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Title: This guy understands the problem Post by oldNslow on 01/27/18 at 10:01:25 He thinks it still can be fixed without bloodshed. I'm not that optimistic. http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2018/01/how-american-civil-war-happens.html#more |
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Title: Re: This guy understands the problem Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/27/18 at 10:37:11 Like when I said The HAVE to let Hillary slide, Or They expose the president and a buncha others.. And nothing this guy says is wrong.. The points I didn't see That are obvious The lefties are the bullies and the violent ones. If the conservatives were as violent as they claim we are, there would be no more lefties. Keep pushing, @55holes,and America will suffer. Play by your own rules, or be prepared to see every politician experience Resistance. Watching you preening crybullies pretend that Obama experienced anything even remotely like what you support against Trump is disgusting. You Do realize that you're lowering the bar, don't you? Yeah, decorum.. |
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Title: Re: This guy understands the problem Post by raydawg on 01/27/18 at 11:47:23 Jog, oh my, this ferry ride is terrible, extremely rough..... :o Buddy, you understand anger begets anger. Retaliation invite retaliation. Turning the cheek and offering it is the only real action that will reveal the truth. I am sure stuff like this is not new to the political system. What has changed is the technology of revealing it to the masses. |
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Title: Re: This guy understands the problem Post by MnSpring on 01/27/18 at 12:00:45 What a great read. It is truly unfortunate, that some here, do not posses ‘Windex’, and will not read, or understand his POV. What I think are some of the best quotes: “…It’s not a free country when FBI agents who support Hillary take out an “insurance policy” against Trump winning the election. It’s not a free country when Obama officials engage in massive unmasking of the opposition. It’s not a free country when the media responds to the other guy winning by trying to ban the conservative media that supported him from social media. It’s not a free country when all of the above collude together to overturn an election because the guy who wasn’t supposed to win, won….” “… today California has one party elections. There are lots of elections and propositions. There’s all the theater of democracy, but none of the substance. Its political system is as free and open as the Soviet Union…” “… What do sure odds of the Dems rejecting the next Republican president really mean? It means they don’t accept the results of any election that they don’t win …” “ … It means they don’t believe that transfers of power in this country are determined by elections…” And every time, “…That’s a civil war…”, is written. I hear the voice of Paul Harvey. |
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Title: Re: This guy understands the problem Post by Serowbot on 01/27/18 at 12:04:51 "crybullies" ... What next?.... ;D ;D ;D... |
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Title: Re: This guy understands the problem Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/27/18 at 12:36:56 Look it up. It's designed specifically for the lefties. |
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Title: Re: This guy understands the problem Post by Serowbot on 01/27/18 at 15:10:44 That free thinking, mind of your own, keeps up with all the latest name calling trends?... Keep following those fingers... |
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Title: Re: This guy understands the problem Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/27/18 at 16:57:54 Accurate descriptions aren't name calling. |
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Title: Re: This guy understands the problem Post by Trippah on 01/27/18 at 19:48:30 Time yells all, but then I'll be dead so I really do not care. My hypothesis : This is the last harrah for white supremacy, as the non white population bomb here, in Northern Europe, and in Israel, is starting to explode relative to the white population. This means we will have more police state as the wealthy whites try to hold on to all they have but eventually, browns and blacks will outnumber whites (despite THE WALL) just as Jews will become a minority in the "Homeland." Why is it inevitable? Because of the white supremacist policy of keeping blacks and brown poor. The response is as old as humans - if you are poor you will produce more children so they can help you survive. population per capita only shrinks in the middle class who realize they are not rich enough to buy the education and lifestyle they desire for themselves and their young so they reduce the number of children which they will try to outfit for the better life. Or as the Biblical right says, ye shall reap what ye sow. ;D ;D ;D Or as someone on this site likes to remind us, Karma is a pregnant dog. :-X |
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Title: Re: This guy understands the problem Post by raydawg on 01/27/18 at 20:19:30 Let’s stay with your dog anology...... You view things with a extreme bias, as white is no longer a pure race, as with many other races. Great Danes and Daschhound will breed if given the opportunity, as has mankind across all racial and social boundaries. Mutts will rule the world, I think it’s only the elite of any given race, religion, etc, that try to hold back the inevitable. As I have shared I work in a extremely diverse population. To listen to folks of different cultures, races, religion, etc, has been a wonderful gift I have been able to enjoy. I think the biggest revelation is how everyone thought how different they were to everyone else, when in reality we all share the same bias, prejudice, etc, thinking..... in the way we view things that we have very little knowledge of, yet we all have pretty much the same desires.... ARF ;D |
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Title: Re: This guy understands the problem Post by T And T Garage on 01/28/18 at 19:34:43 754B4A46544849270 wrote:
Wow... you seriously believe that??? Pretty scary. And you think the liberals are to blame? If you can't see that the establishment republicans are just as bad (and in some cases worse) - you're sorely mistaken. |
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Title: Re: This guy understands the problem Post by oldNslow on 01/28/18 at 20:33:40 " Wow... you seriously believe that??? Pretty scary. And you think the liberals are to blame? If you can't see that the establishment republicans are just as bad (and in some cases worse) - you're sorely mistaken." I think it's a distinct possibility. As far as blame; there is plenty to go around. And there will be more than just two sides. Who ones enemies and allies are will at times be difficult to figure out with certainty. The first civil war was horrific. Not just the major battles, and events like Sherman's scorched earth march across the deep south, but also the unrelenting savagery of the asymmetrical guerilla warfare in Kansas and Missouri and some of the other border states, that literally pitted communities and sometimes even families against one another. If current events are any indicator, "Bleeding Kansas" may actually be closer to what things will look like than Gettysburg, or Shiloh, or Antietam. Anyway, if the sh*t does hit the fan again, I believe what's likely to come down the pike will make the events of 1861 to 1865 seem to be an exercise in civility in comparison. Wont be seeing much of this between the combatants on opposite sides after a battle: https://youtu.be/8dDpwZegm60 |
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Title: Re: This guy understands the problem Post by Trippah on 01/29/18 at 08:03:39 This fear thing the writer is using is the same one Trump et al used. Really, do you really see this happening? This line of thought makes walls seem necessary, armed to the tooth reasonable. Not buying it. No, the inner cities are not a Democratic plan;but a result of natural desire to be with people "like" themselves and the lack of wealth (and most importantly the chance of making it) keeps them bottled up surrounded by a police force. When a few do make money, they usually move out. |
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Title: Re: This guy understands the problem Post by raydawg on 01/29/18 at 08:25:00 45637861617079110 wrote:
I asked, on another thread, why so many folks who visit the savage message board, never come to TT...... That should be proof most folks do not give this cripe, so much attention. Folks here follow their piped piper and think its gospel, wrapping their own life's around the message they swill. The pipers pocket the money, and play on. Dooms day, Sin, Global Warming, etc....... chicken little. |
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Title: Re: This guy understands the problem Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/29/18 at 09:03:32 , the inner cities are not a Democratic plan;but a result of natural desire to be with people "like" themselves and the lack of wealth (and most importantly the chance of making it) keeps them bottled up surrounded by a police force. When a few do make money, they usually move out. Nobody said it was the result of a conspiracy. It's just the necessary end result OF bad ideas. What HISTORICALLY conservative big city has ghetto problems? Where are they worst? See a pattern? What causes it? That's not perfectly easy , but the most common factor is Democrats run it. |
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Title: Re: This guy understands the problem Post by raydawg on 01/29/18 at 10:20:31 6F7076716C6B5A6A5A62707C37050 wrote:
No one taught them how to fish? |
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Title: Re: This guy understands the problem Post by oldNslow on 01/29/18 at 10:22:06 Quote:
I am at least willing to entertain the possibility. And to consider what my own response to that kind of a catastrophe might be. Think about the beginning of World War One; which wasn't really a "World War" unless you happened to be an Eastern or Western European or a Russian, and believed that those places constituted the entire planet, but which was the war that all the smart people of the time were firmly convinced could never, ever happen. Until. in the summer of 1914, all those smart folks found themselves embroiled in a war that "couldn't happen." "chicken little" the opposite of that is "head in the sand." Take your pick. I don't believe the author of the speech I linked to is really arguing about partisan politics so much as describing what happens when such political animosity spirals out of control. I know that that is what I'm talking about. One of the things that we should learn from history, is that even when ideology gets us into trouble, the trouble always escalates in unexpected ways, and the ideology always gets trampled by the realities of the situation as it unfolds. So, make everything about liberals vs conservatives if you want. Fail to see the forest for the trees. |
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Title: Re: This guy understands the problem Post by T And T Garage on 01/29/18 at 10:24:42 0E30313D2F33325C0 wrote:
I have more faith in the goodness of people than you seem to. Information - read, the truth - will be the undoing of the oligarchy. We the people are still We The People. |
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Title: Re: This guy understands the problem Post by raydawg on 01/29/18 at 11:20:32 I have faith in plain old folks too, deplorable as well. Identity politics only tries to fan embers into flames.... Why not try and extinguish the embers? I agree, many methods can be offered as the best way, but to attack one because his hose is white ain’t it. As I stated in another thread, our marring across all racial, social, religious, economic, etc, lines and boundaries will solves the problem via love..... |
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Title: Re: This guy understands the problem Post by oldNslow on 01/29/18 at 11:21:11 Quote:
Commendable, but perhaps unrealistic. Just one example out of many: The widely accepted number for Soviet deaths in WW2 is about 27 million, with just under 9 million of those being military personnel. That leaves 18 million or so noncombatants whose faith, or lack of same, in the goodness of their fellow man didn't do a lot of good. Like I said, in different words, in the post before this one, responding to Ray and Trippah: we think we're in control of events, but we are really not. |
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Title: Re: This guy understands the problem Post by raydawg on 01/29/18 at 11:24:20 I will give you that.... We see what lemmings do. |
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Title: Re: This guy understands the problem Post by FormerlyLostArtist on 01/29/18 at 12:09:42 JOG your "one side is where all the evil is" philosophy IS THE PROBLEM. you aren't the only one who has it, and it happens on both sides, but you definitely have a bad case of it. all your arguments are not useless, you are a fanatical right wing hack. the only time you attack your own is because they aren't right enough for you. sounds middle-eastern.... hope someday you realize you are thinking like a member of a cult and somehow rejoin society as a normal rational person, but I won't hold my breath |
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Title: Re: This guy understands the problem Post by FormerlyLostArtist on 01/29/18 at 12:11:13 it's telling that conservatives point to other conservatives screaming about upcoming civil wars and taking to arms to "take their country back" and then blame liberals for threatening or even being violent..... |
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Title: Re: This guy understands the problem Post by raydawg on 01/29/18 at 12:29:03 Lost, I don’t think your remark/post is meant to be disingenuous, but to me it seems like after having walked into a Mexican restaurant to eat, you blame it for only having Mexican food on its menu. Take last night at the Grammy Awards, the left faults Tweeter for tweeting, etc, yet given a platform and exposure they take their leftist beliefs and use it for their own BELIEFS.... It takes two to tango. |
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Title: Re: This guy understands the problem Post by FormerlyLostArtist on 01/29/18 at 12:41:35 50435B46435545220 wrote:
did you miss the part where I said it happens on both sides??? " and it happens on both sides," |
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Title: Re: This guy understands the problem Post by T And T Garage on 01/29/18 at 15:19:35 4D73727E6C70711F0 wrote:
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Title: Re: This guy understands the problem Post by oldNslow on 01/29/18 at 16:04:48 Quote:
I disagree. People haven't changed much. And our dependence on our technology and our interconnectedness is a weakness not a strength. Things are much more fragile then most folks imagine IMO. |
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Title: Re: This guy understands the problem Post by raydawg on 01/29/18 at 17:05:26 Yep, nothing new under the sun, we just know it more quickly, hopefully.... The Bible revealed man’s nature, nothing has changed. Psychology and Shakesphere both use the Bible as a foundation to gauge mankind. |
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Title: Re: This guy understands the problem Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/29/18 at 20:12:19 And a few E.M.P.s will make us all equal. |
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