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Message started by T And T Garage on 06/29/17 at 11:30:56

Title: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem..
Post by T And T Garage on 06/29/17 at 11:30:56

But still... a fundraiser???!!???!!??

In his own hotel????!?!?!?!?!!!

This is record setting.... aren't we all so proud????

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/29/trump-takes-10-million-at-first-re-election-fundraiser.html

Defend this tweety supporters...

Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by old.indian on 06/29/17 at 11:56:37

Well there were the fundraisers for Hillary in the "High rent zip codes" like Park City, Utah etc. that were held behind closed doors at $$$K per plate for chicken-a-la-king....  Not to mention the $500K and $600K "speaking fees".  ::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/29/17 at 12:13:32

I wish he would buy CNN and fire everyone.

Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by T And T Garage on 06/29/17 at 14:09:57


62616923646369646C630D0 wrote:
Well there were the fundraisers for Hillary in the "High rent zip codes" like Park City, Utah etc. that were held behind closed doors at $$$K per plate for chicken-a-la-king....  Not to mention the $500K and $600K "speaking fees".  ::) ::) ::)



You miss the point...

This is the earliest any sitting president HAS EVER had a fundraiser.

And let's not forget WHERE it was held, right??

Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by raydawg on 06/29/17 at 14:47:18

Wow......
This could cut into the available funds Obama needs to jet set with the filthy rich and scandalous folk  ;D

Next.

Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by T And T Garage on 06/29/17 at 14:56:31


3C2F372A2F39294E0 wrote:
Wow......
This could cut into the available funds Obama needs to jet set with the filthy rich and scandalous folk  ;D

Next.



So you're OK with this??? Seriously?  You don't think it's... oh, I dunno - a little extreme?  A little early?  A little conflict of interest holding it in his own hotel????


Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by raydawg on 06/29/17 at 16:00:42


4D535C5D504D564B390 wrote:
[quote author=3C2F372A2F39294E0 link=1498761056/0#4 date=1498772838]Wow......
This could cut into the available funds Obama needs to jet set with the filthy rich and scandalous folk  ;D

Next.



So you're OK with this??? Seriously?  You don't think it's... oh, I dunno - a little extreme?  A little early?  A little conflict of interest holding it in his own hotel????

[/quote]

Sure I do.....

But he didn't create this fn mess, he is just exposing it as never before.

Look, I have stated many, many, MANY times, the guy is a creep, I don't like him as a person, etc.
However, what he is exposing by being an azz, is that azzhoods abound in DC, media, etc....

Other words known as, "The System".

Its getting loud, because the "system" is coming down, and all it elitist aristocrats will be left exposed, but hopefully not nude....
Some (bodies)  would leave a wake of mental illness from the imagine they impart  :-[

Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/29/17 at 16:05:01

Why does WHERE matter?
Don't you think his supporters want to visit his place?
Why do you hate Trump?
Don't say you don't, it's WAY too obvious.

Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by T And T Garage on 06/29/17 at 18:11:21


5D4E564B4E58482F0 wrote:
[quote author=4D535C5D504D564B390 link=1498761056/0#5 date=1498773391][quote author=3C2F372A2F39294E0 link=1498761056/0#4 date=1498772838]Wow......
This could cut into the available funds Obama needs to jet set with the filthy rich and scandalous folk  ;D

Next.



So you're OK with this??? Seriously?  You don't think it's... oh, I dunno - a little extreme?  A little early?  A little conflict of interest holding it in his own hotel????

[/quote]

Sure I do.....

But he didn't create this fn mess, he is just exposing it as never before.

Look, I have stated many, many, MANY times, the guy is a creep, I don't like him as a person, etc.
However, what he is exposing by being an azz, is that azzhoods abound in DC, media, etc....

Other words known as, "The System".

Its getting loud, because the "system" is coming down, and all it elitist aristocrats will be left exposed, but hopefully not nude....
Some (bodies)  would leave a wake of mental illness from the imagine they impart  :-[ [/quote]

Weak sauce....  Then don't ever complain about any other politician that takes advantage of the system then - ever.  It's just the system, right?

Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by T And T Garage on 06/29/17 at 18:18:44


3D2224233E3908380830222E65570 wrote:
Why does WHERE matter?

Gee, I dunno...  because it's his hotel.... hello???  Ever heard of conflict of interest???

Don't you think his supporters want to visit his place?

What the he!! difference does that make??

Why do you hate Trump?

I'm not a fan of pu$$y grabbing hypocrites who were given their wealth by daddy and tweet like a 12 year old girl.

Don't say you don't, it's WAY too obvious.


I would NEVER say that I don't - thanks.

Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by old.indian on 06/29/17 at 20:43:03

Silly Question... But I notice that this is a story carried by CNBC.    :-?   As a part of the NBC "family" I tend to question their objective.   i.e. I have serious doubts regarding their creditability.     :-/    

Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/29/17 at 20:51:26

Explain HOW it's a conflict of interest.

Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by T And T Garage on 06/30/17 at 04:59:49


67646C2661666C616966080 wrote:
Silly Question... But I notice that this is a story carried by CNBC.    :-?   As a part of the NBC "family" I tend to question their objective.   i.e. I have serious doubts regarding their creditability.     :-/    


A fact has no objective.  The fact is, he had a fundraiser.  The fact is, he had it in his own hotel.

There is no spin.  Further, CNBC is no friend to the liberal.

Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by T And T Garage on 06/30/17 at 05:01:27


352A2C2B3631003000382A266D5F0 wrote:
Explain HOW it's a conflict of interest.



LOL - no.  If you can't see it, you're blind.

But for fun - ask yourself this - what if Obama or clinton had owned a hotel and held a fundraiser at it?

Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by pg on 06/30/17 at 05:49:02


233D32333E233825570 wrote:
[quote author=352A2C2B3631003000382A266D5F0 link=1498761056/0#11 date=1498794686]Explain HOW it's a conflict of interest.



LOL - no.  If you can't see it, you're blind.

But for fun - ask yourself this - what if Obama or clinton had owned a hotel and held a fundraiser at it? [/quote]


You did not answer his question.  How is it a conflict of interest?

Best regards,

Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by WebsterMark on 06/30/17 at 06:02:42


160807060B160D10620 wrote:
[quote author=352A2C2B3631003000382A266D5F0 link=1498761056/0#11 date=1498794686]Explain HOW it's a conflict of interest.



LOL - no.  If you can't see it, you're blind.

But for fun - ask yourself this - what if Obama or clinton had owned a hotel and held a fundraiser at it? [/quote]

hypotheticals need to have some basis in reality. Neither Clinton or Obama ever really worked in a significant for-profit business so it's too far out of the imagination to ask what they would have done!

Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/30/17 at 06:24:09

r fun - ask yourself this - what if Obama or clinton had owned a hotel and held a fundraiser at it?

I'm pissed that you ask.
How empty and foolish.
WHO CARES?

It's a VENUE.
The Reason everyone BUT Trump
Wastes money renting a VENUE is

THEY DON'T OWN ONE.

THere IS no
Conflict of interest.

Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by raydawg on 06/30/17 at 06:24:31

Hey, since we is doing for fun, ask yourself if Trump got any special deals on real estate like Hillary or Obama....

You don't see your nekkedness TT, and that is amusing.
Just admit to yourself, what we all see, and be done with the charades  ;D

Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by T And T Garage on 06/30/17 at 07:28:31


203F393E23241525152D3F33784A0 wrote:
r fun - ask yourself this - what if Obama or clinton had owned a hotel and held a fundraiser at it?

I'm pissed that you ask.
How empty and foolish.
WHO CARES?

It's a VENUE.
The Reason everyone BUT Trump
Wastes money renting a VENUE is

THEY DON'T OWN ONE.

THere IS no
Conflict of interest.


Whatever it takes to swallow your hypocrisy pill jog... there, there.... good boy....

Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by T And T Garage on 06/30/17 at 07:31:37


60736B76736575120 wrote:
Hey, since we is doing for fun, ask yourself if Trump got any special deals on real estate like Hillary or Obama....

You don't see your nekkedness TT, and that is amusing.
Just admit to yourself, what we all see, and be done with the charades  ;D


BWAAAHAAHAAHAAHAA!!!!!

Ding ding ding!!!

You've just won the stupid post award!!!

Go look at what tweety paid for a resort home and turned around and sold it for to a KNOWN russian oligarch.

http://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/why-did-a-russian-pay-95m-to-buy-trumps-palm-beach-mansion/

Nice one!!!  You just showed everyone your ignorance and hypocrisy!!!

Congratulations!!  Johnny - tell him what he's won!!!

Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by pg on 06/30/17 at 07:39:06

The transaction was in 2008....   Wow, a real estate guy made money on a house 10 years ago, let's file the articles.....

Best regards,

Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by T And T Garage on 06/30/17 at 07:45:46


2D3A3C303F2F5D0 wrote:
The transaction was in 2008....   Wow, a real estate guy made money on a house 10 years ago, let's file the articles.....

Best regards,


Yeah... go look at where tweety's funds were at that time... how was he doing?

Further, are you that ignorant to the fact that he sold it for a HUGE profit to a russian oligarch???


But yeah, Obama's house purchase in 2005 was.... what??

Here ya go:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/oct/25/obamas-rezko-connection/

LOL - yeah, keep on protecting tweety... see how that works out for ya!

Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by pg on 06/30/17 at 07:52:14


647A757479647F62100 wrote:
... see how that works out for ya!


So far it is pretty wonderful, all in all I'm very pleased!!

Best regards,

Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by MnSpring on 06/30/17 at 07:57:26

Being around Dogs,
Having dogs as, Pets, Hunting Partners,  Competition Trained.

It  Always amazes me,
What some people, Allow, their, ‘PETS’, to do.

While requiring other peoples pets, to keep,  ‘Leads’ on !

Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by T And T Garage on 06/30/17 at 08:09:40


3324222E2131430 wrote:
[quote author=647A757479647F62100 link=1498761056/15#21 date=1498833946]
... see how that works out for ya!


So far it is pretty wonderful, all in all I'm very pleased!!

Best regards,[/quote]


LOL - that makes one!

Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/30/17 at 08:51:12


647A757479647F62100 wrote:
[quote author=203F393E23241525152D3F33784A0 link=1498761056/15#16 date=1498829049]r fun - ask yourself this - what if Obama or clinton had owned a hotel and held a fundraiser at it?

I'm pissed that you ask.
How empty and foolish.
WHO CARES?

It's a VENUE.
The Reason everyone BUT Trump
Wastes money renting a VENUE is

THEY DON'T OWN ONE.

THere IS no
Conflict of interest.


Whatever it takes to swallow your hypocrisy pill jog... there, there.... good boy....[/quote]


Explain it. There is Exactly ZERO conflict of interest.

Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by MnSpring on 06/30/17 at 09:02:16


4156505C5343310 wrote:
The transaction was in 2008....   Wow, a real estate guy made money on a house 10 years ago, let's file the articles..... Best regards,


I would have to go back and look,
But I am Very Sure, that I,
’Sold’, a   GUN,  in 2008,  for  More Money,
than I paid for it, sometime before.

 Someone  Better Call the BATFE   !!!!!!

;D   ;D   ;D   ;D   ;D   ;D   ;D   ;D

Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/30/17 at 09:25:11

a situation in which a person is in a position to derive personal benefit from actions or decisions made in their official capacity:

A fundraiser isn't a secret deal behind closed doors .
If you can explain WHY WHERE it was held matters, then do it. Your innuendo is old, and worn thin. You don't have squat.
You don't think the ethics committee would be all over this if there was any There There?
Why the lefties heads would be exploding everywhere, like yours.

Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by T And T Garage on 06/30/17 at 09:31:50


3B242225383F0E3E0E36242863510 wrote:
a situation in which a person is in a position to derive personal benefit from actions or decisions made in their official capacity:

A fundraiser isn't a secret deal behind closed doors .
If you can explain WHY WHERE it was held matters, then do it. Your innuendo is old, and worn thin. You don't have squat.
You don't think the ethics committee would be all over this if there was any There There?
Why the lefties heads would be exploding everywhere, like yours.


Seriously??

In case you forgot - in order to hold ANY type of meeting at a hotel, you need to PAY for the room(s) where it's held.  DUH......  It'd be pretty easy to see how much that hotel made from the fundraiser.

Why didn't tweety hold it at the Marriott or anywhere else for that matter?

You CAN'T be that blind...


Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by Paraquat on 06/30/17 at 09:31:58

I am the event co-ordinator for monthly meets for my local car club.
I arrange all the meets close to home.

It's not out of disrespect for anyone else. I just don't want to travel far.


--Steve

Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/30/17 at 10:44:18

People who are willing to hand over money might be given rooms or discount. You know all.
Get it investigated.

Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by T And T Garage on 06/30/17 at 10:51:52


3302110212160217630 wrote:
I am the event co-ordinator for monthly meets for my local car club.
I arrange all the meets close to home.

It's not out of disrespect for anyone else. I just don't want to travel far.


--Steve


That's cool - but it's not like there aren't about 900 (sarcasm) hotels in the DC area....  I'm simply pointing out that our president has no shame or rational thought process.  Again, imagine if this had been Obama, and he had ownership of a hotel in DC, and held a fundraiser there... the GOPers would go bananas!

It's just the enormous hypocrisy of the righties.

Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/30/17 at 11:05:34

One eyed..

Where would you want it?
In your Bigly Wonderful five star with golf course or some place in D.C.?
As a donor I'd much rather enjoy the place My President built. Besides, it's His Place. He can get us good deals on rooms and tee times.

What places in D.C.wouldn't screw with Trump supporters?

Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by T And T Garage on 06/30/17 at 11:13:14


514E484F52556454645C4E42093B0 wrote:
One eyed..

Where would you want it?

ANYWHERE else - literally.  What kind of idiot would just blatantly open himself up for that kind of conflict of interest?  (oh wait.. I know that answer).

In your Bigly Wonderful five star with golf course or some place in D.C.?
As a donor I'd much rather enjoy the place My President built. Besides, it's His Place. He can get us good deals on rooms and tee times.

What places in D.C.wouldn't screw with Trump supporters?


LMAO - that says more about tweety's failure than it does about the people of DC.  If he was so darned great, there wouldn't even be that fear.


Yeah, and like I said - if Obama had done this, you'd be juuust fine with it huh?

Please....

Hey, while we're on the subject - how do tweety's vacations thus far stack up to Obama's, huh?

How come no outrage about that, hmmm?

You're all pathetic, apologist hypocrites of the largest scale.

Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by Paraquat on 06/30/17 at 11:14:32

Imagine if it were Obama. And he wanted his way. And you'd be penalized if you didn't comply. Say, a tax.


--Steve

Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by T And T Garage on 06/30/17 at 11:21:07


48796A79696D796C180 wrote:
Imagine if it were Obama. And he wanted his way. And you'd be penalized if you didn't comply. Say, a tax.


--Steve



LOL - yeah... that's funny.... but seriously, do you not see the hypocrisy?

Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by verslagen1 on 06/30/17 at 11:29:03


Quote:
President Obama will return to Los Angeles next week for another round of fundraising, including an event for congressional candidates at the Bel-Air home of Walt Disney Studios chairman Alan Horn and his wife, environmental activist Cindy Horn.



Quote:
President Obama will be headlining the DNC fundraiser on Wednesday. It will be held at the Manhattan home of Kenneth Lerer and his wife, Katherine Sailer.



Quote:
Obama also will attend what is being billed as a performance by a “special guest” at an as-yet undisclosed private home in Pacific Palisades.



Quote:
After landing at LAX around 1 PM, Obama heads over to the home of the Star Wars director and wife Katie McGrath for a $33,400-per-person intimate roundtable event for the Democratic SObama-Hollywood-c__131126053020__131207184450__131212224847__131217180859__140130070536enatorial Campaign


anybody see a pattern here?

so tnt, spell it out, why is it wrong for trump to have a fundraiser at trump tower?

Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/30/17 at 11:30:59

Your polluted lens in your one eyed understanding SEES hypocrisy where none exists and you demand an explanation and justification where none is needed.

No Fear of a community organizer ever actually owning a business and making payroll.


What happened to your butthurt over the conflict of interest?
Couldn't make it stick?

Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by T And T Garage on 06/30/17 at 11:39:50


6F7C6B6A75787E7C7728190 wrote:

Quote:
President Obama will return to Los Angeles next week for another round of fundraising, including an event for congressional candidates at the Bel-Air home of Walt Disney Studios chairman Alan Horn and his wife, environmental activist Cindy Horn.


[quote]President Obama will be headlining the DNC fundraiser on Wednesday. It will be held at the Manhattan home of Kenneth Lerer and his wife, Katherine Sailer.



Quote:
Obama also will attend what is being billed as a performance by a “special guest” at an as-yet undisclosed private home in Pacific Palisades.



Quote:
After landing at LAX around 1 PM, Obama heads over to the home of the Star Wars director and wife Katie McGrath for a $33,400-per-person intimate roundtable event for the Democratic SObama-Hollywood-c__131126053020__131207184450__131212224847__131217180859__140130070536enatorial Campaign


anybody see a pattern here?

so tnt, spell it out, why is it wrong for trump to have a fundraiser at trump tower?[/quote]

Hmmm...are you saying that Obama owned those homes??  Did he somehow make money by having the fundraisers held there??

If you're gonna try and zing me - you gotta do better than that....LOL

But nice try.

You obviously don't have a clue what "conflict of interest" is....

Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by T And T Garage on 06/30/17 at 11:48:22


6C7375726F6859695961737F34060 wrote:
Your polluted lens in your one eyed understanding SEES hypocrisy where none exists and you demand an explanation and justification where none is needed.

No Fear of a community organizer ever actually owning a business and making payroll.

At least he had experience working for the public and was an elected official before becoming president.

What happened to your butthurt over the conflict of interest?
Couldn't make it stick?


I think it stands pretty well.  You see jog - when you own a business - let's say a hotel - and then you want to plan an event for... oh.. I dunno - the re-election campaign you're going to run 3 years from now.  Any normal person would say - nah, we shouldn't do it at my hotel, since I'm the president, that might show favoritism and bias, not to mention no faith in the other hotels (and their owners) in town that I now represent....

But tweety ain't normal - is he?  The righties just LOVE his trips to maralago and and continued use of his hotel....  isn't that so great??!?!

Drink it in... lap it up... tweety loves to bathe in the right's hypocrisy....

Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/30/17 at 13:46:51

You're broken.

Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by pg on 06/30/17 at 14:05:01


352B242528352E33410 wrote:
 The righties just LOVE his trips to maralago and and continued use of his hotel....  isn't that so great??!?!


To me this is not an issue. Regardless, it alleviate multiple security concerns having first hand knowledge of the property and staff.  Get over it, it is a hotel....   ::)

Best regards,

Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by verslagen1 on 06/30/17 at 14:33:39


203E31303D203B26540 wrote:
[quote author=6F7C6B6A75787E7C7728190 link=1498761056/30#36 date=1498847343]
Quote:
President Obama will return to Los Angeles next week for another round of fundraising, including an event for congressional candidates at the Bel-Air home of Walt Disney Studios chairman Alan Horn and his wife, environmental activist Cindy Horn.


[quote]President Obama will be headlining the DNC fundraiser on Wednesday. It will be held at the Manhattan home of Kenneth Lerer and his wife, Katherine Sailer.



Quote:
Obama also will attend what is being billed as a performance by a “special guest” at an as-yet undisclosed private home in Pacific Palisades.



Quote:
After landing at LAX around 1 PM, Obama heads over to the home of the Star Wars director and wife Katie McGrath for a $33,400-per-person intimate roundtable event for the Democratic SObama-Hollywood-c__131126053020__131207184450__131212224847__131217180859__140130070536enatorial Campaign


anybody see a pattern here?

so tnt, spell it out, why is it wrong for trump to have a fundraiser at trump tower?[/quote]

Hmmm...are you saying that Obama owned those homes??  Did he somehow make money by having the fundraisers held there??

If you're gonna try and zing me - you gotta do better than that....LOL

But nice try.

You obviously don't have a clue what "conflict of interest" is....
[/quote]

Nice dodge, spell it or eat it.

Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/30/17 at 14:47:36

a situation in which a person is in a position to derive personal benefit from actions or decisions made in their official capacity:

A SUUHWING
AND a Miss..

Either explain WHY or shut up.

Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by Serowbot on 06/30/17 at 15:06:10

The wrong is,... Trump is billing his own Party for the rental space...
Every rally makes him money personally...
He is using his power of office for personal profit...
That's why Presidents divest themselves of investments that might be suspect... but, Trump has not...

Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/30/17 at 15:09:50

Where is your proof?

Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by T And T Garage on 07/05/17 at 11:20:26


796660677A7D4C7C4C74666A21130 wrote:
Where is your proof?


http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/6/28/15888944/rnc-trump-hotel-fundraiser

What did you say about a SUUHWING AND a Miss??.... hmmm?

Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/05/17 at 12:05:11

Your butthurtedness is a joke.
If it's not okay, he's sure being advised by some bad legal experts.

Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by T And T Garage on 07/05/17 at 12:37:36


4F5056514C4B7A4A7A42505C17250 wrote:
Your butthurtedness is a joke.
If it's not okay, he's sure being advised by some bad legal experts.


So then you admit defeat - thanks!

Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/05/17 at 12:59:09

If growing weary of dueling with such a vacuous and intellectually dishonest creature is Defeat, I'm DEAD.
You will not admit to being wrong when the very people YOU quoted in your accusations ADMIT THEY LIED!!!
Yeah, you win,, wow..

Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by T And T Garage on 07/05/17 at 13:12:08


4F5056514C4B7A4A7A42505C17250 wrote:
If growing weary of dueling with such a vacuous and intellectually dishonest creature is Defeat, I'm DEAD.
You will not admit to being wrong when the very people YOU quoted in your accusations ADMIT THEY LIED!!!
Yeah, you win,, wow..


Thanks, I accept your concession.  

Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/05/17 at 13:54:52

WINNING on facts isn't the same as being an insufferable jerk, unwilling to admit that you've been harping on pure bullshit that is ADMITTED to be Just THAT, pure bullshit.
I'm not willing to " Debate  " someone who won't admit the facts.
If you can call That
WINNING
then you win.
You don't understand that it's impossible to Cheat
And
WIN.

Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by T And T Garage on 07/05/17 at 14:16:29


3A252324393E0F3F0F37252962500 wrote:
WINNING on facts isn't the same as being an insufferable jerk, unwilling to admit that you've been harping on pure bullshit that is ADMITTED to be Just THAT, pure bullshit.

What is BS?  The fact that tweety held a fundraiser at his own hotel in DC and made money off it?  Sorry, that's a fact.  And that is the very definition of "conflict of interest"

I'm not willing to " Debate  " someone who won't admit the facts.
If you can call That
WINNING
then you win.

So, is anything I've posted in this thread a lie?  If so - prove it to be a lie.  If you can't - then shut up and move on.

You don't understand that it's impossible to Cheat
And
WIN.


Our president is doing just that (conflict of interest), and the likes of you support him fully.  Let's see how that will work out, shall we?

Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by pg on 07/05/17 at 14:48:40

If a hotel is the best ya got, Trump is well ahead of the curve.

Best regards,

Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by T And T Garage on 07/05/17 at 14:53:38


2235333F3020520 wrote:
If a hotel is the best ya got, Trump is well ahead of the curve.

Best regards,



LOL - more than that pg, it's ALL I NEED - duh!

SMH

Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by pg on 07/05/17 at 14:59:52


293738393429322F5D0 wrote:
LOL - more than that pg, it's ALL I NEED - duh!

SMH



What, are you going to contact Cenk?   ::)

Best regards,

Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by T And T Garage on 07/05/17 at 15:03:07


697E78747B6B190 wrote:
[quote author=293738393429322F5D0 link=1498761056/45#54 date=1499291618]

LOL - more than that pg, it's ALL I NEED - duh!

SMH



What, are you going to contact Cenk?   ::)

Best regards,
[/quote]

Why?  What's he got to do with it?

Just admit that tweety demonstrated a textbook case of conflict of interest and move on.

SMH

Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by pg on 07/05/17 at 15:11:30

To me this is not an issue. Regardless, it alleviate multiple security concerns having first hand knowledge of the property and staff.  Get over it, it is a hotel....   Roll Eyes

Best regards,

Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by T And T Garage on 07/05/17 at 15:13:25


6671777B7464160 wrote:
To me this is not an issue. Regardless, it alleviate multiple security concerns having first hand knowledge of the property and staff.  Get over it, it is a hotel....   Roll Eyes

Best regards,


I see I'm talking to Cleopatra's mate here.. the king of denial!

BWAAAHAAHAAHAAHAA!!!!!

Yeah, as long as it's tweety, it's ok....

Too funny!!!

Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/05/17 at 15:35:22

Let's talk about this


Videos of cnn admits no collusion with russia
bing.com/videos
CNN Admits NO EVIDENCE of Collusion!
3:31
CNN Admits NO EVIDENCE of Collusion!
YouTube
Clapper: Putin sought to advantage Trump
0:43
Clapper: Putin sought to advantage Trump
CNN
CNN's Cooper to Pelosi: How Damaging It Is for Democrats If No Russia Collusion?
2:23HD
CNN's Cooper to Pelosi: How Damaging It Is for Democrats If No Russia Collusion?
YouTube
CNN'S LAST BREATH! #3 - CNN ADMITS THEY'RE LEFTISTS! CNN ADMITS NO TRUMP RUSSIA COLLUSION
9:39HD
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See more videos of cnn admits no collusion with russia
CNN Democrat Van Jones Admits Russia Collusion …
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEN73e59oxU
Jun 28, 2017 · CNN Democrat Van Jones Admits Russia Collusion Story

Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by pg on 07/05/17 at 15:46:22


637D72737E637865170 wrote:
[quote author=6671777B7464160 link=1498761056/45#57 date=1499292690]To me this is not an issue. Regardless, it alleviate multiple security concerns having first hand knowledge of the property and staff.  Get over it, it is a hotel....   Roll Eyes

Best regards,


I see I'm talking to Cleopatra's mate here.. the king of denial!

BWAAAHAAHAAHAAHAA!!!!!

Yeah, as long as it's tweety, it's ok....

Too funny!!![/quote]


Clinton had hundreds of millions going through her pay-to-play scheme and your worried about a hotel......    ;D

Best regards,

Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/05/17 at 15:50:05

CNN Democrat Van Jones Admits Russia Collusion Story

IS Bullshit..

The same source YOU called truthful
Admits
It's BULLSHIT.
But you're STILL RIGHT.
The PERPETUALLY WRONG, stands on some moral outrage,

Again
And
Again

Don't you ever get tired of stepping on that rake?

Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by T And T Garage on 07/06/17 at 07:36:10


706F696E73744575457D6F63281A0 wrote:
CNN Democrat Van Jones Admits Russia Collusion Story

IS Bullshit..

The same source YOU called truthful
Admits
It's BULLSHIT.
But you're STILL RIGHT.
The PERPETUALLY WRONG, stands on some moral outrage,

Again
And
Again

Don't you ever get tired of stepping on that rake?


Let's see the taxes, hmmm?

Oh, and again - try and stay on the thread topic, huh?

SMH

Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/06/17 at 07:52:25

I don't care about you or your topic.
Own the lies.
Own the fact that all you Trump haters have happily gone along with the Bullshit lies, while I told you there was nothing to it. They had NOTHING, because they never Said what they had. And Boy, they would have been shouting from the rooftops if ANYTHING could be called evidence.

You people FAIL consistently, and you FAIL to even admit the obvious.
The ESTABLISHMENT hates Trump.
And LOOVES that bipedal Pustule Hillary.

No, until you people have the guts to admit it, you're gonna be seeing constant reminders..

Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by T And T Garage on 07/06/17 at 08:01:07


293630372A2D1C2C1C24363A71430 wrote:
I don't care about you or your topic.

LOL - obviously...

Own the lies.

What lies?  The investigation is still going on.

Own the fact that all you Trump haters have happily gone along with the Bullshit lies, while I told you there was nothing to it. They had NOTHING, because they never Said what they had. And Boy, they would have been shouting from the rooftops if ANYTHING could be called evidence.

Like I said - it's still going on... we'll see what they find.

You people FAIL consistently, and you FAIL to even admit the obvious.
The ESTABLISHMENT hates Trump.  I agree with that.

And LOOVES that bipedal Pustule Hillary.  I agree with that - that's why she didn't win.  People would have voted for a circus bear rather than hillary... come to think of it - they did!

No, until you people have the guts to admit it, you're gonna be seeing constant reminders..


Gee, woe is me... whatever shall I do?.... LMAO!!!  

Go ahead - rant like a lunatic.  Until the investigation is over, all you have is conjecture.

Good luck!  
LOL

Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/06/17 at 08:05:29

You can actually believe that? There is no longer a hope for honest debate.
The people Who You were quoting GOT BUSTED admitting it was for RATINGS, the CONJECTURE is all yours.
FFS, even CNN isn't denying they are busted.
But you buncha GENIUSES know what happened..

Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by T And T Garage on 07/06/17 at 08:10:27


445B5D5A4740714171495B571C2E0 wrote:
You can actually believe that? There is no longer a hope for honest debate.

Wow jog - get a hold of yourself..LOL

Is the investigation still going on or not?

Simple question, simple answer.

The people Who You were quoting GOT BUSTED admitting it was for RATINGS, the CONJECTURE is all yours.
FFS, even CNN isn't denying they are busted.
But you buncha GENIUSES know what happened..


Answer the question jog... is it ongoing or not?

Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/06/17 at 09:32:18

Did you bring your lunch or did you ride a bicycle?
Nonsequiter.
The investigation ongoing isn't at all relevant.
CNN is BUSTED.
Your Source admitted it was BULLSHIT and done for RATINGS.
Which the Trump Hating Snowflakes gobbled up, without evidence.
Now, when was CNN LYING?
When they were Telling the Stories and getting ratings or when they accidentally admitted it was BULLSHIT?

Answer I t.


Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by raydawg on 07/06/17 at 10:12:31


5B454A4B465B405D2F0 wrote:
[quote author=445B5D5A4740714171495B571C2E0 link=1498761056/60#65 date=1499353529]You can actually believe that? There is no longer a hope for honest debate.

Wow jog - get a hold of yourself..LOL

Is the investigation still going on or not?

Simple question, simple answer.

The people Who You were quoting GOT BUSTED admitting it was for RATINGS, the CONJECTURE is all yours.
FFS, even CNN isn't denying they are busted.
But you buncha GENIUSES know what happened..


Answer the question jog... is it ongoing or not?
[/quote]

Is Loretta being investigated?

Hey sport, field this one :

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1499252905

Or do you not hold yourself to the same charge you level on others  ::)


Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by T And T Garage on 07/06/17 at 10:18:03


67746C71746272150 wrote:
[quote author=5B454A4B465B405D2F0 link=1498761056/60#66 date=1499353827][quote author=445B5D5A4740714171495B571C2E0 link=1498761056/60#65 date=1499353529]You can actually believe that? There is no longer a hope for honest debate.

Wow jog - get a hold of yourself..LOL

Is the investigation still going on or not?

Simple question, simple answer.

The people Who You were quoting GOT BUSTED admitting it was for RATINGS, the CONJECTURE is all yours.
FFS, even CNN isn't denying they are busted.
But you buncha GENIUSES know what happened..


Answer the question jog... is it ongoing or not?
[/quote]

Is Loretta being investigated?

Hey sport, field this one :

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1499252905

Or do you not hold yourself to the same charge you level on others  ::)

[/quote]


Thanks buddy... But to "field that one" all I have to do is ask the same question....

IS THE INVESTIGATION STILL GOING ON??

Simple question - simple answer.

Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by raydawg on 07/06/17 at 12:38:06

Of course it's going on, that proves what?
As Loretta is?
Did Hillary's go on, and?
Will it be continued now since it never was pressed, as in not guilty?

You wanna answer any, all, or none by your dodge?

Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by T And T Garage on 07/06/17 at 13:12:06


53405845405646210 wrote:
Of course it's going on, that proves what?

Um... gee... I dunno.... because there's a reason to think our president and his minions are culpable??  C'mon 'buddy' - it ain't that difficult to figure out... even for you.

As Loretta is?

Yeah, looks like the senate is investigating her... and your point??
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/06/the-senate-is-now-investigating-loretta-lynch.html

Did Hillary's go on, and?

And on, and on, and on, and on.... more committees than the 9/11 commission... how about that 'buddy'?

Will it be continued now since it never was pressed, as in not guilty?

hillary's?  No - because it was political... DUH - c'mon... again... it ain't that hard to figure out.... lol

You wanna answer any, all, or none by your dodge?


I don't dodge, 'buddy'.  I answer.  And I stay on topic.

Tell your buddies to do the same.

Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by raydawg on 07/06/17 at 13:35:46


2A343B3A372A312C5E0 wrote:
[quote author=53405845405646210 link=1498761056/60#70 date=1499369886]Of course it's going on, that proves what?

Um... gee... I dunno.... because there's a reason to think our president and his minions are culpable??  C'mon 'buddy' - it ain't that difficult to figure out... even for you.

As Loretta is?

Yeah, looks like the senate is investigating her... and your point??
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/06/the-senate-is-now-investigating-loretta-lynch.html

Did Hillary's go on, and?

And on, and on, and on, and on.... more committees than the 9/11 commission... how about that 'buddy'?

Will it be continued now since it never was pressed, as in not guilty?

hillary's?  No - because it was political... DUH - c'mon... again... it ain't that hard to figure out.... lol

You wanna answer any, all, or none by your dodge?


I don't dodge, 'buddy'.  I answer.  And I stay on topic.

Tell your buddies to do the same.
[/quote]


One last (futile) attempt

Hillary was under investigation, not a matter, FBI said they would NOT recommend criminal charges.
Oh gee, could that happen to Trump, too..... Golly, I s'pose, but they will find something because you want them to, got it.

Done  :-*

Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by T And T Garage on 07/06/17 at 13:41:16


697A627F7A6C7C1B0 wrote:
One last (futile) attempt

Hillary was under investigation, not a matter, FBI said they would NOT recommend criminal charges.

OK - so?... no point there?  Are you just typing?....

Oh gee, could that happen to Trump, too..... Golly, I s'pose, but they will find something because you want them to, got it.

Well, no... not because I want them to - because there's something to find.

Don't forget this little tidbit - all along I've said - "I guess we'll see".  If you missed that, it's your own fault.

But also don't get me wrong - I hope they find something on tweety - he's a national embarrassment.  But yeah, I'm sure he's not hiding anything in his taxes... nooooo... uh uh... <<<sarcasm

Done  :-*


Over and out?... hmmm?

Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by pg on 07/06/17 at 18:21:40


7B656A6B667B607D0F0 wrote:
 But yeah, I'm sure he's not hiding anything in his taxes... nooooo... uh uh... <<<sarcasm


How about this?    :-X

http://www.npr.org/2017/06/19/533481642/trumps-financial-disclosure-forms-released

Best regards,


Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/06/17 at 19:38:53

ell, no... not because I want them to - because there's something to find


I WONDER WHY the DNC didn't let the FBI check out their servers,,,


Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by T And T Garage on 07/07/17 at 08:21:35


283F39353A2A580 wrote:
[quote author=7B656A6B667B607D0F0 link=1498761056/60#73 date=1499373676]  But yeah, I'm sure he's not hiding anything in his taxes... nooooo... uh uh... <<<sarcasm


How about this?    :-X

http://www.npr.org/2017/06/19/533481642/trumps-financial-disclosure-forms-released

Best regards,

[/quote]

So... How about this?

"These numbers don't appear to include expenses, so they don't reveal Trump's bottom line. And Trump's company has debts as well as assets. The forms indicate that Trump owes $315 million to foreign and domestic lenders. Jim Zarroli, NPR News, New York."

Nice try...

Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by T And T Garage on 07/07/17 at 08:22:50


584741465B5C6D5D6D55474B00320 wrote:
ell, no... not because I want them to - because there's something to find


I WONDER WHY the DNC didn't let the FBI check out their servers,,,


Right to privacy.

Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/07/17 at 10:06:44

That's the mechanism by which they were able to avoid having it looked at.

An honest person would have answered the QUESTION.

Why did they choose to not have it looked at?
The DNC was screwing Bernie and evidence was on it.

Bet on it.

Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by T And T Garage on 07/07/17 at 10:15:42


584741465B5C6D5D6D55474B00320 wrote:
That's the mechanism by which they were able to avoid having it looked at.

An honest person would have answered the QUESTION.

Why did they choose to not have it looked at?
The DNC was screwing Bernie and evidence was on it.

Bet on it.


Give me your social security number and address right now.....

No?  Oh yeah... you have a right to privacy....

See how that works?

And once again, you ASSume far too much.  How the heck do you know what's on the DNC servers???

Please, stop grasping for straws.

Besides, without even looking at the serves, it's pretty easy to tell that the DNC wanted to squelch Bernie... duh!

Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/07/17 at 10:28:30

They Did it.
You think it's okay for the party to Lie, pretending to be fair, and screw Bernie?
Debbie had to resign, and go to work for Hillary, whom she had been working for all along.

Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by T And T Garage on 07/07/17 at 10:38:00


36292F2835320333033B29256E5C0 wrote:
They Did it.

Did what, support their favorite?  Yeah, we know... duh!!

You think it's okay for the party to Lie, pretending to be fair, and screw Bernie?

No, that's why I have no love loss for hillary.  Don't you pay attention??

Debbie had to resign, and go to work for Hillary, whom she had been working for all along.

Thanks captain obvious!  No one knew that...... instead of ranting and raving about it, I choose to continue to point out the flaws in the establishment.  
smh


Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by pg on 07/07/17 at 18:47:50


554B444548554E53210 wrote:
Give me your social security number and address right now.....

No?  Oh yeah... you have a right to privacy....

See how that works?


Depends on the state you live in.

What information in my voter record is considered “public”?

A3. Your full name, residential address, party affiliation and date of affiliation, phone number (if provided by the voter), gender identity, birth year, and information about whether you have voted in prior elections is public information. The Secretary of State is required by the law to give this information to any member of the public who asks for it.

https://www.sos.state.co.us/pubs/elections/FAQs/GeneralRegistrationData.html

Best regards,

Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by T And T Garage on 07/10/17 at 08:17:56


1304020E0111630 wrote:
[quote author=554B444548554E53210 link=1498761056/75#79 date=1499447742]
Give me your social security number and address right now.....

No?  Oh yeah... you have a right to privacy....

See how that works?


Depends on the state you live in.

No it doesn't!  Your SS# is private.  As to votier regs... only some of that is public.

What information in my voter record is considered “public”?

A3. Your full name, residential address, party affiliation and date of affiliation, phone number (if provided by the voter), gender identity, birth year, and information about whether you have voted in prior elections is public information. The Secretary of State is required by the law to give this information to any member of the public who asks for it.

https://www.sos.state.co.us/pubs/elections/FAQs/GeneralRegistrationData.html

Best regards,
[/quote]

Let's be real - this shows contempt for tweety's administration - with good reason:

"Strong responses have spanned both parties. They include Republican Mississippi Secretary of State Delbert Hosemann who said, "My reply would be: They can go jump in the Gulf of Mexico, and Mississippi is a great state to launch from," and Democratic Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe saying, "At best this commission was set up as a pretext to validate Donald Trump's alternative election facts, and at worst is a tool to commit large-scale voter suppression." "

Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by Serowbot on 07/10/17 at 08:58:03

If Obama was doing this,.. they'd be crying police state... Unconstitutional,.. States rights,.. one world order,... big brother...
;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Yeah, I know, the president isn't the problem.
Post by T And T Garage on 07/10/17 at 09:25:14


495F48554D58554E3A0 wrote:
If Obama was doing this,.. they'd be crying police state... Unconstitutional,.. States rights,.. one world order,... big brother...
;D ;D ;D



Uh uh... no way... nope!

Pfffftttt...LOL - oh my how they'd howl!!!

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