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Message started by MShipley on 07/25/17 at 10:51:48

Title: Yes, a relegion of peace
Post by MShipley on 07/25/17 at 10:51:48

http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/07/25/california-imam-caught-on-video-allegedly-encouraging-american-muslims-to-annihilate-jews/

Title: Re: Yes, a relegion of peace
Post by T And T Garage on 07/25/17 at 11:02:50

Let's not forget - the westboro baptist church is what all Christians follow. They all want to line up outside servicemen's funerals and blame the gays.... right?

See the problem there M?

Title: Re: Yes, a relegion of peace
Post by pg on 07/25/17 at 11:09:52

475956575A475C41330 wrote:

Let's not forget - the westboro baptist church is what all Christians follow. They all want to line up outside servicemen's funerals and blame the gays.... right?

See the problem there M?

Title: Re: Yes, a relegion of peace
Post by WebsterMark on 07/25/17 at 11:12:49

Westboro members haven't blown themselves up in pizza parlors full of kids.
They've not set a backpack with a ball bearing bomb next to an 8 year old watching his mom race.
They've not thrown gays off rooftops. They've not locked people in metal cages and lowered them into water.
They've not beheaded people on TV.

Westboro have done nothing of consequence other than give American hating, socialistic, soft communist liberals like yourself a red herring to toss around now and then.

Title: Re: Yes, a relegion of peace
Post by T And T Garage on 07/25/17 at 11:17:30

1205030F0010620 wrote:

[quote author=475956575A475C41330 link=1501005108/0#1 date=1501005770]Let's not forget - the westboro baptist church is what all Christians follow. They all want to line up outside servicemen's funerals and blame the gays.... right?

See the problem there M?

They can't hold a candle to the Muslims.

This is part of the list of killings in the name of Islam maintained by TheReligionofPeace.com. Most of these incidents are terror attacks. A handful are honor killings or Sharia executions.

During the past 30 days, there were 139 Islamic attacks in 20 countries, in which 970 people were killed and 798 injured.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks/attacks.aspx?Yr=Last30

See the problem there....

Best regards,[/quote]

Um, I'm not defending the extremists here.... get that straight.

However, if you equate every muslim with one, then it's no different than calling all Christians hate mongers.

If you want to defend the westboro baptist church - have at it... lol . I don't know one single (sane) Christian that would back them.

Title: Re: Yes, a relegion of peace
Post by T And T Garage on 07/25/17 at 11:19:42

615354454253447B57445D360 wrote:

As I said above - I'm not defending the extremists here.

But if you equate every Muslim with the actions of extremists, then you have to admit that every Christian feels the way that the westboro baptist church feels.

Understand?

Title: Re: Yes, a relegion of peace
Post by MShipley on 07/25/17 at 11:28:36

Not even close to being the same.

One claims that a specific act is a sin and voices there opinion through protest, the other calls for the extermination of an entire race of people and by the way is guilty of acting on that.

Westboro, harmless idiots
Islam, dangerous idiots that have killed unknown numbers in the name of their God.

No, not even a close comparison.

PS, most Christian like myself are offended when people that do not know what they are talking about compare them with Westboro Baptist. They are NOT what all Christians follow. If you knew anything about the subject you would know that.

How is it that your Morales are so offended when someone uses the word Pus**e, but when someone talks of genocide you make excuses?

Title: Re: Yes, a relegion of peace
Post by verslagen1 on 07/25/17 at 13:02:52

You show me a WB protest I'll show you a gathering of Catholics Christians and Jews in counter protest.

You show me a Muslim extremest protest and I'll show you a lot of dead people.

Title: Re: Yes, a relegion of peace
Post by T And T Garage on 07/25/17 at 13:04:42

7C625958415D5448310 wrote:

Not even close to being the same.

One claims that a specific act is a sin and voices there opinion through protest, the other calls for the extermination of an entire race of people and by the way is guilty of acting on that.

Westboro, harmless idiots
Islam, dangerous idiots that have killed unknown numbers in the name of their God.

No, not even a close comparison.

PS, most Christian like myself are offended when people that do not know what they are talking about compare them with Westboro Baptist. They are NOT what all Christians follow. If you knew anything about the subject you would know that.

LMAO!!! THAT IS MY POINT EXACTLY!!! How can you not see your own hypocrisy??

You seem to think that ALL Muslims endorse the worst of the extremists... are you really that ignorant???

How is it that your Morales are so offended when someone uses the word Pus**e, but when someone talks of genocide you make excuses?

My morals are just fine thanks - I only have a problem with that when MY PRESIDENT SAYS IT. Any of this sinking in?....

Title: Re: Yes, a relegion of peace
Post by MnSpring on 07/25/17 at 13:10:00

So, did a little ‘look’ up.
Population of the US, and population in Jail, in the US.
(Keep in mind, the total Pop in the US, INCLUDES, the # of people in Jail)

Total USA Pop. 326,632,957 / 325,517,120 / 324,485,597
So roughly ave, 325 Million.
Now for Prison.
1,526,800 / 1,576,124 / 1,870,423 / 2,220,300
So So roughly ave. 1,7 Million
(Including the, ULTRA LIBERAL Site, which want a whole bunch released)

That TOTAL, is about, ONE HALF a %, of people in the US, are in Jail.

Even going to another ultra-Liberal site,
they said, 716 out of every 100,000
What’s That, .7 % ????

So let’s say it is, ‘LESS THAN 0.8%’
(Really Liberal now)

Of, Muslim Islamic ‘religion’, refugees,
the % quoted, (that commit appalling crimes)
is between 6% and 12%..
(Low, ultra-Liberal, high, Conservative)

SO Conclusion, about 0.8% of USA population is in Jail.
and about, 8.0% of refugees, commit Crimes.

But adequate, ‘vetting’, is:
“Are you a Nice person” ?

Of Course, not all Muslims, just as all Germans, Irish, etc.
are BAD.
But you want, someone, who is MORE, Likely to commit a crime, in, YOUR HOME. (Your Country)
Without ‘vetting’ ???

Heck, if a, upstanding UK, citizen, wanted to come to the US, to immigrate.
and they had records, of the last 40 Years, of their life in the UK.
And everything was, Perfect.
they would have a 10+ Times HARDER path.
than a ’refugee’.

Title: Re: Yes, a relegion of peace
Post by T And T Garage on 07/25/17 at 13:15:57

2D3E2928373A3C3E356A5B0 wrote:

You show me a WB protest I'll show you a gathering of Catholics Christians and Jews in counter protest.

You show me a Muslim extremest protest and I'll show you a lot of dead people.

Have a look...

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/muslim-peace-march-cologne-germany-islamist-not-with-us-isis-terror-attacks-love-for-all-hatred-for-a7795481.html

Although not a protest per se - but isis was right there and they (true Muslims) didn't back down:
http://www.occupy.com/article/20-million-muslims-march-against-isis-and-mainstream-media-completely-ignores-it#sthash.34PBd5Wc.dpbs

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/750142/ISIS-protest-Afghanistan-Muslims-Islamic-State-terror-attacks

http://www.thelocal.se/galleries/news/kurds-protest-isis-in-stockholm

Lots of condemnation:

http://ing.org/global-condemnations-of-isis-isil/

So yeah... whether you believe it or not, true Muslims don't support the actions of the extremists.

Title: Re: Yes, a relegion of peace
Post by WebsterMark on 07/25/17 at 17:18:46

But if you equate every Muslim with the actions of extremists, then you have to admit that every Christian feels the way that the westboro baptist church feels.

No one's done that. But there's a common denominator in terror attacks that can't be ignored, by sane people anyway.

Title: Re: Yes, a relegion of peace
Post by T And T Garage on 07/25/17 at 17:43:46

506265747362754A66756C070 wrote:

Are you really that ignorant?? - I'm being serious....

Yeah, there are Muslim extremists - just as there Christian extremists. Muslims have isis, Christians have westboro, the guy who killed an abortion doctor, the guy who tried to blow up a Sikh temple, the nazis, the KKK, the people's temple, david koresh, heaven's gate, etc., etc...

See the problem when you equate an entire religion to the worst of its members?

Title: Re: Yes, a relegion of peace
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/25/17 at 18:10:45

guy who killed an abortion doctor, the guy who tried to blow up a Sikh temple, the nazis, the KKK, the people's temple, david koresh, heaven's gate, etc., etc...

Next time you start to Reach
Try not to reach so far up your A55.

Title: Re: Yes, a relegion of peace
Post by pg on 07/25/17 at 18:13:28

6F717E7F726F74691B0 wrote:

Title: Re: Yes, a relegion of peace
Post by T And T Garage on 07/25/17 at 18:18:24

4D5A5C505F4F3D0 wrote:

[quote author=6F717E7F726F74691B0 link=1501005108/0#12 date=1501029826]
Are you really that ignorant?? - I'm being serious....

Yeah, there are Muslim extremists - just as there Christian extremists. Muslims have isis, Christians have westboro, the guy who killed an abortion doctor, the guy who tried to blow up a Sikh temple, the nazis, the KKK, the people's temple, david koresh, heaven's gate, etc., etc...

The Nazis have been gone for decades, the Klan has had no power for decades, Koresh has been gone for 24 years, your argument has no merit. These Muslims are killing people on a weekly if not daily basis world wide.

Best regards,
[/quote]

Oh.. I didn't realize there was a statute of limitations on evil...LOL

But to be clear, they're not Muslims, they're extremists... remember?

Just like westboro is Christian extremist.... or aren't they?...

Title: Re: Yes, a relegion of peace
Post by pg on 07/25/17 at 18:26:12

627C73727F627964160 wrote:

But to be clear, they're not Muslims, they're extremists... remember?

Just like westboro is Christian extremist.... or aren't they?...

To be clear they kill in the Name of Islam; consequently, that makes them Muslim.

Westboro are some real low-lifes, but all they do is protest.

Best regards,

Title: Re: Yes, a relegion of peace
Post by T And T Garage on 07/25/17 at 18:28:35

647375797666140 wrote:

[quote author=627C73727F627964160 link=1501005108/15#15 date=1501031904]

But to be clear, they're not Muslims, they're extremists... remember?

Just like westboro is Christian extremist.... or aren't they?...

To be clear they kill in the Name of Islam; consequently, that makes them Muslim.

Westboro are some real low-lifes, but all they do is protest.

OK then, so what you're saying is all Christians are low life's?

Best regards,[/quote]

Title: Re: Yes, a relegion of peace
Post by WebsterMark on 07/25/17 at 18:30:11

The equivalent to what you're saying is because a one in a million BB gun shot killed someone, you're putting it in the same class as a 9mm.

Title: Re: Yes, a relegion of peace
Post by pg on 07/25/17 at 18:30:54

3B252A2B263B203D4F0 wrote:

OK then, so what you're saying is all Christians are low life's?

Best regards,

Did I type that?

Best regards,

Title: Re: Yes, a relegion of peace
Post by T And T Garage on 07/25/17 at 18:35:58

4354525E5141330 wrote:

[quote author=3B252A2B263B203D4F0 link=1501005108/15#17 date=1501032515]
OK then, so what you're saying is all Christians are low life's?

Best regards,

Title: Re: Yes, a relegion of peace
Post by T And T Garage on 07/25/17 at 18:39:57

655750414657407F534059320 wrote:

The equivalent to what you're saying is because a one in a million BB gun shot killed someone, you're putting it in the same class as a 9mm.

LOL... what???

Try to understand this....

If you equate all Muslims to isis, then you equate all Christians to the likes of westboro

Title: Re: Yes, a relegion of peace
Post by verslagen1 on 07/25/17 at 19:07:12

273936373A273C21530 wrote:

[quote author=2D3E2928373A3C3E356A5B0 link=1501005108/0#7 date=1501012972]You show me a WB protest I'll show you a gathering of Catholics Christians and Jews in counter protest.

You show me a Muslim extremest protest and I'll show you a lot of dead people.

Title: Re: Yes, a relegion of peace
Post by pg on 07/25/17 at 19:33:34

170906070A170C11630 wrote:

[quote author=4354525E5141330 link=1501005108/15#19 date=1501032654][quote author=3B252A2B263B203D4F0 link=1501005108/15#17 date=1501032515]
OK then, so what you're saying is all Christians are low life's?

Best regards,

Title: Re: Yes, a relegion of peace
Post by MnSpring on 07/25/17 at 19:34:29

Just wondering.
If one picked, at total random,
(Kinna like a well shuffled deck of cards)
And Neither of these people are, ‘Vetted’.

A Person, to come into your house.
And Live with you. (Your Country)

Would one pick, a person,
that has a 0.8% chance to STEEL, something from you.

Or would you pick a person that has a 8.0% chance,
of KILLING YOU ?

Those odds, in a total game of chance,
(if the only choice),
are rather significant.

8% vs 80%

(Can one understand a simple movement of the decimal point)
Oh Wait, 2 + 2, Can = 5
By the, 'new math', and where a person is from.

Title: Re: Yes, a relegion of peace
Post by T And T Garage on 07/26/17 at 05:45:33

7760666A6575070 wrote:

[quote author=170906070A170C11630 link=1501005108/15#20 date=1501032958][quote author=4354525E5141330 link=1501005108/15#19 date=1501032654][quote author=3B252A2B263B203D4F0 link=1501005108/15#17 date=1501032515]
OK then, so what you're saying is all Christians are low life's?

Best regards,

Did I type that?

Best regards,[/quote]

To be clear they condemn in the Name of Jesus; consequently, that makes them Christian.

So.... are all Christians like those of westboro? If not, then not all Muslims are like isis...

How can you not see that???

[/quote]

By your reasoning it would be acceptable to let the Klan reorganize and undertake their old ways because not all of them are bad....

Best regards,[/quote]

No... that's not it at all. If you equate all Muslims to the worst of them, then you do the same to Christians.

But on a separate note.... what do you mean by "undertake their old ways"? Are you saying that they're now somehow not a bigoted hate group?? LOL

Title: Re: Yes, a relegion of peace
Post by WebsterMark on 07/26/17 at 05:59:12

LOL... what???

Try to understand this....

If you equate all Muslims to isis, then you equate all Christians to the likes of westboro

Try to understand this....
No one (of any significance that is) equates ALL MUSLIMS TO ISIS. NO ONE.
The only one equating everyone in one group to another is YOU.

Title: Re: Yes, a relegion of peace
Post by T And T Garage on 07/26/17 at 06:20:01

162423323524330C20332A410 wrote:

Oh? Here's a post from pg on this thread:
"They can't hold a candle to the Muslims."

You're right - no one of any significance... (your words, not mine)

Title: Re: Yes, a relegion of peace
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/26/17 at 07:09:45

The pretense that because ALL Muslims are not killing and raping and destroying Europe somehow means that, WHAT? Exactly WHAT?
Just What are you saying?
We should import more?
Because some idiots CALL themselves Christians and then go be A55holes , somehow THAT translates to Muslims get a free pass?
What do you WANT?

Another question he can't answer.

Title: Re: Yes, a relegion of peace
Post by MnSpring on 07/26/17 at 18:57:50

Hear ya go T&T,

(Just grabbed a piece of bread, gonna let it dry out, then toss it over the bridge tomorrow, ’sometime’)

Do your, ‘research’, and answer this.

What Percent of, people, want to KILL You ?
(Completely Disregard Skin Color, or Country of, Origin)
AND, you can include ALL the variants, or spin offs, of a major kind..

Christians:
Jewish:
Shinto:
Taoism:
Confucianism;
Hinduism:
Buddhism:
Islam:

Do your WORK,
and Report, on the % of Each Religion,
that HAS, DONE, ‘I WANT TO KILL YOU”
(Or throw you off the roof, or stone you in the street, or cut off your cliit)

See what you come up with.
And here are the Rules.
NO SPIN, NO Quoting the, ’Stellar’ ‘Fact Finding’ ‘HONEST’, places like, CNN, Yahoo, Mother Jones.
(The above list, CNN, Yahoo, Mother Jones, is a joke, have to explain this to you, because you just don’t understand it)
No Quoting, what was said, 500 + Years ago.
What are, TODAY'S, percentages ?

And JUST BECAUSE, I Know you will try to, ’SPIN’, and NOT answer.
I, do NOT, say, all, ‘Muslims’ are Bad.
HOWEVER, It is, PROVEN, BY FACT, that, the vast, VAST, Majority of Muslims, Follow, ISLAM.

So tell us, ALL, about, ALL the religions,
who have said, ‘I WILL KILL YOU”
ALL of them !!!!!!!!!!