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Title: Bye bye DACA....... Post by raydawg on 09/05/17 at 13:43:41 Now pass the Dream Act.... This is stupid. You can NOT deport kids who had nothing to do with coming to the USA, and provisions are written to this bill that these kids can NOT any shady background issues, so, WTF.... Pass it and give them some peace of mind and let's work toward other things needing our attention. I get why Obama did this, it was because congress would not do their job, yes, he overstepped his authority, but he would not have had to if congress would get to work for all the people!! N |
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Title: Re: Bye bye DACA....... Post by pg on 09/05/17 at 14:39:02 "unilateral executive amnesty." Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Bye bye DACA....... Post by T And T Garage on 09/05/17 at 16:34:01 3A29312C293F2F480 wrote:
Since you said your wife is of Hispanic descent - does she have skin in the game? I sure hope for her sake she doesn't. |
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Title: Re: Bye bye DACA....... Post by pg on 09/05/17 at 16:42:54 Well, the GOP would beg to differ. They want them all gone... maybe so they can't vote? http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/09/05/chicago-reported-thousands-more-votes-than-voters-in-2016-gop-official-says.html ;D Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Bye bye DACA....... Post by T And T Garage on 09/05/17 at 16:47:42 5C4B4D414E5E2C0 wrote:
I hope you can read a green better than you read an article....: “They’re looking at a preliminary report from January, and just recently, in the last week, they’ve filed a request for an updated report,” Allen said. “They’re looking at incomplete data.” Cleveland told Fox News he did send another FOIA request last week. Allen said the initial data from January “didn’t include” a “post-election review of paper ballot applications.” “Now that those are entered, the difference is like 30—and that’s the best accountability we’ve ever had,” Allen told Fox News. “Their claim is false and ridiculous.” He explained that city uses an electronic poll book system launched in 2014, and, “We’ve had to go back and go through paper applications every election cycle since then, and the paper applications have filled in the gap every time.” When asked why the Board has yet to set the record straight and make any public announcement, Allen responded, “Why would we announce? We’re only 30 off. We’ve had our best record ever.” |
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Title: Re: Bye bye DACA....... Post by pg on 09/05/17 at 16:53:17 First reported by the Chicago City Wire, the Chicago GOP filed a Freedom of Information Act request with the Chicago Board of Elections in January for a list of voters who had cast ballots in November. According to the party, the board responded with a list of 1,101,178 individuals, though its website reflects 1,115,664 votes cast. VOTE EARLY & VOTE OFTEN!! Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Bye bye DACA....... Post by T And T Garage on 09/05/17 at 16:55:00 352224282737450 wrote:
“Now that those are entered, the difference is like 30—and that’s the best accountability we’ve ever had,” Allen told Fox News. “Their claim is false and ridiculous.” fox - clear and balanced..... never! |
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Title: Re: Bye bye DACA....... Post by pg on 09/05/17 at 17:05:41 “Now that those are entered, the difference is like 30—and that’s the best accountability we’ve ever had,” Allen told Fox News. “Their claim is false and ridiculous.” He is the spokesman for the Chicago Board of Election Commissioners. Surely he would want to conceded they ran a fraudulent operation full of discrepancies. Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Bye bye DACA....... Post by T And T Garage on 09/05/17 at 17:09:32 2037313D3222500 wrote:
What's fraudulent? The data was incomplete in January...... Why is that so hard for you to understand? Oh, right... because you heard on fox that Chicago is corrupt.... and you believe everything you hear on fox. Good boy.... sit..... stay....... |
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Title: Re: Bye bye DACA....... Post by MnSpring on 09/05/17 at 18:32:56 So, St. Paul MN., Brought a Whole Bunch of, ‘Refugees’, from Somalia a number of years ago. Many of them had, small/babies, and very small children, (They were NOT Citizens, did they become ? Don’t know) The ones in the Belly, became Citizens. Are they, ’the kids’, responsible, for something ?????? NO, not at that age. Just the SAME, as, I, Never had Slaves, My Father & Mother, Never had Slaves, Their, Fathers and Mothers, Never had Slaves. And, THEIR, Fathers and Mothers NEVER Had Slaves, In Germany or Here. YET, I, am to atone, for ALL, the, ’sins’, of someone else !!!!!!!!! Like if your Father and Mother, took you to, say Argentina, when you were 5. Are you responsible ????? OK, Now, say you come to a Country, which gives you, FREE Housing, FREE, Food, Free Healthcare, FREE, Education. You, ‘grow up’, and then have the ability, to make, YOUR, own Choice. Choices are; You see what a GREAT Country this is, and you WANT, to be a part of it. OR You want to see it, ‘fail’. And you Choose ….. (Where have the MOST, ISIS Supporter Recruits come from ????) Any influence, on your, ‘CHOICE’, come from; Parents, Schools, Religious Leaders. ?????? NOW, you are, ‘Responsible’, for your, ‘Choice’. Rather simple, Be a PART, and Contribute, Or Get the Hell OUT ! |
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Title: Re: Bye bye DACA....... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/05/17 at 21:58:04 WASHINGTON SECRETS Jail survey: 7 in 10 felons register as Democrats.... Aaand just before the election Some democrat guvnah released a buttload of convicts.. remember? |
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Title: Re: Bye bye DACA....... Post by pg on 09/06/17 at 04:17:44 Why is that so hard for you to understand? Oh, right... because you heard on fox that Chicago is corrupt.... and you believe everything you hear on fox. Good boy.... sit..... stay....... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_history_of_Chicago Chicago has a long history of political corruption,[11] dating to the incorporation of the city in 1833.[12] It has been a de facto monolithic entity of the Democratic Party from the mid 20th century onward.[13][14] Research released by the University of Illinois at Chicago reports that Chicago and Cook County's judicial district recorded 45 public corruption convictions for 2013, and 1642 convictions since 1976, when the Department of Justice began compiling statistics. This prompted many media outlets to declare Chicago the "corruption capital of America".[15] Gradel and Simpson's Corrupt Illinois (2015) provides the data behind Chicago's corrupt political culture.[16][17] They found that a tabulation of federal public corruption convictions make Chicago "undoubtedly the most corrupt city in our nation",[18] with the cost of corruption "at least" $500 million per year.[ http://chicago.suntimes.com/opinion/a-must-read-tells-how-corrupt-chicago-and-illinois-are/ Did you know, for example, that 33 Chicago aldermen have been convicted and sent to jail since 1973, and two others died before their trials? The authors’ tongue-in-cheek conclusion: “The federal crime rate in the City Council is higher than in the most dangerous ghetto in the city.” A few other takeaway figures in the book: 1,913 individuals were convicted of public corruption in Illinois between 1976 and 2012. That’s 52 a year, or one per week. Care to revise your BS post? Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Bye bye DACA....... Post by WebsterMark on 09/06/17 at 05:27:33 Chicago's a great place to visit, had a lot of fun there over the years. But like any major US city, you have to know where the no go zones are. Chicago might have more and larger no-go zones that most and the murders that happen over any weekend are unbelievable. Years ago, I was in Chicago working. We fired a collector who wasn't do her job so I was trying to figure out who owned us money and who didn't. I found this trucking company who owed us quite a bit and he was somewhere near Midway. Mind you, this was 30+ years ago. I was going to going to pick up the money and one of our mechanics before I left warned me not to take cash. That's all he said, don't take cash. When I get down there, the guy wants to give me couple thousand in cash. I refused, but when I left, noticed a couple guys near my car. The guy in the building must have given them a sign because they walked away. if I had taken the cash, I would have been robbed, I'm sure. But honestly, that could have happened anywhere. Back to Chicago, some parts of it are a shithole, absolute 3rd world. And those parts are all in the Chicago city government! What a bunch of one party corrupt POS's. If any state in the Union should split in to two, it's Illinois. Call it Northern Illinois and Southern Illinois. |
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Title: Re: Bye bye DACA....... Post by WebsterMark on 09/06/17 at 05:34:24 Back to DACA; as we all know, the only reason liberals want this is because of the votes. Obama took absolutely the 2nd most cowardly path when he had an administrative order issued to counteract Congress and their most cowardly act by not doing anything. DACA is not sustainable. You can't grant automatic citizenship because you parents were snuck across the boarder. We can't grant US Citizenship to the world. At some point, we have to draw a line in the sand. Oh, we have that, it's suppose to be a boarder... This all goes back to boarder control. A wall, a dedicated and consistent effort to find and deport illegals. I, like many others, most people perhaps, would be willing to grant a form of lesser citizenship to illegals and children in this country only if a wall were build and laws in place that Democratic mayors and governors couldn't refuse. Is it fair to those who are following the current legal immigration procedure? No. But that's why the deal should be some type of lesser citizenship classification for illegals, full citizenship for legal immigrants. |
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Title: Re: Bye bye DACA....... Post by T And T Garage on 09/06/17 at 06:07:54 6D7A7C707F6F1D0 wrote:
Nope. Care to revise yours? |
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Title: Re: Bye bye DACA....... Post by T And T Garage on 09/06/17 at 07:36:26 6F5D5A4B4C5D4A75594A53380 wrote:
Um..... liar. You've never been to Chicago. (see how that works?) |
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Title: Re: Bye bye DACA....... Post by pg on 09/06/17 at 07:39:29 697778797469726F1D0 wrote:
Nope. Care to revise yours?[/quote] Your really have begun to look like an amateur..... Best regards |
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Title: Re: Bye bye DACA....... Post by T And T Garage on 09/06/17 at 07:41:43 687F79757A6A180 wrote:
Nope. Care to revise yours?[/quote] Your really have begun to look like an amateur..... Best regards [/quote] LOL - oh yeah... that coming from the likes of you means pretty much nothing. Thanks for trying pg. Now, go back and watch more fox news like a good boy. |
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Title: Re: Bye bye DACA....... Post by pg on 09/06/17 at 07:54:48 I really don't watch fox much, but anything is better than the youtubes of the fat bastard you are always posting. Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Bye bye DACA....... Post by T And T Garage on 09/06/17 at 07:58:10 6176707C7363110 wrote:
"Fat bastard"? What are you in 2nd grade? All you got is fat jokes? Please - grow up. If you're referring to Cenk, you may want to rethink your logic in not listening to his channel. His network has more subscriptions than fox, msnbc and cnn COMBINED. They speak truth to power - it's as simple as that. |
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Title: Re: Bye bye DACA....... Post by pg on 09/06/17 at 08:08:53 3E202F2E233E25384A0 wrote:
What are you in 2nd grade? All you got is fat jokes? Please - grow up. [/quote] And that's coming from a guy who posts: Good boy.... sit..... stay....... ;D Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Bye bye DACA....... Post by WebsterMark on 09/06/17 at 08:12:10 5B454A4B465B405D2F0 wrote:
Um..... liar. You've never been to Chicago. (see how that works?) [/quote] No, it doesn't work that way. The difference is; I'm not lying. You however, are a known liar. You made a story up about talking to cops and once busted, you continue to lie about it. |
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Title: Re: Bye bye DACA....... Post by T And T Garage on 09/06/17 at 08:25:16 0E3C3B2A2D3C2B14382B32590 wrote:
Um..... liar. You've never been to Chicago. (see how that works?) [/quote] No, it doesn't work that way. The difference is; I'm not lying. You however, are a known liar. You made a story up about talking to cops and once busted, you continue to lie about it. [/quote] "Known liar"? Please.... show me proof of that statement. |
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Title: Re: Bye bye DACA....... Post by Serowbot on 09/06/17 at 08:36:21 Trump's agenda is nothing more than a personal vendetta against Obama... it's not directed at bettering America... Selfish, vindictive, egotist... |
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Title: Re: Bye bye DACA....... Post by WebsterMark on 09/06/17 at 08:57:47 You could say Obama did the same for Bush. And Bush did the same for Clinton. And Clinton did the same for his Bush. ETC..... Why are Trump's actions selfish, vindictive or egotistical while Obama's were not? Obama said horrible things about the policies Bush implemented. As we all know, Trump does not have a politicians mouth, but you don't really think Obama thought any differently about Bush's policies than the way Trump speaks out loud about Obama's policies? |
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Title: Re: Bye bye DACA....... Post by Trippah on 09/06/17 at 09:00:24 There may be 50 shades of Grey, but this is black and white. A minority of Americans, but especially Trump, are really pissed that a Negra got uppity and was elected President. It really is about the feeling of entitlement (which interestingly) only the Republicans harp about. You see, once upon a time, if you were born free, white, and male, you could claim ownership and boss around others just because. The Trumpettes see that all slip sliding away. :D |
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Title: Re: Bye bye DACA....... Post by pg on 09/06/17 at 09:11:42 12342F3636272E460 wrote:
Any remnants of that has been gone for decades. Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Bye bye DACA....... Post by WebsterMark on 09/06/17 at 09:23:01 There may be 50 shades of Grey, but this is black and white. A minority of Americans, but especially Trump, are really pissed that a Negra got uppity and was elected President. wow.....that's quite a statement about Trump. You don't think that's a bit over the top? |
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Title: Re: Bye bye DACA....... Post by WebsterMark on 09/06/17 at 09:25:12 You see, once upon a time, if you were born free, white, and male, you could claim ownership and boss around others just because None of us were alive when that was true so WTF are you talking about?.... |
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Title: Re: Bye bye DACA....... Post by T And T Garage on 09/06/17 at 09:29:46 6C4A5148485950380 wrote:
BOOM!!! Trippah dropping the bomb! YES! |
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Title: Re: Bye bye DACA....... Post by MShipley on 09/06/17 at 09:50:39 Typical, cant win just call them racist........so sad. |
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Title: Re: Bye bye DACA....... Post by T And T Garage on 09/06/17 at 09:52:48 4D536869706C6579000 wrote:
No different than calling anyone outside the GOP "liberal". Gee, what do you know, not everyone fits into two categories.... how about that? |
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Title: Re: Bye bye DACA....... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/06/17 at 13:47:51 Jeeze, you guys are nuts. Pissed about Obama? If that's true, why WAIT? Trump should have stopped him from being reelected. You don't even make sense. And, watch the fukkin interview with Oprah. Yeah, racist Trump Allowed an uppity negress to interview him. He ran for president because ONE MORE DISASTER criminal president would have ended the country. Opinions are great. Based in REALITY helps. |
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Title: Re: Bye bye DACA....... Post by pg on 09/06/17 at 13:57:34 No different than calling anyone outside the GOP "liberal". No different, BS! There is an extremely derogative connotation for calling someone ray-ciss, next comes some kind of Nazi assertion. Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Bye bye DACA....... Post by pg on 09/06/17 at 13:59:10 3F2026213C3B0A3A0A32202C67550 wrote:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/29/health/surgeon-general-jerome-adams.html Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Bye bye DACA....... Post by Trippah on 09/06/17 at 15:02:48 Have you ever noticed that those who moan loudest; for example the several evangelical ministers who whined on forever about loose moral were found, now here is the surprise, to have been cheating on their wives (Tammy's face floats past my eyelids). Listen, the Democrats have been out of touch for decades. That is why they lost the Electoral college vote, thus the election. Frankly, if they trot out one more woman with 5-9 children and call her a hero, I am going to Barf. My wife and I worked hard to have and take care of thee children, can't even perceive of wanting 10. And where were the Fathers (husbands, boyfriends) and passing sperm donors? Didn't see them on stage. Sorry, but Hilary was bad enough by herself, but taking care of those who can't work (except on their backs?) doesn't really thrill me. Maybe someday they will actually stand for decency and the hard working middle class that has been consistently shafted these past 15 years. And no, I am NOT holding my breath! :'( :'( |
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Title: Re: Bye bye DACA....... Post by pg on 09/06/17 at 18:31:51 697E78747B6B190 wrote:
http://www.msn.com/en-us/music/news/civil-rights-group-wants-kid-rock-detroit-concerts-canceled/ar-AAroJjv?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp They want him to cancel $860M worth of concerts because he supports Trump and likes the confederate flag. Never mind he was given an accommodation from the NAACP in 2011. Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Bye bye DACA....... Post by raydawg on 09/07/17 at 11:43:22 PG, When you can judge, tease, and scorn a person because of his born physical condition/traits, as inferior, yet.... Use it as a tool, to call out intolerance, scorn and judge any opposing folks to THEIR beliefs, when they (conservatives) use differences like, race, sex, etc, as a mitigating circumstance in reaching their opinion, etc, Is so revealing to a persons core principals, and integrity, that one can only fault himself, in thinking intellectual honest dialogue is possible. I am afraid, tho desires commendable, impossible. |
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