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Title: N. Korea..... Post by raydawg on 04/15/17 at 20:01:26 What a joke. They have been barking for decades, no bite. If Trump keeps up crap re: them, it only gives them legitimacy. Or, maybe we just need to spend our weaponry so we can make new ones. I am getting spooked by this power crap, and it seems too many folks from both sides of the isle and media are digging it.... |
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Title: Re: N. Korea..... Post by oldNslow on 04/16/17 at 07:29:19 Quote:
A distressingly large percentage of the world is run by psychopaths. And a distressingly large percentage of the folks who aren't actually in charge of anything,just keep right on encouraging and cheering for the psycho's bullsh*t. I don't think that's likely to change. |
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Title: Re: N. Korea..... Post by Serowbot on 04/16/17 at 08:22:02 The danger here is two fragile, narcissistic ego's... neither will back down... neither will consider the welfare of the people they represent... It's all about them... :-? |
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Title: Re: N. Korea..... Post by raydawg on 04/16/17 at 10:59:57 2036213C24313C27530 wrote:
Two.......???? Oh yeah, I am sure if Hillary had one she would be baking cookies with him instead of threatening to bomb him.... Gotcha Doctor Bot. Did you even bother to look at the link I posted from Politico, hardly a right wing website, comparing Trump and Hillary.... Of course not, it's fake news cuz it bust your bubble :-* And before you "call me out" again, remember, your bro T & T remarked on a post/reply, how he enjoys tweaking others of opposing views. I would hate to see you look like a hypocrite ;D |
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Title: Re: N. Korea..... Post by oldNslow on 04/16/17 at 11:33:13 Quote:
I don't think there is anything "fragile" about Trump or his ego. Poke him and he pokes back. In the present state of things in the world, that isn't necessarily a bad thing. Putin, Assad, and Kim - who isn't "fragile" either in my opinion - he's just bat-sh*t crazy, are rethinking their positions vis. the US I believe. Kim must have expected that missile launch to work. Going to be some poor bast*rds lined up in front of his anti aircraft cannon with blindfolds on and their last cigarette hanging out of their mouths, in the next coupla of days. |
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Title: Re: N. Korea..... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/16/17 at 18:37:21 The Ultimate in Unintended Consequences |
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Title: Re: N. Korea..... Post by T And T Garage on 04/17/17 at 08:55:50 4452455840555843370 wrote:
Wait... you mean to say donny is narcissistic?? Really?? Naww... that can't be! LOL ;) |
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Title: Re: N. Korea..... Post by pg on 04/17/17 at 16:04:11 1927262A3824254B0 wrote:
Does he really do that or is that just BS headlines? Best regards, |
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Title: Re: N. Korea..... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/17/17 at 16:47:19 Who knows how much about everything is just lies? |
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Title: Re: N. Korea..... Post by oldNslow on 04/17/17 at 17:04:16 7760666A6575070 wrote:
Does he really do that or is that just BS headlines? Best regards,[/quote] Guy that cuts Kim's hair got it this morning. Right after Kim accidentally looked in a mirror. 20 MM AP round right in the puss. Honest. |
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Title: Re: N. Korea..... Post by raydawg on 04/17/17 at 17:36:12 6856575B4955543A0 wrote:
Does he really do that or is that just BS headlines? Best regards,[/quote] Guy that cuts Kim's hair got it this morning. Right after Kim accidentally looked in a mirror. 20 MM AP round right in the puss. Honest. [/quote] Gee, I only thought women get that mad about their hair ;D I heard some interesting takes on how China will be the power that brings this guy down. I was at work building planes, when the whole China entourage came through, President and all. I remember thinking it wasn't anything like I had been taught to think about them. They looked like they were at Disneyland ;D Even the president was shaking the hands of grunts like me. I think they like capitalism.... We'll see, but it would sure prove a better alliance to have the USA and China as allies than enemies. |
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Title: Re: N. Korea..... Post by Dagillespi on 04/17/17 at 18:53:29 I think it might be time that someone explains exactly how powerless Kim is on his own. Either us or China it's still the equivalent of a doberman pinscher taking on a toy chihuahua. |
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Title: Re: N. Korea..... Post by WebsterMark on 04/18/17 at 05:05:57 except..... that Chihuahua got some fire power behind him that all he has to do is push a button. He should have been taken out years ago, we should have killed him. |
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Title: Re: N. Korea..... Post by oldNslow on 04/18/17 at 05:58:40 https://www.stratfor.com/analysis/how-north-korea-would-retaliate "The most significant threat from North Korea's ballistic missile stockpile is the potential for a nuclear strike. Some estimates indicate North Korea may have between two and five nuclear warheads at its disposal already, at least some of which could be made to fit on a Nodong missile. Even a single nuclear strike against a South Korean population center would result in catastrophic shock and incur an immense cost. Though a nuclear strike would not automatically guarantee Seoul's capitulation, South Korea and the United States factor the possibility of such a strike heavily into their considerations of a strike on the North's nuclear program." |
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Title: Re: N. Korea..... Post by Paraquat on 04/18/17 at 06:05:53 North Korea is not a viable threat. They bought Saddam's surplus. What do they have? A few T72 tanks, MAYBE still operational? A vintage V2 rocket? We SHREDDED those T72's back in the early 90's during Desert Storm and we've since had 20 years of weapons development and advancement that NK hasn't been privy to. Coupled with ICBM and the satellite technology the US has at its disposal, they aren't even a speed bump. --Steve |
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Title: Re: N. Korea..... Post by oldNslow on 04/18/17 at 06:25:16 7544574454504451250 wrote:
Not to the US. If you lived in Seoul, your perspective might be somewhat different though. |
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Title: Re: N. Korea..... Post by raydawg on 04/18/17 at 06:44:14 I just do not believe they have the ability to deliver any weapon that has close to the capacity they brag..... I think if they armed a launch with a payload, they pretty much blow themselves up with another failure, or it's blown from the sky with a defensive strike by us, or China. The poverty in that country is astounding and folks will readily rise if they know help exsist. I feel S. Korea and China can make a play for it. |
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Title: Re: N. Korea..... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/18/17 at 06:54:27 I think it's probably just a shakedown attempt. New Sheriff in town, Americans are sick of wars, Sheriff Promised to knock off the wars, so Kimmy throws a fit, puffs up, threatens the world with unparalleled DeStrukkshun, yeah, yeah, yawwnn, Here's fifteen million dollars, shut up and go to your room. |
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Title: Re: N. Korea..... Post by verslagen1 on 04/18/17 at 07:40:58 467473626574635C70637A110 wrote:
That would make the chihuahua a skunk. |
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Title: Re: N. Korea..... Post by Dagillespi on 04/18/17 at 15:58:39 I understand that he may be a threat to South Korea, but is the threat diminishing over time or getting stronger. I'll put it in a perspective I believe we all can appreciate in the form of a question. Hey guys my cam chain tensioner is sounding pretty rough. Should I fix it now or just wait till it comes apart just to see how bad it really is? |
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Title: Re: N. Korea..... Post by pg on 04/18/17 at 17:30:38 All the guy does is talk and posture, that's it. Best regards, |
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Title: Re: N. Korea..... Post by MnSpring on 04/18/17 at 19:36:22 3A252324393E0F3F0F37252962500 wrote:
"...Here's fifteen million dollars, shut up and go to your room..." Gee, is that not the same as the, 'Wanna Be King', DID !!!!!!! Might be a little different, with this POTUS. |
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Title: Re: N. Korea..... Post by oldNslow on 04/18/17 at 20:48:30 Quote:
I don't think so. What are Trumps options. militarily ? Can't use nukes. Certainly not preemptively. And from a practical standpoint North Korea is way to small and too close to South Korea, Japan, China and even Russia for that to be a possibility. The fallout would not be contained to North Korea. Air strikes with conventional munitions are not sufficient by themselves to bring a country to it's knees unless they relentlessly target civilian populations. And that takes time. No way Trump gets away with that. North Korea would by no means be a pushover in a ground war. It took six months to get sufficient resources in place on the Iraq border before the push to Baghdad. And Iraq is desert. Ideal for mechanised infantry and armor. North Korea is not. A large portion of it is mountains. Don't forget that the first Korean conflict wasn't settled . What exists is merely an armistice - a cease fire. North Korea in no way believes that it lost that war, nor that it is really over. It would be a huge mistake to underestimate either it's resolve and its ability to defend itself from an invasion of it's territory. Technological superiority isn't such a huge advantage in a war of attrition when everyone is walking and carrying their sh*t on their back. The US is not right now ready to fight a war like that, either militarily, or, more importantly, politically. Do you think that Trump, congress, or whomever, is going to be able to sell a war like that; a multi year war with the likelihood of tens of thousands of American casualties, to the American people Possibly I suppose, but it would be a huge mistake. So. Stalemate. Unless, or until. Kim actually launches an attack first, which I don't think he's likely to do. I think the two big shots are just going to keep flipping each other the bird, and yelling "F*ck You!" at each other for a while. At least I hope so. |
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Title: Re: N. Korea..... Post by MnSpring on 04/19/17 at 18:36:19 655B5A56445859370 wrote:
Yep agree. Area, will not work with Nukes, and the ground area, would be like V.M. The N.K. Dictator, can’t pull up his pants with both hands, And, if he ever accomplished a missile launch, their would be 15 + Countries that would shoot it down before it left N. Korea air space. He is just like the child, in the grocery store with his, Mother, Throwing a Temper Tantrum, (wanting this or that candy) Because in the last 8 years, he GOT, his, ‘candy’. (He, LEARNED, that worked with the, ‘wanna be king’). If he, even remotely looks today, at other places, he will find out, ’Not Gonna Happen’ ! |
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Title: Re: N. Korea..... Post by Trippah on 04/19/17 at 19:35:42 The real question, in my mind, is why China has allowed this foolishness to continue. Heck, they are a more logical target for Korean bombs than the US. Is Korea China's "enemy on the border" which gives them the "need" for their large Chinese standing army. The justification?? I suspect they simply do NOT want a unified Korea, which would be an economic powerhouse. As far as selling such a war, the usual gambit is to sacrifice a few soldiers or sailors, then run around crying we can't let those brave men die in vain (so we fight another war and lose 10K more dead, 1/2 million mentally screwed. |
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Title: Re: N. Korea..... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/20/17 at 04:18:18 far as selling such a war, the usual gambit is to sacrifice a few soldiers or sailors, then run around crying we can't let those brave men die in vain (so we fight another war and lose 10K more dead, 1/2 million mentally screwed. People who have not figured that out yet are silly. Odd, people see this but not the sneakier crap. |
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Title: Re: N. Korea..... Post by pg on 04/20/17 at 06:31:44 1F39223B3B2A234B0 wrote:
It appears they trade approximately 6B a year. Other than, I don't know why any one would tolerate that regime. https://www.pri.org/stories/2017-02-15/north-koreas-trade-china-has-grown-tenfold-15-years-which-gives-china-more Best regards, |
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Title: Re: N. Korea..... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/20/17 at 07:21:11 Ever play Risk? Look at the landmass of the Korean peninsula. Look at the China/Korean border. Look at the strategic benefit of having a belligerent force to defend the peninsula that borders China. All of the shoreline that China doesn't have to worry about... |
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