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Message started by MShipley on 08/21/17 at 10:26:51

Title: Patriots
Post by MShipley on 08/21/17 at 10:26:51

So even ANTIFA admits they are not patriots..........TT are you ready to condemn these guys yet?

http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/08/20/antifa-brags-about-being-anti-america-burning-flag-then-they-get-pulverized-on-social-media/

Title: Re: Patriots
Post by raydawg on 08/21/17 at 10:54:24

Don't be silly, that is just a few crackpots, they DO NOT represent the movement, or those who only desire a fair and just FREE world for all, UNLIKE every f'n racist, homophobe, bigot, sexist, nazi, etc, that voted for Trump  ::)

Ship, you don't really expect an honest answer from him, now do you  ;D

Title: Re: Patriots
Post by MShipley on 08/21/17 at 11:15:55

Ohh no, absolutely not.......

Title: Re: Patriots
Post by MnSpring on 08/21/17 at 15:03:02

http://thefederalist.com/2017/08/18/chicago-vandals-burn-century-old-bust-abraham-lincoln/


"...in Chicago Vandals burned a century-old bust of Abraham Lincoln,
revealing that the violent campaign
to scrub America of its Confederate past
isn’t about the Confederacy at all..."


Title: Re: Patriots
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/21/17 at 15:32:17

Or, they really are as stupid as they seem.

Title: Re: Patriots
Post by T And T Garage on 08/22/17 at 09:45:36


09172C2D3428213D440 wrote:
So even ANTIFA admits they are not patriots..........TT are you ready to condemn these guys yet?

http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/08/20/antifa-brags-about-being-anti-america-burning-flag-then-they-get-pulverized-on-social-media/


OK... One more time... please try to follow along, OK?

I am against fascism.  I am against violent protests.

What you need to do is understand what antifa actually is.

It's NOT a group like BLM or NOW or the kkk.

Please try to learn what you're talking about so you don't look so ignorant.

Thanks.

Title: Re: Patriots
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/22/17 at 10:03:43

Antifa is violent.

Title: Re: Patriots
Post by MShipley on 08/22/17 at 10:12:57

lol,

Just so I don't sound Ignorant, when they say, " No room for Capitalist, conservatives, libertarians, Classic Liberals, or anyone that supports the Constitution" Your OK with that?

When they say they are "not patriots but rater an Anarchist, Communist movement" Your OK with that also?

I would suggest that these people are a special kind of stupid and probably more dangerous than BLM, or the KKK.

Title: Re: Patriots
Post by T And T Garage on 08/22/17 at 10:29:54


100E35342D3138245D0 wrote:
lol,

Just so I don't sound Ignorant, when they say, " No room for Capitalist, conservatives, libertarians, Classic Liberals, or anyone that supports the Constitution" Your OK with that?

When they say they are "not patriots but rater an Anarchist, Communist movement" Your OK with that also?

Well, since I have never "pledged allegiance" to "them", no, I'm not OK.

But historically, "they" are not what you think they are:

http://www.jacobinmag.com/2017/05/antifascist-movements-hitler-nazis-kpd-spd-germany-cold-war

I would suggest that these people are a special kind of stupid and probably more dangerous than BLM, or the KKK.


*sigh*..... again, please learn what it is, ok?

A brief explanation from wiki:

Antifa is a far-left militant political movement of autonomous, self-described anti-fascist groups in the United States. The term is loosely used to refer to anti-racist, anti-sexist, anti-homophobia, as well as anarchist and anti-capitalist groups.

Title: Re: Patriots
Post by T And T Garage on 08/22/17 at 10:30:55


49576C6D7468617D040 wrote:
lol,

Just so I don't sound Ignorant, when they say, " No room for Capitalist, conservatives, libertarians, Classic Liberals, or anyone that supports the Constitution" Your OK with that?

When they say they are "not patriots but rater an Anarchist, Communist movement" Your OK with that also?

I would suggest that these people are a special kind of stupid and probably more dangerous than BLM, or the KKK.


I take it you're a conservative, right?

Well, do you accept the alt-right conservative agenda?

Same thing.

Title: Re: Patriots
Post by WebsterMark on 08/22/17 at 10:37:38

What you need to do is understand what antifa actually is.

It's NOT a group like BLM or NOW or the kkk.


Wondering if TT's on his way to Phoenix this afternoon. There's conservative asses to kick, beat and bloody. Southwest surely has non-stop to Phoenix from Midway. You can still make it in time.

Title: Re: Patriots
Post by T And T Garage on 08/22/17 at 10:44:31


4C7E79686F7E69567A69701B0 wrote:
What you need to do is understand what antifa actually is.

It's NOT a group like BLM or NOW or the kkk.


Wondering if TT's on his way to Phoenix this afternoon. There's conservative asses to kick, beat and bloody. Southwest surely has non-stop to Phoenix from Midway. You can still make it in time.


No, I'm in Chicago.

Are you chicken to address me personally?

Man up, huh?

Title: Re: Patriots
Post by MShipley on 08/22/17 at 10:51:40

Actually as Wikipedia put it the Alt-right is a loosely defined group of people.

Alt-right is just a term used for anyone that stands a little further right of what the establishment deems to be right. They are not an organized group in any way shape or form nor have they declared to have any goals.

Yes there are those that want to put the neo-Nazi in that group but they are not the same. Right wing conservatives believe in Limited Government and freedom for ALL, they are comprised of people from all races. Neo-nazi are quite opposite.

I do accept the right wing conservative agenda, limited government, balanced budgets, freedom for all, everything Directed by our great Constitution. I do not believe in the Neo-nazi, white supremacy idiots.

The problem with racism to start with is that MAN has grouped people into Races. There are no Races, there are only a whole lot of different looking brown people running around that have different CULTURES.




Title: Re: Patriots
Post by T And T Garage on 08/22/17 at 10:56:20


0E102B2A332F263A430 wrote:
Actually as Wikipedia put it the Alt-right is a loosely defined group of people.

Alt-right is just a term used for anyone that stands a little further right of what the establishment deems to be right. They are not an organized group in any way shape or form nor have they declared to have any goals.

Yes there are those that want to put the neo-Nazi in that group but they are not the same. Right wing conservatives believe in Limited Government and freedom for ALL, they are comprised of people from all races. Neo-nazi are quite opposite.

I do accept the right wing conservative agenda, limited government, balanced budgets, freedom for all, everything Directed by our great Constitution. I do not believe in the Neo-nazi, white supremacy idiots.

The problem with racism to start with is that MAN has grouped people into Races. There are no Races, there are only a whole lot of different looking brown people running around that have different CULTURES.


LMAO!!!!

Then how can you refer to antifa like you do??!?!????

Are you purposely trying to be ignorant??

C'mon.... you can't be.....


Title: Re: Patriots
Post by WebsterMark on 08/22/17 at 11:06:13

antifa is a violent, left wing American terrorist group. anyone not repeatedly disavowing them is a violent, left wing scum themselves.

I hope the cops in Phoenix carry .22 pistols and shoot anyone wearing a black hood over their face in the knee, twice. Two shots, bang, bang. then move on to the next rock throwing scum and nail him twice. Wouldn't take too long and problem solved.

Title: Re: Patriots
Post by T And T Garage on 08/22/17 at 11:12:38


724047565140576844574E250 wrote:
antifa is a violent, left wing American terrorist group. anyone not repeatedly disavowing them is a violent, left wing scum themselves.

It is?  Prove it.  Show me the official antifa site.

Oh, you can't - because just like the alt-right, it doesn't exist.  It's an ideology.

Get over it.

I hope the cops in Phoenix carry .22 pistols and shoot anyone wearing a black hood over their face in the knee, twice. Two shots, bang, bang. then move on to the next rock throwing scum and nail him twice. Wouldn't take too long and problem solved.


Aww, too bad - the First Amendment protects them....  Welcome to America.

Title: Re: Patriots
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/22/17 at 11:22:26

Cops shoved the sides together and walked away and a woman died.

Title: Re: Patriots
Post by MShipley on 08/22/17 at 11:37:40

Antifa, by their own mouth as is reported in the original article wants to destroy, capitalism, the constitution, they are self proclaimed anarchists..........have you ever stopped to ask yourself why there is Government and Social Structure? Because humans have a real hard time getting along........Now I will agree that there is no perfect Government.......USA has had it's issues...... But let's say Antifa wins and they collapse Wall Street and the Government. Do you have any idea how many millions of people will die.

It always interest me when it comes to the issue of the civil war that the only thing people want to remember is slavery in the south and they want to associate that with all white people.........guess what? They lost! Guess who they lost to? A whole bunch of white people that were against slavery and 100's of thousands of those evil white people were killed in order to end slavery! WHY doesn't someone REMEMBER THAT?

Title: Re: Patriots
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/22/17 at 11:43:40

Everybody KNOWS America is just a bunch of racist a55holes.
That's how Obama was elected.
Stupid people..

Title: Re: Patriots
Post by T And T Garage on 08/22/17 at 11:53:22


425C67667F636A760F0 wrote:
Antifa, by their own mouth as is reported in the original article wants to destroy, capitalism, the constitution, they are self proclaimed anarchists..........have you ever stopped to ask yourself why there is Government and Social Structure? Because humans have a real hard time getting along........Now I will agree that there is no perfect Government.......USA has had it's issues...... But let's say Antifa wins and they collapse Wall Street and the Government. Do you have any idea how many millions of people will die.

It always interest me when it comes to the issue of the civil war that the only thing people want to remember is slavery in the south and they want to associate that with all white people.........guess what? They lost! Guess who they lost to? A whole bunch of white people that were against slavery and 100's of thousands of those evil white people were killed in order to end slavery! WHY doesn't someone REMEMBER THAT?


Actually as Wikipedia put it the antifa is a loosely defined group of people.

Antifa is just a term used for anyone that stands a little further left of what the establishment deems to be right. They are not an organized group in any way shape or form nor have they declared to have any goals except standing against fascism.

Yes there are those that want to put the violent behaviour in that group but they are not the same. The antifa movement is grounded in equality and freedom for ALL, they are comprised of people from all races. Violent anarchists are quite opposite.

I do accept the antifa anti-fascist agenda, freedom for all, everything Directed by our great Constitution. I do not believe in the anarchist idiots.

The problem with racism to start with is that MAN has grouped people into Races. There are no Races, there are only a whole lot of different looking brown people running around that have different CULTURES.


Hey - did you see what I did there????


Title: Re: Patriots
Post by WebsterMark on 08/22/17 at 12:05:25

Hey - did you see what I did there????

Yea, you did the same thing 99% of Trump voters do when a$$holes like you label them as racist, but the only difference is you have the worthless news media and entertainment culture on your side so you can take a perfectly logical statement by the President that there was violence on both sides and turn it into something it wasn't and get more people killed.

Congratulations.

Title: Re: Patriots
Post by T And T Garage on 08/22/17 at 12:17:31


7B494E5F58495E614D5E472C0 wrote:
Hey - did you see what I did there????

Yea, you did the same thing 99% of Trump voters do when a$$holes like you label them as racist, (did I label you as a racist?) but the only difference is you have the worthless news media and entertainment culture on your side so you can take a perfectly logical statement by the President that there was violence on both sides and turn it into something it wasn't and get more people killed.

No, no - his words were “But you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides,”.  That's not fake news, that's what he said...

You want to tell me there are good nazis?  You want to tell me there are good people who scream "Jews will not replace us" ?

Congratulations.


Title: Re: Patriots
Post by MShipley on 08/22/17 at 12:22:19

LOL. yes I see what you did and I will accept that since all you can do is copy me that you have nothing else to say.

The problem with your cute but wrong response is that this thread started with an Article where Antifa Members Stated what I posted with their own mouth's............................Did you read the article? Did you see the Quotation marks?

Title: Re: Patriots
Post by MShipley on 08/22/17 at 12:25:48

Since you disagree with Trump saying there are good people on both sides then you have to accept there are NO good people on the Antifa side either................or are you going to be selective?

Title: Re: Patriots
Post by T And T Garage on 08/22/17 at 12:33:01


627C47465F434A562F0 wrote:
LOL. yes I see what you did and I will accept that since all you can do is copy me that you have nothing else to say.

The problem with your cute but wrong response is that this thread started with an Article where Antifa Members Stated what I posted with their own mouth's............................Did you read the article? Did you see the Quotation marks?


Yes, yes I did.....

And just like someone equating the nazis to the alt-right - the SAME THING GOES for putting anarchists in with the entire antifa movement.  This isn't being cute - this is logic 101.

Are you really that obtuse???

Title: Re: Patriots
Post by T And T Garage on 08/22/17 at 12:33:59


160833322B373E225B0 wrote:
Since you disagree with Trump saying there are good people on both sides then you have to accept there are NO good people on the Antifa side either................or are you going to be selective?



No, I'm saying that the side that chants "Jews will not replace us" has NO GOOD PEOPLE ON ITS SIDE.

Clear enough?

Title: Re: Patriots
Post by MShipley on 08/22/17 at 12:40:13

God Bless you TT, you are truly consistent.

Title: Re: Patriots
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/22/17 at 15:08:39

Just back from the rally?

Title: Re: Patriots
Post by MnSpring on 08/22/17 at 15:22:09

Many of you probably have not experienced,
‘Hypothermia’, first hand.
The first, 3/16, or 1/4, of it, you are aware.
The rest of the 13/16s or 3/4s
You are NOT  aware, you HAVE it.

Your fishing, very early spring, your buddy, fell in the creek, is now soaking wet.
He continues fishing, ‘Just a little Cold’.
You come down the stream, you see him walking about aimlessly,
No rod, no hat,  (YOU know, what is happening to him),
So you drop your gear, and rush him to the car to start it and put the heater on full blast, and take off as many wet clothing as you can.

Your  Deer hunting in the North Woods.
6 of you, all experienced outdoorsman.
All about the same time, you all come in from hunting to the cabin.
 (Everyone has a a, ‘watch’, ya know)
Knock the snow off, go on the porch take off the boots and heavy jackets,
  (Telling lies about the, ‘big one’, that you saw)
and start milling inside.   Someone says,  ‘Where’s  Bob ?”

It doesn’t take 10 seconds, and one says, “I got the Fire’,
 And stays behind, turns the heat up, starts a roaring fire in the wood stove,
heats up water for coffee, and soup.
4, get clothes on, take their guns, head out side,
and take different paths, to where, ‘Bob’, should be.
   (Guns are not for hunting, but signaling,
    Does not need to be said, just known)

In 1/2 hour or so, you hear 3 shots. Everyone rushes to those shots.
Here is Bob.  The finder is holding him as best he could, as walking as fast as he could.
The other three, drop their guns on the path,
and  Literally, carry him to the cabin.
The cabin must me 95+ by now, everyone takes off, ALL  his clothes off,
Wrap him in blankets, (which were already stripped off the beds, and hanging over chairs next to the fire)
When the blankets are on, he started, ’Shivering’,
   (WE ALL, breathed a sigh of relief)
Then started giving him sips of hot coffee/soup.

When he was found, he was walking aimlessly.
No gun, No Hat,  No Jacket, No Gloves, and was unbuttoning his shirt.


Or, you are 14.  You are Duck hunting with your Dad.
He has a buddy of his with.  You and your Dad, are on the ground, on the point.
His buddy, took a boat, and is in the water.
 Later, hear a, ’Splash’. Then shouts for help.
We both ran off the point to the other boat, I went out in the boat.
Found him, In the Water, hanging on the overturned boat.
Dad ran up the hill, and drove the PU down as close as he could get it.

When I pulled him in the floating boat, he said:
      (Never Forget this)
“Ya know I was Shivering so bad, I didn’t know if I could hang on to the boat any longer, but I am Fine now, I stopped  ‘Shivering”
Got him in the Truck,  Dad had already called home.
   (We had, FM, business band radios, in the cars, office, And the House)
 ’Turn the heat up, fill the bathtub with, ‘Warm, water’, make some hot coco’
 10 min later, in the house, got him in the water, and he started,  ’Shivering again’.
 Didn’t know it then, but noticed the, wave of relief, from my Parents.

In  ALL  those,  ‘experienced’, cases.
The last thing they remembered,
was, ’Violently Shivering’.


So now, If you haven’t experienced,  Hypothermia. you may know a bit more about it.

And perhaps you will understand, “mass hysteria”, better.
 (Which we see here on this Forum, and on the TV, ’News’)

It is the Same Thing.


The good part.  Someone can, ‘recover’, from,
         “mass hysteria”
Easier than, Hypothermia

http://blog.dilbert.com/post/164297628606/how-to-know-youre-in-a-mass-hysteri...


    (Seems like, a  frequent poster here,
     is, ’Violently Shivering’)


Title: Re: Patriots
Post by WebsterMark on 08/23/17 at 10:51:33

TT, I see you made it to Phoenix yesterday afterall....

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=M8-nQpf5alE

Title: Re: Patriots
Post by T And T Garage on 08/23/17 at 10:57:09


1E2C2B3A3D2C3B04283B22490 wrote:
TT, I see you made it to Phoenix yesterday afterall....

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=M8-nQpf5alE



LOL - nice shot in the balls!  

Nope that wasn't me - I'm fatter.

Plus, I don't condone violent protesting.


Title: Re: Patriots
Post by WebsterMark on 08/23/17 at 11:18:47

I don't know man, you typed that ladt post in an awfully high pitched font....darn, that had to hurt. You get credit for getting up off the deck, I'll give you that.

Title: Re: Patriots
Post by T And T Garage on 08/23/17 at 11:23:14


152720313627300F233029420 wrote:
I don't know man, you typed that ladt post in an awfully high pitched font....darn, that had to hurt. You get credit for getting up off the deck, I'll give you that.



Like I said, I'm fatter.  Oh, and I'm in Chicago, so....

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