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Message started by T And T Garage on 08/17/17 at 08:52:58

Title: My deleted post....
Post by T And T Garage on 08/17/17 at 08:52:58

Not sure why, but my post was deleted....

But here's the gist:

Just for a moment, take out the violence of Charlottesville this weekend. For the sake of argument, let's pretend that no one was hurt or killed, OK?

Now, let's look at the message, shall we? Do the nazis have a right to march? Absolutely. Now, answer this question - are they right? (Don't even try to say "I don't care, it's their right" - that's basically saying they are right.) Do you agree with their message?

Now hey, if you're a white supremacist, then you'll agree with them - if that's the case, you do you and own up to it. If you're not, then the only answer is no, they are not right and people should rally against them (just like they did this weekend)

Instead of pointing fingers about the violence - which, by the way, hasn't been determined who threw the first punch - look at what these groups stand for.

Title: Re: My deleted post....
Post by T And T Garage on 08/17/17 at 08:56:46

Oh, and here's a BEAUTIFUL before and after of the big bad neo-con:

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P54sP0Nlngg[/media]

Then look at this - talk about snowflake....

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQUrWlraj_4[/media]

I LOVE KARMA!!

Title: Re: My deleted post....
Post by oldNslow on 08/17/17 at 09:54:59

Quote:

Not sure why, but my post was deleted..

Good question TT. It looks as though the whole conversation re Charlottesville has mysteriously disappeared.

Anybody got an explanation.?

Title: Re: My deleted post....
Post by WebsterMark on 08/17/17 at 10:23:10

Title: Re: My deleted post....
Post by T And T Garage on 08/17/17 at 10:34:05

784A4D5C5B4A5D624E5D442F0 wrote:

I was tired of d!ckweed TT calling everyone who doesn't buy his BS a racist and told him to call me that to my face which of course he would never do. I'm guessing someone thought that was out of line or little TT needed saving.

LOL - dickweed? What are you, 12?

But anyway, no one I know of on this forum agrees with the core principles of neo-nazis. I don't.

Wow - you finally admit you don't! Congrats.

But the media (and TT) have latched on to the ridiculous notion that Trump does and they will burn country down trying to prove that lie.

If you don't stand against them, you stand with them. Our president is a moron of epic proportions. He has zero tact and empathy. In some ways, he's WORSE than a nazi - he's a demagogue.

The truth is the media, and again TT, have a core ideology far closer to antifa than anyone on here has towards white supremacy.

Yes, I do! I admit that I am anti-fascist. Aren't you? Shouldn't we all be against fascism???

I would ask the question/make the statement that if you're even in a little way in favor of pulling down historical monuments you find offensive, then you stand with antifa.

I stand with all anti fascists. It's not a tough call. Be clear, I don't agree with the violence that occurs - I don't think you need to incite any violence. But I believe in the MESSAGE.
My question to you would be - why WON'T you?

On a separate note - all these "wonderful statues" you talk about...
you should find out when the bulk of them were erected. It's a fact that MOST of them went up after reconstruction - into the early 1900's. You think that's a coincidence???

Title: Re: My deleted post....
Post by WebsterMark on 08/17/17 at 10:44:34

Fine, you've laid out who you stand with. Go put your little black ski mask on and join in the march beating people up, burning cars and everything else your buddies in antifa do. Just because ypu won't swing doesn't mean you're not a part of them. I'll look for you at the next anti-Trump rally standing by as your buddy smashes some vets face whose wearing a MAGA hat.

Title: Re: My deleted post....
Post by T And T Garage on 08/17/17 at 10:47:09

162423323524330C20332A410 wrote:

No, I don't participate in violent protests.

I simply stand against fascism.

Why don't you?

Title: Re: My deleted post....
Post by WebsterMark on 08/17/17 at 11:21:14

You stand with ANTIFA, the group who've beaten people and destroyed property all over this nation.

Title: Re: My deleted post....
Post by raydawg on 08/17/17 at 11:21:40

I have stated many times already, but it seems folks just like bolstering their made up minds, searching out and looking for affirmation.

This board is not even a blip on a radar screen.

The morons who fell on Charlottesville under the banner of Unite the Right, do not even come close to the folks I know who I call "on the right".

Because they called themselves that, does not give it any validity, no more so than saying Muslim Terrorist is ALL Muslims, or the thrust of the religions teachings.

But of course, you have folks play this up.....
That is the question that needs to be answered.

And it will be in midterms.

The vast majority of folks I talk to at work, an extremely diverse group, fact is, I am blessed I have such a wealth of different races, backgrounds, etc, to get real input from, not the goldmine of deceit from a media, etc, that have proved over and over again to be agenda driven, disingenuous, and just flat out wrong....

They just shrug off all this media driven hype.

Life is lived best in person, not on a message board, or living on a website, etc. thinking that is what real life, and what real people care about.

We'll see in midterms were folks are.
Hopefully, and I have a lot of faith, folks will put adults in DC.
The partisanship is the cancer, the buffoons who went to Charlottesville, the results, as in Berkeley, Oregon, etc.....
Folks that act out with violence are sick, plain and simple, they lack and rationality, and those who try and use them to promote their own beliefs and agenda, are complicit, and sick themselves.

Title: Re: My deleted post....
Post by T And T Garage on 08/17/17 at 11:35:00

645651404756417E524158330 wrote:

You stand with ANTIFA, the group who've beaten people and destroyed property all over this nation.

I don't condone violence.

I stand against fascism.

Why is that so hard to understand?

Title: Re: My deleted post....
Post by WebsterMark on 08/17/17 at 12:20:04

140A050409140F12600 wrote:

[quote author=645651404756417E524158330 link=1502985178/0#7 date=1502994074]You stand with ANTIFA, the group who've beaten people and destroyed property all over this nation.

I don't condone violence.

I stand against fascism.

Why is that so hard to understand?

[/quote]

I'm using your logic. You stand with ANTIFA who commit violent acts regularly.

Title: Re: My deleted post....
Post by T And T Garage on 08/17/17 at 13:17:49

566463727564734C60736A010 wrote:

[quote author=140A050409140F12600 link=1502985178/0#9 date=1502994900][quote author=645651404756417E524158330 link=1502985178/0#7 date=1502994074]You stand with ANTIFA, the group who've beaten people and destroyed property all over this nation.

I don't condone violence.

I stand against fascism.

Why is that so hard to understand?

[/quote]

I'm using your logic. You stand with ANTIFA who commit violent acts regularly.
[/quote]

LMAO - you're hilarious and so oblivious!!

At its core, antifa is an anti fascist group. I don't agree with the violence any more than I agree with our country going to war.

However, its MESSAGE and our country's MESSAGE is what I believe in.

Like I said before - take away the violence on BOTH sides. What you're left with is MESSAGE.

If you don't understand that, there's no helping you.

Though antifa are often treated as a new force in American politics since the rise of Trump, the anti-fascist tradition stretches back a century. The first antifascists fought Benito Mussolini’s Blackshirts in the Italian countryside, exchanged fire with Adolf Hitler’s Brownshirts in the taverns and alleyways of Munich and defended Madrid from Francisco Franco’s insurgent nationalist army. Beyond Europe, anti-fascism became a model of resistance for the Chinese against Japanese imperialism during World War II and resistance to Latin American dictatorships.

Modern antifa politics can be traced to resistance to waves of xenophobia and the emergence of white power skinhead culture in Britain in the 1970s and ’80s. It also has its roots in self-defense groups organized by revolutionaries and migrants in Germany, as the fall of the Berlin Wall unleashed a violent neo-Nazi backlash.

In the United States and Canada, activists of the Anti-Racist Action Network (ARA) doggedly pursued Klansmen, neo-Nazis and other assorted white supremacists from the late 1980s into the 2000s. Their motto was simple but bold: “We go where they go.” If Nazi skinheads handed out leaflets at a punk show in Indiana about how “Hitler was right,” ARA was there to show them the door. If fascists plastered downtown Alberta’s Edmonton with racist posters, ARA tore them down and replaced them with anti-racist slogans.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/made-by-history/wp/2017/08/16/who-are-the-antifa/?utm_term=.c34d333357d3

Title: Re: My deleted post....
Post by oldNslow on 08/17/17 at 13:44:47

56686965776B6A040 wrote:

Quote:

Not sure why, but my post was deleted..

Good question TT. It looks as though the whole conversation re Charlottesville has mysteriously disappeared.

Anybody got an explanation.?

Web wrote:

{quote]
I was tired of d!ckweed TT calling everyone who doesn't buy his BS a racist and told him to call me that to my face which of course he would never do. I'm guessing someone thought that was out of line or little TT needed saving[/quote]

So, just so I understand how this works. Someone says something in a thread that, I presume, one of the Mods feels is a violation of protocol, and EVERYTHING disappears. Even the posts of those of us, and I include myself in that group, who didn't engage in whatever it was that pissed off whomever deleted the conversation. Everyone gets punished, not just the offender? Or is there some secret mechanism that I'm unaware of, by which someone,other than a moderator, who feels aggrieved can do this?

When the discussion gets heated, and stuff gets out of hand, and it surely does from time to time, I thought that only the offending posts would be censured. Not the entire conversation. Or am I missing something?

Title: Re: My deleted post....
Post by MnSpring on 08/17/17 at 16:46:54

734D4C40524E4F210 wrote:

So, just so I understand how this works. Someone says something in a thread that, I presume, one of the Mods feels is a violation of protocol, and EVERYTHING disappears. Even the posts of those of us, and I include myself in that group, who didn't engage in whatever it was that pissed off whomever deleted the conversation. Everyone gets punished, not just the offender? Or is there some secret mechanism that I'm unaware of, by which someone,other than a moderator, who feels aggrieved can do this? When the discussion gets heated, and stuff gets out of hand, and it surely does from time to time, I thought that only the offending posts would be censured. Not the entire conversation. Or am I missing something?

“…Everyone gets punished, not just the offender?…”

A-Yep. It is the ’Snowflake’, way.
A Newly Minted, F.S.T. Instructor in MN, did something,
REALLY STUPID.
And a, ’New’, commander of the F.S.T. Program.
(The last one was, ‘forced’ to, ’retire’)
Sent out a memo, to, 2,500 - 3,000 active volunteer instructors.
PUNISHING, ALL, 3,000 of them,
NOT, Just, the Offender !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh for the rest of the story,
The, ‘Old’ , In Charge Person, (Who was FORCED to Retire),
sent out a Quarterly 10 Page Newsletter, for the last 20 years.
with tips, Ideas, thoughts, ‘Who did what’, and why, Etc. Etc, Etc.

The, ’new’ one, haven’t heard a PEEP, out of him, in 3 years !
Except to, Admonish, Punish, ALL the Volunteer, F.S.T. Instructors,
for what ONE PERSON did !!!!!!!

Again, it is just the, ’Snowflake’, way.

Title: Re: My deleted post....
Post by WebsterMark on 08/18/17 at 05:27:54

I'll accept the blame for that. There's only one leftist on this forum so by default, he's become the focal point.

And unlike said leftist, I loath the idea of censorship so I'll refrain from anything that will rile up his protectors to the point they feel the need to throw a giant security blanket over the whole thread.

Apologies to Mnspring and oldnslow.

Title: Re: My deleted post....
Post by T And T Garage on 08/18/17 at 06:01:59

142621303726310E223128430 wrote:

I'll accept the blame for that. There's only one leftist on this forum so by default, he's become the focal point.

LOL - that drives you nuts, don't it? Wow, you're a child.....

And unlike said leftist, I loath the idea of censorship so I'll refrain from anything that will rile up his protectors to the point they feel the need to throw a giant security blanket over the whole thread.

Apologies to Mnspring and oldnslow.

So web.... what do you mean, you'll "accept the blame"?

Title: Re: My deleted post....
Post by oldNslow on 08/18/17 at 06:29:57

083A3D2C2B3A2D123E2D345F0 wrote:

No need to apologise to me. If you, me or anyone else posts something that the Moderators deem inappropriate, that's between whoever did that and the Mods. My question was actually directed at them. So I'll repeat it in hopes of a response. Why does the ENTIRE CONVERSATION get sh*t canned, instead of just the offending post(s).?

I'd like to know who was responsible, and what his reasoning was.

Title: Re: My deleted post....
Post by WebsterMark on 08/18/17 at 08:29:19

Don't recall word for word but pretty sure the gist of it was I can't stand cowards calling people racist so I told him to call me that to my face.

I would really hurt the little coward but probably not a good idea to start the habit of typing stuff like that.

Title: Re: My deleted post....
Post by Serowbot on 08/18/17 at 09:16:48

As far as I'm aware, the thread was not deleted.
Not by me, and no mention of any deletions in the Moderator section.
Perhaps a site glitch, or posting error,.. else we were hacked.
I'm leaving you guys to police yourselves.

Enjoy your freedom...

"With freedom comes responsibility" - Eleanor Roosevelt

Serow

Title: Re: My deleted post....
Post by oldNslow on 08/18/17 at 09:38:30

7066716C74616C77030 wrote:

Russians ???

Dang. Them bast*rds are everywhere !!

Title: Re: My deleted post....
Post by MShipley on 08/18/17 at 10:12:11

One of the problems in this country is we have redefined the word tolerance, tolerance presupposes that people disagree but they still love each other and live in peace.

This is no longer a viable expression. Antifa has the right to their beliefs, the neo-nazis have a right to their beliefs, BLM has a right to their beliefs. Conservatives have a right to their beliefs just like Progressives do. Hate speech is only that because someone does not like it.

In our society today there is NO TOLERANCE (despite what the left claims). Read Antifas manifesto on their website. They want to destroy all things based around capitalism, all things white and basically want America to no longer exist. THEY ARE Communist, Marxist, Fascist.

Now we know that the Neo-nazis will do anything to get their way, but we also know that the same is true about ANTIFA. Both of these groups are hate groups. Both will tread on the rights of anyone that remotely gets in there way. It's kind of like the Marxist battling the Fascist. You know what doesn't win? Freedom!

A society that is FREE has to allow people to have different views and that is no longer true in this country. Once again I point to Progressivism as the institution that says IT's OK to crush people as long as you feel you are RIGHT. But who defines that? Why does ANTIFA get to pull down statues and beat people up simply cause they don't like it. This is exactly what the Progressives hate the Neo-nazis for.

Sorry but as I have said before right wing conservatives have NO SUCH HATE GROUPS associated with their worldview. All the hate groups are born out of Marxist, Fascist, Progressive world views.

Title: Re: My deleted post....
Post by MnSpring on 08/18/17 at 10:19:04

No need to apologize to me either.

I was just recounting, how, ’some’ people, throw everybody in the same basket.
(Especially if they don’t say the ’SAME’ things as they do)

Didn’t even Mention,
a post a while back, which was Titled, ‘Censorship”
WAS CENSORED !!!!!!!

And: As far as I'm aware, the thread was not deleted.
Perhaps a site glitch, or posting error,.. else we were hacked.

Think we all have heard, something very like that, before !
Especially the words, "…As far as I’m aware…”

Title: Re: My deleted post....
Post by MnSpring on 08/18/17 at 10:37:34

4553445941545942360 wrote:

"With freedom comes responsibility" - Eleanor Roosevelt
Serow

I am lacking your understanding, of how,
"Responsibility of Freedom",
has Anything to do, with,
Whether, when, by who, how, a Thread, may/or not, have been Deleted?

Please explain.

I understand, (or have been taught to)
That, 'Freedom', means.
That, I select which pants to wear.
I select which color, to paint something.
I select what, 'toys' to purchase.
I select what recreation I enjoy.
Etc, etc, etc

Lack of, 'Freedom', means, someone ELSE,
Tell's me what to do !

Like a Deleting of a Thread.
Which, (to me), says:
"You will think the way, I tell you to do"

Title: Re: My deleted post....
Post by Serowbot on 08/18/17 at 10:45:55

Wear black...

Title: Re: My deleted post....
Post by T And T Garage on 08/18/17 at 10:49:23

675552434455427D51425B300 wrote:

Bring it little man....

Title: Re: My deleted post....
Post by T And T Garage on 08/18/17 at 10:50:18

2D3B2C31293C312A5E0 wrote:

Nor was it Dave.... that leaves one person.....
vers??

Title: Re: My deleted post....
Post by T And T Garage on 08/18/17 at 12:22:05

435D66677E626B770E0 wrote:

One of the problems in this country is we have redefined the word tolerance, tolerance presupposes that people disagree but they still love each other and live in peace.

This is no longer a viable expression. Antifa has the right to their beliefs, the neo-nazis have a right to their beliefs, BLM has a right to their beliefs. Conservatives have a right to their beliefs just like Progressives do. Hate speech is only that because someone does not like it.

In our society today there is NO TOLERANCE (despite what the left claims). Read Antifas manifesto on their website. They want to destroy all things based around capitalism, all things white and basically want America to no longer exist. THEY ARE Communist, Marxist, Fascist.

Now we know that the Neo-nazis will do anything to get their way, but we also know that the same is true about ANTIFA. Both of these groups are hate groups. Both will tread on the rights of anyone that remotely gets in there way. It's kind of like the Marxist battling the Fascist. You know what doesn't win? Freedom!

A society that is FREE has to allow people to have different views and that is no longer true in this country. Once again I point to Progressivism as the institution that says IT's OK to crush people as long as you feel you are RIGHT. But who defines that? Why does ANTIFA get to pull down statues and beat people up simply cause they don't like it. This is exactly what the Progressives hate the Neo-nazis for.

Sorry but as I have said before right wing conservatives have NO SUCH HATE GROUPS associated with their worldview. All the hate groups are born out of Marxist, Fascist, Progressive world views.

Are you joking??? I'm not sure how you get out of your house everyday with that kind of MASSIVE denial on your shoulders.

The klan, white nationalists, the alt-right are ALL right wing hate groups. They are NOT progressive. They are NOT left wing. When david duke endorses you, that's the surest sign that nazis and the kkk support your side. They sure don't support Bernie Sanders or hillary or ANY democrats...

I find it funny that you lump fascism in with progressives. Hey, why not call pumpkins apples, or puppies kittens. LOL!!!

But to speak directly to your tolerance claims - you're on the wrong side of history.

The should be NO TOLERANCE for facism, racism, bigotry, hate speech, etc.

Lastly, where'd you see the website for antifa that says they're against capitalism? Please put the link up.

Title: Re: My deleted post....
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/18/17 at 13:47:20

Bullshit, Duke endorsing the Not Crazy doesn't mean Trump is a hater.

Like me, my options were
Insane
Or Trump
I chose trump

Title: Re: My deleted post....
Post by T And T Garage on 08/18/17 at 15:28:25

544A454449544F52200 wrote:

[quote author=2D3B2C31293C312A5E0 link=1502985178/15#18 date=1503073008]As far as I'm aware, the thread was not deleted.
Not by me, and no mention of any deletions in the Moderator section.
Perhaps a site glitch, or posting error,.. else we were hacked.
I'm leaving you guys to police yourselves.

Enjoy your freedom...

"With freedom comes responsibility" - Eleanor Roosevelt

Serow

Nor was it Dave.... that leaves one person.....
vers??
[/quote]

Oh well... I guess we'll never know, huh?........

(I wonder how one of the righties might have reacted to a deleted post?.... nah, I'm sure they'd be totally cool...)

Title: Re: My deleted post....
Post by Serowbot on 08/18/17 at 16:50:27

I'm sure.. :-X

Title: Re: My deleted post....
Post by WebsterMark on 08/19/17 at 06:33:34

Worth the read.

http://blog.dilbert.com/post/164297628606/how-to-know-youre-in-a-mass-hysteria-bubble

Title: Re: My deleted post....
Post by T And T Garage on 08/19/17 at 08:25:34

063433222534231C30233A510 wrote:

Worth the read.

http://blog.dilbert.com/post/164297628606/how-to-know-youre-in-a-mass-hysteria-bubble

No, it really wasn't.

There is no mass hysteria, although you and the rest of tweety's supporters would like to blame it on that.

The fact you can't seem to get through your thick skull is that - our president is an idiot.

We know full well he's not a nazi sympathizer. We know he's not an anti-Semite. He's just dumb. He can't manage the job he's in. He's an embarrassment. Look at his crumbling cabinet! It's not "mass hysteria" that firing these idiots, it's these idiots.

No one in his position should EVER had said that there are "good people on both sides". No, there aren't ANY good people on the side of the nazis - NONE.

But our president is such a demagogue. All that matters to him is him.

It's not mass hysteria - it's reality and we are all watching it unfold before our eyes.

Pay attention - it's gonna get worse.

Title: Re: My deleted post....
Post by MnSpring on 08/19/17 at 08:44:52

WOW, That is SO Spot ON

One of the best comments was:
“1984 was a Fiction Book, NOT, a Instruction Manual”

It so reminded me of a malady called Hypothermia.

It is something taught by ALL, F.S.T. and Many Many other Classes.
Which is a Standard, in Cold Country.
It is something, that if you have it, you don’t know it.
(And it can happen to Anyone, who is caught un-aware, and un-prepared)
And only the people around you will know you have it,
And the ’teaching’, is mostly for them, to be able to take care of you.

Hypothermia; Is when a human Body gets to cold.
You, the affected, very early on, will know you are cold.
But, very soon after, if no help, you will die.

When you are with someone, and say, ‘I am cold’, THAT, is the trigger for other people to watch you.
They watch you, see how thin, blue, your lips are, watch your coordination, listen to your speech, etc.
You Shiver. You, (Should), know, it is NOW, time, to do something to get warmer.
You then start to Shiver, Violently, It is, TIME, NOW, That Second, for you, or someone with you to DO something.
Because the next Step, (If you are alone) Will be to LATE.
You ’STOP’, Shivering. (If you are alone. And or not done anything to reverse the effects), it it to late, you WILL Die.

If you are discovered, and helped, even in the last stages,
if properly warmed, you can recover.
But Everybody, that is EVERYBODY, that has recovered,
Only remembers, the last stage, where they were, ‘Violently Shivering’.

(shivering shows that the bodies heat regulation systems are still active.)
You Stop, ’Shriving’, your body is shutting down.

And their are 1,000’s+ of cases, of this happening.

Their are Many ways to avoid this, and proper ways to dress, and proper clothing, and proper awareness.
And that is the Goal, and the Reason, so Many, in so many fields, ’Teach’, so you Know, and Learn.

The parallels between, ‘Hypothermia’, and, ‘Mass Hysteria’.
Are SO, ’SPOT ON’ !!!!!

But of course, many won’t read:
http://blog.dilbert.com/post/164297628606/how-to-know-youre-in-a-mass-hysteria-bubble
Because, ‘It will never happen to them”.

Last night, Going out to dinner with a Cozen, (haven’t seen in 10 Years, She is in TX), with my Nephew and family.
Went to the house to change clothes. The Wife had, ‘Jeopardy’ TV show on.
Their are three, Collage Students, as competitors.
The screen shows a PHOTO, of a Crescent wrench, and Alex, DESCRIBES, the wrench.
AND No One, NOT ONE, buzzed in, to be able to say the word, ‘Crescent wrench’.

Na, “It will never happen to me”.

Title: Re: My deleted post....
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/19/17 at 08:48:15

I was shocked to see nobody knew what it was. I broke my buzzer button trying..

Title: Re: My deleted post....
Post by batman on 08/19/17 at 14:59:40

Only those made by crescent co .would be called a Crescent wrench, all others would be adjustable wrenches.

Title: Re: My deleted post....
Post by T And T Garage on 08/19/17 at 17:02:02

3A392C3539366C60580 wrote:

Only those made by crescent co .would be called a Crescent wrench, all others would be adjustable wrenches.

Huh?
:-?

Title: Re: My deleted post....
Post by MnSpring on 08/19/17 at 17:02:48

Batman;
this is NOT, any sort of admonishment, on your statement.

It is simply, to show a person that posts, Frequently here,
Who is WELL Known for his, ’Spin’, and ‘Changing’ the topic,
and Leaving OUT, ’the rest of the information’,
(Or IGNORING), the FACTS !

Yep, just like the word, ‘Kleenex’, is used,
When, asking for a, ‘Puffs’, nose tissue.

Jog, you saw it,
Did not the photo of ’that’ wrench, say, ‘Crescent’ on it ?

Was not the correct answer,
(AFTER NONE, of the COLLAGE Student NEW)
Stated as: ‘What is a Crescent Wrench”.

Their is a disease, which affects Canines,
where a dog suddenly attacks or shows uncharacteristic bouts of aggression.
Where it is normally very mild. It is thought to be caused by a form of epilepsy,
or a form of schizophrenia. Due to in-breeding.
(Very often misdiagnosed, because it is, usually a form of, ‘Pack Aggression”)

Anyway, It was first, ‘discovered/reported’, in the Springer Spaniel.
YET it affects, ALL, Breeds of Canine.

So if you go to the Vet, describe the behavior, the Vet may say:
“Oh your, Lab/Beagle/Poodle/etc, has, ’Springer Rage".

Thus, the, ‘Left or Right hand, Parallel Jaw, Adjustable opening wrench”
Where/who, ever made it. Is, in most cases, called a ‘crescent’ wrench.

But it fits.
Someone says, ‘Crescent’,
Everybody Else that said;
‘Parallel Jaw, Adjustable opening wrench’
Are punished !!!!!!

Title: Re: My deleted post....
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/19/17 at 17:51:56

I looked at it. No brand name.
Generic,
If it had a name, especially crescent,that would have been goofy.