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Title: We crashed our boat... Post by Serowbot on 06/17/17 at 13:16:11 We crashed our boat... while making a show of force... Embarrassing... :-[ Are we trying to make Kim Jong laugh too hard to fight back?... ;D |
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Title: Re: We crashed our boat... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/17/17 at 13:28:35 Well, OBVIOUSLY we need to spend more money on the military.. The reports don't just come out and say it, our idiot got T-Boned by a container ship. Everybody knows how sneaky those things are. Yes, it was late night, but seriously, our navy can't detect and avoid such a huge ship? |
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Title: Re: We crashed our boat... Post by MnSpring on 06/17/17 at 16:23:47 7264736E76636E75010 wrote:
First I heard of it. So Looked a dozen ’news’, sites. First, The Navy ship, did not hit the container ship. The Container Ship, HIT, the Navy Ship. (Contrary to many headlines, which are LIES when they say the Navy ship hit …) Next, (Stevie Wonder can see this), The Navy Ship was dead in the water, or moving, V E R Y, slowly. As can be clearly seen by the photos of the damage. On the Navy ship AND, the Container ship. Their is no evidence, (by photos), of the Navy ship moving. What was Not answered, (Perhaps never be). Who, was in control of the Container Ship? And What, are the, ‘Beliefs’, of that person? Was it a freak Accident, or was it on Purpose? What was the course of the Container ship ? (They BOTH have radar) Did the Container ship, ’steer’ towards the Navy ship? Was the Navy ship in a normal, ‘Lane’, if the container ship was on, ‘Auto’, and had no one at the helm, or on radar? Their are SO Many Question, (at this time) Totally Un-answered ! WHAT, Was the Navy ship, to BLOW, the Container ship out of the water? (WOW, would BOT go nuts on that, as it is, he is nuts for, ‘Assuming things Not In Evidence’). Is the Navy telling, all that happened up to that point? (Most Probably Not, Very much un like the Last POTUS, who would say: “Next Tuesday, at 2:37 Your Time, the USA is going to bomb area, X/Y”) As to the under waterline damage, to the Navy ship, Understand how, sea traveling ships are designed for the last 40+ years. Than think of the shape of a fish, that often swims close to the surface? (Porpoise/Dolphin) Also the Container ship, was 3-4 LARGER, (in Tonnage), than the Navy ship. So to stop, or slow down, turn, takes, 3-4 times LONGER. So Many questions yet un answered. Especially, about the Container Ship. And NOT, a time to say: “…We crashed our boat… while making a show of force……” It was NOT, ‘WE’ that crashed a boat, it was someone else, that, RAMMED, our boat! Awaiting answers. |
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Title: Re: We crashed our boat... Post by Trippah on 06/17/17 at 16:51:21 Gulf of Tonkin, Gulf of Tonkin, If we say it often enough we can have our next war. ;D ;D ;D ;D Oh wait, that was three wars ago. How time flies. |
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Title: Re: We crashed our boat... Post by MnSpring on 06/17/17 at 17:18:57 No, it was 4. BUT NEVER MIND, Getting all the, FACTS, First. They will just get in the way of your opinion. |
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Title: Re: We crashed our boat... Post by MnSpring on 06/17/17 at 17:46:36 45637861617079110 wrote:
Oh, would that be like, Sarah Brady saying, (and that saying), be said, Over and Over, and Over, and Over, and Over, and Over, and Over, and Over and Over, etc. Which was NOT TRUE, 36 years ago, and is Less True today. Those, ‘Pesky’, “FACTS”, that just keep getting in the way ! |
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Title: Re: We crashed our boat... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/17/17 at 18:12:25 It's obvious we got T-Boned. And the Moving very slowly or not at all idea looks right. Getting snuck upon by a cargo ship isn't impressive. |
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Title: Re: We crashed our boat... Post by verslagen1 on 06/19/17 at 07:56:59 These are spy stealth ships designed to infiltrate korean waters. This was a test of their secondary mission to sink the korean navy. |
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Title: Re: We crashed our boat... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/19/17 at 08:24:07 Ahh, so it was a Drill! And of course the Japanese would Gladly bend a ship up if it means they will be able to protect themselves militarily by dispatching a flotilla of stealth container ships into the North Korean waters and just crush their military ships by sneaking up on them. Brilliant! You figured that out.. Dang, what's the matter with me that I didn't catch that? |
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Title: Re: We crashed our boat... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/19/17 at 08:25:48 The path of the container ship is intriguing. They supposedly did a u turn. |
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Title: Re: We crashed our boat... Post by Trippah on 06/19/17 at 08:32:09 Rumor has it Gen Flynn was on the container ship leading the chant "Ram her, Ram her." ;D ;D ;D HRC was providing defensive security. ;) They did the U turn so we cold say U did it. :-[ 3 or 4, hard to tell. Liberation of Kuwait, Iraq (topple Saddam) Afghanistan, Syria. Did I miss any, you are right MN its 4 not 3 (although since at least 2 of them are ongoing can we count them?) |
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Title: Re: We crashed our boat... Post by Trippah on 06/19/17 at 16:47:45 Can U believe it, the container ship didn't make the U turn until after it hit the US ship, this is getting bizarre. |
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Title: Re: We crashed our boat... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/19/17 at 17:10:34 And the details slowly come out... Such intrigue. |
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Title: Re: We crashed our boat... Post by Trippah on 06/19/17 at 19:29:03 Could it be that our government is preparing to not tell the truth to us? |
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Title: Re: We crashed our boat... Post by oldNslow on 06/19/17 at 19:29:33 As an ex US Navy sailor, who has spent time at sea, and stood bridge watches, both during the day and at night, in all kinds of weather, my only comment about all the preceding posts in this thread, is that not a single one of you guys has the faintest idea WTF you are talking about. https://warontherocks.com/2017/06/how-could-this-happen-the-fitzgerald-the-u-s-navy-and-collisions-at-sea/ This was a horrible, tragic accident. An accident that killed seven young american sailors in a way that few people could even imagine, Trapped, probably in the dark, waked from sleep in a metal compartment rapidly filling with seawater until they drowned. |
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Title: Re: We crashed our boat... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/19/17 at 20:12:42 I know I know squat. And I have spent the moment in the trapped and water coming in sailors shoes. I hope they were knocked out and never knew what a nightmare they were trapped in. I'm asking questions and hoping someone has a clue. Some of the comments attached to the article I linked are, to the untrained eye, making good points by ex military personnel. |
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Title: Re: We crashed our boat... Post by oldNslow on 06/23/17 at 08:00:40 730 feet long, 30 feet wide,38.730 horsepower, and nobody was driving. Nice! Pretty likely that everyone on board was asleep. http://freebeacon.com/national-security/freighter-autopilot-hit-us-destroyer/ "Private naval analyst Steffan Watkins said the course data indicates the ship was running on autopilot. "The ACX Crystal powered out of the deviation it performed at 1:30, which was likely the impact with the USS Fitzgerald, pushing it off course while trying to free itself from being hung on the bow below the waterline," Watkins told the Free Beacon. The ship then continued to sail on for another 15 minutes, increasing speed before eventually reducing speed and turning around. "This shows the autopilot was engaged because nobody would power out of an accident with another ship and keep sailing back on course. It’s unthinkable," he added. Watkins said the fact that the merchant ship hit something and did not radio the coast guard for almost 30 minutes also indicates no one was on the bridge at the time of the collision. It still remains to be seen why the Fitzgerald failed to see this coming, but seriously, WTF. |
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Title: Re: We crashed our boat... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/23/17 at 09:16:51 Cargo ship, in the Wrong, okay, right or wrong, bad things happened, but all that aside, if it was nothing but a scratch in the paint on the Fitz, the question in my mind is How does a cargo ship sneak up on and crash into a MILITARY VESSEL? Now, anyone Else's military vessel, I would accept that, because They are Not Number ONE. We are. We are Exceptional and our military has the Best equipment and manpower money can buy, and a ship that could haul every person and their car in the county Snuck up and smashed our ship? Somebody got some Splainin to do. I'm sure That answer will be slipped into an envelope with Top Secret, Nashunul Skuretee on it. |
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Title: Re: We crashed our boat... Post by oldNslow on 06/23/17 at 09:56:07 Quote:
Not likely IMO. Too many other countries and agencies involved in the investigation. Even if you accept that the US, or the US Navy, has some mysterious,nefarious, reason for a cover-up of some kind, which I don't, there is no way that the real story isn't going to come out anyway. Believe me, whomever is on the hook for the liability insurance for the container ship company is going to find out exactly what the f*ck happened and why . I'm quite sure that folks on the Fitzgerald f*cked up too, but nothing I've seen or read so far leads me to believe that this was anything but an accident. And the primary culpability lies with the crew of the container ship. No vessel is supposed to be underway, ever,autopilot notwithstanding, without qualified human watchstanders on the bridge and elsewhere, |
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Title: Re: We crashed our boat... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/23/17 at 10:30:29 I'm perfectly confident the cargo ship is at fault. I never said anything about some nefarious activities. I'm aware of events that would embarrass, and the answers were classified. I didn't say there was a True Reason for slipping the answers in an envelope. Just that I won't be surprised if they do. The Hows and Whys of a military vessel getting run Over by a floating warehouse will probably get shoved in the envelope, because the procedures for and equipment used that are intended to avoid that kinda thing just might not be something we want in the paper. Once it obvious that the cargo ship is at fault, no further questions are valid for the insurance company to ask. Wait and see.. |
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Title: Re: We crashed our boat... Post by Trippah on 06/23/17 at 20:02:04 Thanks Old and Slow for the posting. I think we all feel sadness for the loss of life , limb and careers for the sailors and their families. |
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Title: Re: We crashed our boat... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/23/17 at 20:08:56 If they punish the Captain of the Fitzgerald will that announce he is responsible for the lives of his men? I have no clue what comes next. |
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