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/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl General Category >> The Cafe >> Noob to it all /cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1489779651 Message started by Packman on 03/17/17 at 12:40:51 |
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Title: Noob to it all Post by Packman on 03/17/17 at 12:40:51 Hello! My name is Ryan Im from the Cleveland area of Ohio. I just bought a 2001 Savage. Its kinda beat up and I plan on doing some fixes on it to get back to lookin perdy. This is my first bike and at the end of the month I take my drivers safety course and test for my license. I'm absolutely new to all of this but beyond excited. Im not that mechanically inclined I have put a a lift on a jeep and do easy maintenance. Is there anything on the bike that I should check over or know about before I take it riding? Ive ordered new turn signals, mirrors, and that thing that makes your brake blink. Ill post some pics when I figure it out. Looking forward to it all! Thanks packman |
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Title: Re: Noob to it all Post by ohiomoto on 03/17/17 at 12:57:45 How many miles are on it. There are a few thing you need to look for, but they are mostly reliable. I'm in the Cleveland area as well and I have a lot of parts listed in the classified on here. Things like seats, fenders, tank, grips, forks, etc. |
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Title: Re: Noob to it all Post by Gary_in_NJ on 03/17/17 at 13:13:54 Welcome to motorcycling. How 'bout some photos of the bike. That might get some questions and comments going. |
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Title: Re: Noob to it all Post by verslagen1 on 03/17/17 at 13:42:59 http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1344399573 http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1366651397 and go to the tech section and grab the owner manual. |
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Title: Re: Noob to it all Post by Packman on 03/17/17 at 13:51:39 Im just opened an imgur account and am uploading some pics. The bike has 13,xxx miles, Im pretty sure its missing the right hand side battery cover?, right side cover/panel thingy, has a pretty big tank dent, some chips and rust, a bent front left peg, missing rear passenger peg(wont need), missing the rear right blinker, hole in the brake light cover, and missing the fork keys.. It runs tho lol. I ordered all new blinkers, the thing that makes your brake blink when applied, new mirrors, gunmetal plasti dip, dent puller from harbor freight, and 4 replacemnt keys. |
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Title: Re: Noob to it all Post by Packman on 03/17/17 at 13:57:38 WHOA! wtf the pics are huge |
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Title: Re: Noob to it all Post by verslagen1 on 03/17/17 at 14:01:57 If you can resize them to 800x600 |
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Title: Re: Noob to it all Post by Packman on 03/17/17 at 14:09:49 thanks http://i.imgur.com/WLNpXC3.jpg?1 http://i.imgur.com/QzlgX4T.jpg?1 http://i.imgur.com/YWE6VkK.jpg?1 http://i.imgur.com/VmUJkLt.jpg?1 http://i.imgur.com/woIRfiD.jpg?1 http://i.imgur.com/7FeVDCe.jpg?1 |
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Title: Re: Noob to it all Post by springman on 03/17/17 at 14:15:50 Looking good. Welcome. |
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Title: Re: Noob to it all Post by verslagen1 on 03/17/17 at 14:23:23 The pegs are too bent, those can be straightened. Take them off, remove the rubber, abuse with your favorite. |
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Title: Re: Noob to it all Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/17/17 at 16:54:02 That's enough miles to be time to check the cam chain. |
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Title: Re: Noob to it all Post by gizzo on 03/17/17 at 17:03:32 Nice cars, man. They must be economical. Welcome aboard. |
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Title: Re: Noob to it all Post by ohiomoto on 03/18/17 at 07:03:26 We can make it look like new if you want: http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1485873414 |
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Title: Re: Noob to it all Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/18/17 at 08:14:29 This is my first bike and at the end of the month I take my drivers safety course and test for my license. If you dive into making it all pretty and drop it you'll be unhappy. Recommend you get it ready to ride, enjoy the summer, see how it goes. The cam chain is not something to trifle with. And you have no idea if the owner adjusted the valves. Before you pull the plug, check out the cavity it sits in. Crud can get in and fall into the cylinder. Before you pull the tank, prepare a place to set it down and not mess up the speedometer cable. You should just ditch the petcock and put the Yamaha Raptor petcock on it. Not some$12.00 Chinese knockoff, though. Genuine Yamaha part. |
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Title: Re: Noob to it all Post by Gary_in_NJ on 03/18/17 at 09:55:47 Great first bike. A first bike will: - Get dropped at a stop sign - Will fall over in your driveway - Will get knocked over by the kids - Will get hit by your wife's car The other thing I like about this bike, you will learn how to work on it - because it needs work. Things like foot pegs and directionals are available because so many of these bikes get turned into something else. For now, focus on getting safe to ride (brakes, tires, lighting), able to pass inspection, and mechanically sound (clean carb, timing chain, oil change...). |
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Title: Re: Noob to it all Post by MMRanch on 03/18/17 at 20:42:03 PackMan Suzuki did a great job on 95% of the LS-650 , and we have identified the few mistakes Suzuki made . We have easy cures for the "OverLooked 5%" , these bike are good for over 100,000 miles with a very little help ... one of my two bikes is a LS-650 ! You've stumbled on a jack pot , so welcome aboard ! :) |
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Title: Re: Noob to it all Post by Kruzader on 03/19/17 at 00:46:15 Welcome. I can first hand justify everyone's comment here. Close to a year ago I was in your shoes, brand new to it all. The members here are awesome, there is tons of information. If you are not mechanically inclined, that's not a problem - neither was I. I have to tell you that I dropped my bike the first ride on my drive way. Broke a rear signal light. With that said, and considering that you don't have some... there are tons of aftermarket ones you can buy. They are inexpensive if you break them, but you cant compare them to OEM lights. Light are the first thing other vehicles will notice you with. As for the pegs, you can hammer them, but for less than 40 bucks I found a solution to new ones. And finally, do the petcock... almost everyone here will mention it, and in the year I been here, lots of the stalling problems people come in are due to it. Is a $25 dollar and 45 min job. What else... let me see.. oh yea... HAVE FUN! |
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Title: Re: Noob to it all Post by Dave on 03/20/17 at 03:52:15 If you replace the turn signals with aftermarket or LED ones - don't go chap and buy the Chinese stuff off eBay. They are not bright enough to be seen in the daylight, and will not get the attention of the person driving behind you. Get used factory ones if you can - they are the only ones that will bolt on without modifying the mounts or wiring. Same for the tail/brake light if you ever decide to change that for something else - good ones are DOT approved. Don't go cheap! |
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Title: Re: Noob to it all Post by Packman on 03/20/17 at 19:10:25 Thank you everyone for the welcome and the tips! I finally got down and personal with the bike for the first time tonight and darn. I know it's been dropped on both sides and all but when I got close I swear half of this bike is rigged together with screws you'd either dry wall your house with or other ones that you'd build a kinect model with. Hell the seat is missing both screws and the positive terminal is striped out. I know it could be worse and that's what I'm scared of cause I haven't even began to look at the stuff that's actually important (I'm guessing the handle bars are super glued on). Well I didn't pay much for it but I didn't expect all this. Is there a master guide to tell me which size screws and bolts I need to find? I'd rather get the right nuts rather then just slap it together with screws from a bookshelf. [img][/img] |
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Title: Re: Noob to it all Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/20/17 at 19:29:13 You'll be able to save money by going into the industrial part of town to the industrial nut and bolt supply. If wrong bolts are stuffed into places, you might need to chase the threads with a tap. If you have one bolt that fits in other places, use it to buy the others. I'd be just getting it running before any cosmetic stuff. Check the wiring out. Has it been parked outside for years? A Dent Puller? Electric? Or drill and screw? I'd hafta see the cam chain before I even started it. Clearly owned by a real maintenance minded guy. The valves may never have been touched. |
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Title: Re: Noob to it all Post by Dave on 03/21/17 at 02:41:40 And.....don't attempt to fire that thing up without lubing the cylinder/piston first. After years of sitting, the piston/cylinder will have lost nearly all of the oil that was clinging to it. One member on this forum started a bike up that had been sitting 3 years, and it scored the piston/cylinder waiting for the oil to start flowing. Buy some Sta-Bil Fogging oil and spray it in the spark plug hole to get things lubed before you attempt to turn the engine over or start it. You can get it at any Big Box or Auto supply store. https://www.walmart.com/ip/Sta-Bil-22001-Fogging-Oil-12-Oz.-Aerosol/32926613 And don't change the oil/filter before getting it running, as the new filter will have to fill up with oil before any will start flowing to the engine. It is better to start it with the old oil and get the parts lubed, then change the oil filter. |
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Title: Re: Noob to it all Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/21/17 at 05:12:35 If it's been on its side since last it ran the cam lube tub is empty. Popping the valve cover s and putting some assembly lube on the lobes might not be stupid. |
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Title: Re: Noob to it all Post by Gary_in_NJ on 03/21/17 at 05:19:27 033230383E323D530 wrote:
My inclination for a bike like that is just to tear it down and rebuild it one bolt/nut at a time - but I've been wrenching on my own bikes since I was 10 years old. Most of the exploded views of a bike provide manufacturers part numbers rather then "M8x25" so you can't go to your local ACE or Lowes and pick up replacement hardware. THAT'S IT! Go to your local ACE or Lowes - they have a small metric section. You'll find that most of the hardware is in the M5, M6, M8 range. Put similar nuts and bolts in a ziplock bag, label where they came from, then match them up at the store. My ACE even had a gauge (labeled board with bolts and nuts on it) on the wall where you can determine the exact diameter and pitch. This bike is a paint can shaker, so get yourself some blue loctite for final assembly. |
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