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Message started by raydawg on 02/14/18 at 22:57:02

Title: If this can’t pass........
Post by raydawg on 02/14/18 at 22:57:02

Then I don’t believe anything can.
It looks like a well placed attempt at what has been a problem for a long time.
I hope it’s voted in, and Trump signs it.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/14/politics/senate-starts-immigration-debate/index.html

Title: Re: If this can’t pass........
Post by MnSpring on 02/15/18 at 11:41:58

I read the info, and agree, in the ‘one’ piece, about the DACA.

Yet, ‘Just’, doing that, ‘One’ piece, with Out dealing with,
the, ’no tracking of expired Visas’,
‘Security at the border’, (Which is not, JUST, Mexico),
end the, ‘LOTTO’ Visa program,

One piece looks fairly good.
What about the OTHER, three.
(Which are ALL Interconnected)

Title: Re: If this can’t pass........
Post by raydawg on 02/15/18 at 12:38:48

We need to start somewhere, this mindset of all my way, or nothing is working for ANYONE.

Title: Re: If this can’t pass........
Post by T And T Garage on 02/15/18 at 12:40:47

283B233E3B2D3D5A0 wrote:

We need to start somewhere, this mindset of all my way, or nothing is working for ANYONE.

Wow... one of the smartest things you tried to say in a long time ray. (I think you meant "NO ONE", correct?)

Title: Re: If this can’t pass........
Post by raydawg on 02/15/18 at 12:44:26

Yes, thanks

Title: Re: If this can’t pass........
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/15/18 at 12:44:44

Reagan trusted and got screwed.
He Gave with the Promise of Getting.

Trump is offering what they want,
And Demanding that the border be secured in the same bill.

If that's not good enough, what is?

Tell me he's demanding money for border security, please.
He better not cave on that.

Title: Re: If this can’t pass........
Post by raydawg on 02/15/18 at 13:40:34

It didn’t muster the vote.....

Jog, that was then, re: Reagan.
Technology has advanced possibilities so much beyond the ability of a physical wall, etc.

If you have 100 issues, and can only agree upon one issue to repair, is 99 problems/issues, better than 100?

And consider as well, maybe fixing one, might then reveal a fix, to problem number 98.....

Title: Re: If this can’t pass........
Post by FormerlyLostArtist on 02/15/18 at 14:16:13

716E686F72754474447C6E62291B0 wrote:

yeah, he wants the money, NOW

the way I see it, he wants "eventual" citizenship for the "dreamers"

so eventual citizenship = eventual wall

Title: Re: If this can’t pass........
Post by raydawg on 02/15/18 at 19:21:20

Well gee then.....

Maybe Trump should clear up his no wall, wall.....

Title: Re: If this can’t pass........
Post by FormerlyLostArtist on 02/16/18 at 09:03:28

44574F52574151360 wrote:

remember how conservatives reacted to that approach with the Iran deal?

I know, apples and oranges but kind of the same concept. can't do one thing because of 1000 other things we want too

Title: Re: If this can’t pass........
Post by raydawg on 02/16/18 at 12:57:20

7C5548575F4856437655494E7B484E53494E3A0 wrote:

[quote author=44574F52574151360 link=1518677822/0#6 date=1518730834]It didn’t muster the vote.....

Jog, that was then, re: Reagan.
Technology has advanced possibilities so much beyond the ability of a physical wall, etc.

If you have 100 issues, and can only agree upon one issue to repair, is 99 problems/issues, better than 100?

And consider as well, maybe fixing one, might then reveal a fix, to problem number 98.....

remember how conservatives reacted to that approach with the Iran deal?

I know, apples and oranges but kind of the same concept. can't do one thing because of 1000 other things we want too[/quote]

I have always asserted Obama with "credit" of trying to do SOMETHING DIFFERENT with the M.E.

I believe he humbled himself, when he reached out to those who have a different core belief, regarding life, than what we believe in our constitution......
In other words, he offered an olive branch, they rejected it.

All the other attempts were from a strength, and power base, backed resolution, and that has never sustained anything.

I fault him when he didn't accept the fact that his overtures were rejected, and moved on to some other ideas.
To me, I believe he just "doubled-downed" on his idea, and that stubbornness of character is the same thing I dislike about Trump....

How many folks will have to tell him we do NOT like your tweeting, etc, before he listens?

The money to Iran, same thing, its why it was done so secretly.
We now know, it didn't work, again.

Lets see if we can learn from it, not keep beating a dead horse, however.
I only mention this because you brought it up.