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Message started by T And T Garage on 10/26/17 at 08:34:22

Title: Grab Your Ankles....
Post by T And T Garage on 10/26/17 at 08:34:22

Well, all you folks that earn over $5 million a year will be happy... as well as your rich families that leave you over $4 million in inheritance.

But to the rest of us, well... this won't be good.  And to the poor - I apologize in advance, 'cause you're all screwed...

http://www.yahoo.com/news/house-gop-moves-pass-budget-071424465.html

Title: Re: Grab Your Ankles....
Post by raydawg on 10/26/17 at 09:03:17

Did you see this?

9 million dollars spent, and no ones anything about it, WTF?

Gee, no wonder they bust budgets, they let 9 million just what, disappear without knowing, WTF?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/10/26/clinton-mum-on-fusion-gps-scandal-as-dems-dossier-denials-pile-up.html

Title: Re: Grab Your Ankles....
Post by T And T Garage on 10/26/17 at 09:13:14


4D5E465B5E48583F0 wrote:
Did you see this?

9 million dollars spent, and no ones anything about it, WTF?

Gee, no wonder they bust budgets, they let 9 million just what, disappear without knowing, WTF?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/10/26/clinton-mum-on-fusion-gps-scandal-as-dems-dossier-denials-pile-up.html


BFD....

First off, this post is about the tax cut.

Second, this payment would not have come out of the US budget (you can't be that dumb).

And thrid... well, read on....

Former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper on Wednesday disputed President Donald Trump's characterization of the now-infamous dossier of allegations about the President and Russia.

When asked on CNN's "Erin Burnett OutFront" about Trump calling the document a "fake" dossier, Clapper responded, "I don't think that is an accurate characterization for the entirety of the dossier."


He added: "The key thing is, doesn't matter who paid for it. It's what the dossier said and the extent to which it was corroborated or not."



So, there's that.

Title: Re: Grab Your Ankles....
Post by raydawg on 10/26/17 at 09:23:33

HAHAHAHA......

Yeah, they know nothing about 9 million.....HAHAHA

Title: Re: Grab Your Ankles....
Post by T And T Garage on 10/26/17 at 09:39:05


3B28302D283E2E490 wrote:
HAHAHAHA......

Yeah, they know nothing about 9 million.....HAHAHA


Who's they?  Washington?  Wrong again - the clinton campaign and the DNC would have paid for it.  Oh, but that still not proved out yet.  But Washington had nothing to do with it (which is what you first inferred).

And again - "The key thing is, doesn't matter who paid for it. It's what the dossier said and the extent to which it was corroborated or not."

Please ray, try to stay on topic of the original post, hmm?

Title: Re: Grab Your Ankles....
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/26/17 at 09:50:43

which is what you first inferred)

He implied.
Look it up.

And you know nothing about how the tax deal will work.
Or how much of the tax burden is carried by the people you want more from.
This is good for the people who have been falling out of the middle class.
Not sure about the 401k thing yet.

Title: Re: Grab Your Ankles....
Post by raydawg on 10/26/17 at 10:14:37


697778797469726F1D0 wrote:
[quote author=3B28302D283E2E490 link=1509032062/0#3 date=1509035013]HAHAHAHA......

Yeah, they know nothing about 9 million.....HAHAHA


Who's they?  Washington?  Wrong again - the clinton campaign and the DNC would have paid for it.  Oh, but that still not proved out yet.  But Washington had nothing to do with it (which is what you first inferred).

And again - "The key thing is, doesn't matter who paid for it. It's what the dossier said and the extent to which it was corroborated or not."

Please ray, try to stay on topic of the original post, hmm? [/quote]

STOP IT...... oh my gawd, you are hilarious, but please stop it, oh my gawd, stop, I need to catch my breath

Title: Re: Grab Your Ankles....
Post by Serowbot on 10/26/17 at 10:21:45

What!!???  Hillary had to pay for her own opposition research?...
She couldn't get Putin to pay for it?... :-/


Title: Re: Grab Your Ankles....
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/26/17 at 10:28:24

She used campaign donations and didn't report it.
She's a criminal.
Suck it up, buttercup.
That's what she is.

Title: Re: Grab Your Ankles....
Post by T And T Garage on 10/26/17 at 10:41:53


7F6C74696C7A6A0D0 wrote:
STOP IT...... oh my gawd, you are hilarious, but please stop it, oh my gawd, stop, I need to catch my breath



Sad... you really should try and use original material at least...

Thanks for playing ray.  Now go learn the difference between the DNC and the white house, 'mkay?

Thanks.

Title: Re: Grab Your Ankles....
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/26/17 at 10:45:41

TT you're hilarious.
Gutless good grief GUTLESS..
but funny..

Title: Re: Grab Your Ankles....
Post by Serowbot on 10/26/17 at 10:56:47


736C6A6D70774676467E6C602B190 wrote:
She used campaign donations and didn't report it.
She's a criminal.
Suck it up, buttercup.
That's what she is.

Trump is using campaign donations to pay legal fess in the investigations...
You think donors wanted that?...

Opposition research is part of campaigning...

Title: Re: Grab Your Ankles....
Post by raydawg on 10/26/17 at 14:12:39

You are absolutely right Bot, except they presented this as a factual investigation done by an entitiy that had no dog in the fight, which was the basis of the new investigation......

Why not be open and honest in the beginning then?

Don't answer, again.

Title: Re: Grab Your Ankles....
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/26/17 at 14:12:39

I wouldn't expect you to know
But
She was supposed to report it, and didn't
And
The law allows the use of donations for legal expenses.
And you don't have to pay for the education.

Title: Re: Grab Your Ankles....
Post by WebsterMark on 10/26/17 at 17:30:57

Former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper on Wednesday disputed President Donald Trump's characterization of the now-infamous dossier of allegations about the President and Russia.

When asked on CNN's "Erin Burnett OutFront" about Trump calling the document a "fake" dossier, Clapper responded, "I don't think that is an accurate characterization for the entirety of the dossier."

He added: "The key thing is, doesn't matter who paid for it. It's what the dossier said and the extent to which it was corroborated or not."
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Well Director Clapper, you were the Dir of Natl Intelligence, you had this for a year and you couldn't corroborate anything?

As Director. "it doesn't matter who paid for it?" Really?

"...the entirety of the document...." Yea? Which part is accurate? The spelling of Trump's name? Other than that, apparently nothing else.

Hilary will now dodge real reporters even more so than normal. She's F'd. All The Clinton Foundation's dark secrets and crimes are going to slowly bubble upwards. No one is going to fall on their swords for them any longer.

Title: Re: Grab Your Ankles....
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/26/17 at 18:07:27


342B2D2A3730013101392B276C5E0 wrote:
I wouldn't expect you to know
But
She was supposed to report it, and didn't
And
The law allows the use of donations for legal expenses.
And you don't have to pay for the education.



And, Trump junior having a MEETING where nobody was paid, nothing really came out of it, THAT was Treason,
Ohhh, but hiring someone who buys Bullshit and using That as justification for investigating, well, That's just Normal.
FFS,

Title: Re: Grab Your Ankles....
Post by T And T Garage on 10/27/17 at 06:28:09

Too funny... no one can ever stay on topic....

I guess all you guys that are close to retirement are just fine with tweety f-ing with your medicare, huh?  Oh, and all you guys my age are fine with him messing with your 401K contributions, right?

Naw - you all go ahead and talk about a nothing burger with hillary and the opposition research she did through a third party (just like any candidate does) and compare that to the tweety's son having direct contact with foreign nationals that he was told were in support of his father, him lying about it, then his father lying about it, then admitting to it, etc., etc., ...

Yeah, you go ahead and rave about that while your representatives rob you blind in your retirement.

See how that works out for ya.

Title: Re: Grab Your Ankles....
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/27/17 at 06:49:20

Your ability to pretend is shocking.
Your concerns about the 401k, that I mentioned earlier, seems on target.

Title: Re: Grab Your Ankles....
Post by WebsterMark on 10/27/17 at 07:33:45

Nothing is going to happen to 401ks. If there's one thing that would cause an armed revolt (of which I would join in on) it would be messing with existing 401ks.

Title: Re: Grab Your Ankles....
Post by Trippah on 10/27/17 at 08:11:40

401 tax deferment is bad for balancing the books now (NOT a real issue for the Republicans who as usual, trot out the famously inaccurate prediction that increases of  taxes from tax cuts to the rich and, to businesses)(disproven during the real actor's presidency - u remember, a rising tide floats all boats when actually is just flooded the wetland making the swamp we now have). :D

Can anyone really explain why capital gains are treated differently?  

I find it interesting but not surprising in a country that touts itself as best for financial mobility, money (wealth) that is earned by going to work is taxed highest, while wealth that is earned from disposable income (investment)(wealth) and inheritance is taxed lowest?  

Tell me again how this helps mobility, it seems to favor a wealthy class and poorer worker class.

If you want real tax reform, include all wealth as it is transferred from one to another.

Title: Re: Grab Your Ankles....
Post by verslagen1 on 10/27/17 at 08:21:06


485659585548534E3C0 wrote:
Too funny... no one can ever stay on topic....

With a crappy generic title like "Grab Your Ankles" you expect anyone to remember what the topic is?

Title: Re: Grab Your Ankles....
Post by T And T Garage on 10/27/17 at 08:41:37


162423323524330C20332A410 wrote:
Nothing is going to happen to 401ks. If there's one thing that would cause an armed revolt (of which I would join in on) it would be messing with existing 401ks.


Better check your sources.... tweety is waffling...

Title: Re: Grab Your Ankles....
Post by T And T Garage on 10/27/17 at 08:42:30


74524950504148200 wrote:
401 tax deferment is bad for balancing the books now (NOT a real issue for the Republicans who as usual, trot out the famously inaccurate prediction that increases of  taxes from tax cuts to the rich and, to businesses)(disproven during the real actor's presidency - u remember, a rising tide floats all boats when actually is just flooded the wetland making the swamp we now have). :D

Can anyone really explain why capital gains are treated differently?  

I find it interesting but not surprising in a country that touts itself as best for financial mobility, money (wealth) that is earned by going to work is taxed highest, while wealth that is earned from disposable income (investment)(wealth) and inheritance is taxed lowest?  

Tell me again how this helps mobility, it seems to favor a wealthy class and poorer worker class.

If you want real tax reform, include all wealth as it is transferred from one to another.


Well put!!!

Title: Re: Grab Your Ankles....
Post by T And T Garage on 10/27/17 at 08:43:46


352631302F2224262D72430 wrote:
[quote author=485659585548534E3C0 link=1509032062/15#16 date=1509110889]Too funny... no one can ever stay on topic....

With a crappy generic title like "Grab Your Ankles" you expect anyone to remember what the topic is?[/quote]


Oh right... it's the title of the post's fault...  Got it!

Hey vers, why not blame the color of the font while you're at it?

;D

Title: Re: Grab Your Ankles....
Post by WebsterMark on 10/27/17 at 10:17:54


1C3A2138382920480 wrote:
401 tax deferment is bad for balancing the books now (NOT a real issue for the Republicans who as usual, trot out the famously inaccurate prediction that increases of  taxes from tax cuts to the rich and, to businesses)(disproven during the real actor's presidency - u remember, a rising tide floats all boats when actually is just flooded the wetland making the swamp we now have). :D

Can anyone really explain why capital gains are treated differently?  

I find it interesting but not surprising in a country that touts itself as best for financial mobility, money (wealth) that is earned by going to work is taxed highest, while wealth that is earned from disposable income (investment)(wealth) and inheritance is taxed lowest?  

Tell me again how this helps mobility, it seems to favor a wealthy class and poorer worker class.

If you want real tax reform, include all wealth as it is transferred from one to another.


I could defend that but to start, I'd suggest instead of looking at it that capital gains tax is too low, how about considering that income tax is too high?

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