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Message started by raydawg on 11/25/17 at 10:31:40

Title: This should of been "trump"
Post by raydawg on 11/25/17 at 10:31:40

Way back then.......not now.

One thing we can do is drop the nonsense of minimizing his relationship with Monica Lewinsky as a "consensual blow job." The issue, then and now, is not sex. It is power. That is the common factor in all these allegations of sexual harassment by men in high places, including President Clinton and President Trump.

You ask?

I'm not sure what there is to do about Bill Clinton now. He paid a steep price, was impeached, humiliated his family, and tarnished an otherwise impressive legacy. He is not on any ballot, nor will he ever be again.

You can admit you tried to use it to Hillary's advantage, while ignoring the truth about the complicity of the Clinton's political POWER grab....

That is not impressive, period, nor will it ever be!

I agree with the need that it should not be a partisan issue anymore, so STOP using it, and lets fix this ugliness that is rampant in our society.

the article:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/24/opinions/drop-the-partisan-nonsense-on-harassment-solis-doyle/index.html

Title: Re: This should of been "trump"
Post by MnSpring on 11/25/17 at 15:53:57

Arthur Miller, “The Crucible”
About, Salem Witch Trials, in 1690’s,
but was a statement, about McCarthyism, written in, 1953.

The, accusing, of everybody about being a, ‘Communist’,
(Right or Wong)
Is like today's, accusing of, sexual misconduct.

Yes, it has been a thing that HAS happened.
Powerful men,
in Politics, Elected, Business, etc,
Have, DONE, WRONGLY.
(a very few cases, Women)

Yet, as the acknowledgment,
of past and present deeds, come out.
It is Very important,
NOT
To let the, ‘Pendulum’, swing TO far the other way.

Less Abigail makes claims, that are not true.
And the, ‘left’, believe them.

Title: Re: This should of been "trump"
Post by raydawg on 11/25/17 at 16:04:35

Yep, its not about women, not if you are a conservative....
Nor about racism, if you are a conservative.
Or about Hispanic, if you are a conservative.

Its solely about liberal ideology, period......
FIRST AND FOREMOST.

But of course, your mamma is fatter than my mamma ;D

How highs the water mamma?

Title: Re: This should of been "trump"
Post by MnSpring on 11/25/17 at 17:58:07

60736B76736575120 wrote:

Yep, its not about women, not if you are a conservative.... Nor about racism, if you are a conservative. Or about Hispanic, if you are a conservative. Its solely about liberal ideology, period...... FIRST AND FOREMOST. But of course, your mamma is fatter than my mamma ;D How highs the water mamma?

Ray, Don’t know how to take that.
My take, on your take, is:

“‘More is Not, always, Better”

YES, the, ‘Better’, is the ‘outing’, of people,.
(regardless of Political party association)

Yet, ‘Outing’, Just, Because, and, ‘More’, just because.
would be like, Abigail in, “The Crucible”.

Another example;
one uses, ‘X’ amount of Shot, in a, ‘X’ Case, to achieve a, ‘X’’, FPS, with, ‘X’ amount of powder.
Adding More Powder, (in very most cases),
Does Not, make things, ‘better or faster’, but DANGEROUS.

‘Draining the Swamp’, is exposing people, (of ALL ‘party’s’)
That, ‘outing’, needs to be, REAL,
Not made up, because, “you did that, so I will do this”.

And enlisting someone, (Abigail), to say, something,
to get someone in hot water, Just Because.
Is Wrong. “Just the Facts …”

Here is a case in point.
( Annual Poker party, now once a year, Fri after Thanksgiving.
used to be, started 1969, I got involved in 1971)
A Fellow, who owns a ‘Water Testing’ Company, many employees.
was, ‘ACCUSED’ of, ‘Looking’.
He had a female employee, who was NOT doing the WORK she was PAID to do.
and AFTER she was FIRED, she Brought charges that, “He, LOOKED at her, when she was leaving the bathroom”.
WTF ??????????
He won, yet it Cost him 15,000.00 to Defend !!!!!!!!!!
That, is the kind of crap, that the, ‘Gimme/Gimme/Gimme', people do.

And if the, ‘’Pendulum’, swings to far.
Their will be, SO MUCH MORE !!!!!!!!!!!

Just the same in, ‘McCarthyism’.
Were their ’some’, Communists ?
SURE
Was EVERYBODY, a Communist ?
(WHO didn’t believe, EXACTLY what you believed)
NO.

So the case of, ’Sexual, improprieties’.

It’s good, that things are coming to Light.
(Again Regardless OF, Political Party)
But to, ‘do that’, JUST BECAUSE.
Or a, ‘Back atya’.
Is Pure B.S.
(And that is not, a abbreviation for Bernie Sanders)

Title: Re: This should of been "trump"
Post by raydawg on 11/25/17 at 19:27:46

Not saying more is better.....
What I am saying is that it is revealing, so much so, that those who use to throw the race card, or sex card, or...... card, to get their opposition to go on the defense, avoiding any real discussion in difference of policies, etc....
Have been revealed for who they really are, their feigning of caring a facade....

As to defending allegation, that’s a tough one for sure.
I’d love to think the loser should pay, but that really could shift, even more, the power to win to those with the deepest pockets...
Our courts are NOT about finding the truth, F no!
It’s about winning at all cost.

My wife manages a professional practice.
She has had to let go workers based on performance.
She is extremely articulate in writing up all issues and warnings given employees, documentation is king!
Even with that, after termination, some have tried to gather further compensation for wrongful termination.

Folks just don’t think, or listen, or reason, anymore.
It is like being a perpetual victim, the company owes you allegiance, and they should adjust to their demands....
They seem to think life owes them something, that they have no responsibility in assuring it...

My son, at 26 years of age, use to run a crew for a large company.
The stories he told me about workers was mind blowing.
Drunk, high, not showing up, etc....
He didn’t like firing folks but he had to inform his manager, etc...

He has since left that job to go to work for the railroad.
They have already canceled his probationary period because of his performance, etc....
His supervisor says he is an aberration to those they try to hire and employ anymore.
This is a 6 figure income, what is wrong with folks????
The railroad offers great bennies and retirement, but I guess if you think you can just demand other’s to take care of you, why not???