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Message started by raydawg on 06/09/17 at 07:37:39

Title: Folks...... it's broke.
Post by raydawg on 06/09/17 at 07:37:39

This exemplifies just how broken.....
When we worry about perception more than reality.
What ever happyto the goal of trying to be impeccable of speak and actions?
When has lowering our standards made it ok, as long as we get what we want?

One can hope folks are coming to realize how much a charade has been used on them, only to further the riches and power of those who control the stories......

During a Senate Intel hearing Thursday, former FBI director James Comey revealed that during the 2016 election, then-Attorney General Loretta Lynch ordered him to downplay the investigation into Hillary Clinton by calling it a "matter" instead of a criminal investigation. During this segment of questioning from Oklahoma Republican James Lankford, Comey also reveals important evidence about his interactions with President Trump, Attorney General Lynch, and the Clinton campaign:

FLASHBACK, May 3, 2017: Comey: Loretta Lynch's Tarmac Meeting With Bill Clinton Forced Me To Go Public About Clinton Investigation

SEN. JAMES LANKFORD (R-OK): You mentioned before some news stories and news accounts, without having to go into the specific times... have there been news accounts about the Russia investigation, about 'collusion,' about this whole event, or accusations, that as you read the story, you were stunned about how wrong they got the facts?

JAMES COMEY: Yes, there have been many, many stories reportedly based on classified information about a lot of stuff, but specifically about Russia, that are just dead wrong.

LANKFORD: I was interested in your comment that if there were some satellite associates of his that did something wrong, it would be good to find that out. That the president seemed to talk to you specifically on March 30 and said he is frustrated that the word is not getting out that I am not under investigation, but if there are people that are in my circle that are, let's finish the investigation. Is that how you took it as well?

COMEY: Yes, sir. Yes.

LANKFORD: And then you made a comment earlier about the Attorney General, previous AG [Lynch] asking you about the investigation on the Clinton emails, saying that you were asked not to call it an 'Investigation' anymore, but to call it a 'Matter.' And you said that confused you. Can you give us additional details on that?

COMEY: Well, it concerned me, because we were at the point where we refused to confirm the existence of an investigation --as we usually do-- for months,. And it was getting to a place where that looked silly, because the campaigns were talking about interacting with the FBI in the course of our work.

The Clinton campaign at the time was using all kinds of euphemisms, 'security review,' 'matter.' Things like that.

For what was going on. We were getting to a place where the Attorney General and I were going to have to testify and talk publicly about it, and I wanted to know if she would authorize us to confirm we had an investigation. And she said yes, but don't call it that, call it a 'Matter.' And I said why would I do that? And [Lynch] said just call it a 'Matter.'

And again, you look back in hindsight, should I have resisted more? I just said this wasn't a hill worth dying on, so I said, okay, the press is going to completely ignore it, and that is what happened. When I said we opened a matter, they all reported the FBI had an investigation open. And that concerned me because the language tracked the way the campaign was talking about the FBI's work, and that is concerning... It gave the impression that the Attorney General was looking to align the way we talked about our work with the way a political campaign was describing the same activity, which was inaccurate. We had a criminal investigation open... And so that gave me a queasy feeling.


Title: Re: Folks...... it's broke.
Post by raydawg on 06/09/17 at 07:39:13

Pay close attention to the last lines....

Title: Re: Folks...... it's broke.
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/09/17 at 10:11:07

You seem to think facts will affect their opinions.

Title: Re: Folks...... it's broke.
Post by T And T Garage on 06/09/17 at 10:33:39

What's the point of this post?

Is it that Lynch asked Comey to call it a "matter" instead of an "investigation"?

The full context (which I know is tough for some to grasp) is that in the end, the press called it an investigation anyway.

Whatever was said or not said by lynch is now, obviously, irrelevant.  Asking to change a word in a statement is a little less of an issue than having a sitting president clearing a room and telling you that "he hopes" you can end an investigation.

Title: Re: Folks...... it's broke.
Post by verslagen1 on 06/09/17 at 11:32:49


574946474A574C51230 wrote:
What's the point of this post?


Meerly another demonstration of your one eyed interpretation of the facts.

Title: Re: Folks...... it's broke.
Post by T And T Garage on 06/09/17 at 11:39:53


273423223D3036343F60510 wrote:
[quote author=574946474A574C51230 link=1497019059/0#3 date=1497029619]What's the point of this post?


Meerly another demonstration of your one eyed interpretation of the facts.[/quote]

Really?  How is asking the relevance of the post and then backing up my question "one eyed"?

I look forward to your explanation..

Title: Re: Folks...... it's broke.
Post by verslagen1 on 06/09/17 at 12:47:05


342A252429342F32400 wrote:
[quote author=273423223D3036343F60510 link=1497019059/0#4 date=1497033169][quote author=574946474A574C51230 link=1497019059/0#3 date=1497029619]What's the point of this post?
Is it that Lynch asked Comey to call it a "matter" instead of an "investigation"?

The full context (which I know is tough for some to grasp) is that in the end, the press called it an investigation anyway.

Whatever was said or not said by lynch is now, obviously, irrelevant.  Asking to change a word in a statement is a little less of an issue than having a sitting president clearing a room and telling you that "he hopes" you can end an investigation.


Meerly another demonstration of your one eyed interpretation of the facts.[/quote]

Really?  How is asking the relevance of the post and then backing up my question "one eyed"?

I look forward to your explanation..[/quote]

Really? is the answer obvious to everyone but you?

Title: Re: Folks...... it's broke.
Post by T And T Garage on 06/09/17 at 12:57:12


786B7C7D626F696B603F0E0 wrote:
[quote author=342A252429342F32400 link=1497019059/0#5 date=1497033593][quote author=273423223D3036343F60510 link=1497019059/0#4 date=1497033169][quote author=574946474A574C51230 link=1497019059/0#3 date=1497029619]What's the point of this post?
Is it that Lynch asked Comey to call it a "matter" instead of an "investigation"?

The full context (which I know is tough for some to grasp) is that in the end, the press called it an investigation anyway.

Whatever was said or not said by lynch is now, obviously, irrelevant.  Asking to change a word in a statement is a little less of an issue than having a sitting president clearing a room and telling you that "he hopes" you can end an investigation.


Meerly another demonstration of your one eyed interpretation of the facts.[/quote]

Really?  How is asking the relevance of the post and then backing up my question "one eyed"?

I look forward to your explanation..[/quote]

Really? is the answer obvious to everyone but you?[/quote]

Apparently so - please - enlighten me.....

Title: Re: Folks...... it's broke.
Post by verslagen1 on 06/09/17 at 13:04:10


657B747578657E63110 wrote:
[quote author=786B7C7D626F696B603F0E0 link=1497019059/0#6 date=1497037625][quote author=342A252429342F32400 link=1497019059/0#5 date=1497033593][quote author=273423223D3036343F60510 link=1497019059/0#4 date=1497033169][quote author=574946474A574C51230 link=1497019059/0#3 date=1497029619]What's the point of this post?
Is it that Lynch asked Comey to call it a "matter" instead of an "investigation"?

The full context (which I know is tough for some to grasp) is that in the end, the press called it an investigation anyway.

Whatever was said or not said by lynch is now, obviously, irrelevant.  Asking to change a word in a statement is a little less of an issue than having a sitting president clearing a room and telling you that "he hopes" you can end an investigation.


Meerly another demonstration of your one eyed interpretation of the facts.[/quote]

Really?  How is asking the relevance of the post and then backing up my question "one eyed"?

I look forward to your explanation..[/quote]

Really? is the answer obvious to everyone but you?[/quote]

Apparently so - please - enlighten me.....[/quote]

As you're so found of saying... do your own homework.
pry open that right eye... just a little bit.

Title: Re: Folks...... it's broke.
Post by Serowbot on 06/09/17 at 14:11:19

Pub's had an awful lot of questions about an investigation that ended over a year ago...
Not so much the issue at hand...

A lot of the pertinent questions about Trump and Russia were answered,..."I can't comment on that in an open session"...
If Comey can't say it in open session,... the answer has to be yes...
... a no,... would be answerable in open session...
This does not bode well for Trump and the Trumpetes...

Title: Re: Folks...... it's broke.
Post by T And T Garage on 06/09/17 at 14:46:35


7A697E7F606D6B69623D0C0 wrote:
[quote author=657B747578657E63110 link=1497019059/0#7 date=1497038232][quote author=786B7C7D626F696B603F0E0 link=1497019059/0#6 date=1497037625][quote author=342A252429342F32400 link=1497019059/0#5 date=1497033593][quote author=273423223D3036343F60510 link=1497019059/0#4 date=1497033169][quote author=574946474A574C51230 link=1497019059/0#3 date=1497029619]What's the point of this post?
Is it that Lynch asked Comey to call it a "matter" instead of an "investigation"?

The full context (which I know is tough for some to grasp) is that in the end, the press called it an investigation anyway.

Whatever was said or not said by lynch is now, obviously, irrelevant.  Asking to change a word in a statement is a little less of an issue than having a sitting president clearing a room and telling you that "he hopes" you can end an investigation.


Meerly another demonstration of your one eyed interpretation of the facts.[/quote]

Really?  How is asking the relevance of the post and then backing up my question "one eyed"?

I look forward to your explanation..[/quote]

Really? is the answer obvious to everyone but you?[/quote]

Apparently so - please - enlighten me.....[/quote]

As you're so found of saying... do your own homework.
pry open that right eye... just a little bit.
[/quote]

Um YOU called me "one eyed".  It's your accusation...

So, be a man and stand behind it.

Or is this just another cowardice name-calling session, hmm?

Title: Re: Folks...... it's broke.
Post by verslagen1 on 06/09/17 at 15:16:39


Quote:
What's the point of this post?
Is it that Lynch asked Comey to call it a "matter" instead of an "investigation"?

You don't think that shows intent? collusion with hrc?


Quote:
The full context (which I know is tough for some to grasp) is that in the end, the press called it an investigation anyway.

or because everyone knew what it was... made it not?


Quote:
Whatever was said or not said by lynch is now, obviously, irrelevant.
 
I don't think there's a deadline on this crime.


Quote:
Asking to change a word in a statement is a little less of an issue than having a sitting president clearing a room and telling you that "he hopes" you can end an investigation.

Hope is not the same as will or must.  And even though Comey said he thought so, he still didn't end the investigation... did he?

Is that clear one eye?  do I got to break it down further?

Title: Re: Folks...... it's broke.
Post by T And T Garage on 06/09/17 at 16:42:23


213225243B3630323966570 wrote:

Quote:
What's the point of this post?
Is it that Lynch asked Comey to call it a "matter" instead of an "investigation"?

You don't think that shows intent? collusion with hrc?

[quote]The full context (which I know is tough for some to grasp) is that in the end, the press called it an investigation anyway.

or because everyone knew what it was... made it not?

Moot.... moooooooot.


Quote:
Whatever was said or not said by lynch is now, obviously, irrelevant.
 
I don't think there's a deadline on this crime.

Yeah, there kind of is... you see... THERE WAS NO CRIME.


Quote:
Asking to change a word in a statement is a little less of an issue than having a sitting president clearing a room and telling you that "he hopes" you can end an investigation.

Hope is not the same as will or must.  And even though Comey said he thought so, he still didn't end the investigation... did he?

LMAO - yeah, because HE GOT FIRED!!!

Is that clear one eye?  do I got to break it down further?[/quote]

Well web - no - because it's NOT one eyed.  Both my eyes are open and can see what a fool the likes of you tweety defenders are.

He's a pathetic excuse of a president and will do more harm than good.  At this time in Obama's presidency, fox news was talking about what he was putting on his hot dog!

Have fun this weekend defending this "wonderful" president!

LMAO!!

Title: Re: Folks...... it's broke.
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/09/17 at 20:12:16

You watched Clinton board her plane.
You should but don't know that comey wasn't the one to decide if Hillary would be indicted.
Only a one eyed person can pretend that she shouldn't be indicted.
Clinton , Clinton and Lynch, names that belong on indictments.

Title: Re: Folks...... it's broke.
Post by pg on 06/09/17 at 20:33:51

http://dailycaller.com/2017/06/09/bush-ag-lynch-betrayal-made-doj-an-arm-of-the-clinton-campaign/

The former attorney general under George W. Bush said Loretta Lynch made the Department of Justice “an arm of the Clinton campaign” by instructing then-FBI Director James Comey to mislead the public about the Clinton email investigation  .“That is a betrayal of the department and of its independence to illustrate that clearly that the attorney general was essentially in the tank for Secretary Clinton.”

Best regards,

Title: Re: Folks...... it's broke.
Post by raydawg on 06/10/17 at 09:08:20


5345524F57424F54200 wrote:
Pub's had an awful lot of questions about an investigation that ended over a year ago...
Not so much the issue at hand...

A lot of the pertinent questions about Trump and Russia were answered,..."I can't comment on that in an open session"...
If Comey can't say it in open session,... the answer has to be yes...
... a no,... would be answerable in open session...
This does not bode well for Trump and the Trumpetes...


You have really slipped off the deep end.....
Your hate has poisoned your mind, and it has blinded you to your own fate.  Pretty sad you don't see how it impacts your life...

You reach back many years to raise a disgusting comment Trump made, and wrap it in the cloak of revelant to today.
Yet find those who ask questions about similar actions of Comey re: Clinton and Lynch, etc, as old news and dismiss it.

Dismiss our laws, and trample whatever truth you need, and hang your faith on rumor and what wasn't said, as revealing....
Comey had no problem leaking to the New York Times.

If he had more on Trump, he has already testified he felt obligated to get the truth out, uh, except not so much when it was Loretta Lynch, etc.....
He has already showed he has no respect for "investigations", this part of the testimony that you hold as glaring truth is nothing more than Comey enjoying keeping the cloud hanging over a Trumps head.....

Sad, as it is causing much rift, but it sure sells coverage and creates wealth to those who entities that profit off of this insanity.

Title: Re: Folks...... it's broke.
Post by Serowbot on 06/10/17 at 09:12:57

Look inward my friend...

Title: Re: Folks...... it's broke.
Post by raydawg on 06/10/17 at 13:11:40


1305120F17020F14600 wrote:
Look inward my friend...


Goodness Bot, I explain myself, you retreat to your one liners.....
The very same guy who said a person wouldn't be able to tell who won.

My bad, I thought you might want to engage.
Wait until more deplorable react in the future, then deny, etc.
Even tho as I showed in a previous post how the democrats are reaching out to fly over country, seems you exhibit the truth of their close mindedness.

Title: Re: Folks...... it's broke.
Post by old.indian on 06/10/17 at 14:44:28

The whole thing is such a cesspool of political corruption that I refuse to believe one word ANYONE in Washington has to say....

Title: Re: Folks...... it's broke.
Post by Trippah on 06/10/17 at 15:02:06

This is why we, as Americans, should never elect a President and an majority in th e senate of the same party.  It will never change, power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. ;)

Title: Re: Folks...... it's broke.
Post by raydawg on 06/10/17 at 16:45:38


694F544D4D5C553D0 wrote:
This is why we, as Americans, should never elect a President and an majority in th e senate of the same party.  It will never change, power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. ;)


You are so right, and the judicial branch is just an extension of power, not law, it seems  :-[

When you have the president asking for a pledge, or the attorney general directing the FBI to script the news, etc, to me it shows they don't give a rats arse about the rules they hold the commoners to....
Might as well be a king or dictator, the results are the same.

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