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Title: For Whom The Road Tolls.... Post by T And T Garage on 03/13/17 at 11:18:14 Toll roads - great idea!! <<< sarcasm [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBYY1O_o-zM[/media] |
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Title: Re: For Whom The Road Tolls.... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/13/17 at 11:38:49 I wonder if you even know Why it's such a bad idea. Gee, Hannity is a moron? I had no idea! No, really, I've never heard him say anything even almost That Stupid. |
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Title: Re: For Whom The Road Tolls.... Post by pg on 03/13/17 at 11:53:32 677976777A677C61130 wrote:
Your guy put on 10 trillion to the national debt and we have nothing, nothing to show for it. And your your worried about toll roads!! ;D Best regards, |
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Title: Re: For Whom The Road Tolls.... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/13/17 at 12:12:02 It's a bad idea. No relative thinking. No My guy is less bad. It's right or wrong. Toll roads that are built by transnational corporations and the money never stops leaving America is just one more parasitic burden. There are other ways to finance infrastructure. I'm okay with a toll road, If the ownership is local and the money is used for the maintenance of it, but it won't be. It'll be used to maintain it, and support the toll taking infrastructure and payroll, but the profits will effectively be a tax/ fee imposed on transportation. America would be better off just going in debt Further. At least we wouldn't have to have a perpetual drain on the pockets of the users. Pretty sad where America is economically, that we are reduced to this. |
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Title: Re: For Whom The Road Tolls.... Post by T And T Garage on 03/13/17 at 12:39:58 3A2D2B2728384A0 wrote:
Your guy put on 10 trillion to the national debt and we have nothing, nothing to show for it. And your your worried about toll roads!! ;D Best regards, [/quote] Whats sad is that you're NOT worried about toll roads. But yeah, keep telling my how "my guy" was bad.... smh. I'd rather see $10T spent on America than to see it funding an unnecessary war. It turned out to be a good thing to bail out the auto industry and a bad thing to bail out wall street. Win some lose some - but at least there was an attempt to help the middle class - remember the tax break that was given to us in the Obama presidency? (American Recovery and Reinvestment Act) So far, our president has yet to show one single bill that will help the middle class... |
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Title: Re: For Whom The Road Tolls.... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/13/17 at 13:00:48 No law doesn't necessarily translate into No Action. |
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Title: Re: For Whom The Road Tolls.... Post by pg on 03/13/17 at 13:16:34 For years we saw the wealth redistribution under Barry and he even said he was going to fundamentally transform American. Tax & spend, tax & spend, now that someone else is actually going to do something it is not good enough. That is what I call "Pot meets Kettle." Regarding how it might be paid for, we can't pay our bills now. They are talking about 100 year bonds to keep things a float and we can't do another QE. What say you? Best regards, |
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Title: Re: For Whom The Road Tolls.... Post by oldNslow on 03/13/17 at 13:26:34 Quote:
Exactly ! Even local ownership doesn't always work out great for the consumers. Tolls on the New York State Thruway were supposed to go away once the debt incurred for building it was paid. Debt's been gone since 1996 but the tolls are still here and keep going up. The road sucks, maintenance is always behind what the road needs, and the money disappears into the New York State budget. Sometimes size matters. Sometimes it doesn't. Government is Government. Less is always better than more.. |
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Title: Re: For Whom The Road Tolls.... Post by T And T Garage on 03/13/17 at 13:55:25 7067616D6272000 wrote:
I say let's get back to the tax rates of the 50's. The Eisenhower years! Corporations are hoarding hundreds of billions, the rich don't have the same burden as the bottom 80 or 90%. There are no repercussions for outsourcing (why do you think trump has his ties made in China?). But no - trump wants to give yet another tax break to the richest Americans and he wants to spend $60B more on an already bloated military. If you want true prosperity in the US again, you will begin by getting all money out of politics. From that point, everything gets better. |
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Title: Re: For Whom The Road Tolls.... Post by Papa Bear on 03/13/17 at 14:14:56 I wonder where all the taxes collected on fuel went? |
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Title: Re: For Whom The Road Tolls.... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/13/17 at 15:19:50 This is nothing but , as mentioned above, the result of fraud, theft, and more Ohh Neaux! It's an Emergency! D.C. B.S. that will be used to justify yet another wealth transfer scheme From the People to the pockets of global corporations. End Status Quo my eye.. |
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Title: Re: For Whom The Road Tolls.... Post by Trippah on 03/13/17 at 16:12:42 Mass Turnpike also, still collecting tolls even after paid for. The Bridge here at the Thousand Islands. Tolls include the millions spent on Bolt Castle, which is a major tourist attraction. But do the people using the bridge have a choice? ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: For Whom The Road Tolls.... Post by oldNslow on 03/13/17 at 16:50:20 Quote:
However laudable a goal that is, its already far too late for that to ever happen. The money IN politics is more than sufficient to make sure that it never happens. Sooner or later this particular cause will also be co-opted by the charlatans. This only goes one way, and the result is inevitable. Half the voters last November, in one way or another, recognised the situation, and that is how we wound up with Trump, who, in all honesty, is nothing more than a speed bump on this country's toll road to ruin. Things will continue exactly as they are until they become intolerable for everyone not beholden to, and benefiting from, the criminal enterprise that we have allowed our government(s) to become. When that sinks into the minds of enough folks then all bets are off, and the "peaceful transition of power" that all the bullsh*t artists babble on about will be nothing more than a quaint fairy tale. |
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Title: Re: For Whom The Road Tolls.... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/13/17 at 19:44:00 Yep.. |
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Title: Re: For Whom The Road Tolls.... Post by pg on 03/13/17 at 20:54:08 3D3C33323130373635040 wrote:
Good question, does anyone know? Best regards, |
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Title: Re: For Whom The Road Tolls.... Post by Dave on 03/14/17 at 09:04:04 4057515D5242300 wrote:
Good question, does anyone know? Best regards,[/quote] Well....I know a little bit about this. I work for several small cities in northern Kentucky. Every one of the cities is given money from the "Municipal Aid Road Fund", and it is a portion of the "state tax" that was collected from fuel sales. Each spring we are required to hold a public hearing to collect information from the residents about the projects that they want the City to work on, and the City staff also presents projects that they believe should be done. I imagine a similar system exists for the Federal portion of the tax on fuel sales. The State of KY has a 6 year Road Plan that is determined by the State Government: http://transportation.ky.gov/Congestion-Toolbox/Pages/Six-Year-Plan.aspx I don't know the process for determining how the tax money on fuel sales is distributed - but the cities collect far more of the tax money than the rural areas as there are a lot more folks buying fuel.....and yet the majority of the funds are spent to finance large rural projects that could not be financed any other way (this same situation exists at the county level - where the Cities provide more tax revenue and yet the majority of the tax money spent on county roads occurs in the rural areas). The Cities have to get a lot of money from other sources (property or local road taxes) to be able to maintain the city streets. (That is the majority of my day to day job.....working on street maintenance and replacement projects for small cities). Road projects are very expensive - and the cost of maintaining them never goes away. The street paving on local streets can survive for a pretty long time as the traffic volume is light - but on major highways a pavement life of 20 years is exceptional. If you build a road with a toll.....you will have to keep a toll to pay for the maintenance/replacement of the road when it wears out....unless you find another source of revenue. |
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Title: Re: For Whom The Road Tolls.... Post by Papa Bear on 03/14/17 at 10:01:25 "....unless you find another source of revenue." I always thought that source of revenue for ongoing road upkeep was fuel taxes. And it would be if it wasn't spent on other stuff |
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Title: Re: For Whom The Road Tolls.... Post by Trippah on 03/14/17 at 10:28:06 Well, I hate to be the guy; but frankly is there another way? Really, would all the nice folk in Boston vote for higher taxes so we can pave the roads in Hampshire County? I don't think so. I can't see the folks of L.A voting their income tax money to pave roads on Sonoma County; they would simply ask the diners "Do you want your wine stirred or shaken". Everyone screams at redistribution of wealth but that is what government is. And it is so we can do it without the bloodbaths of the French and American Revolutions, or the Russian, Chinese and the Khmer Rouge variations. Really, lets be serious for a moment. OK, that's over, lets get back to the Trump/Obama Bashing. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: For Whom The Road Tolls.... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/14/17 at 11:15:02 It's shocking that everyone doesn't know how the money goes. Fuel tax. Not income tax. They used to vary registration costs by weight. |
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Title: Re: For Whom The Road Tolls.... Post by Trippah on 03/14/17 at 11:27:07 in some states e.g. NY, weight still affects the reg fee. In some states there is a vehicle excise tax every year of ownership. So you pay a sales tax to buy a new car, motor vehicle registry fees based on value, and weight for plates. You pay the fuel tax which goes to road construction and maintenance, you pay an excise tax each year per registered veh, I don't know about unregistered. You the pay a tax on the money you get when you well it (but unlike, say stocks, you cannot reduce it by the original cost. In some states you are required to have insurance. Did I miss any? ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: For Whom The Road Tolls.... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/14/17 at 11:30:56 Parasites.. |
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Title: Re: For Whom The Road Tolls.... Post by T And T Garage on 03/14/17 at 11:40:19 4A7475796B7776180 wrote:
Sorry - I'm not giving up that easy. There is definitely a way to get money out of politics - and Amendment. It's not impossible at all. How did women get the right to vote? How did prohibition get instituted and then repealed? We're actually making progress - WOLF-PAC.com |
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Title: Re: For Whom The Road Tolls.... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/14/17 at 11:49:02 Yeah, politicians are actually gonna support That. Stopping prostitution would be easier. |
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Title: Re: For Whom The Road Tolls.... Post by T And T Garage on 03/14/17 at 12:10:57 3D2224233E3908380830222E65570 wrote:
It's not up to the politicians, it's up to the citizens. The issue of money in politics is NOT partisan. We all want it gone. If you think you can't change it - you can't. Why even bother trying?? Not me - I love this country too much to see it go the way of an oligarchy. |
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Title: Re: For Whom The Road Tolls.... Post by oldNslow on 03/14/17 at 13:32:19 524C43424F524954260 wrote:
[color=#0000ff]Sorry - I'm not giving up that easy. There is definitely a way to get money out of politics - and Amendment. It's not impossible at all. How did women get the right to vote? How did prohibition get instituted and then repealed? We're actually making progress - WOLF-PAC.com [/color][/quote] That's the second time you have accused me of "giving up". Even though you haven't the faintest idea what my plans for what I see coming happen to be. Wolf-Pac is a waste of time. Take a good look around. Political action of any kind isn't going to fix this. The system is broken beyond repair. Spend your time and energy preparing for the inevitable Sh*t storm thats coming down the pike. |
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Title: Re: For Whom The Road Tolls.... Post by pg on 03/14/17 at 14:00:22 704E4F43514D4C220 wrote:
What kind of time frame? Best regards, |
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Title: Re: For Whom The Road Tolls.... Post by pg on 03/14/17 at 14:01:30 554B444548554E53210 wrote:
It has been gone since 1913. Best regards, |
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Title: Re: For Whom The Road Tolls.... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/14/17 at 14:05:32 All that piss and vinegar,and no strength for reading... |
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Title: Re: For Whom The Road Tolls.... Post by pg on 03/14/17 at 14:11:49 I read it 3 years ago. Best regards, |
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Title: Re: For Whom The Road Tolls.... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/14/17 at 14:20:55 And did it affect your understanding of how things really work? Confessions of an Economic Hit Man is a partly autobiographical book written by John Perkins published in 2004. It provides Perkins' account of his career with engineering consulting firm Chas. T. Main in Boston. Wikipedia There is an audio book, free. Digging around for summaries, you can get the gist. |
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Title: Re: For Whom The Road Tolls.... Post by oldNslow on 03/14/17 at 15:14:55 5E494F434C5C2E0 wrote:
What kind of time frame? Best regards,[/quote] I don't know. But when the tipping point is reached whatever is going to happen will happen fast. Think: The beginning of WW1 The American Civil War The collapse of the Soviet Union Bosnia. Rwanda You can no doubt think of others, but that's what I'm talking about. Those events blindsided the majority of the folks in the populations involved. |
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Title: Re: For Whom The Road Tolls.... Post by T And T Garage on 03/14/17 at 15:17:44 I won't be donning a foil hat waiting for the end.... Anything less than getting involved is giving up. If you think there is no hope - that's on you. Shame on anyone with that attitude. |
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Title: Re: For Whom The Road Tolls.... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/14/17 at 15:37:09 I Am involved. You can't win a game until you understand the way it's played. I'm Working at getting people to develop the curiosity to delve into the information that explains Why things are as they are. Until people know what is going on and have a clear understanding of what America is Supposed to be, they can't fix it. Your heart is in the right place, but you're set up to play a decent game of checkers while America is being run in a hole by master chess players. |
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Title: Re: For Whom The Road Tolls.... Post by oldNslow on 03/14/17 at 15:38:00 554B444548554E53210 wrote:
The only hat I wear is a ballcap. Or a motorcycle helmet. I've been "involved" for longer than you've been alive I suspect. I don't believe in "hope". I believe in planning for what's coming, whether you, or anyone else, believes it can and will happen. I posted a few examples from the past. You think those things won't happen again ? Won't, or can't happen here ? Why? Because we are special and somehow immune to historical inevitability? A different breed from the rest of humanity ? The real shame is not being willing to see what is right in front of you. Good luck with your Amendment. |
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Title: Re: For Whom The Road Tolls.... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/14/17 at 15:51:01 The real shame is not being willing to see what is right in front of you. Especially while people are pointing it out. You can put that tin foil where you make funny noises when you walk. Our parents and grandparents watched this country get out from under them. They were wanting good things for us. They read papers and did what they could to ensure the future by voting intelligently, yet, no matter who was elected, the policies continued to suck at the marrow of what made America prosperous. Go Look for the information about the wealth and prosperity of Americans just prior to the Federal Reserve. The banks created easy money and scarce money, to create the problems that would create support for a Central Bank. Tim foil, screw that. I'm well read and I know more about the things that are hurting our society than you. |
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Title: Re: For Whom The Road Tolls.... Post by T And T Garage on 03/14/17 at 16:35:46 382721263B3C0D3D0D35272B60520 wrote:
LMAO - seriously??? Wow.... anyone who says that has an inferiority complex!! How utterly sad... You sure can dish it out, but you obviously can't take it |
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Title: Re: For Whom The Road Tolls.... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/14/17 at 16:54:44 What's Your GOAL? You wanna think you're right or do you want to Be informed? Keep laughing. When you get bit in the face and it's obvious that you were told, well, it's too late then. Defend that ignorance and stand tall. |
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Title: Re: For Whom The Road Tolls.... Post by pg on 03/15/17 at 05:09:23 46595F5845427343734B59551E2C0 wrote:
Sure, I now describe it as the 2nd biggest fraud in human history. Best regards, |
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Title: Re: For Whom The Road Tolls.... Post by pg on 03/15/17 at 05:12:54 033D3C30223E3F510 wrote:
I don't think anyone can make an educated guess. What I can say it has been a long time since the world has seen a true conflict. I suspect the dollar and it's reserve currency status will play a role. Best regards, |
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Title: Re: For Whom The Road Tolls.... Post by Papa Bear on 03/15/17 at 05:17:43 Your (our) "best before" date has expired...... Democracies last ~ 200 yrs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Fraser_Tytler,_Lord_Woodhouselee Or maybe we think we are different (special, unique, smarter than the average bear). As always - time will tell |
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Title: Re: For Whom The Road Tolls.... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/15/17 at 05:51:53 Republic.. Not democracy. I'm not sure when that died, but the actions by Lincoln certainly were not constitutional. The income tax, federal reserve, emergency war powers, Any idea how long ago a sane loan officer would have declared America bankrupt? Ohh, wait, happened already.. still under reconstruction, not That reconstruction.. |
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Title: Re: For Whom The Road Tolls.... Post by T And T Garage on 03/15/17 at 06:36:02 627D7B7C61665767576F7D713A080 wrote:
I've seen the likes of the paranoid for decades. "Get informed!", "Know your government!", "They're coming for our guns!", "Read this!", etc. What they all have in common is that they talk the talk, but they don't walk the walk. My goal is to stay involved. That means local, state and federal. I know my alderman personally (he's a republican), I've met several assemblymen(women), I met my state rep more than once, I volunteer at my polling place, I've made calls for people I support in office, I've gone out gathering signatures - staying involved. Not once have I said to someone - "I know more than you..." I DON'T know more than you - THAT'S why I do what I do, to learn, to grow, to understand. I point out ignorance, I try to shine light on what needs to be seen. I don't defend the actions of the stupid (either dem or repub). Lastly, I know that this little forum reaches about 8 people. I came here for my Savage (which has been awesome) and this is a little entertaining offshoot. I take it about as serious as I should. |
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Title: Re: For Whom The Road Tolls.... Post by Papa Bear on 03/15/17 at 09:26:07 7A656364797E4F7F4F77656922100 wrote:
What !! ... and quit paying all that interest ! |
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Title: Re: For Whom The Road Tolls.... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/15/17 at 11:58:37 And what will happen when interest rates rise? Our Servicing the Debt costs will outstrip the economic growth that they pointed to in order to justify the increase. AAAND Trump gets the blame. |
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Title: Re: For Whom The Road Tolls.... Post by MnSpring on 03/15/17 at 18:57:10 5D434C4D405D465B290 wrote:
WOW, just WOW. On, ‘Guns’. So, no one is trying to take them ? So no one is, LYING, to the, ’snowflakes’, and 'Fairy Dust Sprinklers’ ? So no one has done EVERYTHING in their power to ‘eliminate’ them ? Glad cooler, and informed people say different. But keep trying The, FREEDOM Loving people, expect you to. (well, another example, of, ‘OBSERVED REALITY’, is Not, ‘really’ “REAL” !!!!!!) WOW !!!! “… What they all have in common is that they talk the talk, but they don’t walk the walk….” Well, golly, golly, GEE, How do you have the insight, to know exactly what I am doing? |
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Title: Re: For Whom The Road Tolls.... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/15/17 at 20:41:39 bmissiveness on many occasions. One memorable incident was passage of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Amendments Act of 2008. This legislation retroactively legalized the Bush administration’s illegal and unconstitutional surveillance first revealed by The New York Times in 2005 and indemnified the telecommunications companies for their cooperation in these acts. The bill passed easily: All that was required was the invocation of the word terrorists. I'm really tired of people looking down their noses at me because I READ. Our grandparents TRIED to vote smart. Gee, seems to always backfire. Where did they get their information? The same common Ditch of sewage that we have available to us. So, if my sources are the same as yours, what are the odds that Either of us will figure it out? Why is it strange to read about how the federal reserve works? Ok, Jones supports Charlotte Iserbyt, but no MSM outlet says anything. So, because He will let her talk, she's nuts, yeah, I get it. Don't let the fact that she reports and explains what was obviously happening. She confirmed my belief, she, nor Jones tells me what to believe. |
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Title: Re: For Whom The Road Tolls.... Post by T And T Garage on 03/16/17 at 06:22:49 This thread was started to talk about tollways that tweety is now thinking about in lieu of government supported infrastructure improvements (think Eisenhower). Once again, proving that he has no idea how to do his job. |
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Title: Re: For Whom The Road Tolls.... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/16/17 at 13:38:22 I figure he knows. Someone is Helping him, just like he so suddenly stopped being so publicly warm and friendly about Putin. He's not stupid. Maybe you forgot. He didn't really Need this gig.. How many people actually listened to the interview from the 80s? |
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Title: Re: For Whom The Road Tolls.... Post by T And T Garage on 03/16/17 at 13:58:25 2C3335322F2819291921333F74460 wrote:
LOL - yeah, he acts like he doesn't need it - he doesn't take it seriously. In the meantime, he makes our country look like a joke. His interviews 30 years ago mean nothing today. He was a democrat and a hillary supporter. But again... this thread is not about trump's populist win and subsequent downfall of this country. This is about his terrible idea to create toll roads instead of fixing our interstates with public money. |
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Title: Re: For Whom The Road Tolls.... Post by Papa Bear on 03/16/17 at 14:07:22 Fixing the roads with fuel tax money (which is what it was set up for) Don't charge me a road/fuel tax for years then try to sell me on a toll road. I already paid the "toll" >:( |
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Title: Re: For Whom The Road Tolls.... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/16/17 at 14:22:38 That's what I'm tawkin bout Willis. |
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Title: Re: For Whom The Road Tolls.... Post by MnSpring on 03/17/17 at 10:55:22 Don’t do Toll roads often, But when I did, I took the Toll road from, Topeka, to Wichita KA, when going South. (Kansas Turnpike) And it was better, smoother, faster, cleaner, than the Interstates leading up to it, or going away from it. So, where? (last 8 years), did the Tax dollars, that were collected for improvements, go ? |
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Title: Re: For Whom The Road Tolls.... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/17/17 at 10:58:43 o, where? (last 8 years), did the Tax dollars, that were collected for improvements, go ? The only question Not being asked. |
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Title: Re: For Whom The Road Tolls.... Post by T And T Garage on 03/17/17 at 11:25:04 6F7076716C6B5A6A5A62707C37050 wrote:
http://time.com/83073/barack-obama-transportation-republicans/ http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/11/03/senate-to-block-competing-infrastructure-plans.html http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2015/03/25/478B-Infrastructure-Bill-Blocked-Senate-GOP http://thehill.com/policy/finance/262171-obama-signs-305b-highway-bill |
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Title: Re: For Whom The Road Tolls.... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/17/17 at 11:36:20 Is there a push to audit the fuel taxes collected in those links? |
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Title: Re: For Whom The Road Tolls.... Post by T And T Garage on 03/17/17 at 11:49:30 2A353334292E1F2F1F27353972400 wrote:
Nope - but simple consumption x tax will give you about $32B 140B gallons x .23 (average fuel tax) - abut what was reported. |
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Title: Re: For Whom The Road Tolls.... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/17/17 at 16:55:43 32 BillYun Dawlurs and they need a toll road? |
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Title: Re: For Whom The Road Tolls.... Post by MnSpring on 03/18/17 at 10:25:11 485751564B4C7D4D7D45575B10220 wrote:
Perhaps, it was. 'collected', but was it spent, to build/maintain roads? OR spent, Just like the Leveys in 'Orleans, or the Spillways in Calf? |
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Title: Re: For Whom The Road Tolls.... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/18/17 at 11:03:16 Don't get me started on the levies. |
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Title: Re: For Whom The Road Tolls.... Post by pg on 03/18/17 at 16:15:04 What is your concern with levies? Best regards, |
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Title: Re: For Whom The Road Tolls.... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/18/17 at 16:40:22 http://www.whale.to/b/levees_blown.html I'm probably alone in remembering the battles to keep communications up. It took people with guns to stop the lines being cut. Trucks with supplies were not allowed in. People trying to escape the flooded zone were forced to turn back, that was reported as truthfully as Waco. |
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Title: Re: For Whom The Road Tolls.... Post by pg on 03/18/17 at 16:58:39 Yes, much about Katrina was not reported. Bodies 15 to 20 feet high strung through trees 5+ miles from the shore line, martial law, people shooting each other at gas stations for gas & ice, some truly horrific sights. The tidal surge was 27 feet in between Gulfport & Biloxi. The levies failed because they were antiquated as well as neglected. Best regards, |
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Title: Re: For Whom The Road Tolls.... Post by MnSpring on 03/18/17 at 17:24:36 342325292636440 wrote:
I will also Respond. The Levies were Designed, by people that knew what they were doing. The building of those, was NOT to the original design. It was a band aid, and the bulk of the Federal Money, (Taxes), collected to protect the low lying area people was freely given, by the Tax Payers. The DEMOCRATS, in Charge, Built sub standard, cut corners, and ignored, the people that knew what they were doing. The DEMOCRATS, (Lefties), Put the extra money, in THEIR POCKETS. Had Lavish Dinners, (meetings), with $400.00 bottles of wine. In fact, some, now have a new place to live, "A JAIL") And most, are in Belize. (No Extradition) New Orleans, did NOT, Flood, because of the Hurricane, It flooded because the Levies Failed. It flooded. because, the, 'board' of Democrats, (In charge of building something, as to the specifications of, people that knew what they were doing) CHEATED, STOLE, and LIED, all why STUFFING Their own Pockets. Don't know yet, but wonder why the Spillways in Calf, Failed? Da Ya Tink, Could be the same thing ???? Well, that would only be, if their was a Bunch of Socialistic, Leftists Democrats, in charge. Who's personal Goal was to, 'Stuff Their Pockets". Which could Never happen in Calf. Just ask a 'snowflake', or 'Fairy Dust Sprinkler'. |
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