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Message started by justin_o_guy2 on 08/21/17 at 19:11:48

Title: Reality
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/21/17 at 19:11:48

Per my observations
Not a 100* day yet.

Got eight inches of rain last week.

After all these years of ever increasing temperatures, it's not as hot.

Howcumizzat I wunner?

Maybe I'm not qualified to judge what my thermometer and rain gauge say, because I'm not a trained meteorological genius..

Title: Re: Reality
Post by Eegore on 08/22/17 at 08:22:49

So is this a "global" warming assessment?

Title: Re: Reality
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/22/17 at 08:38:00

That was modified.
It SAID
But others are
And there Was a link.

Title: Re: Reality
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/22/17 at 11:53:16

Its not the one I had posted,

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/08/al-gore-humiliation-new-study-proves-earth-warmer-medieval-times/

But it's good

Title: Re: Reality
Post by Eegore on 08/22/17 at 12:28:16

The problem I have with statistics like that article is that its half about science and half about Al Gore.

Where I live the most the weather is warmer, in the past 4 years we have had the highest temps on record. I can't use that as an argument for global warming because there are way too many variables.

The warming debate is like debating if seatbelts save lives, too many variables and everyone knows a guy who knew two people in a wreck where the one wearing a seatbelt died and the one without lived.

I don't know why taking steps to evaluate and combat potential climate warming is a bad idea. I might not live to retirement age but I'll still invest.

Title: Re: Reality
Post by MShipley on 08/22/17 at 12:44:31

The climate doesn't bother me it's been in Flux since God created climate. What does worry me is what man thinks he's going to do about it.

Title: Re: Reality
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/22/17 at 15:02:43

Well, some people think they have the answer. Just pay the carbon tax and everything is going to be fine.

Title: Re: Reality
Post by MnSpring on 08/22/17 at 16:20:36

‘Climate Change’, IS:
(As MShipley said) “it’s been in Flux since God created climate”.

And believing in that;
Does, NOT, mean, that the believers of that,
“Throw Tires in the Ditch”

In Actual FACT !!!!!!!!!!
Used to get Milk in Glass Bottles,
and then, Return them to be filled again.

Used to get, ‘Paper’ Bags, which were, ‘re used’, or used as Book Covers, or in the Garden next to plants so weeds would not grow, then end of season, became part of the soil. Used to make ‘masks’ at Halloween. Used to put extras in the recycle bin, which the next year, you never knew they were their.

Etc., Etc., Etc., Etc., and on and on and on.

So, ‘WHO”, decided to make things, out of something,
that will last, 500 Years, yet, everyone, ’Throws Away’ ?

A Car/Truck/M.C., emissions, is but a ’speck of sand on the beach’.

But EVERYONE, that believes in that,
Does, Not do little things like, a higher MPG vehicle, or, LED light bulbs, or saying, ‘Paper’, at the store, etc. etc. etc.
And of course, their are, ALL NAZI’s.
(As we have been told)

Title: Re: Reality
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/22/17 at 17:08:37

The Idiot tree huggers decided plastic is better than paper.

Title: Re: Reality
Post by MnSpring on 08/22/17 at 19:28:11

A 60, ‘Watt’, incandescent Light Bulb.
Gives off a certain amount of, ‘Light’.
We all know, what light, a, ’60 Watt’, Bulb gives off,
So if we need more, ya go to a 75, or a 100, etc.
if less, a 40 or a 20, ‘WATT’.
(In incandescent)
That amount of light, we just, ‘know’, by the, ‘Watts’.
(In a incandescent bulb)

Today, (Actually 100+ Years ago), which is gaining in knowledge, as in last 10 years.
‘Lumens’, are the measurement of the, ‘amount’, of, light.

To equate, a, incandescent 60 watt light bulb, gives off the ‘light’ of about, 800-840, ‘Lumens’.
(And it uses, ’60 Watts of Power’.
A, LED, (Light Emitting diode) started to become common, in the early 60’s
(The little red light on your TV, or Microwave, etc, it is a LED)
And that TINY light uses a, TINY FRACTION, of a Watt

The Beauty part, about a a LED, is,
If it gives off, 800 - 840, Lumens,
It will use 9 - 12 Watts, of Electricity, NOT 60 Watts !!!!!
Depending on quality of components, Life, Color (Kelvin degrees)
Bright white, 6,000 - 5,000, White, 5,000 - 4,000, Warm white, 4,000-3000.
(Bright sunlight is about 6,500, a candle burning is about, 2,000-1,200)

So looking at, 800 + Lumens, and same time on.
A incandescent Light Bulb, costs, 1.00 Lasts about a year, and uses 60 Watts.
A, CFL light bulb, costs, 2.00, lasts about 4-6 years, and uses about 30 Watts.
A, LED light bulb, costs 4.00, lasts 20-30 Years, and uses about 9 - 12 Watts.

So, when you need to replace a burnt out Light bulb, what you gonna replace it with ?

A Word on, ‘CFL’s’.
CFL = ‘Compact Florescent Light’.
Gee, who was that guy that invented the Internet, ?
HE SAID, “BUY CLF’s”

Examine, a ‘CFL’, It has a ‘Ballast’, containing, Polychlorinated Biphenyls (PCB)
The, ‘bulb’, contains, mercury-vapor.
(Yep, Gore says just toss it in the trash when it goes out!)
To note: Polychlorinated Biphenyls (PCB), were, ‘Banned’ in production in the USA, late 70’s.
(GEE, where do all the CLF’s Come From ????????????)

Yep, I had, CFL’s, a few, I recycled them when they burnt out.
And replaced them with LED’s (SAFE)
(Think I paid 7.95 (on sale), for my first one)
Now I buy them at, (820 Lumens), for 5.95 for 4. On Sale.

Almost have all the incandescent ones replaces, Just One CFL left left.
So between the House, Barn, Shed, Office, Pole barn,
Probably 50 light bulbs.
At 60 Watts each, that's, 3,000 Watts,
With LED’s 600 Watts.
(Same Amount of Light)

Significant drop on Elect Bill.
Yet, elect bill, (Per Kilowatt) keeps, ‘creeping’, up.
Why is That ?

If you want to get, ‘Ahead of the Curve’.
And want to get LED’s.
LOOK CLOSELY, at the Box,

Some brands will say, IN BIG LETTERS, "60 Watt Equivalent”.
LOOK, Read the, Very FINE Print,
Where is says’ ‘500-600’, Lumens’.
500-600, IS NOT 800-840,
Regardless of any, ’New Math’.

But hey, China, LIED ?
the, ‘Mart Mart, lied by selling those?
And you are going to do, ‘what’, ?????????

Knowledge is POWER, Lack of Knowledge is LACK of Power.

Inform others, ( Even if they have a form of, Hypothermia).

(O.B.T.Y. a incandescent bulb Will give off light at -20
A CFL will NOT,
A LED Will)

But, ’Never Mind’, (As Gilda would say).
Because I believe, the grain of sand on the beach, called, Cars/Man,
Has no bearing on the climate changes this, ’Spaceship’, has.
And of course,
I throw all my used tires in the Ditch!

Title: Re: Reality
Post by Eegore on 08/22/17 at 20:59:12

Are CFLs vs LED connected to global warming? Or is this thread about Al Gore?

Title: Re: Reality
Post by MnSpring on 08/23/17 at 08:09:16

1C3C3E362B3C590 wrote:

Are CFLs vs LED connected to global warming? Or is this thread about Al Gore?

Well, if the Less electricity, garnered by use of LED Light bulbs.
Was used by, ‘Everybody’.
Just think of how much, Less Coal would burn to make that electricity?

Surely, that, would help to clean things up.
No ?
Oh then just the same, as a Person, riding a bicycle, in the rain, to work,
Because his, ‘car’, is polluting !

The ‘point’, was that, Just because, a person does, NOT,
believe in the, ‘Fear Mongering’, they are told to.
Does Not mean they throw tires in the Ditch.

Oh, and Gore, and his love of CLF’s,
Yep, I Just had to put a DIG in,
Of a person who has a VERY BIG, ‘carbon footprint’,
Telling everyone else, ‘pay the ‘carbon’ TAX, and everything will be all right’.