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Message started by justin_o_guy2 on 11/30/17 at 08:50:11

Title: An idea to consider
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/30/17 at 08:50:11

America grew and it's People were prosperous. Today America is divided into classes, and we point and blame our lack on the ones who have. But it's the system. The system ensures an imbalance that favors those positioned right.
Here's why the system needs to be changed.

vember 29, 2017
While serfs on the plantation debate the income-tax bill that is being proposed in Congress, it is incumbent on us libertarians to continue reminding people that there is nothing about this debate that has anything to do with the restoration of a free society in America. The bill might or might not make life on the plantation better for people but it won’t make them free.

A free society necessarily entails an income-tax free society. People have the natural and God-given right to keep everything they earn and, further, to decide what to do with what rightly belongs to them. That’s why we libertarians favor the elimination of the income tax (and the IRS) as well as the things that income-tax revenues are used for: mandatory welfare-state charity programs and warfare-state programs.

Proponents say that repealing the income tax and welfare-warfare state programs is impossible — pie in the sky.

Really? If that’s true, then how is it that the American people lived without the income tax and the welfare-warfare state for more than a hundred years? They obviously proved that it is entirely possible.

It all turns on the power of ideas. The United States was founded by people who believed that freedom necessarily entailed no income tax, no Social Security, Medicare, and other welfare-state programs, and no warfare, national-security-state, deep-state governmental structure. They favored a way of life in which people are free to live their lives the way they want (so long as their conduct is peaceful), a free- market economic system, and a constitutionally limited-government republic.

Later generations of Americans came to subscribe to different ideas, socialist ideas, ideas revolving around the notion that government should take care of people, including those who didn’t want the government to take care of them. That’s how we ended up with an income tax, a welfare state, and a warfare state. It’s also why we ended up living in a society based on conflict, chaos, crisis, violence, envy.

Where do we go from here? It depends on what people want. If their goal is a better life on the plantation and continued chaos and crises, they should endorse the income tax, the welfare state, and the warfare state.

On the other hand, if their goal is a life of genuine freedom and economic prosperity, they should stand for a repeal of the income tax and an abolition of the IRS and the immoral and destructive things they fund.

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Title: Re: An idea to consider
Post by raydawg on 11/30/17 at 09:29:35

Neighbors use to raise a burned down barn.....
Greet a newcomer to the region and help them to get established, etc.

Even when I was a young jerk snap the neighbors would intervene and correct my actions as needed, with my parents blessings.
They did not do it punitively, no, but out of love and concern, for me.
In other words, they invested in me, so I might become a contributing member to our society at my turn....

Much has changed Jog, and those are bygone days I'm afraid.

We are offered the advice we should learn from our past. To not make the same mistake again, removing and erasing the Confederate Memorials, from history, a good example of that thinking.....

However, where is the effort to learn from the present?

This essay on what was, is honestly a waste of, what can be, if we move forward......

I have said on here many times, if a believer in Christ lived according to the teachings he profess to follow, we could not build enough churches to worship....
Tell me, who in their right mind rejects love and acceptance?
I can think of no sane person who would....

Ok, off my pedestal......sorry.

Title: Re: An idea to consider
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/30/17 at 19:12:15

That's not really lining up with
Taxing the People