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Title: Not worthy Post by T And T Garage on 06/05/17 at 16:15:43 This is how the Muslim faithful see these pathetic terrorists (sad that a few on here won't believe it or give it credence): http://www.yahoo.com/news/disavowing-attacks-british-imams-say-wont-bury-terrorists-202334608.html |
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Title: Re: Not worthy Post by Serowbot on 06/05/17 at 16:22:25 Human beings are good... 99.99% of them, of all races and ethnicities. It's really a very good world. It's just a few,.. really muck things up... PS... My buddy Gerry, a FSO here, just had a serious trike crash... Wish him healing in the Cafe... Peace, Serow |
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Title: Re: Not worthy Post by WebsterMark on 06/05/17 at 16:51:55 Haven't either of you read the polls of percentages of Muslims supporting Islamist? Hope your buddy Gerry is okay. |
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Title: Re: Not worthy Post by MnSpring on 06/05/17 at 17:28:12 Not Worthy, ??????????????? Let’s see, 132, ‘Religious Leaders’, ‘Clerics’, and 3 MILLION followers? What percent it that ? Looks like, .005% Love the statement, one, cleric, said: “To my knowledge, there is not a single mosque in the country that preaches hate, violence, or extremism,” Here are some sites that talk, JUST about the UK JUST the UK. This is a Tiny Fraction, talking about the UK. World Wide, it would take Days, and Pages upon Pages to list them all. http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/dispatches-undercover-mosque/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Btx0mm5KCMI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gpoA68EDwA https://www.theguardian.com/media/2008/aug/22/channel4.islam http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/2653266/Preachers-of-separatism-at-work-inside-Britains-mosques.html https://www.facebook.com/OfficialBritainFirst/videos/798585056953424/ http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/britains-new-preachers-of-hate-446268 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/west_midlands/6936681.stm https://www.therebel.media/danish_documentary_ends_mega_mosque_project Just a few quotes from the Numerous sites. Which the SAME, is repeated by, NUMEROUS, ’news’ outlets. Germany where factual information about Islam is not permitted on social media like Facebook, or the rest of the West rapidly succumbing to UN resolution 16/18 norms along with Obama's CVE. Because if you want people to move your way, you have to make sure they don't know anything else. undercover investigation into home-grown extremism has revealed hard-line Islamic fundamentalism being preached in British mosques The radical ideology, which is bitterly opposed to multi-culturalism and integration, is spreading in Britain. And it's coming from clerics in a country that the British government claims is its main Middle Eastern ally in the fight against terrorism. As hundreds of women and some children came to pray, a preacher called for adulterers, homosexuals, women who act like men and Muslim converts to other faiths to be killed, saying: "Kill him, kill him. You have to kill him, you understand. This is Islam.” (WOW Found a Buyer for those Lots in Iowa !!!!!) |
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Title: Re: Not worthy Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/05/17 at 17:32:16 Who engages in honor killings? Who mutilates clits? Believe whatever bullshit makes you happy. |
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Title: Re: Not worthy Post by MnSpring on 06/05/17 at 17:40:29 6076617C64717C67130 wrote:
Human beings are good... 99.99% of them Well, 99.99% Don't know, but I do not believe that. To get a accurate %, I believe, one would have to know the World Population, (And that number most certainly would be a (+/-) Number. Then, find out, how many are in Jail, in ALL, jails, World wide. (Probably even a bigger (+/-) number. Then, decide the %, with of course a, (+/-) Then, 'Accuracy', not really your strong suit. (Hey JOG, do I smell Polyester Burning ?) My buddy Gerry, a FSO here, just had a serious trike crash... That is sad. Let the Doctors, do what ever magic they can. You, Keep his Spirits UP !!!!! The Mind, is the Body's, Best Healer ! |
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Title: Re: Not worthy Post by T And T Garage on 06/05/17 at 18:39:55 LOL - look at the tiny, tiny minds...... Gotta love good old fashioned bigotry! SMH |
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Title: Re: Not worthy Post by T And T Garage on 06/05/17 at 18:41:17 5046514C54414C57230 wrote:
Wishing Gerry a full recovery. |
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Title: Re: Not worthy Post by oldNslow on 06/05/17 at 19:22:53 Quote:
Yup. Can't hardly get more bigoted than someone that's willing to kill another person for refusing to convert to a half ass*d religion cooked up by a pedophile. though. Oh, wait. It's me that's the bigot. "cause I don't like that head chopping, blowing folks up sh*t. Sorry . I forget sometimes. |
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Title: Re: Not worthy Post by T And T Garage on 06/05/17 at 19:30:53 5B6564687A6667090 wrote:
Well, it's obvious that you have no idea what Islam is about. Go get to know some actual Muslims. I know plenty of Christians that are far more intolerant. There seem to be a few on here actually.... The nazis had their version of god on their belt buckles, the kkk have their version of god in their pure white race and let's not forget all the wonderful things that went on in the Inquisition and a hundred other "Christian" movements... So yeah, go ahead and fear the Muslims - but don't forget about all the other religions of the world. |
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Title: Re: Not worthy Post by pg on 06/05/17 at 19:33:49 5F414E4F425F44592B0 wrote:
They are the only group participating in those activities on a regular basis. Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Not worthy Post by oldNslow on 06/05/17 at 19:51:17 Quote:
I don't fear muslims. I despise their intolerance of non muslims. And accusing me of not knowing anything about Islam - or other religions for that matter, isn't going to fly I'm afraid. Neither are lame comparisons between my views and those of nazis and members of groups like the KKK. You go right on making excuses for inexcusable behavior. |
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Title: Re: Not worthy Post by T And T Garage on 06/05/17 at 19:52:35 76484945574B4A240 wrote:
Right back at ya! |
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Title: Re: Not worthy Post by oldNslow on 06/05/17 at 20:03:24 Quote:
Well, there's a cogent, well thought out rebuttal. For a five year old. ::) |
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Title: Re: Not worthy Post by T And T Garage on 06/05/17 at 20:20:23 1B2524283A2627490 wrote:
Well, it was worthy of your well thought out nonsense... err... fear... err.. self justification..... |
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Title: Re: Not worthy Post by Serowbot on 06/05/17 at 22:02:27 The thing here is... there is a balance... Strict actions may reduce the import of radicals,.. but may radiaclize the disenfranchised already here... Lax actions may import radicals... but stern nationalism may radicalise... We already have an extensive vetting process, taking as much as 2 years, for accepting refuges... So far,.. we have radicalised more legal citizens than we have allowed terrorists to enter... The balance is off... ... but we sway the wrong direction for correction... I rhymed... ;D |
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Title: Re: Not worthy Post by WebsterMark on 06/06/17 at 04:58:30 A hug, a song, a kiss, a kind word and that man who was about to put a backpack bomb full of ball bearings next to a kid watching his mom run a race would change is mind. The problem is you think that, you wish that, but it's not true. It's never been true. You typed earlier 99.99% of people are good, but that's not true either. I wish it were. Just read this in today WSJ and it's fits here. Theodore Dalrymple June 5, 2017 1:03 p.m. ET The only man I ever met whose ambition was to be a suicide bomber was an inmate at the British prison where I worked as a doctor in the 1990s and 2000s. He was a career criminal of very nasty propensities whose father was Arab and mother English. He had reached his 30s, the age at which criminals usually turn away from crime in favor of something better—in his case the killing of as many infidels as possible, along with himself. Coming to religion is one reason, or pretext, for abandoning crime. In the prison there was much more Islamic evangelism than Christian. I would find Qurans and Islamic pamphlets in drawers, insinuated there by I knew not whom, but never Bibles or Christian pamphlets. I interpreted religion as the means prisoners used to rationalize giving up common crime while at the same time not feeling defeated by, or having surrendered to, the society around them—for they knew conversion to Islam gave that society the shudders. The problem for the security services, however, is that there is no invariable profile, social or psychological, of the Muslim terrorist. Nor is there a kind of economic lever that can be pulled so that, with better material prospects, young Muslims will be less attracted to terrorism. There have, it is true, been no-hopers among the terrorists, but there have also been medical students and doctors. There was nothing (except himself) impeding the recent Manchester bomber from having a normal or even a highly successful career. As Prime Minister Theresa May rightly said after the most recent atrocities in London, what the terrorists have in common is an ideology. She rightly called it evil, but it is also stupid: It makes the Baader-Meinhof Gang look like Aristotle. An ideology, however stupid, is not easy to destroy; believing six impossible things before breakfast is almost par for the human course. One obvious thing to do would be to strangle the foreign funding of so much Islamist activity in Britain. That is no doubt complicated in many ways, but no British government, solicitous of trade relations, has dared even try. The British economy is precarious, and it is difficult to be strong when your economy is weak. Instead, we have gone in for what a Dutch friend of mine calls “creative appeasement.” Authorities make concessions even before, one suspects, there have been any demands for them. Thus, a public library in Birmingham, one of the largest known to me, has installed women-only tables, a euphemism for Muslim women only. Whether there was ever a request or demand for sex-segregated seating from Muslims is probably undiscoverable; truth seldom emerges from a public authority. But the justification would almost certainly be that without such tables, Muslim women would not be able to use the library at all. The Birmingham airport has set aside a room for wudu, the Muslim ablutions before prayer. No other religion is catered for in this fashion (nor should they be, in my opinion), so the impression is inevitably given that Islam is in some way favored or privileged. Again, it would be difficult to find out whether they received requests or demands for such a room or merely anticipated them; in either case, weakness is advertised. This is not a local problem alone. Many European airports now set aside a room for “meditation.” The icon used to indicate it almost always carries more of an Islamic connotation than any other. A friend told me that when she went into one such room, she was told by a Muslim to remove her shoes, ecumenism being, of course, a one-way street. My female Muslim patients who had grown up in Britain told me that the school inspectors had never intervened when their parents prevented them from attending school, often for years. On the other hand, white working-class parents were bullied by those inspectors when their refractory 15-year-old daughters refused to go. A few years ago it came to light that police in Rotherham had for decades systematically turned a blind eye to the mass sexual abuse of children—at least 1,400 victims—by Muslim men. This type of willful neglect by the authorities came as no surprise to me. On the contrary, it is precisely what I would have expected. From all this the terrorists surely draw a great deal of comfort. It gives them the impression of living in a weak society that will be easy to destroy, so that their acts are not in the least nihilistic or pointless, as is often claimed. They perceive ours as a candle-and-teddy-bear society (albeit mysteriously endowed with technological prowess): We kill, you light candles. The other day I passed a teddy-bear shop, that is to say a shop that sold nothing but teddy bears. I am sure that terrorism is good for business, but the teddy bears are more reassuring for the terrorists than for those who buy them to place on the site of the latest outrage. Another source of comfort for terrorists is that after every new atrocity, the police are able to arrest multiple suspected accomplices. That suggests the police knew the attackers’ identities in advance but did nothing—in other words, that most of the time terrorists can act with impunity even if known. Here, then, is further evidence of a society that will not defend itself seriously. This is not just a British problem. The April murder of a policeman on the Champs Elysées in Paris was committed by a man who had already tried to kill three policemen, who was known to have become fanaticized, and who was found with vicious weapons in his home. The authorities waited patiently until he struck. Theodore Dalrymple is the pen name of Anthony Daniels, a British physician. Appeared in the June 6, 2017, print edition |
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Title: Re: Not worthy Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/06/17 at 06:45:31 An ideology, however stupid, is not easy to destroy. You can sure say that again.. |
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Title: Re: Not worthy Post by T And T Garage on 06/06/17 at 08:33:02 Yeah, because Christ....... http://jezebel.com/trial-begins-for-the-word-of-faith-fellowship-which-al-1795760025 [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oHS0FVOscE[/media] Tell me again how tolerant Christians are....? |
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Title: Re: Not worthy Post by oldNslow on 06/06/17 at 08:50:12 Please explain how, in your mind, anything that some supposedly Christian sect or other, is doing, once did, or might do in the future, somehow justifies or excuses what Muslim extremists are doing right now, in the name of their religion. And that criticising them. or their enablers, for their actions is somehow bigotry? Do you not see the logical inconsistency? Something like this. 1. Pete is an as*hole. 2. But Joe is also an as*hole. 3. Therefore it must be OK for pete to be an as*shole. |
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Title: Re: Not worthy Post by T And T Garage on 06/06/17 at 09:13:04 447A7B77657978160 wrote:
Please explain how, in your mind, anything that some supposedly Muslim sect or other, is doing, once did, or might do in the future, somehow justifies or excuses what Christian extremists are doing right now, in the name of their religion. And that criticising them. or their enablers, for their actions is somehow bigotry? See what I did there???? |
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Title: Re: Not worthy Post by pg on 06/06/17 at 10:30:05 273936373A273C21530 wrote:
Please explain how, in your mind, anything that some supposedly Muslim sect or other, is doing, once did, or might do in the future, somehow justifies or excuses what Christian extremists are doing right now, in the name of their religion. And that criticising them. or their enablers, for their actions is somehow bigotry? See what I did there????[/quote] As previously stated, it is not Christians committing heinous acts of violence on a monthly if not weekly basis. See what I did there???? I presented indisputable facts!! Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Not worthy Post by T And T Garage on 06/06/17 at 11:14:44 594E48444B5B290 wrote:
You sure about that? http://jezebel.com/trial-begins-for-the-word-of-faith-fellowship-which-al-1795760025 I'd be happy to list more stories like this.... |
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Title: Re: Not worthy Post by pg on 06/06/17 at 11:26:39 445A555459445F42300 wrote:
You sure about that?[/quote] Yep.... 2017 During this time period, there were 924 Islamic attacks in 46 countries, in which 6641 people were killed and 7283 injured. https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks/attacks.aspx?Yr=2017 Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Not worthy Post by T And T Garage on 06/06/17 at 11:49:16 2631373B3424560 wrote:
Look farther than the end of your nose..... https://www.splcenter.org/20161129/ten-days-after-harassment-and-intimidation-aftermath-election https://www.adl.org/news/press-releases/us-anti-semitic-incidents-spike-86-percent-so-far-in-2017 http://www.newsweek.com/2016/02/12/right-wing-extremists-militants-bigger-threat-america-isis-jihadists-422743.html http://www.alternet.org/tea-party-and-right/10-worst-terror-attacks-extreme-christians-and-far-right-white-men http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/06/18/white_extremist_murders_killed_at_least_60_in_u_s_since_1995.html?cq_ck=1486485587473 http://www.salon.com/2015/04/07/6_modern_day_christian_terrorist_groups_our_media_conveniently_ignores_partner/ |
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Title: Re: Not worthy Post by pg on 06/06/17 at 12:36:44 160807060B160D10620 wrote:
Yes their are right wing extremists, I don't dispute that. They do not kill in order to propagate Christianity, the do not kill in Jesus name. In nearly every attack their were reports of these people yelling "allah this, allah." 900+ attacks in 46 countries this year, their is no comparison whatsoever. Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Not worthy Post by oldNslow on 06/06/17 at 12:41:09 7D636C6D607D667B090 wrote:
Please explain how, in your mind, anything that some supposedly Muslim sect or other, is doing, once did, or might do in the future, somehow justifies or excuses what Christian extremists are doing right now, in the name of their religion. And that criticising them. or their enablers, for their actions is somehow bigotry? See what I did there????[/quote] Yes. You just took your logical inconsistency to the next level. Right up to utter nonsense |
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Title: Re: Not worthy Post by T And T Garage on 06/06/17 at 12:45:18 6B5554584A5657390 wrote:
Please explain how, in your mind, anything that some supposedly Muslim sect or other, is doing, once did, or might do in the future, somehow justifies or excuses what Christian extremists are doing right now, in the name of their religion. And that criticising them. or their enablers, for their actions is somehow bigotry? See what I did there????[/quote] Yes. You just took your logical inconsistency to the next level. Right up to utter nonsense [/quote] LMAO!!! How is that ANY DIFFERENT than what you wrote???? C'mon... just own the fact that you're a bigot towards the Muslim faith and move on already! SMH |
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Title: Re: Not worthy Post by T And T Garage on 06/06/17 at 12:52:07 554244484757250 wrote:
Yes their are right wing extremists, I don't dispute that. They do not kill in order to propagate Christianity, the do not kill in Jesus name. In nearly every attack their were reports of these people yelling "allah this, allah." 900+ attacks in 46 countries this year, their is no comparison whatsoever. Best regards,[/quote] You really need to learn what "terrorism" means. These cowards USE that to justify their actions. Just like the right wing morons justify their actions because of some twisted view of reality. It's NO DIFFERENT. They could scream "hoochie momma!!" and it would have the same connection to Islam. Just look at the condemnation of the Muslim faith in these attacks. In EVERY SINGLE INSTANCE the Muslim leaders have come forward to speak against the use of terror. It's no more a "Muslim thing" than timothy mcveigh was a "Christian thing" or a "conservative thing". |
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Title: Re: Not worthy Post by oldNslow on 06/06/17 at 13:14:32 Quote:
Again, with the name calling. I am quite possibly one of the least bigoted people you will ever meet. However I refuse to deny what I see happening right in front of me for fear of being called names, Especially names that have evolved into weapons by the pc cohort among us. And as an aside. You seem to have a problem with Christians. Not a whiff of bigotry there though. |
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Title: Re: Not worthy Post by T And T Garage on 06/06/17 at 13:19:31 437D7C70627E7F110 wrote:
I was raised Christian. I went through both the RCIA program of the Catholic Church and the adult education of the Presbyterian Church. I'm well aware of the teachings of Christ and what it means to be a Christian. I have no bias at all - I simply show that it's not about religion. What part of that can't you comprehend?? Read my statement above about how these cowards hide behind religion. Sheesh! |
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Title: Re: Not worthy Post by verslagen1 on 06/06/17 at 14:07:40 485659585548534E3C0 wrote:
Yes their are right wing extremists, I don't dispute that. They do not kill in order to propagate Christianity, the do not kill in Jesus name. In nearly every attack their were reports of these people yelling "allah this, allah." 900+ attacks in 46 countries this year, their is no comparison whatsoever. Best regards,[/quote] You really need to learn what "terrorism" means. These cowards USE that to justify their actions. Just like the right wing morons justify their actions because of some twisted view of reality. It's NO DIFFERENT. They could scream "hoochie momma!!" and it would have the same connection to Islam. Just look at the condemnation of the Muslim faith in these attacks. In EVERY SINGLE INSTANCE the Muslim leaders have come forward to speak against the use of terror. It's no more a "Muslim thing" than timothy mcveigh was a "Christian thing" or a "conservative thing".[/quote] This "terrorism" is merely a continuation of what they would do in their own Muslim dominated country. Where other faiths are outlawed and not tolerated. And since it is sheria law, is religious in nature. |
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Title: Re: Not worthy Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/06/17 at 14:16:05 I KNEW indisputable facts didn't matter. Plunging a knife into an infidel while screaming This is for Allah Means NOTHING! Really? |
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Title: Re: Not worthy Post by T And T Garage on 06/06/17 at 15:16:37 627D7B7C61665767576F7D713A080 wrote:
Well then, I guess every right wing extremist that blows up an abortion clinic or a federal building is a perfect example of a republican huh? |
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Title: Re: Not worthy Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/06/17 at 16:47:48 Would it kill you to be reasonable? How far back are you going for an example Look at What is HAPPENING. It's STUPID to bring people into America when they HATE THE INFIDEL, YIPPEE for You! It's not EVERY SINGLE ONE, so you can pretend that since only SOME OF THEM will kill, rape, destroy, then you've only done good.. Phhht! They don't CARE about you or your PC bullshit. In fact, they Hate you all the more for your gutless inability to see that you need to defend your society. Put a sign in your yard and let some move in. It's not gonna Cost you anything, right? Who believes the Refugees, people who have been uprooted, against their will, lives destroyed, without money or a Desire to Be in America, will become Americans,, with the desires of living peacefully in America, under American law, ? These animals KILL their own DAUGHTERS and Call it an Honor Killing and YOU WANT to import That! That's STUPID. |
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Title: Re: Not worthy Post by T And T Garage on 06/06/17 at 19:50:02 Animals? All of them, huh? Sad.... You know nothing of Islam. The ignorance of your statements tells us all where you stand. Give it up - you're out of your league. |
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Title: Re: Not worthy Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/06/17 at 20:08:56 If it kills its own daughter, it's an animal. I covered It's not all It's tiresome that you cling to such a thin veil. |
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Title: Re: Not worthy Post by T And T Garage on 06/07/17 at 05:52:01 6F7076716C6B5A6A5A62707C37050 wrote:
How many Christian "faith healers" have subjected children to horrible, painful deaths because all they do is pray and not use modern medicine? Let's talk about abuse, huh? Yeah, bigots are tiresome |
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Title: Re: Not worthy Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/07/17 at 06:00:33 That you can equate hoping for a miracle that never comes with murdering your daughter because she did something outside of a rule is astonishingly illuminating of just how twisted you are. |
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Title: Re: Not worthy Post by T And T Garage on 06/07/17 at 08:14:27 47585E5944437242724A58541F2D0 wrote:
Abuse is abuse - sad you can't see that..... |
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Title: Re: Not worthy Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/07/17 at 19:46:15 Wow..that's frikking insane. Equate begging God to perform a miracle and Save your Loved One with MURDERING YOUR LOVED ONE, Not Sad you're so confused, it's Terrifying that you can vote. |
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Title: Re: Not worthy Post by T And T Garage on 06/08/17 at 05:29:10 253A3C3B2621102010283A367D4F0 wrote:
Wow, that's funny, I was thinking the same thing about you! |
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Title: Re: Not worthy Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/08/17 at 06:40:40 You claim to NOT be a lefty, but the inability to discern such obvious differences keeps you far from being conservative. You really don't see the difference between shoving a knife in someone's chest and praying for God to heal them? |
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Title: Re: Not worthy Post by T And T Garage on 06/08/17 at 08:00:55 4F5056514C4B7A4A7A42505C17250 wrote:
Death is death ain't it? You sit by and watch your kid die a painful death from cancer is no different than shoving a knife in his/her chest. In fact, letting a child suffer is worse.. What about that can't you understand???? |
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Title: Re: Not worthy Post by MnSpring on 06/08/17 at 19:20:06 Their is a tremendous amount of anguish, In watching a person, DIE. Just Can’t imagine, a parent, watching a child DIE, after doing everything they can. (Never been, Their) That is QUITE Different, than, Purposefully KILLING, a Child, for a some, Convenient, reason. (Or a Wife, or a Gay person, or someone who is Not of YOUR Religion) (For the underwear in a bunch people) The words, “Done Everything They Can Do” Include: Going to the Doctor. and ALSO Includes: Believing in their, CHOSEN, religion, (Very few go that far, they will do everything they can, to save that child, including, LEAVING, the Religion, they so firmly believe in) So I guess, with the thoughts of some here. I need to go the the ’Senior Living’ place. And . . . . . . . . After all, Killing: ‘What Does It Matter” |
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