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Title: Many issues Post by Arty Dodger on 04/16/17 at 00:03:20 Ok so I have many issues. First when I removed the spark plug boot, the boot came off but there was an additional rubber piece attached to the spark plug? Pulled it off and tried to put it back in the boot but it wouldn't go far. Finally got it stuck in the boot, but now the spark plug boot won't go on the spark plug. My question is...Do I need it? Does the boot suppose to go all the way down the spark plug? Wondering why I am looking at the spark plug? Well because my bike won't start (I just put the darn thing back together). After taking out the spark plug to see if it was sparking, I noticed a puddle of gas under the bike. Seems to be flooding because it was leaking through the air filter (I have a pancake filter attached directly to the carb) Clean the carb you say? Just got the carb back from sending it to a professional to clean it and check it. So yea, anyone can help with my above issues? |
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Title: Re: Many issues Post by Dave on 04/16/17 at 03:30:17 The rubber boot on the spark plug cap seals out water. If you have to ride in the rain......the front wheel throws water everywhere, and most likely your spark plug will stop working without that rubber seal. Have you checked to see if any fuel is getting to the carb? Did you try moving the petcock lever to PRI? Fuel in the air box is very often caused when the diaphragm fails in the stock vacuum operated petcock. Pull the vacuum line that operates the petcock, and see if there is any fuel in it - it is supposed to be dry. |
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Title: Re: Many issues Post by Arty Dodger on 04/16/17 at 07:43:30 02393423323E252338303D22510 wrote:
++++++++++++++++++++++++±+++++++++ Well my concern with the boot is that the little rubber stopper is attached inside the boot, but it seems to not allow the spark plug to fully connect to the lead. If I take the little stopper price off then I can push the boot all the way down to where the leads touch the spark plug. I'll post a picture to see because I'm having a hard time explaining it As far as the gas in air filter, I have the raptor petcock installed so I have the vacuum line on the right side plugged. |
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Title: Re: Many issues Post by Arty Dodger on 04/16/17 at 08:02:21 Here's the photos of the spark plug boot and cap http://spinnerentertainment.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/IMG_20170416_095610-375x500.jpg http://spinnerentertainment.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/IMG_20170416_095549-375x500.jpg |
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Title: Re: Many issues Post by Gary_in_NJ on 04/16/17 at 12:20:39 Leave it off for now, it's not required to be the bike running. Once you have it running you can always work on reinstalling it. To be honest, my bike doesn't have that boot. I also avoid riding in the rain so I'd never miss it. |
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Title: Re: Many issues Post by batman on 04/16/17 at 16:35:02 If you can feel the wire slipping over the threads on the plug ,that should give you a firm connection,Yes the boot goes all the way down the plug,the part in the center of your hand has the rubber that seals around the outside of the plug and prevents any water from entering, I don't know what the piece is between your finger and thumb ,but I think it may belong up inside the boot you may have to try taking off the outside seal and reinserting it . I don't believe the front tire will throw water that high, and even if it does I' ve never seen water run uphill (the plug connection should stay dry it's up inside the cap). Assumeing your raptor petcock to be good ,the problem with your carb is, float valve hung up,or leaking by,float leaking(sinking),float level set too high,float installed upside down. all of which causes the level to be to high or the valve not to fully close or close to late,at which point gas flows out the carb one of two ways,into your air cleaner or into your oil (or both!) P.S. in the first pic. your decomp. cable looks bone tight, there needs to a bit of play in it ,I'd check the adjustment. |
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Title: Re: Many issues Post by Arty Dodger on 04/16/17 at 21:56:41 And the darwin award goes to....Me! I think that rubber boot went to my spark plug wrench. Yup. Happens. Anyways, replaced the spark plug and have my battery on charge. Should I try to start it tomorrow or take the carb out and check that? I took the carb to a professional and they cleaned it so hopefully they didn't do anything wrong when putting it back together.... |
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Title: Re: Many issues Post by LANCER on 04/16/17 at 23:39:52 2330363B262D26252730420 wrote:
Based on past reports here of "Professional" work done on our simple little carburetor, I would not bet on it being cleaned properly and assembled correctly. It is possible that it was done correctly but ......... ?? |
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Title: Re: Many issues Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/17/17 at 06:26:02 We've seen Perpheshunalls install the oil filter bakkerds. Paying someone is no guarantee of their skill, knowledge and willingness to do a good job. |
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Title: Re: Many issues Post by Arty Dodger on 04/17/17 at 06:44:00 5E4147405D5A6B5B6B53414D06340 wrote:
++++++++++++++ If ya want something done right, gotta do it yourself! Guess I'll be taking the thing apart. |
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Title: Re: Many issues Post by batman on 04/17/17 at 09:12:51 If you have fuel dripping out your air filter ,believe me ,something is not right and it won't cure itself ,you might try tapping lightly on the side of the carb with a screwdriver handle to see if the float is hung up ,before you disassemble it.If that doesn't work see my earlier post. |
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Title: Re: Many issues Post by Gary_in_NJ on 04/17/17 at 09:43:42 4655535E434843404255270 wrote:
Good news for me...I don't have to go track down a part that doesn't exist. Let us know how the carb works. A cleaning and a reset of the float height should be within the capability of a "pro" mechanic...and perhaps yourself. Don't be afraid to tackle this one next time. |
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Title: Re: Many issues Post by Arty Dodger on 04/17/17 at 09:53:59 616B6F656E67636A343236060 wrote:
Good news for me...I don't have to go track down a part that doesn't exist. Let us know how the carb works. A cleaning and a reset of the float height should be within the capability of a "pro" mechanic...and perhaps yourself. Don't be afraid to tackle this one next time.[/quote] +++++++++++++++++++++ That's why I was so frustrated because I couldn't find that piece anywhere online lol. Yea a buddy of mine works at a dealership so he cleaned it for free which is why I got him to do it but maybe something happened. I don't know. I'll try to tapping on the bowl technique and see if that worked. |
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Title: Re: Many issues Post by Arty Dodger on 04/17/17 at 09:56:36 2221342D212E7478400 wrote:
±++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Thanks! I'll check on that cable and see. How would I know the optimal cable slack? |
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Title: Re: Many issues Post by Arty Dodger on 04/17/17 at 10:14:28 This video was before I noticed the gas was coming out of the air filter. May shed some light on why it's not cranking? https://youtu.be/8_Z9yWVABY8 |
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Title: Re: Many issues Post by Gary_in_NJ on 04/17/17 at 10:35:20 Is the RUN switch on the right control in the correct position? Also, I'd let it crank a bit more. You give up after just one cycle. |
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Title: Re: Many issues Post by Arty Dodger on 04/17/17 at 10:45:38 757F7B717A73777E202622120 wrote:
It clicks off. It doesn't let me go more than one cycle. |
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Title: Re: Many issues Post by Gary_in_NJ on 04/17/17 at 11:22:46 Then the battery is too low to start the bike . Get it on a charger for a few hours. |
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Title: Re: Many issues Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/17/17 at 11:27:11 Monitor the voltage with a meter. Know when it's done and stop. Don't wanna overcook it. |
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