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Title: Deductions........ Post by raydawg on 11/16/17 at 12:17:00 The house bill: For individuals, it axes a number of popular deductions, including the state and local tax deduction, medical expenses deduction and student loan deductions but would double the standard deduction and condense the seven tax brackets into four. Question: Do businesses get to deduct ALL taxes, on their income? If yes, then why are not folk allowed the same, after all, are we not in business for ourselves? On a personal level, I come out ahead, because my standard (deduction) is doubled. I have no state tax, never meet the threshold to claim medical, nor do I have student loans. So it looks like about 2 grand for the wife and I. |
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Title: Re: Deductions........ Post by Trippah on 11/17/17 at 06:20:29 Check the math since they are also recommending eliminating the personal exemptions. The closest I came to the SALT is when I moved to NY state and still missed by a bit (mandatory IRA withdraw) & capital gains of stocks to help buy the new house. As a vet, who then after active duty did 17 years in the reserves, am thankful that while giving more to big corporations and saying how much they appreciate our service, still screw us by taking a dollar of Social Security Retirement for every two dollars I get for my military retirement - gee I get to partially fund myself. I live to serve, much like a turkey. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Deductions........ Post by T And T Garage on 11/17/17 at 06:27:04 57716A7373626B030 wrote:
No no Trippah - this tax cut is for the middle class! Now look over there, there's Al Franken!! |
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Title: Re: Deductions........ Post by Serowbot on 11/17/17 at 07:13:34 05233821213039510 wrote:
Happy Thanksgiving... :-? |
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Title: Re: Deductions........ Post by raydawg on 11/17/17 at 07:23:23 597F647D7D6C650D0 wrote:
Thank you for sharing your story and experience......that helps. |
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Title: Re: Deductions........ Post by raydawg on 11/17/17 at 07:56:50 Oh, Laverne and Shirley, go complain about thread jacks, and not replying, etc..... Useless as the tits on my chest, that ex Sen. Franken, would love to touch, I reckon ::) |
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Title: Re: Deductions........ Post by T And T Garage on 11/17/17 at 08:34:32 63706875706676110 wrote:
Not to be too conceded, but is this directed at me? If so, WTF are you talking about? LOL - and you're asking me if I'm on any medications?.... ;D |
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Title: Re: Deductions........ Post by Trippah on 11/17/17 at 11:31:37 U R Welcome Rawdawg - always willing to share stories that help illuminate the intense level of B.S. that flows forth from D.C. ;D Serow - I have ramped up my Tai Chi as the ducking, bobbing, and weaving season is upon us. ;D Ooops, almost typed boobing season, but not as fast as Big Al. ;) |
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Title: Re: Deductions........ Post by raydawg on 11/17/17 at 12:44:36 362827262B362D30420 wrote:
Not to be too conceded, but is this directed at me? If so, WTF are you talking about? LOL - and you're asking me if I'm on any medications?.... ;D[/quote] I could care less. Opinions are like a$$holes - everyone's got one. |
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Title: Re: Deductions........ Post by raydawg on 11/17/17 at 12:49:18 5B7D667F7F6E670F0 wrote:
Trippah.....let me ask you this question: Do you think having a woman in office, as president, might give us a unique opportunity, and chance, at solving some of the issues that have stymied our governmental policies at fixing things? Note: I exclude Hillary, as she has a sack bigger than most of the guys up there already. PS: I am not to keen on the idea of giving my "money" to help me, to a employer first..... With the idea it will trickle down to me. If a "tax" break/consideration is considered a good idea to simulate growth, then why not give it to me directly? I will use the analogy of a collected tax, earmarked for a local cause, collected locally (in state) having to pass through Washington/DC first, before it returns back to its need..... Tell me, does that ring of inefficiency, or just another opportunity for another hand, in the cookie jar? |
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Title: Re: Deductions........ Post by T And T Garage on 11/17/17 at 12:51:54 3D2E362B2E38284F0 wrote:
Not to be too conceded, but is this directed at me? If so, WTF are you talking about? LOL - and you're asking me if I'm on any medications?.... ;D[/quote] I could care less. Opinions are like a$$holes - everyone's got one. [/quote] Hey look at ray! He's learned how to copy and paste my comments! Good boy ray... good boy! |
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Title: Re: Deductions........ Post by raydawg on 11/17/17 at 12:58:01 3E202F2E233E25384A0 wrote:
Not to be too conceded, but is this directed at me? If so, WTF are you talking about? LOL - and you're asking me if I'm on any medications?.... ;D[/quote] I could care less. Opinions are like a$$holes - everyone's got one. [/quote] Hey look at ray! He's learned how to copy and paste my comments! Good boy ray... good boy! [/quote] I could care less. Opinions are like a$$holes - everyone's got one. |
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Title: Re: Deductions........ Post by T And T Garage on 11/17/17 at 13:03:34 67746C71746272150 wrote:
Not to be too conceded, but is this directed at me? If so, WTF are you talking about? LOL - and you're asking me if I'm on any medications?.... ;D[/quote] I could care less. Opinions are like a$$holes - everyone's got one. [/quote] Hey look at ray! He's learned how to copy and paste my comments! Good boy ray... good boy! [/quote] I could care less. Opinions are like a$$holes - everyone's got one. [/quote] Nice, here we go again. Childish responses. Seriously ray, how do you have the gall to post things like: "Will we keep on fighting each other, deflecting, blaming, etc......the other person/party, or will we clean house?" and expect to be taken seriously? You're the living embodiment of the conservative hypocrisy. You ask ME how old I am and respond like this.... HA! Pathetic, but not surprising. Hey, you may want to chat with web - his tactic was to just post the word "liar" about 30 times... ;D (and you conservatives think you're smart??... lol) |
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Title: Re: Deductions........ Post by raydawg on 11/17/17 at 14:13:01 It works for you, it works for me/us...... I could care less. Opinions are like a$$holes - everyone's got one Own it. Good reply/response for you. Good enough for us. You call out folk, we call out folk. Acceptable for you/acceptable for us. I could care less. Opinions are like a$$holes - everyone's got one If I put a ribbon around it, would that help you to see its your own gift, we give you? |
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Title: Re: Deductions........ Post by T And T Garage on 11/17/17 at 14:23:26 7B68706D687E6E090 wrote:
No ray, I'm good. I won't accept a gift back I gave in earnest. (what's that called again?) Oh right! Reneging. (what did you think I meant?) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Deductions........ Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/17/17 at 14:56:23 but, just like a typical conservative, you fail to see the rest of the message I posted and use it completely without context. (Hey, Is that like linking to a video of a guy admitting lying for ratings and someone pretending that by linking to the proof of a lie I was Actually supporting the liar? Ohhh, intentionally disingenuous, attempting to gaslight me, Naah, not you. Are you Paid to do this crap or are you naturally a POS? |
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Title: Re: Deductions........ Post by raydawg on 11/17/17 at 15:24:46 495650574A4D7C4C7C44565A11230 wrote:
Inquiring minds want to know...... ;D |
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Title: Re: Deductions........ Post by T And T Garage on 11/17/17 at 15:26:13 44574F52574151360 wrote:
Inquiring minds want to know...... ;D [/quote] Want to know what? |
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Title: Re: Deductions........ Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/17/17 at 18:02:56 Yeah, that |
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Title: Re: Deductions........ Post by MnSpring on 11/17/17 at 18:42:42 Want to know what? Don’t understand the Question ? |
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Title: Re: Deductions........ Post by raydawg on 11/17/17 at 19:48:52 Hey you guys, maybe we should type S.........L.........O.........W.........E..........R........ Give him a chance to catch up with his, W...........I............T But then again, horse, water, maybe not ;D |
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Title: Re: Deductions........ Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/17/17 at 20:24:30 Before he got here there were actually some discussions. He showed up. And offers Nothing on the forum, just stomps around in here disrupting any thread that invites thinking. He's a Troll. |
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Title: Re: Deductions........ Post by Trippah on 11/18/17 at 06:55:46 The local native populations (Seneca, Mohawk, etc) used an interesting political strategy - the clans were matrilineal - meaning the gals were the family (clan) heads and ran them. Our Olde English system is of course Patrilineal - the guys were the leaders. In time of War, the Natives would select a war "chief" who would lead the tribe's war effort. This division actually makes a lot of sense. Women worked together to build their community and meet the needs of shelter and edible foods, as well as the core human goal of having and raising children. The Men went hunting, and as need, fought the wars (usually raiding party size). This allowed each sex to maximize their natural tendencies. SO, the answer is, yes, I think a woman as President would be fine. She would be more attuned to what the families of America need -rather than the presently outrageous "Defense" budget now wasting enormous wealth killing every sand dune in Eurasia which has ruled our budgets most of my 70 years. |
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Title: Re: Deductions........ Post by raydawg on 11/18/17 at 08:54:27 4D6B7069697871190 wrote:
Ah, thank you....... I'm not a dumb as I look ;D As to defense budget, it does provide subsistence, it really is a good example of trickle down economy. It also shows a reckless disregard of what the product instills upon our thoughts, of a peaceful resolution and co-habitations Think of it this was...... In a disagreement, a person tells you their intent is for a peaceful resolution to the existing problem between the two of you..... While revealing a six shooter strapped to their waist. Tell me, what is your minds natural inclination at this point...... Relaxed and opened, or closed and defensive? Yeah, a women president might say, lets talk about it after a little romp in bed..... Man, that has my willingness, undivided attention, instantly ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Deductions........ Post by Trippah on 11/18/17 at 19:38:39 Any smart woman would tell you, lets fix the problem and then we will look into a possible romp. |
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Title: Re: Deductions........ Post by raydawg on 11/18/17 at 20:12:59 16302B3232232A420 wrote:
OK, you will be second on the ticket, you already know the routine....... Just gotta find her now. ;D |
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Title: Re: Deductions........ Post by ruckus430 on 11/18/17 at 23:47:36 Lol so predictable, can only disagree with the god emperor when he comes for their pockets. They are just now realizing that all those "tax" breaks for his voters really mean his donors. Lol its well deserved if they pass this abomination of a budget. Thats what you get for watching faux news and brietbart all day, got the wool pulled right over your eyes, buuuttt no I gues the Tax Policy Center Analysis for the budget is a left wing media conspiracy against the republican party. http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/feature/analysis-tax-cuts-and-jobs-act Yall just have no defence in the face of facts. I got no sympathy if you voted for this trumpster fire of a presidency. I can afford the payments so Im good, but as they say you can't fix stupid. |
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Title: Re: Deductions........ Post by raydawg on 11/19/17 at 09:47:14 474F401A1D1E2E0 wrote:
Hey, hope you continue to be so blessed with wealth, you are so lucky! Is this little cheap savage just a toy for you? |
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Title: Re: Deductions........ Post by T And T Garage on 11/19/17 at 19:15:47 2D252A707774440 wrote:
Here here!!! +100 (vers, need me to explain that?) ;D |
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Title: Re: Deductions........ Post by verslagen1 on 11/20/17 at 09:46:47 2F313E3F322F34295B0 wrote:
No matter how many split personalities you have, you still only get 1 vote. What your doctor charges you is another matter. |
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Title: Re: Deductions........ Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/20/17 at 09:57:37 predictable, can only disagree with the god emperor when he comes for their pocket Watching this clown pump bullshit ,,, yawn.. It's Bullshit, everyone has criticised elements of Trumps administration. Unlike the lefties who have only one eye, we see when he's doing things that aren't cool. But you ignore it, pretend it's nonexistent and project your blind loyalty to the left onto us. Your admission that you only post here to Mess with them Was telling. |
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Title: Re: Deductions........ Post by raydawg on 11/20/17 at 10:44:52 283731362B2C1D2D1D25373B70420 wrote:
Yes, I agree Jog. The only one I believe is a Trump supporter in the same vein the liberals support their folk at all cost, is Web..... And I think even that is weak. But when you saturate yourself with negativity NEWS, your perspective is no longer valid, but tainted to the point of propaganda and indoctrination, useless, as far a repairing and fixing the ills of our nation, which are many, and new ones arise daily, sad. |
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Title: Re: Deductions........ Post by T And T Garage on 11/20/17 at 11:14:44 3F2C34292C3A2A4D0 wrote:
Yes, I agree Jog. The only one I believe is a Trump supporter in the same vein the liberals support their folk at all cost, is Web..... And I think even that is weak. But when you saturate yourself with negativity NEWS, your perspective is no longer valid, but tainted to the point of propaganda and indoctrination, useless, as far a repairing and fixing the ills of our nation, which are many, and new ones arise daily, sad. [/quote] Hmmm... I'm curious ray... You say that you don't support our current president, but I think you probably voted for him. Fair enough, we all make mistakes. If that is indeed the case, then who do you support? I realize there's not a presidential race for a while, but looking back on the entire republican field and Bernie - whose ideals do you support? Now, I don't really expect an answer, but I do honestly wonder. I think I make it pretty obvious who and what I support - but you just seem to be anti-liberal instead of pro-anything. In fact, I think the only other thing you post besides fox news clips are religious texts and clap trap of the like. Again, I don't expect a response other than you talking about me (and how you think I'm an idiot) to someone else - but hey, at least you'll read it and it might just make you think. |
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Title: Re: Deductions........ Post by raydawg on 11/20/17 at 12:40:10 If you din’t Expect a response why even post? You have said many times you don’t even care...etc. Are you even honest with yourself? No, I dudn’t vote for him, or anybody else.... Yeah, I get it, then I am not entitled to complain. I was hoping for Bernie until he sold out to Hillary. I voted for Obama in his first election, then he sold out to the party structure and became just anothe bought politician. He got arrogant, his elections have consequences is all I needed to know of him after that, however, I never wished him ill, failure as a person, policy yes, and I never wished him silence. In a nutshell..... I am anti PC doctrine and the hypocrisy it promotes. |
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Title: Re: Deductions........ Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/20/17 at 15:31:30 Re: Deductions........ Reply #33 - Today at 20:40:10 Alert Board Moderator about this Post! Quote If you din’t Expect a response why even post? You have said many times you don’t even care...etc. Are you even honest with yourself? No, I dudn’t vote for him, or anybody else.... Yeah, I get it, then I am not entitled to complain. Just because you don't waste your time voting in a screwed up system that doesn't mean you can't point out the Bullshit. |
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Title: Re: Deductions........ Post by T And T Garage on 11/21/17 at 07:56:19 52415944415747200 wrote:
Seriously, WTF does that even mean - "PC doctrine"?? Being politically correct has a thousand different nuances to it. To say you're against being PC can be interpreted to mean you want to call all minorities their most racist nicknames.... Also, without any PC, we'd be celebrating the behaviour of the harveys and the moores of the world. Enough of the fox news talking points, huh? There is no "war on Christmas" or Christians or family values or whites or anything else they want you to fear. Sheesh! |
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Title: Re: Deductions........ Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/21/17 at 08:13:32 Why argue with such a disingenuous clown Ray? He twists things and pretends you said something and then tries to make you defend it . But I've wiped the floor with him until he hasn't got the guts to even reply to me. He's. An. Embarrassment. |
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Title: Re: Deductions........ Post by raydawg on 11/21/17 at 08:40:33 617E787F62655464546C7E72390B0 wrote:
Thanks Jog, spot on, again. |
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Title: Re: Deductions........ Post by T And T Garage on 11/21/17 at 09:11:37 392A322F2A3C2C4B0 wrote:
Thanks Jog, spot on, again. [/quote] LOL - and yet no reply to me.... very telling. If you've followed along ray, you'd know the steps leading up to my current reply/comment embargo on others in this little forum. You've not done the same thing. You've never made it clear. If you did, I'd respect your wishes. I guess that's why I asked you what I did. You seem to go with the wind and not stand for anything. It's kinda sad. But you keep doing you.... |
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Title: Re: Deductions........ Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/22/17 at 11:51:46 LOL - and yet no reply to me.... very telling. Good Grief, such blatant hypocrisy and obvious Gutlessness. Libya |
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Title: Re: Deductions........ Post by Eegore on 11/22/17 at 12:24:05 Just in case anyone here is interested in the actual topic, I currently must deduct %24 of my annual income to not owe. I'm not sure how this new format will effect me in the end but no state deductions will hit me for sure and I may have to cut up top %30 next year and set it aside for taxes. My tax analyst recommends I put aside %36 of my income next year just to be safe. |
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