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Message started by T And T Garage on 09/25/17 at 11:35:34

Title: We Lack Leadership
Post by T And T Garage on 09/25/17 at 11:35:34

Since Hurricane Maria ripped across Puerto Rico last week, President Trump has tweeted or retweeted more than 50 messages. Just one was about the hurricane.

http://www.yahoo.com/news/puerto-rico-reels-hurricane-trump-focuses-football-153916235.html

Eff this effing effer...

Our president is going to tweet more about effing kneeling at a football game than those in need in the wake of hurricanes??

I am this close to joining the "not my president" coalition.

But you will notice that ALL my posts have said "our president" and not "your president".

I fully realize that for better or worse (in this case, much worse) he is our president. But this has gone on for far too long. He needs to be removed. Policy wise - pence will be way worse - he will actually bring the GOP establishment together and push forward all the cr@p that tweety can't. But we might avoid a war with NK and we will finally have a president with just a little more decorum.

Who knows, we might finally get a president that doesn't respond to every little piece of criticism like a 12 year old and one that won't embarrass us.

Title: Re: We Lack Leadership
Post by raydawg on 09/25/17 at 12:47:45

The man is a nutsack........

I have already posted about this.
I feel the ball is in the court of all those who say his behavior is not acceptable.
However, if they too want to get into the sandbox, acting like Berkeley, who is suppose to be the epitome of free speech and tolerance by exhibiting actions exactly like those they are against.....
Then I am afraid nothing will change.
The idiots who vote straight ticket, etc, will keep dragging this crap on....

Title: Re: We Lack Leadership
Post by WebsterMark on 09/25/17 at 12:52:27

Ray; Trump was not part of a straight ticket. The established R's didn't want him anymore than the established D's. Trump was basically a 3rd party candidate (as was the Bern) who dragged the established R's ( and an awful lot of D's), kicking and screaming to his side.

Title: Re: We Lack Leadership
Post by pg on 09/25/17 at 12:55:44

372926272A372C31430 wrote:

Eff this effing effer...

SSDD, get over it.

Best regards,

Title: Re: We Lack Leadership
Post by raydawg on 09/25/17 at 13:00:02

427077666170675874677E150 wrote:

Yes, you are correct.
But I wasn't calling out Trump as a straight ticket player, no.
What I was trying to say was that nothing will come to repair if we only find issue with the opposition, and let our own party escape the same judgement and scrutiny.

Title: Re: We Lack Leadership
Post by T And T Garage on 09/25/17 at 13:04:59

4A5D5B5758483A0 wrote:

[quote author=372926272A372C31430 link=1506364534/0#0 date=1506364534]
Eff this effing effer...

SSDD, get over it.

Best regards,
[/quote]

No, this isn't the same.

This president is a cancer not only within the republican party, but on the world stage.

He uses metaphors from the third grade and eggs on crazy dictators into global conflict. He tweets about football players and those who criticize him. In one breath he says we need to come together and in the very next one he pulls out the phrase "sons-of-b!tches" to describe football players. Nothing about this man is presidential.

Yeah, we all get that he's "anti-establishment" - but so was lenin, and stalin, and hitler, etc., etc.

He is a danger to this country and lacks the leadership skill and the intelligence to know any better.

Title: Re: We Lack Leadership
Post by T And T Garage on 09/25/17 at 13:28:16

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Title: Re: We Lack Leadership
Post by raydawg on 09/25/17 at 14:36:59

Title: Re: We Lack Leadership
Post by thumperclone on 09/26/17 at 03:41:33

at least they are not burning the flag...

Title: Re: We Lack Leadership
Post by T And T Garage on 09/26/17 at 06:21:27

7A69716C697F6F080 wrote:

What the liberals fail to grasp is that Trump is an extension of Clinton and Obama.
I have said many times before their lax of the symbolism of the office, so they could be hip and cool, Trump has exploited it to its extreme.

To go on the late night shows and play a sax, joke about the opposition, for Obama to get involved in local issues, like Trevor Martin, saying if he had a son, etc.....
Has caused this drift....

Wait, Obama caused this drift? HA! No, sorry. As much as you might push against it, the only thing Obama did was shine a very bright light on the institutional racism that still exists in the county. You can whine and complain all you want about how "the libs just call everyone a racist", but that's a cop out.

Look at the facts - how many prior presidents had their birth certificates questioned? How many times was Obama accused of being a Muslim? How many posts did you see calling them "monkeys" - hey, even someone on this forum called him a "porch black person". No, Obama wasn't the "great unifier", but to blame him for the current divide is way off.

Our current president has done more to divide this country in 9 months than anyone in the history of the US. He must be removed.

Yes, yes, degree is everything, I agree, but stealing a penny, or a million, it is still theft.

I posted a link about the current corrruption going on right now....
Inside trading by political staff...
Not one reply.

And ya wonder why people are so dumb.

Well, we did elect a reality tv show host - so, there's your answer.

Title: Re: We Lack Leadership
Post by pg on 09/26/17 at 07:19:34

253B343538253E23510 wrote:

Wait, Obama caused this drift? HA! No, sorry. As much as you might push against it, the only thing Obama did was shine a very bright light on the institutional racism that still exists in the county.

While it is certainly not all his fault he did still the pot at every opportunity. Everything from "if I had a son," not addressing radical Islam, to giving a civil rights speech at the funeral for the fallen Dallas PD officers. He did his fair share......

Best regards,

Title: Re: We Lack Leadership
Post by MnSpring on 09/26/17 at 07:37:21

Yep, so, some people, want a, Politician.
To talk smooth and polished, and very nice to you,
With their left hand on your shoulder,
in a show of, ‘You are Important’,
While their right hand, is taking your, WALLET, out of your back pocket.
And THAT, is what they think a POTUS should be.
And if so, everything will be all right!

(Notice: their will be some, ’Snowflakes’, who will infer, ‘left/right’, is a, Freudian, political slip. It is because most people shake hands with their right hand)

Title: Re: We Lack Leadership
Post by raydawg on 09/26/17 at 08:46:53

667877767B667D60120 wrote:

[quote author=7A69716C697F6F080 link=1506364534/0#7 date=1506375419]What the liberals fail to grasp is that Trump is an extension of Clinton and Obama.
I have said many times before their lax of the symbolism of the office, so they could be hip and cool, Trump has exploited it to its extreme.

To go on the late night shows and play a sax, joke about the opposition, for Obama to get involved in local issues, like Trevor Martin, saying if he had a son, etc.....
Has caused this drift....

Wait, Obama caused this drift? HA! No, sorry. As much as you might push against it, the only thing Obama did was shine a very bright light on the institutional racism that still exists in the county. You can whine and complain all you want about how "the libs just call everyone a racist", but that's a cop out.

Look at the facts - how many prior presidents had their birth certificates questioned? How many times was Obama accused of being a Muslim? How many posts did you see calling them "monkeys" - hey, even someone on this forum called him a "porch black person". No, Obama wasn't the "great unifier", but to blame him for the current divide is way off.

Our current president has done more to divide this country in 9 months than anyone in the history of the US. He must be removed.

Yes, yes, degree is everything, I agree, but stealing a penny, or a million, it is still theft.

I posted a link about the current corrruption going on right now....
Inside trading by political staff...
Not one reply.

And ya wonder why people are so dumb.

Well, we did elect a reality tv show host - so, there's your answer.
[/quote]

Blame Obama
Blame Bush
Blame Trump

What is the commonality?

Your a piece of the problem, deny it all you want.....
It will just keep this insanity alive and well.

Read my comment again.
I did not blame Obama.
My observation was that you change the decorum of the "office"
It has consequences.

To say all this division has been the result of 6 months is just plane silly.
It goes back before he even was on the radar screen.
What many have issue with, is that the "other" views were squashed under the threat and consequences of PC.

Do deny such, is to deny reality......

However, you can still call me a name.

Title: Re: We Lack Leadership
Post by T And T Garage on 09/26/17 at 09:23:26

21322A37322434530 wrote:

Blame Obama
Blame Bush
Blame Trump

What is the commonality?

Your a piece of the problem, deny it all you want.....
It will just keep this insanity alive and well.

Read my comment again.
I did not blame Obama. - Perhaps not directly, but you seem to overlook the elephant in the room...
My observation was that you change the decorum of the "office"
It has consequences.

I find it almost hilarious that you put Clinton and Obama in the same category as tweety when referencing "change the decorum".

I honestly don't understand how anyone can't see that this president has done more damage to the office than any other president in history. And I include the stories of Johnson pulling out his johnson!!

Somehow you've chosen to ignore much of what Obama was put through as the first black president. Again, no, he wasn't the "greatest" but he had more class in his pinky that this moron does in his whole family.

But whatever - you seem to want to blame the whole system and look beyond our president's threats to private citizens being fired for expressing their First Amendment rights.

Seriously, you honestly think that if Obama had said that "any pro athlete who doesn't take a knee during the Anthem should be fired" - wouldn't have resulted in mass hysteria on the right calling for his immediate impeachment - you are truly out of touch.

Answer this - why ISN'T he being held to ANY standard? Did Clinton ever talk while being recorded about "grabbing pu$$ies"? Did Obama ever mock a handicapped man during a speech? Did Reagan ever call private citizens "sons-of-b!tches" in a public speech?

Face it - we as a country screwed up HUGE by electing this man-child. Never in the history of the office has there ever been a man so thin-skinned and incompetent. If it's not on the teleprompter, he sounds like a child.

The only way to make this any better is to remove this buffoon before he starts a war with NK. Yeah, pence isn't much better - but he's better than tweety.

Title: Re: We Lack Leadership
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/26/17 at 09:29:51

How would YOU deal with Kim?
Trump was in the news because the hurricane problems weren't dealt with intelligently. The media had a field day ripping the lack of preparation.

Ohhh, wait, no..

Title: Re: We Lack Leadership
Post by pg on 09/26/17 at 09:57:38

372926272A372C31430 wrote:

Answer this - why ISN'T he being held to ANY standard? Did Clinton ever talk while being recorded about "grabbing pu$$ies"? Did Obama ever mock a handicapped man during a speech? Did Reagan ever call private citizens "sons-of-b!tches" in a public speech?

Clinton actually grabbed them, Obama made fun of the special Olympics on Jay Leno, and Regan didn't talk - he just took care of business.

Best regards,

Title: Re: We Lack Leadership
Post by T And T Garage on 09/26/17 at 15:51:18

5F484E424D5D2F0 wrote:

[quote author=372926272A372C31430 link=1506364534/0#13 date=1506443006]
Answer this - why ISN'T he being held to ANY standard? Did Clinton ever talk while being recorded about "grabbing pu$$ies"? Did Obama ever mock a handicapped man during a speech? Did Reagan ever call private citizens "sons-of-b!tches" in a public speech?

Clinton actually grabbed them, Obama made fun of the special Olympics on Jay Leno, and Regan didn't talk - he just took care of business.

Best regards,[/quote]

;D Swing and a miss!

Clinton did more than that - but he didn't brag about it.

Obama made a stupid comparison - oh - and then he APOLOGIZED.

Reagan was an actor... but at least he was a decent man.

Title: Re: We Lack Leadership
Post by pg on 09/26/17 at 16:30:55

312F20212C312A37450 wrote:

Swing and a miss!

That was a stupendous retort and you know it! I bet you didn't remember Barry making fun of the Special Olympics....

Best regards,

Title: Re: We Lack Leadership
Post by MnSpring on 09/26/17 at 18:37:24

And their are, How Many States in the Union ??????
Yea, Never mind, a POTUS,

(Who is adorned and LOVED by one)

does Not need to Know that.

Title: Re: We Lack Leadership
Post by MnSpring on 09/26/17 at 18:46:23

"...Reagan was an actor… but at least he was a decent man..."

OMG, OMG, OMG

The Best POTUS, in my Lifetime,
(Oh, JFK was Second)
A, A… H… Admits it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OMG !!!!!!!!!!

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: We Lack Leadership
Post by T And T Garage on 09/27/17 at 05:21:10

2B3C3A3639295B0 wrote:

[quote author=312F20212C312A37450 link=1506364534/15#16 date=1506466278] Swing and a miss!

That was a stupendous retort and you know it! I bet you didn't remember Barry making fun of the Special Olympics....

Um, yeah, I did. That's why I posted - "Obama made a stupid comparison - oh - and then he APOLOGIZED."

Pay attention, huh?

Best regards,[/quote]

Title: Re: We Lack Leadership
Post by pg on 09/27/17 at 14:28:50

So he makes fun of retarded people.... He makes light of working class Americans who cling to their guns & religion. He straight up tells people they did they didn't build their own business.

Are you paying attention?

Best regards,

Title: Re: We Lack Leadership
Post by T And T Garage on 09/27/17 at 19:23:57

2334323E3121530 wrote:

So he makes fun of retarded people....

Do you actually know what he did? You may want to look it up and find out what exactly happened.

He makes light of working class Americans who cling to their guns & religion. No, he made light of closed minded people. Whassa matter? Did he strike a nerve?

He straight up tells people they did they didn't build their own business.

LOL - soooo typical. Hey pg - actually READ what he said. He was talking about the roads TO GET TO YOUR BUSINESS.

I can't believe you don't know that... actually, I can. ;D

Are you paying attention?

Good advice for you, isn't it?

Best regards,

Title: Re: We Lack Leadership
Post by pg on 09/28/17 at 03:20:12

726C63626F726974060 wrote:

[quote author=2334323E3121530 link=1506364534/15#21 date=1506547730]So he makes fun of retarded people....

Do you actually know what he did? You may want to look it up and find out what exactly happened.

I already looked it up and he sure did...

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vY-CRPh57Sg[/media]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vY-CRPh57Sg

He makes light of working class Americans who cling to their guns & religion. No, he made light of closed minded people. Whassa matter? Did he strike a nerve?

By your own admission he is making fun of a definitive segment of the American population.

He straight up tells people they did they didn't build their own business.

LOL - soooo typical. Hey pg - actually READ what he said. He was talking about the roads TO GET TO YOUR BUSINESS.

I can't believe you don't know that... actually, I can. ;D

Obama "revealed a level of resentment toward the private sector that was startling."

Are you paying attention?

Good advice for you, isn't it?

Best regards,

[/quote]

Liberals are exposed as having an immense double standard. Ultimately, if their guy says it, it's all okay.

Best regards,

Title: Re: We Lack Leadership
Post by T And T Garage on 09/28/17 at 05:32:35

584F49454A5A280 wrote:

[quote author=726C63626F726974060 link=1506364534/15#22 date=1506565437][quote author=2334323E3121530 link=1506364534/15#21 date=1506547730]So he makes fun of retarded people....

Do you actually know what he did? You may want to look it up and find out what exactly happened.

I already looked it up and he sure did...

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vY-CRPh57Sg[/media]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vY-CRPh57Sg

But unlike our current "president" - HE formally apologized - so there's that.

No, he made light of closed minded people. Whassa matter? Did he strike a nerve?

By your own admission he is making fun of a definitive segment of the American population.

I was wrong. He DIDN'T make light of anyone - in fact, he was showing compassion:

"You go into these small towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing's replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton Administration, and the Bush Administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

He straight up tells people they did they didn't build their own business.

LOL - soooo typical. Hey pg - actually READ what he said. He was talking about the roads TO GET TO YOUR BUSINESS.

I can't believe you don't know that... actually, I can. ;D

Obama "revealed a level of resentment toward the private sector that was startling."

That's an opinion taken from a flawed viewpoint - because it was taken out of context. Here:

"If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.

The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together."

Are you paying attention?

Good advice for you, isn't it?

Best regards,

[/quote]

Liberals are exposed as having an immense double standard. Ultimately, if their guy says it, it's all okay.

Best regards,
[/quote]

Republicans are exposed as having an immense double standard. Ultimately, if their guy says it, it's all okay. <<<< THAT'S the proper way to say that.

Don't believe me - just ask any republican who votes with tweety. Find out how many vacation days has he taken. Look how many times he's been married and had affair while being married. etc., etc., etc....

Title: Re: We Lack Leadership
Post by pg on 09/28/17 at 08:06:44

Barry still insulted large number of Christians with his clinging to guns & religions comment and to say other wise is simply asinine.

"The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together."

Regarding that bull nuts, he simply despises capitalism and wanted to socialize private profit.

Best regards,

Title: Re: We Lack Leadership
Post by T And T Garage on 09/28/17 at 10:38:18

2B3C3A3639295B0 wrote:

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Sorry pg - you just can't win this one (either).....you must be used to that by now.

Title: Re: We Lack Leadership
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/28/17 at 20:49:43

LOL - soooo typical. Hey pg - actually READ what he said. He was talking about the roads TO GET TO YOUR BUSINESS.

I've heard plenty, but not that.
Can you show me why I should believe that?

Title: Re: We Lack Leadership
Post by pg on 09/29/17 at 03:12:04

233C3A3D20271626162E3C307B490 wrote:

LOL - soooo typical. Hey pg - actually READ what he said. He was talking about the roads TO GET TO YOUR BUSINESS.

I've heard plenty, but not that.
Can you show me why I should believe that?

Roads, not too terribly difficult to lay asphalt. Even so it is paid in part by the people innovating and starting new businesses.

He was no friend to capitalism. Everything from "Fundamentally transform America," redistribution of wealth, reformed labor laws, efforts to bankrupt the coal industry, The Keystone Pipeline debacle, and of course Barry Care.

Best regards,

Title: Re: We Lack Leadership
Post by WebsterMark on 09/29/17 at 05:19:21

Back to the point, we have leadership. The leftist, the socialist, the anti-Americanist, the media, the entertainment culture, the brainwashed blacks etc don't like it, but the video of Trump pushing that guy aside so he could get to the front for a photo is very telling. All of those people are used to being the alpha in any group, but they knew who the big dog really was. No one objected, they parted like the Red Sea.

Title: Re: We Lack Leadership
Post by MnSpring on 09/29/17 at 18:42:36

1E2C2B3A3D2C3B04283B22490 wrote:

Yep, a ‘LEADER”.
“…but they knew who the big dog really was….’

Understanding what, ‘Canine/Pack’, behavior , ‘REALLY”, is.

Their is a, "LEADER”, and the, ‘Rest of the ….”
‘Keep, ‘NIPPING, at his his, ‘Heals’