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Message started by justin_o_guy2 on 12/24/17 at 23:04:46

Title: Democrats are gonna get creamed
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/24/17 at 23:04:46

http://www.wnd.com/2017/12/the-big-list-of-tax-cut-payoffs/

It's a long list of companies that are giving bonuses and pay raises.

It's GONNA affect the economy.
And a bunch of the people who are benefiting are democrats.

And exactly ZERO democrats Voted to diminish the tax burden on the People.

When the People start to be able to stay afloat more easily, come next election, the bubs are gonna clean up.

That's IF we don't go to war and the federal reserve doesn't jack interest rates up and screw stuff up.

Title: Re: Democrats are gonna get creamed
Post by raydawg on 12/25/17 at 09:24:04

MERRY CHRISTMAS Jog buddy.....

Its a white one here, about 3 inches and still snowing.

No your premise is all wrong.

The "popular" left will continue to veer to the left, and leave folk like me adrift.
Their argument will basically be more money equals more assistance to others.

The Moore republicans types will drag that party more to the right, leaving many with no one to vote for.

The next president will be mid stream.

2018 will be a mishmash of local politics and popular ideas pushed on a national agenda.... or maybe just all women  ;D

Whoever can bridge the divide will be the person(s) to win.  

Title: Re: Democrats are gonna get creamed
Post by Ed L. on 12/25/17 at 11:30:44

Bonuses for about 350,000 employees out of the current work force in the US of 127 million.
 My math shows that 126.6 million won't see any bonuses. That's only 0.002% of the total work force getting a raise or bonus. (two thousandths of one percent).
 It sounds good till you do the math.

Title: Re: Democrats are gonna get creamed
Post by raydawg on 12/25/17 at 11:54:50


14350E1D7F510 wrote:
Bonuses for about 350,000 employees out of the current work force in the US of 127 million.
 My math shows that 126.6 million won't see any bonuses. That's only 0.002% of the total work force getting a raise or bonus. (two thousandths of one percent).
 It sounds good till you do the math.


Ed, do you propose no one, unless everyone.....?

Honestly Ed, who will cut the pie equally?

Do you believe everyone should be equal, or not at all?

In sports, no winners and losers?

A team if too dominant needs to be broken up under the banner of fairness?

That’s cool, I hate the patriots almost as I do the Yankees  ;D

Title: Re: Democrats are gonna get creamed
Post by Ed L. on 12/25/17 at 12:05:07

I'm just showing you the math behind the spin.
Do what you want with it. I'm just presenting the facts, not debating any of the other stuff you are trying to drag into this.
Bonuses and raises are great for the 0.002% but doesn't affect the other 99.998%.
Merry Christmas

Title: Re: Democrats are gonna get creamed
Post by raydawg on 12/25/17 at 12:25:11


66477C6F0D230 wrote:
I'm just showing you the math behind the spin.
Do what you want with it. I'm just presenting the facts, not debating any of the other stuff you are trying to drag into this.
Bonuses and raises are great for the 0.002% but doesn't affect the other 99.998%.
Merry Christmas


Merry Christmas to you too!

I guess I’m as stupid as I look...... >:(
Please share with me how it’s revelant then.

Could we not add up the total dollars collected by the top one percent, and show how they pay more than others, by using a comparison criteria like you did?
I’m guessing it would be a revealing number as well....???

Happy new year too  ;)

Title: Re: Democrats are gonna get creamed
Post by Ed L. on 12/25/17 at 12:50:36

The relevance is how the bonuses and pay increases have been spun.

Title: Re: Democrats are gonna get creamed
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/25/17 at 13:28:14

When disposable income increases spending increases. Spending in the community affects the local economy. A slight uptick is an uptick. We've been watching slow belt tightening incrementally driving things down. The percentage of people getting bonuses may be small, but if corporations are willing and able to do This, they expect growth. If this turns into a situation where even the one eyed have to admit that things are better, then the democrats get crushed.
Why wouldn't that happen?
War
Interest rates

The establishment can tank this.

Yeah, Ed, the number of people getting bonuses isn't statistically significant on a walk by, but if they were unemployed tomorrow, then it would be. So, if it's enough to matter, I think it's enough to matter.

Title: Re: Democrats are gonna get creamed
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/25/17 at 14:06:00

How much change will be necessary for the bubs to just point out that Every Democrat party representative
Tried to Block the People from Keeping more of their earnings?

Title: Re: Democrats are gonna get creamed
Post by raydawg on 12/25/17 at 14:13:23


0322190A68460 wrote:
The relevance is how the bonuses and pay increases have been spun.


Spin......?

Does spin change reality, or become reality?

Did the bonus Obama paid Iran in cash under the darkness of night spin anything?

Spin is nothing more than trying to massage the truth to make it appear differently.....

Your math is merely spin, as you cypher it to get the results you want.

It is like being told by a mod here there is no name calling, as he calls you a name.....

How does that add up?

Title: Re: Democrats are gonna get creamed
Post by Trippah on 12/25/17 at 14:42:07

Before everyone celebrates too long, another shoe is yet to fall.
How many will loose their health care and vote to restore Obamama care. How many will see incredible increases in their health care insurance bills and see a net loss in disposable income during the year?

And yes, come April, I'll be polling you all on your tax savings to see how many got the 2 grand ;D ;D.

Title: Re: Democrats are gonna get creamed
Post by Ed L. on 12/25/17 at 15:02:59

"Your math is merely spin,"  No it is math, nothing more, nothing less.  The spin is saying it does more than just a drop in the ocean.

Title: Re: Democrats are gonna get creamed
Post by raydawg on 12/25/17 at 16:30:09


7253687B19370 wrote:
"Your math is merely spin,"  No it is math, nothing more, nothing less.  The spin is saying it does more than just a drop in the ocean.


Drop in the ocean of debt?

To some folks, that is real money.

Will it matter, spin or not, nope.....

Folk already have a "belief" and they only search out that which affirms it.
Its the way most folks are wired, they see any opposition as a threat, or challenge, seeing their own duplicity, or hypocrisy, is not what they look for.

It is no different than I use to look for a reason to drink, now, I know that thinking was the pitfall to my thoughts and following actions.

Its easier to blame, than to be the one to change by exampling....

BTW, this rant is NOT directed at you, Ed L. no, just me affirming myself  :-?   ;D



Title: Re: Democrats are gonna get creamed
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/25/17 at 18:47:54

The math IS. Can't argue with that. What the effects on the economy will be and long term effect on the attitudes of the People BECAUSE Of the changes is up for discussion. I've made the case for why I believe the People will be positively impacted.

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