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Message started by raydawg on 07/10/17 at 10:13:16

Title: LOOK OUT..... its a trap!
Post by raydawg on 07/10/17 at 10:13:16

Gee, Tweeter Jr. goes to the enemies domain, the NYT, and tells a story of a meeting, a connected Russian who is peddling a Hillary and Russian collusion....

FLAG FLAG FLAG.........

The pantie wadders, as evidenced by the participation here, on this board, this morning, are all excited.
This is the BIGGIE, the one that they haven't been able to find yet, stick yet, prove.
And the Mini Twitter delivers it to the times.....

Yeah, sure.

In their glee, they DEMAND another investigation.......

Ok, sure.

And this investigation leads to Hillary and the Russians in cahoots  :o

It reminds me of how the Eskimos use to freeze a knife in a bloody glob of blubber.  
Leave it out.
The wolf, in his frenzy, licked it readily.....
Not realizing the blood he was lusting upon was his own.

Title: Re: LOOK OUT..... its a trap!
Post by T And T Garage on 07/10/17 at 10:28:59


75667E63667060070 wrote:
Gee, Tweeter Jr. goes to the enemies domain, the NYT, and tells a story of a meeting, a connected Russian who is peddling a Hillary and Russian collusion....

FLAG FLAG FLAG.........

The pantie wadders, as evidenced by the participation here, on this board, this morning, are all excited.
This is the BIGGIE, the one that they haven't been able to find yet, stick yet, prove.
And the Mini Twitter delivers it to the times.....

Yeah, sure.

In their glee, they DEMAND another investigation.......

Ok, sure.

And this investigation leads to Hillary and the Russians in cahoots  :o

It reminds me of how the Eskimos use to freeze a knife in a bloody glob of blubber.  
Leave it out.
The wolf, in his frenzy, licked it readily.....
Not realizing the blood he was lusting upon was his own.


LOL - well first off - there is no "hillary and the russians in cahoots".  Yeah, she gave speeches - everything was above board.  Sorry.

Second - this is just another straw on the camel's back that will break under the incompetence of this administration.  jr's idiocy, our president's idiocy and the ongoing investigation will prove themselves out.

Third - great analogy - for the republicans and their constant ineptitude.  They forget that they put the knife in there, and then gnaw at the blubber!!   LOL

Title: Re: LOOK OUT..... its a trap!
Post by raydawg on 07/10/17 at 11:30:00

We'll see......won't we.

Title: Re: LOOK OUT..... its a trap!
Post by T And T Garage on 07/10/17 at 11:33:31


2E3D25383D2B3B5C0 wrote:
We'll see......won't we.


LOL - yeah, I've been saying that all along, haven't i?

Title: Re: LOOK OUT..... its a trap!
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/10/17 at 11:33:52

- well first off - there is no "hillary and the russians in cahoots".  Yeah, she gave speeches - everything was above board.  SorrY


Wow,, Mr. Conflict of Interest
Doesn't see how the Clinton Foundation benefited
Because of
Her position.

Title: Re: LOOK OUT..... its a trap!
Post by T And T Garage on 07/10/17 at 11:39:37


2D3234332E2918281820323E75470 wrote:
- well first off - there is no "hillary and the russians in cahoots".  Yeah, she gave speeches - everything was above board.  SorrY


Wow,, Mr. Conflict of Interest
Doesn't see how the Clinton Foundation benefited
Because of
Her position.


Never said they didn't.  In fact, never defended the action.

However, like I did say, it was above board and not kept secret.  Further, all the CF taxes are out there for public consumption, unlike our president's.  (also, the CF is a NPO)

Further yet, there was no quid pro quo to be found anywhere in the CF.

So... nice try.  Sorry, but that's a real nothing-burger.

LOL

Title: Re: LOOK OUT..... its a trap!
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/10/17 at 11:50:50

Since it leaked out,
No Foul

Title: Re: LOOK OUT..... its a trap!
Post by T And T Garage on 07/10/17 at 11:52:15


7E6167607D7A4B7B4B73616D26140 wrote:
Since it leaked out,
No Foul


What leaked out?

Title: Re: LOOK OUT..... its a trap!
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/10/17 at 12:08:34

It wasn't exactly public that she was making money while deciding things.

Title: Re: LOOK OUT..... its a trap!
Post by T And T Garage on 07/10/17 at 12:27:13


36292F2835320333033B29256E5C0 wrote:
It wasn't exactly public that she was making money while deciding things.


Yes, it was.  Back when bill gave the speech, the white house had to explain it 100 different times to the media and the right wing -  but it wasn't really reported on until early in 2011 and the righties never brought it up until hillary started her run.  Further, neither hillary nor bill make money from the CF.

Title: Re: LOOK OUT..... its a trap!
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/10/17 at 12:46:40

Further, neither hillary nor bill make money from the CF.

Further, neither hillary nor bill make money from the CF.

Ohhh, Stop! You're hurting me.

Title: Re: LOOK OUT..... its a trap!
Post by T And T Garage on 07/10/17 at 12:56:45


485751564B4C7D4D7D45575B10220 wrote:
Further, neither hillary nor bill make money from the CF.

Further, neither hillary nor bill make money from the CF.

Ohhh, Stop! You're hurting me.


If they did, it's pretty easy to see.  Besides, bill made $10 million from giving speeches in 2010.  Why the heck would he want to raid the CF coffers?

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Post by MShipley on 07/10/17 at 13:18:05

I find it interesting that everything Hillary does is obviously innocent and everything Trump does is obviously collusion. NO BIAS HERE.

Title: Re: LOOK OUT..... its a trap!
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/10/17 at 13:21:14

http://nypost.com/2016/11/06/chelsea-clinton-used-foundation-to-help-pay-for-wedding-emails/

The emails, not called manufactured, are nothing, because of How they were made public, not because they aren't true.

Title: Re: LOOK OUT..... its a trap!
Post by T And T Garage on 07/10/17 at 13:24:41


051B202138242D31480 wrote:
I find it interesting that everything Hillary does is obviously innocent and everything Trump does is obviously collusion. NO BIAS HERE.


I'm no fan of hillary, but what was happening with the CF and her, was above board (do you know what that means?)

With tweety, we're finding out new things every day!  Can you deny that?  Can you deny that jr. is now possibly culpable in russia's hacking?

You honestly don't see the difference????

LOL

Title: Re: LOOK OUT..... its a trap!
Post by T And T Garage on 07/10/17 at 13:30:02


4F5056514C4B7A4A7A42505C17250 wrote:
http://nypost.com/2016/11/06/chelsea-clinton-used-foundation-to-help-pay-for-wedding-emails/

The emails, not called manufactured, are nothing, because of How they were made public, not because they aren't true.



Since you probably wouldn't go to the site:

The Facts

This allegation first emerged in a tweet by WikiLeaks, which highlighted a 2012 email from a former Bill Clinton aide to Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta. “Chelsea Clinton used Clinton Foundation resources for her wedding,” the group tweeted the Sunday morning before election day.


Chelsea Clinton used Clinton Foundation resources for her wedding -- email from top Bill Clinton aid Doug Band https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/52046#efmABYACC …

Intelligence agencies have identified individuals with connections to the Russian government who provided WikiLeaks with thousands of hacked emails from the Democratic National Committee and others, including Podesta. WikiLeaks had been doling out leaks for weeks but presumably held on to this one for maximum impact just before Election Day.

The only U.S. newspaper that reported the story was the New York Post, which ran this print-edition headline: “Bridal $weet for Chelsea; Foundation cash for nups.”

The first paragraph also stressed the cash angle: “Chelsea Clinton used her family foundation’s cash to pay for her wedding, living expenses and taxes on gifts of cash from her parents, according to a bombshell email made public Sunday.”

The story also was picked up by British tabloids, Fox News, Russian news agencies and various right-leaning websites. Fox headlined its story: “Clinton aide says Foundation paid for Chelsea’s wedding.”

But otherwise the story did not get mentioned on other networks or newspapers, except for reference to it by conservative columnist Hugh Hewitt on MSNBC.

Despite the breathless reporting, it’s hard to tell exactly what is going on in the email exchange, which is dated Jan. 4, 2012. There is no mention of actual Foundation monies being used for the wedding.

Doug Band, the former Clinton aide, first complains to Podesta that he had heard that Chelsea Clinton had told one of George W. Bush’s daughters that she was conducting an investigation of Clinton Foundation finances. “Not smart,” Band says.

Podesta replies, “You are perfecting your skills for understatement.”

“I learned from the best,” answers Band. Then he adds, ominously: “The investigation into her getting paid for campaigning, using foundation resources for her wedding and life for a decade, taxes on money from her parents….I hope you will speak to her and end this. Once we go down this road….”

So, without being specific, Band appears to be alleging Chelsea Clinton engaged in some inappropriate use of Clinton Foundation “resources” — whatever that is — for her 2010 wedding to Marc Mezvinsky. Clearly, there’s some bad blood between Chelsea Clinton and Band, who had left the foundation in 2011 to start his own company, Teneo Holdings. She had taken a stronger role in the foundation and expressed concerns over Teneo’s operations. In another email disclosed by WikiLeaks, Band called her a “spoiled brat kid.”

Band declined to comment on the wedding email, and Podesta did not respond to a request for comment.

[Update: An earlier version of this column said the Clinton Foundation was subject to Internal Revenue Service rules against self-dealing in the use of foundation resources. But the Clinton Foundation actually is not a private foundation but a public charity, and thus is covered by rules prohibiting inurement, an arcane word meaning “benefit.”  One possible use of “resources” would be foundation employees volunteering at the wedding.

“Assuming that Clinton Foundation employees happened to volunteer at the wedding, and were not doing it on their time paid as a Clinton Foundation employee, there is no way it violates the inurement rule,” said Philip T. Hackney, associate law professor at LSU Law Center. “If on the other hand, of course, these employees were paid for that time by the Clinton Foundation, that would likely violate the provision.”

Hackney added that “from what I have been able to tell the Foundation is pretty darn well run on the whole and I would not expect to engage in such an egregious violation of basic rules regarding charities.”]

But no evidence has emerged that even volunteers were used, and the Clinton Foundation denied any resources at all were diverted to the Clinton wedding. “No Foundation funds or resources were used for the wedding,” said Brian Cookstra, a Foundation spokesman, even after we ran various scenarios past him, including use of personal staff and even volunteers.

“As was reported widely at the time, the Clintons hired a wedding planner,” Cookstra said. “The planning, management, and execution of the event was handled by him, which included managing vendors, venue, etc.”

Bryan Rafanelli, the wedding planner, said that when he read a news article alleging the foundation paid for Chelsea’s wedding, he thought, “Oh come on, that’s crazy.”

Rafanelli said that he dealt with five people on the wedding: Bill, Hillary and Chelsea Clinton, Mezvinsky and Dorothy Rodham, her grandmother. He said he arranged for the vendors, after providing options, and then planned it out “like a military operation.” He even booked the hotel rooms for guests. The only thing he did not provide was the guest list and the seating order of the guests.

“It’s one-stop shopping,” he said. “You pay Rafanelli. We pay everyone else.”

He noted that he had a staff of 25 people working on the Clinton wedding and the location — a Hudson River estate — was a secret to guests until four days before the wedding.

The cost of the wedding has never been revealed, but Rafanelli says figures in the media are exaggerated.

“The Clintons happily and proudly paid for the wedding,” said Angel Urena, a spokesman for the former president.

The Pinocchio Test

It’s important to remember that Band’s email was sent privately, with little expectation it would be aired publicly. On the one hand, that might indicate he would be more open about possible conflicts. But he was also feuding with Chelsea Clinton and so might have been inclined to exaggerate or embellish his concerns.

Even the email, at face value, does not justify the hyperbolic news coverage. There was no reference to foundation monies, just “resources.”

At the same time, the foundation, the family and the wedding planner deny the claim made in the email. This was a major social event with 450 guests, something that has to run on clockwork — at great cost. The wedding planner paid the bills and submitted one bill to the Clinton family.

We can’t really award Pinocchios here, since no specific person repeated this allegation. But we can fault the news reporting — and label this as a claim lacking any evidence. Readers (or their friends) who viewed this as the “last straw” about Clinton corruption need to be more careful consumers of the news.

No Evidence

Title: Re: LOOK OUT..... its a trap!
Post by MShipley on 07/10/17 at 13:30:17

Actually Justice is an interesting subject. There is a balance of Grace vs Wrath. No human is capable of absolute justice due to our prejudices, desires, likes, etcetera, so NO I do not see Justly but neither do you.

Title: Re: LOOK OUT..... its a trap!
Post by T And T Garage on 07/10/17 at 13:35:27


130D36372E323B275E0 wrote:
Actually Justice is an interesting subject. There is a balance of Grace vs Wrath. No human is capable of absolute justice due to our prejudices, desires, likes, etcetera, so NO I do not see Justly but neither do you.


Huh??  I'm just putting out the facts as they are.  I'm not spinning this.  Our president is a serial tweeter.  His sons are less that intelligent.  He refuses to release his taxes.  He's been caught lying.

Yes, my OPINION is that he's unfit to serve - but I 'm not in the minority on that front.

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Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/10/17 at 14:58:22

You're in the minority. Either way.
He won.

Title: Re: LOOK OUT..... its a trap!
Post by T And T Garage on 07/10/17 at 15:02:35


2E3137302D2A1B2B1B23313D76440 wrote:
You're in the minority. Either way.
He won.


Yes, he won - but I'm definitely not in the minority.

More people think he's doing a terrible job than approve of him (unless there's some new definition to 'minority') . And... let's not forget that pesky popular vote.

Title: Re: LOOK OUT..... its a trap!
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/10/17 at 15:58:54

Unfit to serve.
People can be less than Thrilled And still not call him unfit.
You can lean on the popular vote. I'm not convinced she won that. I don't believe she won anything. I guess that's because I don't want to believe so many are so easily conned.

Title: Re: LOOK OUT..... its a trap!
Post by Serowbot on 07/10/17 at 16:11:18

Look,. there are investigations that are over, (nothingburgers), and there are investigations that are ongoing...
Seems like the defence is,... "Well, what about this?"..
NEWS FLASH... "This" is over"...
It was fun for you while it lasted,.. but there was nothing... investigation done.
We'll have to see what comes of the current investigations, won't we?...
Maybe not a nothingburger,... maybe a Trump steak... :P

Title: Re: LOOK OUT..... its a trap!
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/10/17 at 18:42:09

The same establishment that hates Trump loves her. That's who runs the Investigation.

Title: Re: LOOK OUT..... its a trap!
Post by T And T Garage on 07/11/17 at 06:27:56


47585E5944437242724A58541F2D0 wrote:
The same establishment that hates Trump loves her. That's who runs the Investigation.



LOL - yeah, go ahead and lie to yourself.... that's it - that'll make you feel better....

Title: Re: LOOK OUT..... its a trap!
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/11/17 at 06:31:16

That's IT? That's your rebuttal? You have acknowledged that the establishment hates Trump. And if Hillary ISN'T establishment, what is she?
The double standard is so obvious.

Title: Re: LOOK OUT..... its a trap!
Post by T And T Garage on 07/11/17 at 06:56:20


322D2B2C31360737073F2D216A580 wrote:
That's IT? That's your rebuttal? You have acknowledged that the establishment hates Trump. And if Hillary ISN'T establishment, what is she?
The double standard is so obvious.


Listen jog - when it comes to our current president, it has NOTHING to do with establishment.  It has everything to do with his utter incompetence and unfitness to lead this country.

Stop pinning everything on the establishment.  Yeah, I know they exist (I've said more than once that that's why hillary lost, because she is establishment) - but in this case, it's just a matter of being inept, unqualified and delusional.

It's not just the establishment that wants this moron our of office.  His approval ratings are record breaking lows.  His $hit show at the G20 was an embarrassment.  He tweets directly off of fox and friends.

Why can't you see that this man-child is a MORON??  He should not be in office.  I can't stand the though of pence, but at least we won't be embarrassed by him (I hope).

Since you like analogies so much, here's this one - our president is like the kid in middle school that runs for class president promising more recess and chocolate cake at lunch.  Then he gets in and realizes that there's no way he can live up to those promises.  Pretty soon, all the kids (not just the ones that voted for him) get ticked off and have him thrown off the student council.....

Wait, no... that's not really an analogy now... is it??  LMAO

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Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/11/17 at 09:14:18

So the establishment that hates him and the media that is them don't create the perception that he sux, Riiight.

Title: Re: LOOK OUT..... its a trap!
Post by T And T Garage on 07/11/17 at 09:43:30


5C4345425F5869596951434F04360 wrote:
So the establishment that hates him and the media that is them don't create the perception that he sux, Riiight.


"Create perception"?????  That's rich!

Seriously??  This idiot couldn't find a coherent sentence (off prompter) with both hands and a roadmap!!

It's not the establishment... it's the man-child.

Title: Re: LOOK OUT..... its a trap!
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/11/17 at 09:46:48

Your hate blinds you

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Post by MShipley on 07/11/17 at 10:00:13

There used to be a guy out here years ago when I had my first S40, ultra liberal, I think his name was something like Syrinith, seems to be gone now. I have been back about 8 months and I gotta say "T", I have never heard someone with soooo much pent up anger and hate, you really need a break and I don't say that jokingly I say it with love. Go smell some roses, ride a bike. Personally I would suggest some prayer time giving these issues to the creator. Nothing any of us say or do on this Forum will change anything.

Title: Re: LOOK OUT..... its a trap!
Post by T And T Garage on 07/11/17 at 10:04:54


7F6066617C7B4A7A4A72606C27150 wrote:
Your hate blinds you


Your... (whatever it is that you have for tweety) blinds you:

---“Despite the constant negative press covfefe,”

---AP: Did you expect you would have good chemistry with her?

TRUMP: No. Because, um, I’m at odds on, you know, the NATO payments and I’m at odds on immigration. We had unbelievable chemistry. And people have given me credit for having great chemistry with all of the leaders, including el-Sissi. ...

TRUMP: So it was a great thing to see that happen.

---TRUMP: And the media, some of them get it, in all fairness. But you know some of them either don’t get it, in which case they’re very stupid people, or they just don’t want to say it. You know because of a couple of them said, “He didn’t call them a currency manipulator.” Well, for two reasons. Number One, he’s not, since my time. You know, very specific formula. You would think it’s like generalities, it’s not. They have — they’ve actually — their currency’s gone up. So it’s a very, very specific formula. And I said, “How badly have they been,” ... they said, “Since you got to office they have not manipulated their currency.” That’s Number One, but much more important, they are working with us on North Korea. Now maybe that’ll work out or maybe it won’t. Can you imagine? ...

---AP: Can I ask you, over your first 100 days—you’re not quite there yet—how do you feel like the office has changed you?

TRUMP: Well the one thing I would say—and I say this to people—I never realized how big it was. Everything’s so (unintelligible) like, you know the orders are so massive. I was talking to —

AP: You mean the responsibility of it, or do you mean —

TRUMP: Number One, there’s great responsibility. When it came time to, as an example, send out the 59 missiles, the Tomahawks in Syria. I’m saying to myself, “You know, this is more than just like, 79 (sic) missiles. This is death that’s involved,” because people could have been killed.


---He said: “I’ve been reading about things. I read in, I think it was January 20 a New York Times article where they were talking about wiretapping. There was an article I think they used that exact term. I read other things.

“I watched your friend, Bret Baier, the day previous where he was talking about certain very complex sets of things happening, and wiretapping. I said, wait a minute, there’s a lot of wiretapping being talked about. I’ve been seeing a lot of things”.


Ramblings of a moron

Title: Re: LOOK OUT..... its a trap!
Post by T And T Garage on 07/11/17 at 10:16:31


574972736A767F631A0 wrote:
There used to be a guy out here years ago when I had my first S40, ultra liberal, I think his name was something like Syrinith, seems to be gone now. I have been back about 8 months and I gotta say "T", I have never heard someone with soooo much pent up anger and hate, you really need a break and I don't say that jokingly I say it with love. Go smell some roses, ride a bike. Personally I would suggest some prayer time giving these issues to the creator.

Nothing any of us say or do on this Forum will change anything.

I'm agnostic... I ride everyday and love the road.  I'm quite at ease.


Thanks for your mock concern, but I'll be fine.

Perhaps you should look in the mirror and take stock in what you support.

I honestly don't know how anyone can look at our president and think "yeah, he's doing a great job".

C'mon... seriously?

Oh - and before you go off - I know Obama was far from perfect. He turned out to be a corporate shill.  No bankers thrown in jail, etc.

But he looks like George Washington next to our current president.

I get WHY tweety was elected.  It was an anti-establishment vote, plain and simple.

But had the DNC not pushed hillary on us, there would have surely been a different outcome.

Face it - this guy is an imbecile.  Look at his tweets!!  Seriously!!

So you think my hate is unfounded?  That's you.  I think it's properly placed and within the majority thought of the Country.

I can't understand why anyone tries to defend him... honestly.

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Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/11/17 at 10:22:28

Man, exactly What is Wrong with you?

I honestly don't know how anyone can look at our president and think "yeah, he's doing a great job".


BULLSHIT
I've posted Real criticism
Why don't you see that?

Title: Re: LOOK OUT..... its a trap!
Post by T And T Garage on 07/11/17 at 10:57:21


617E787F62655464546C7E72390B0 wrote:
Man, exactly What is Wrong with you?

I honestly don't know how anyone can look at our president and think "yeah, he's doing a great job".


BULLSHIT
I've posted Real criticism
Why don't you see that?


Good for you!

I'm  doing the same... how about that?

Title: Re: LOOK OUT..... its a trap!
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/11/17 at 10:58:46

Fine. Accept when Your Guy is Wrong.

Title: Re: LOOK OUT..... its a trap!
Post by T And T Garage on 07/11/17 at 11:01:37


504F494E53546555655D4F43083A0 wrote:
Fine. Accept when Your Guy is Wrong.


"My guy" . Who's that?  Bernie?

What are you getting at jog?

Title: Re: LOOK OUT..... its a trap!
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/11/17 at 11:02:28

Obtuse much?

Title: Re: LOOK OUT..... its a trap!
Post by T And T Garage on 07/11/17 at 11:19:33


342B2D2A3730013101392B276C5E0 wrote:
Obtuse much?


LOL - seriously.. who is "My guy"?  If it's Bernie, just tell me.

That's actually the opposite of being obtuse.

The definition is - annoyingly insensitive or slow to understand.

I'm simply asking you who you mean.  Who is "my guy"?

If I was being obtuse, even after you tell me, I'd ask, "who is he"?

C'mon... you're being obstinate now...

Title: Re: LOOK OUT..... its a trap!
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/11/17 at 11:28:34

Your Guy is not One individual, but anyone who pushes the same talking points you do.
The fiasco dragging you to admit CNN lied was what caused the Rules post.
Stop pretending. Be honest. Answer the question.
It's not hard.

So, what Do you think we should do about climate change?
Sign a treaty?


Title: Re: LOOK OUT..... its a trap!
Post by T And T Garage on 07/11/17 at 11:42:44


617E787F62655464546C7E72390B0 wrote:
Your Guy is not One individual, but anyone who pushes the same talking points you do.

Oh... like your guy, right?  Got it.  LOL - we've all got "guys" jog - it's nothing new.  Why stew about it?

The fiasco dragging you to admit CNN lied was what caused the Rules post.
Stop pretending. Be honest. Answer the question.
It's not hard.

So, what Do you think we should do about climate change?
Sign a treaty?

Well, we already did to some degree - but our president pulled us out.  I think we should set limits on CO2 emissions and tonnage of particulate put into the air.

I think there should be incentive placed on manufacturing of clean energy - solar, wind, tidal, etc., that would spur growth in that sector.

More research money should be put toward nuclear fusion research and existing fission plants.

IMHO - the US should lead in the renewable world, not lag it.

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Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/11/17 at 12:47:10

But the other places where they have no restrictions?

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Post by T And T Garage on 07/11/17 at 13:36:23


0A151314090E3F0F3F07151952600 wrote:
But the other places where they have no restrictions?


Read the Paris Accord... sheesh!

We are not a babysitter to the world.  

We happen to produce more emissions per capita than almost any other country.  Let's start here, shall we?

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Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/11/17 at 13:45:10

China has about destroyed their environment. We've never been as nasty.
The manufacturing that Was Regulated HERE was moved There, into no regulations. You don't know what you are talking about.

Title: Re: LOOK OUT..... its a trap!
Post by T And T Garage on 07/11/17 at 14:04:22


6A757374696E5F6F5F67757932000 wrote:
China has about destroyed their environment. We've never been as nasty.
The manufacturing that Was Regulated HERE was moved There, into no regulations. You don't know what you are talking about.



LOL - what??  What the heck does that have to do with the US taking control of is emissions??

Get a grip, huh?  Just because China is polluting more than the US doesn't free us from the responsibility to reduce our own carbon footprint.

Seriously, have a nap and a cookie... sheesh!

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Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/11/17 at 17:11:23

Never mind. You're relentless in pursuit of wrongheadedness.

Title: Re: LOOK OUT..... its a trap!
Post by T And T Garage on 07/12/17 at 09:45:12


243B3D3A2720112111293B377C4E0 wrote:
Never mind. You're relentless in pursuit of wrongheadedness.


Typical response.  Yeah - move along.

Title: Re: LOOK OUT..... its a trap!
Post by Serowbot on 07/12/17 at 10:56:48

I get chewed a new one when I give responses like that... :-?

Title: Re: LOOK OUT..... its a trap!
Post by T And T Garage on 07/12/17 at 11:02:11


2432253820353823570 wrote:
I get chewed a new one when I give responses like that... :-?



Understood - but unlike many others on here, you have thick skin and, well, you're a grown up.

Title: Re: LOOK OUT..... its a trap!
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/12/17 at 11:54:46


4B555A5B564B504D3F0 wrote:
[quote author=6A757374696E5F6F5F67757932000 link=1499706796/30#42 date=1499805910]China has about destroyed their environment. We've never been as nasty.
The manufacturing that Was Regulated HERE was moved There, into no regulations. You don't know what you are talking about.



LOL - what??  What the heck does that have to do with the US taking control of is emissions??

Get a grip, huh?  Just because China is polluting more than the US doesn't free us from the responsibility to reduce our own carbon footprint.

Seriously, have a nap and a cookie... sheesh![/quote]


Title: Re: LOOK OUT..... its a trap!
Post by verslagen1 on 07/12/17 at 13:29:46

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_dioxide_emissions
http://https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c8/Co2-2013-top40.svg/495px-Co2-2013-top40.svg.png

double the output of the USA and that's probably under reported by 50%.
A home in the USA probably uses at least 10KW a day.  In china they'd be lucky to see 1KW.

Title: Re: LOOK OUT..... its a trap!
Post by raydawg on 07/13/17 at 08:52:01


7B656A6B667B607D0F0 wrote:
[quote author=2432253820353823570 link=1499706796/45#46 date=1499882208]I get chewed a new one when I give responses like that... :-?



Understood - but unlike many others on here, you have thick skin and, well, you're a grown up.[/quote]

TT, Make sure, for the record, with such a statement you add, that you are being ironic, sarcastic, in such postings/observations.

I get it that folks know Bot's is thin skinned, has a twitchy moderating finger, it is his personality.
His useless smirky remarks, and Grinch type persona, that has caused this board to suffer activity losses.....

But it would help the slow of comprehending like myself to cover more board, instead of scratching my head with befuddled fingers, on these Trump-like tweets, posts/replies, of asinine stupidity   :-?

Thank you  :-*

Title: Re: LOOK OUT..... its a trap!
Post by T And T Garage on 07/13/17 at 08:56:08


584B534E4B5D4D2A0 wrote:
[quote author=7B656A6B667B607D0F0 link=1499706796/45#47 date=1499882531][quote author=2432253820353823570 link=1499706796/45#46 date=1499882208]I get chewed a new one when I give responses like that... :-?



Understood - but unlike many others on here, you have thick skin and, well, you're a grown up.[/quote]

TT, Make sure, for the record, with such a statement you add, that you are being ironic, sarcastic, in such postings/observations.

That was NOT sarcasm.

I get it that folks know Bot's is thin skinned, has a twitchy moderating finger, it is his personality.
His useless smirky remarks, and Grinch type persona, that has caused this board to suffer activity losses.....

Like many right-wing minded people, I see TONS of projection.  I see the ones calling others 'snowflakes" the first ones to run and "tell".  

But it would help the slow of comprehending like myself to cover more board, instead of scratching my head with befuddled fingers, on these Trump-like tweets, posts/replies, of asinine stupidity   :-?

Thank you  :-*[/quote]

Title: Re: LOOK OUT..... its a trap!
Post by raydawg on 07/13/17 at 10:17:10

I see TONS of projection

Yeah, mirrors can be a real beech, huh  ;D

Title: Re: LOOK OUT..... its a trap!
Post by T And T Garage on 07/13/17 at 10:56:19


594A524F4A5C4C2B0 wrote:
I see TONS of projection

Yeah, mirrors can be a real beech, huh  ;D



I call it like I see it.

LOL - and people say I'M snarky.. lol

Title: Re: LOOK OUT..... its a trap!
Post by raydawg on 07/13/17 at 21:13:12


3C222D2C213C273A480 wrote:
[quote author=594A524F4A5C4C2B0 link=1499706796/45#52 date=1499966230]I see TONS of projection

Yeah, mirrors can be a real beech, huh  ;D



I call it like I see it.

LOL - and people say I'M snarky.. lol[/quote]


You might be better at calling it if you'd open your eyes, ya know....
However, your mind prolly is a lost cause.

Giddy up  ;D


Title: Re: LOOK OUT..... its a trap!
Post by T And T Garage on 07/14/17 at 05:44:01


21322A37322434530 wrote:
[quote author=3C222D2C213C273A480 link=1499706796/45#53 date=1499968579][quote author=594A524F4A5C4C2B0 link=1499706796/45#52 date=1499966230]I see TONS of projection

Yeah, mirrors can be a real beech, huh  ;D



I call it like I see it.

LOL - and people say I'M snarky.. lol[/quote]


You might be better at calling it if you'd open your eyes, ya know....
However, your mind prolly is a lost cause.

Giddy up  ;D

[/quote]

LOL - that might be true if I wasn't owning it on here - and everywhere else in my life.

To see the effect I'm having at riling all you (supposed conservatives) up goes to show that... well.... y'all got nothing and it ain't your world no more....

mic drop


Title: Re: LOOK OUT..... its a trap!
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/14/17 at 06:23:29

You've bested no-one intellectually.
You're just a disruptive force, diverting, obfuscating, ignoring the obvious and just being a jerk. The arrogance you protect your ignorance with is just amazing.
Maybe now that you've Won, and proven your greatness to yourself again,  you can move to a new challenge.. find another place and show them the wonders of your intellect.

Title: Re: LOOK OUT..... its a trap!
Post by T And T Garage on 07/14/17 at 07:13:52


5F4046415C5B6A5A6A52404C07350 wrote:
You've bested no-one intellectually.
You're just a disruptive force, diverting, obfuscating, ignoring the obvious and just being a jerk. The arrogance you protect your ignorance with is just amazing.
Maybe now that you've Won, and proven your greatness to yourself again,  you can move to a new challenge.. find another place and show them the wonders of your intellect.


Yet you respond... how about that?

I reply to ray, yet you feel the need to "put me in my place".

How's that workin' out for ya?

Title: Re: LOOK OUT..... its a trap!
Post by Serowbot on 07/14/17 at 07:28:05

Wouldn't it be nice if we just all got along...
If we were all blind Trump supporters...
..and all day here we just called Liberals snowflakes and said how great Trump is doing...

Is that the TT you want?...
A Conservative circle jerk?...
Ignore all that "fake" media, and  just report from all the Neocon blogging sites like they have the real facts...
We all know science is fake, and intelligence agencies just make stuff up...

How long could you continue here if every day was just a regurgitation of Breitbart , Jones, and Drudge?...

Should we make the TT a Trump rally instead of political discussion group?...

Title: Re: LOOK OUT..... its a trap!
Post by T And T Garage on 07/14/17 at 07:41:50

Could not have said it better myself.

Now, before you all go and call me "Bot's pet" - let me ask you all one little question....

Do you like riding on a flat, straight, road for miles and miles with no scenery?  Where's the fun in that?

Wouldn't you rather ride The Tail of the Dragon?  Challenge yourself?  Take the road less traveled?

Call me crazy (cue the snark), but I like curves and surprises.  

Title: Re: LOOK OUT..... its a trap!
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/14/17 at 07:52:13

No , you control the discussion. You stop discussion. It's not your ideology. It's your unwillingness to admit the facts oppose it when they do. It's pointless to argue black and white if you're unwilling to admit black is black after it's been proven. Your willingness to pretend that posting proof of lies SOMEHOW means I trust CNN is absolutely insane.
So, it's not about sero, it's not your ideology.
It's the intellectual dishonesty and unyielding arrogance after the facts knock your position down.
Why would anyone try to have a conversation with That?

Title: Re: LOOK OUT..... its a trap!
Post by T And T Garage on 07/14/17 at 08:00:14


57484E4954536252625A48440F3D0 wrote:
No , you control the discussion. You stop discussion. It's not your ideology. It's your unwillingness to admit the facts oppose it when they do. It's pointless to argue black and white if you're unwilling to admit black is black after it's been proven. Your willingness to pretend that posting proof of lies SOMEHOW means I trust CNN is absolutely insane.
So, it's not about sero, it's not your ideology.
It's the intellectual dishonesty and unyielding arrogance after the facts knock your position down.
Why would anyone try to have a conversation with That?



jog - enough.... seriously.

I've seen the posts from the past.  You've done the exact same thing to others!!  

So tell me - how long will you hold onto the whole CNN thing, huh?

What's it gonna take for you to drop it?

Tell me what you want.... I've offered you options, but you don't respond.

So jog - tell me.  Tell me flat out, what you want.

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