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Message started by justin_o_guy2 on 12/18/17 at 12:52:19

Title: Getting through the gears
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/18/17 at 12:52:19

http://www.motorcycle.com/how-to/how-to-make-clutchless-upshifts-on-any-motorcycle


Title: Re: Getting through the gears
Post by ohiomoto on 12/19/17 at 06:42:12

No thanks, I'll just slap that clutch lever.  Those few seconds I gain from that stoplight will just get me to the next one a few seconds earlier. ;)

Title: Re: Getting through the gears
Post by Dave on 12/19/17 at 07:07:34

I have ridden bikes that shift smoothly without the clutch - but my Savage is not one of those bikes.  I don't know if it is the large amount of flywheel/crankshaft/counter balancer mass, or the large amount of compression braking the big single has - but the up/down shifts are much smoother with the clutch.

The BMW R1200RT I rented has a "shift assist" that does something to the engine when you move the shift lever - it worked incredibly well...the clutchless shifts were really smooooooth.
https://www.ascycles.com/Shift-Assist-Assistant-Pro-R1200GS-ADV-by-BMW-23418536884

Title: Re: Getting through the gears
Post by jcstokes on 12/19/17 at 08:59:29

Very interesting, sadly some on this forum say our gearbox is a washing machine one, with 40000 miles up soon, I'm not that brave.

Title: Re: Getting through the gears
Post by Serowbot on 12/19/17 at 09:15:27

4th and 5th fall into place,.. 2nd and 3rd... not so much...

Title: Re: Getting through the gears
Post by verslagen1 on 12/19/17 at 13:45:09

At a hefty clip, 1st to 2nd rpm change is about 1500 difference.
So is 2nd to 3rd, but 3rd to 4th is 1000 and 5th is 600.
You almost don't need to blip the throttle.

Title: Re: Getting through the gears
Post by jcstokes on 12/19/17 at 17:33:38

Still can't find sixth.

Title: Re: Getting through the gears
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/19/17 at 18:32:01

It's not so cool first to second, and second to first, no, but IF I'm ripping it, the others are slick.
If I'm not, then the timing is hard and getting it wrong is easy. So the clutch is the answer then.

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