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Message started by raydawg on 08/30/17 at 09:41:59

Title: “never heard in Democratic circles.”
Post by raydawg on 08/30/17 at 09:41:59

Well, gee, that sounds sorta restricting, draconian.....producing only more ignorance, like putting your head in the sand.




Feinstein stuns San Francisco crowd: Trump 'can be a good president'

U.S. Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., stunned a San Francisco audience Tuesday when she said that if President Trump "can learn and change," he could “be a good president.”

The San Francisco Chronicle reported that Feinstein made the comments during a sold-out Herbst Theater interview. She was onstage with Ellen Tauscher, a former Bay Area congresswoman.

The paper described the event as a “political lovefest” — pointing out that Feinstein is wildly popular in San Francisco, where she served as mayor for a decade. She was first elected to the Senate in 1992, after a failed bid for governor of California.

Toward the end of the evening, Feinstein reportedly shocked the crowd when she declined to say that Trump should be impeached and then told the audience that they should be prepared to see Trump complete his four-year term.

Feinstein serves on both the Senate Intelligence Committee and the Senate Judiciary Committee, both of which are investigating Russia’s alleged involvement in the 2016 U.S. presidential election.

“The question is whether he can learn and change. If so, I believe he can be a good president,” she said.

"The question is whether he can learn and change. If so, I believe he can be a good president.”

- U.S. Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., speaking about President Trump
The report said, “the crowd reacted with stunned silence, broken only with scattered “No’s and a few hisses and some nervous laughter.” The article said that kind of talk is “never heard in Democratic circles.”

Feinstein has been a tough critic of Trump. She recently slammed his decision to pardon Sheriff Joe Arpaio of Arizona, saying Trump's action shows a “flagrant disregard for the rule of law in this country.”

She asserted that the pardon sent a message to police departments across the United States “that racial profiling is OK.”

On the topic of a border wall with Mexico, Feinstein said she believes Americans would rather send aid to Texas flood victims than pay for a border wall.

She has also criticized Trump’s transgender military ban and called the nature of Trump’s immigration policies “cruel and arbitrary.”

The conversation touched on many subjects, but the 84-year-old did not say whether she’ll seek re-election next year.

Still, Feinstein stood by her comments about Trump, saying, “We have to see if he can forget himself enough and have the type of empathy and direction the country needs.”

She said if he doesn't, "there are things that can be done."

The Associated Press contributed to this report


Wow, for 84 years old, she really appears to be as sharp as ever.
I have always found her demeanor to be one that I wished others would emulate....

GAWD, if Trump could be more like her "statesmanship" he might prove his "fake news" argument, instead of  adding wood to the fire....

I think this signals Dianne is done.
I liked her a lot, when I lived in California....
Boxer on the other hand  ::)

PS: Eegore, would not allowing dissenting viewpoints be heard/discussed,  be considered fringe mentality?
If no, then share with me how ignorance adds to understanding, please.
Thanks  :)  

Title: Re: “never heard in Democratic circles.”
Post by T And T Garage on 08/30/17 at 09:53:15

LOL - funny article.

Don't be fooled - He can't learn or understand.

Our president is an idiot.

Not to step on Eegore's response of your question "Eegore, would not allowing dissenting viewpoints be heard/discussed,  be considered fringe mentality?" - but that's an idiotic question.

Why must you go to the extreme in your questions?  No one (certainly not me) is saying that someone like a nazi can't speak or doesn't have the right to speak.  But once you know the message, you needn't listen any further.  I wouldn't let a nazi in my house - would you?

Why can't you answer that question ray?

Title: Re: “never heard in Democratic circles.”
Post by raydawg on 08/30/17 at 10:20:34

You say this board, its members, and their replies/post, mean nothing to you.......

I believe you, and therefor will not waste any energy on meaningless.

I am surprised you didn't already know that, too.  

Title: Re: “never heard in Democratic circles.”
Post by T And T Garage on 08/30/17 at 10:56:48


35263E23263020470 wrote:
You say this board, its members, and their replies/post, mean nothing to you.......

Once again, you have a problem with comprehension.  What I've said is I don't care what you think of me. Big difference.  If you don't want to answer, just say so.

I believe you, and therefor will not waste any energy on meaningless.

I am surprised you didn't already know that, too.  


Well ray - then don't do it for me (if that's the way you see it) - do it for the rest of the folks on the board.  Would you let a nazi in your house?

Title: Re: “never heard in Democratic circles.”
Post by raydawg on 08/30/17 at 11:16:41


4A545B5A574A514C3E0 wrote:
[quote author=35263E23263020470 link=1504111319/0#2 date=1504113634]You say this board, its members, and their replies/post, mean nothing to you.......

Once again, you have a problem with comprehension.  What I've said is I don't care what you think of me. Big difference.  If you don't want to answer, just say so.

I believe you, and therefor will not waste any energy on meaningless.

I am surprised you didn't already know that, too.  


Well ray - then don't do it for me (if that's the way you see it) - do it for the rest of the folks on the board.  Would you let a nazi in your house?[/quote]

Its a BIG playground.....
I'm sure you can find someone.

Title: Re: “never heard in Democratic circles.”
Post by T And T Garage on 08/30/17 at 11:25:17


7E6D75686D7B6B0C0 wrote:
[quote author=4A545B5A574A514C3E0 link=1504111319/0#3 date=1504115808][quote author=35263E23263020470 link=1504111319/0#2 date=1504113634]You say this board, its members, and their replies/post, mean nothing to you.......

Once again, you have a problem with comprehension.  What I've said is I don't care what you think of me. Big difference.  If you don't want to answer, just say so.

I believe you, and therefor will not waste any energy on meaningless.

I am surprised you didn't already know that, too.  


Well ray - then don't do it for me (if that's the way you see it) - do it for the rest of the folks on the board.  Would you let a nazi in your house?[/quote]

Its a BIG playground.....
I'm sure you can find someone.
[/quote]

LOL - yep, pretty much what I expected.  No answer.

Sad.... I now see that you're a coward too.

Oh well...... enjoy life in your little bubble.

Title: Re: “never heard in Democratic circles.”
Post by raydawg on 08/30/17 at 11:31:05


5A444B4A475A415C2E0 wrote:
[quote author=7E6D75686D7B6B0C0 link=1504111319/0#4 date=1504117001][quote author=4A545B5A574A514C3E0 link=1504111319/0#3 date=1504115808][quote author=35263E23263020470 link=1504111319/0#2 date=1504113634]You say this board, its members, and their replies/post, mean nothing to you.......

Once again, you have a problem with comprehension.  What I've said is I don't care what you think of me. Big difference.  If you don't want to answer, just say so.

I believe you, and therefor will not waste any energy on meaningless.

I am surprised you didn't already know that, too.  


Well ray - then don't do it for me (if that's the way you see it) - do it for the rest of the folks on the board.  Would you let a nazi in your house?[/quote]

Its a BIG playground.....
I'm sure you can find someone.
[/quote]

LOL - yep, pretty much what I expected.  No answer.

Sad.... I now see that you're a coward too.

Oh well...... enjoy life in your little bubble.
[/quote]

Thank you..... you too.

Title: Re: “never heard in Democratic circles.”
Post by verslagen1 on 08/30/17 at 11:55:56


51425A47425444230 wrote:
Toward the end of the evening, Feinstein reportedly shocked the crowd when she declined to say that Trump should be impeached and then told the audience that they should be prepared to see Trump complete his four-year term.

Feinstein serves on both the Senate Intelligence Committee and the Senate Judiciary Committee, both of which are investigating Russia’s alleged involvement in the 2016 U.S. presidential election. 

With her being all both committees, knowing some inside info, IS she saying that there's no collusion evidence on Trump and it's all a witch hunt?

Title: Re: “never heard in Democratic circles.”
Post by T And T Garage on 08/30/17 at 12:21:17


5D4E5958474A4C4E451A2B0 wrote:
[quote author=51425A47425444230 link=1504111319/0#0 date=1504111319]Toward the end of the evening, Feinstein reportedly shocked the crowd when she declined to say that Trump should be impeached and then told the audience that they should be prepared to see Trump complete his four-year term.

Feinstein serves on both the Senate Intelligence Committee and the Senate Judiciary Committee, both of which are investigating Russia’s alleged involvement in the 2016 U.S. presidential election. 

With her being all both committees, knowing some inside info, IS she saying that there's no collusion evidence on Trump and it's all a witch hunt?[/quote]

If you watch the video, it's typical fox news.  The very last snippet on the end is where she said she "hopes he can".  Well, I dunno about you, but to everyone else it's pretty obvious - he can't and won't.  He is without a doubt the most incompetent president we've ever had (and I include Woodrow Wilson in full on stroke mode).

As to the collusion in the election - I think it's a pretty safe bet (it's metaphorical web) his administration (if not he himself) is guilty.

Title: Re: “never heard in Democratic circles.”
Post by raydawg on 08/30/17 at 12:26:20


352631302F2224262D72430 wrote:
[quote author=51425A47425444230 link=1504111319/0#0 date=1504111319]Toward the end of the evening, Feinstein reportedly shocked the crowd when she declined to say that Trump should be impeached and then told the audience that they should be prepared to see Trump complete his four-year term.

Feinstein serves on both the Senate Intelligence Committee and the Senate Judiciary Committee, both of which are investigating Russia’s alleged involvement in the 2016 U.S. presidential election. 

With her being all both committees, knowing some inside info, IS she saying that there's no collusion evidence on Trump and it's all a witch hunt?[/quote]

+1

Title: Re: “never heard in Democratic circles.”
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/30/17 at 12:45:30

Bush was an idiot.
This guy beat the establishment.
And you hate him while he would repair a lot in America IF he wasn't surrounded by establishment idiots.

Title: Re: “never heard in Democratic circles.”
Post by raydawg on 08/30/17 at 13:18:33


283731362B2C1D2D1D25373B70420 wrote:
Bush was an idiot.
This guy beat the establishment.
And you hate him while he would repair a lot in America IF he wasn't surrounded by establishment idiots.


Jog, not to beat around a "bush"......  :D

You like looking at the money angle.
I am planing the finalization to my retirement.
The economic results have exceeded all expectations since Trump arrived on the scene.
All the indicators are doing pretty darn good, haven't seen results like this in quite a spell.
I have left some larger than I wanted to, amount of money in play, and I am extremely conservative when it comes to risk...
But I appear to have lots of company as most forecasters expect this to continue at a healthy clip, for the next couple of years.

You have any input on the matter buddy?

PS: I think the "wall" was dreamed up as a card to play in cutting a tax deal with the democrats, BTW  ;)

Title: Re: “never heard in Democratic circles.”
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/30/17 at 15:19:08

I have no comfort in the economy.
Trump gave the business people/investor
types some comfort that insanity wasn't the operative word. He didn't DO anything that changed their outlook.
I have no faith in the economy.

Title: Re: “never heard in Democratic circles.”
Post by raydawg on 08/30/17 at 17:15:44

Do you have any money?

How do you leverage it?

Under your mattress is no good, that is for sure....

Title: Re: “never heard in Democratic circles.”
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/30/17 at 18:02:08

That's Generally true.

Title: Re: “never heard in Democratic circles.”
Post by T And T Garage on 08/30/17 at 23:44:24

LOL like watching two mice trying to "decide" how to kill a lion... too funny!!

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