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Title: Healthcare pushback... Post by Serowbot on 07/19/17 at 14:21:54 With only 17% approval, Trumpcare is goin' down in flames. Now, with Punkinhead's plan to let Obamacare die,.. the push is coming from many directions... including Republican governors... This may be the straw that breaks the camels back and issues a single-payer plan into being... People are tired of having their lives toyed with,.. they want stability. Wouldn't it be funny if the Pub's ended up giving us single payer... |
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Title: Re: Healthcare pushback... Post by raydawg on 07/19/17 at 14:26:26 Well a good start would be for folks like you to quit the partisan bullchit and QUIT toying with people's lives because you hate someone or something. When you understand that, we might have a chance to better ALL of us ::) |
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Title: Re: Healthcare pushback... Post by verslagen1 on 07/19/17 at 14:39:32 I'm beginning to think that states should be in control. The Feds just need to set the minimum requirements and interstate exchange. Leave the states to do what they want. Then the heathen state of california can support sex change while bible thumper states can restrict birth control. |
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Title: Re: Healthcare pushback... Post by Serowbot on 07/19/17 at 14:40:56 Somebody pee in your cornflakes this morning, Dawg?... |
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Title: Re: Healthcare pushback... Post by T And T Garage on 07/19/17 at 14:43:16 1204130E16030E15610 wrote:
Yep!! |
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Title: Re: Healthcare pushback... Post by MnSpring on 07/19/17 at 16:17:04 We all know, you can go to Mexico, and buy a pill, for .50 cents. Which the Same pill, in your neighborhood pharmacy, cost $5.00. The, solution is NOT, to Limit, Set, Make a law, or Restrict, the amount that company can sell that pill for. It is totally, their CHOICE. I think the solution, would be to, REMOVE, the, ‘Protection’, the Fed Gov GIVES. And simply make it a free market. A Free market, very fast will level out, the price. and if a Company’s price on something is to high, less people will buy it. Ever go to a mart-mart in one town, and see the price on the Exact Same item, different at the same brand of, mart-mart, in another town? I have even seen a, item, in the SAME Store, which is priced at one price in the, ‘Pet’ department, and another price in the, ‘Equine’ dept. Just bought a new revolver. Top of the Line, by a top company. 1,495.00 is the ‘factory’ list price. Very easy to find it at, 1,200.00 (+/-) I Paid, 1,050.00. SAME GUN, Same Specks, Same Details, Same Warranty. Some will pay, 5.00 for the pill, some will pay .50. The price on the, SAME, pair of shoes, is Hugely, different, at the, Mall Of America, or Runnings, (a farm store), in Hutchinson. and they are only about 1.5 hour drive apart. And they Both, set the price, THEY, chose, (not the government). Remove the, ‘Price Protection’, On, All things, that the, government, GIVES. And the market will sort itself out. Will their be ’some’ pitfalls. Sure. Just like a, popular, ‘flee & tick’, solution to apply to dogs and cats. A couple of companies here, make it. (And it, seemed, they all got together, and set their price) Then their was a, China, company, which made a package, that, ‘looked a lot like’ the other one, and you could buy it for 80% LESS. But it, KILLED, your Pet. Simply because, the, ‘buyers’, ONLY, looked at the price. (Very Unfortunate) Yet, the end result, the, quality product’s, made here, the Price came DOWN ! The, government, ‘Price Protection’, exists mostly in H.C. Products/Items/Care. The majority of other items, the price is what the market will bear. If it is too high, you sell less, if it is to low, you sell more, but don’t make money. How many, Products, that if you look at the specifications, ALL Have the SAME thing. Yet different Companies, and different prices. Do the same with H.C. |
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Title: Re: Healthcare pushback... Post by Serowbot on 07/19/17 at 16:24:04 As long as it's free market pills that kill me... ;D |
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Title: Re: Healthcare pushback... Post by raydawg on 07/19/17 at 17:09:03 283E29342C39342F5B0 wrote:
No, it's just that this tit for tat, bickering, etc, is right where those profiting off of this f'd system want us, so they can keep fleecing us. Try and be constructive once in a while and move to ideas. Example, we should be calling this effort on the ACA as fine tuning it to make repairs as, where needed.... NOT abolishing obama care, etc. |
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Title: Re: Healthcare pushback... Post by MShipley on 07/20/17 at 10:40:57 I just don't understand the logic, how does anyone look at what is going on with the VA Medical System and say "Yeah, that's what I want" put me on that plan. How is it that so many people can be so, so, so, so blind as to think the government can do Healthcare better. At this point there is nothing that can be done that will not require someone giving something up, like States losing money. There is no way to fix this by giving more, therefore we will never fix this. Personally I think Trump should just say OK we will leave your Healthcare alone. Let it implode. Then maybe we can get serious about Healthcare. We can make people happy again by giving them something when they have nothing to start with. |
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Title: Re: Healthcare pushback... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/20/17 at 10:46:09 Every really bad disaster Must be the fault of both sides, or it destroys one. Right now it's on the left. And Trump, to his credit, said Let them stew in their own juices. And the next day, New Idea. Gee, I wonder who whispered in his ear.. |
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Title: Re: Healthcare pushback... Post by T And T Garage on 07/20/17 at 11:16:40 564873726B777E621B0 wrote:
That's the "problem", it won't implode. It'll limp along - because to a fair degree, it works. |
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Title: Re: Healthcare pushback... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/20/17 at 15:50:50 Please, President Trump,don't TOUCH Bamicare. |
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Title: Re: Healthcare pushback... Post by MnSpring on 07/20/17 at 18:03:29 6F796E736B7E73681C0 wrote:
Is it a, Pill, you take, Which was prescribed by your Doctor, AFTER, you, Accurately described your problems, And, Completely described what was happening to you. And Kept in touch, with any changes in your body. Which, YOU, determined was, actually, what it was suppose to be? At the best price, you were willing to pay, (i.e. Free Market) Or, was it, Bought at the road side, from a trunk, in the, ‘dark’, side of town ? Which I suppose one could say, ‘free market’. More information needed. |
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Title: Re: Healthcare pushback... Post by T And T Garage on 07/21/17 at 05:52:51 OK, relax everyone. Our president has it all figured out. Read his great words on insurance: "As they get something, it gets tougher. Because politically, you can’t give it away. So pre-existing conditions are a tough deal. Because you are basically saying from the moment the insurance, you’re 21 years old, you start working and you’re paying $12 a year for insurance, and by the time you’re 70, you get a nice plan. Here’s something where you walk up and say, “I want my insurance.” It’s a very tough deal, but it is something that we’re doing a good job of." How beautifully elegant... how masterfully done....gee, he's such an intelligent man... pppffffftttt BWAAAHAAHAAHAAHAA Again... this is our effing president... seriously... WTF????? |
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Title: Re: Healthcare pushback... Post by Serowbot on 07/21/17 at 07:00:08 55764B686A71767F180 wrote:
More information needed. [/quote] You're very literal aren't you?... I'm not taking any pills... |
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Title: Re: Healthcare pushback... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/21/17 at 07:34:49 The idea of what a Free market is has been obscured behind the facade of Crony Capitalism. The disgusting nature of Crony capitalism and the obvious Stacked Deck that creates laws that make it difficult for the average person to prosper while legislation that protects and rewards those who are in the Right Place has been used as reason to call free market The Bad Guy. Nothing Wrong with free market. The problem is the corruption. We haven't Seen free market in any widespread use in society. It's targeted for destruction by the crony capitalists. |
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Title: Re: Healthcare pushback... Post by MnSpring on 07/21/17 at 10:35:28 7462756870656873070 wrote:
You're very literal aren't you?... I'm not taking any pills... [/quote] I used the word, ‘Pill’, because you used the word, ‘Pill’. The word, ‘Pill’, could, mean, many, other, different, and larger, things. Some would have interrupted that post, using the relevance to past posts, and, to the topic of this Subject. As not, ‘Literal’, (ONLY meaning a ‘Pill’) |
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