold, blooded.... Post by buster6315 on 03/11/17 at 19:47:42 33203736292422202B74450 wrote:
My worst sea sickness: Gulf Stream fishing off South Carolina |
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Title: Re: Cold, cold, blooded.... Post by jcstokes on 03/11/17 at 20:38:09 If you are getting good money or lots of job satisfaction, preferably both, by all means stay on. If you aren't and economic necessity doesn't compel you to stay, get out. |
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Title: Re: Cold, cold, blooded.... Post by raydawg on 03/12/17 at 08:31:00 353C2C2B30343A2C5F0 wrote:
Yes, the money is good, the benefits outstanding. The medical, tho haven risen as deductibles go, is a peace of mind. I started riding to be able to save time commuting, and it opened up another world to me. I have talked to folks who retired, and it seems they fall into 3 distinct categories..... #1. Bored and broke. #2. Busy and frugal. #3. Rich and bored. Most report they really didn't understand what was involved, how they would really live, in this new stage of their lives. As with any endeavor, how you prepare, can make all the difference. Most report they really didn't grasp the inability to NOT be able to earn more money, at the same level of income, if needed. You live longer, that money becomes less. I currently withold 30% of my earnings in a pretax investment. Another 10% in after tax Roth, so I am fortunate to be able to stash away about 50 grand a year, on my own, the company matches 16% of that as well. One more year seems a no brainer, I get to ride for another year, can always walk if needed, can die and leave the wife and kids a little better off.... HECK, I am one lucky SOB ;D |
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Title: Re: Cold, cold, blooded.... Post by Kris01 on 03/12/17 at 09:06:13 405F595E43447545754D5F53182A0 wrote:
I had to share! Thanks JOG! ;D |
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Title: Re: Cold, cold, blooded.... Post by raydawg on 03/12/17 at 12:26:42 OK, did the sea foam, gave the idle a twist and adjusted the clutch, which, now that it is moving the plate as it should, I think that was playing a part.... I normally shift to neutral to start, but not always, and I remember at times I could feel a slight lunge when I hit the starter. So we'll see if that clears the witch and teets from my next ferry ride ;D |
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Title: Re: Cold, cold, blooded.... Post by Dave on 03/12/17 at 13:46:49 The modern E10 fuel is really made for fuel injected engines....it does run in engines with carbs. Ethanol does not vaporize as easily as gasoline, and it needs a warm engine to burn (ever notice how the folks that use it at the drag strip need to squirt gasoline down the intake to get the engine to start?). It could be the cold nature is partly the E10's fault. |
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Title: Re: Cold, cold, blooded.... Post by raydawg on 03/12/17 at 14:52:24 5F64697E6F63787E656D607F0C0 wrote:
You know Dave I was thinking the very thing.... Thought I might try a hotter plug, but thought against that, as that could damage the piston head over time if it hits the same spot, yes? I know on my outboards, 2 strokes, a wider gap is the norm, as I guess it gives a better, or more to point, bigger combustion, as it jumps the gap... Yes? Remember, it has oil in the fire, which fouls cold plugs quickly, I think :-? |
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Title: Re: Cold, cold, blooded.... Post by buster6315 on 03/12/17 at 20:41:50 2F3C24393C2A3A5D0 wrote:
You know Dave I was thinking the very thing.... Thought I might try a hotter plug, but thought against that, as that could damage the piston head over time if it hits the same spot, yes? I know on my outboards, 2 strokes, a wider gap is the norm, as I guess it gives a better, or more to point, bigger combustion, as it jumps the gap... Yes? Remember, it has oil in the fire, which fouls cold plugs quickly, I think :-? [/quote] I raised my needle. Now the engine is 'warm blooded'! I haven't checked the mpg yet. |
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Title: Re: Cold, cold, blooded.... Post by HAPPYDAN on 03/13/17 at 09:47:31 I guess I wasn't clear RayDawg. I also live in PNW, Gig Harbor. It has been a "normal" winter here, not like the last few too-warm/dry years. Some days, it just stays on half choke and runs fine. Remember, the wind whistling through the car decks on the ferries act as cooling wind, (especially that record setting run from Bremerton to Seattle!) and it will cool quickly if not running. If your bike has stock muffler, jets and airbox, half choke works well. |
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Title: Re: Cold, cold, blooded.... Post by raydawg on 03/13/17 at 14:41:44 Hey Dan.... ran good today, I could touch the jug with a bare hand after she sit on the ferry ride. Guess I forgot.... Just a little choke, get her rolling, and I am good. I think my clutch was part of the problem too, shifts way better now that I took the slack out of the cable, just a smudge left before it engages... On the ferry now riding home, wet ;D |
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