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Message started by T And T Garage on 02/16/18 at 11:45:07

Title: Nothing To See Here....
Post by T And T Garage on 02/16/18 at 11:45:07

Except...
http://www.yahoo.com/news/13-russian-nationals-charged-mueller-investigation-180554016--politics.html

Thirteen Russians and three Russian companies were charged Friday with an elaborate plot to interfere in the 2016 U.S. presidential election through social media propaganda aimed at helping Republican Donald Trump and harming the prospects of his Democratic opponent, Hillary Clinton, prosecutors announced Friday.

Title: Re: Nothing To See Here....
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/16/18 at 11:49:03

Bullshit.
I've been following this.
Since
Never
Is your start point, and reasonably so, because you get owned every time, I won't bother pointing out where you are wrong.

Title: Re: Nothing To See Here....
Post by Serowbot on 02/16/18 at 12:42:18


4D5254534E4978487840525E15270 wrote:
I won't bother pointing out where you are wrong.


Good idea,... because he isn't stating an opinion,.. he's pointing out a fact...

Title: Re: Nothing To See Here....
Post by T And T Garage on 02/16/18 at 13:04:35


4A5C4B564E5B564D390 wrote:
[quote author=4D5254534E4978487840525E15270 link=1518810307/0#1 date=1518810543]I won't bother pointing out where you are wrong.


Good idea,... because he isn't stating an opinion,.. he's pointing out a fact...[/quote]


I'm glad someone can see that.

Thanks Bot.

Title: Re: Nothing To See Here....
Post by WebsterMark on 02/16/18 at 13:13:54

"There is no allegation in the indictment that the charged conduct altered the outcome of the 2016 election.”
- Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein


Title: Re: Nothing To See Here....
Post by raydawg on 02/16/18 at 13:14:04

What I find funny is this:

A dramatic new indictment from special counsel Robert Mueller charges that 13 Russian nationals and three Russian entities assisted the Kremlin’s efforts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election, in an "information warfare" scheme that began as early as 2014 and involved "unwitting" U.S. citizens and Trump campaign officials.

The indictment reveals even bolder Russian interference than previously known, describing a political misinformation effort — led by the St. Petersburg-based Internet Research Agency, a suspected unofficial Kremlin arm which manipulates online political opinion — that went well beyond the use of "fake news" and social media misdirection.


Like on another post I made, about how the media uses words like "gun" or "Muslims", to evoke folks emotions, then capitalize, upon them....

I'm glad here, that Poltico called out Russia's, as the culprit......

For I might very well think our own free speech media, is deploying these very SAME TACTICS, on us, for THEIR OWN personal gain  ;D

Time to move on folks.

The Taliban got us.
ISIS got us.
Russia got us.....

Lets not let a divisive media industry get us too!

Title: Re: Nothing To See Here....
Post by FormerlyLostArtist on 02/16/18 at 13:21:25


063433222534231C30233A510 wrote:
"There is no allegation in the indictment that the charged conduct altered the outcome of the 2016 election.”
- Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein


there's absolutely no way to tell

yes the actual voting machine might not have been successfully tampered with, but people's brains and opinions were.

this was a  Russian propaganda mission, and it worked, by there own stated goals, they succeeded.  

and Trump has done NOTHING, not even enact sanctions passed by an overwhelming majority in congress, to counteract this Russian interference.


Title: Re: Nothing To See Here....
Post by T And T Garage on 02/16/18 at 13:22:48


714344555243546B47544D260 wrote:
"There is no allegation in the indictment that the charged conduct altered the outcome of the 2016 election.”
- Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein


Yeah, they did it for fun!!  Right?....  Medling is OK... right?

Please.... get an ounce of a clue, huh?

Title: Re: Nothing To See Here....
Post by FormerlyLostArtist on 02/16/18 at 13:23:44


697670776A6D5C6C5C64767A31030 wrote:
Bullshit.
I've been following this.
Since
Never
Is your start point, and reasonably so, because you get owned every time, I won't bother pointing out where you are wrong.



there you go again...  

so desperate to defend Trump

Title: Re: Nothing To See Here....
Post by T And T Garage on 02/16/18 at 13:24:31


7A69716C697F6F080 wrote:
What I find funny is this:

A dramatic new indictment from special counsel Robert Mueller charges that 13 Russian nationals and three Russian entities assisted the Kremlin’s efforts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election, in an "information warfare" scheme that began as early as 2014 and involved "unwitting" U.S. citizens and Trump campaign officials.

The indictment reveals even bolder Russian interference than previously known, describing a political misinformation effort — led by the St. Petersburg-based Internet Research Agency, a suspected unofficial Kremlin arm which manipulates online political opinion — that went well beyond the use of "fake news" and social media misdirection.


Like on another post I made, about how the media uses words like "gun" or "Muslims", to evoke folks emotions, then capitalize, upon them....

I'm glad here, that Poltico called out Russia's, as the culprit......

For I might very well think our own free speech media, is deploying these very SAME TACTICS, on us, for THEIR OWN personal gain  ;D

Time to move on folks.

The Taliban got us.
ISIS got us.
Russia got us.....

Lets not let a divisive media industry get us too!


Yeah, just let this one go....
SMH

You honestly think that our president and/or his campaign had nothing to do with it???

Please....

Title: Re: Nothing To See Here....
Post by WebsterMark on 02/16/18 at 13:29:12

In reading through the indictment, it states at one time or another, they worked both for and against Trump, Hilary and Sanders. After the nomination, they mostly worked on behalf of Trump with an occasional effort towards Hilary and it shows one for Jill Stein.

Title: Re: Nothing To See Here....
Post by raydawg on 02/16/18 at 13:32:03


233D32333E233825570 wrote:
[quote author=7A69716C697F6F080 link=1518810307/0#5 date=1518815644]What I find funny is this:

A dramatic new indictment from special counsel Robert Mueller charges that 13 Russian nationals and three Russian entities assisted the Kremlin’s efforts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election, in an "information warfare" scheme that began as early as 2014 and involved "unwitting" U.S. citizens and Trump campaign officials.

The indictment reveals even bolder Russian interference than previously known, describing a political misinformation effort — led by the St. Petersburg-based Internet Research Agency, a suspected unofficial Kremlin arm which manipulates online political opinion — that went well beyond the use of "fake news" and social media misdirection.


Like on another post I made, about how the media uses words like "gun" or "Muslims", to evoke folks emotions, then capitalize, upon them....

I'm glad here, that Poltico called out Russia's, as the culprit......

For I might very well think our own free speech media, is deploying these very SAME TACTICS, on us, for THEIR OWN personal gain  ;D

Time to move on folks.

The Taliban got us.
ISIS got us.
Russia got us.....

Lets not let a divisive media industry get us too!


Yeah, just let this one go....
SMH

You honestly think that our president and/or his campaign had nothing to do with it???

Please....
[/quote]

Not after Obama told the Russians to KNOCK IT OFF
And that was before Trump.....oh, never mind, I thought for a second you really wanted dialogue  ;D

I'll just go back to: Parkay.
NO, butter.
Parkay  :-*

Have fun with this, I have a inkling if I don't FIX THE WORLD, it will be just fine without me.

edit: Mueller was/is a republican, right......nuff said, huh.  ::)

Title: Re: Nothing To See Here....
Post by T And T Garage on 02/16/18 at 13:38:08


786B736E6B7D6D0A0 wrote:
Not after Obama told the Russians to KNOCK IT OFF
And that was before Trump.....oh, never mind, I thought for a second you really wanted dialogue  ;D

I just want an honest, straightforward answer from you for once.  Do you think that our president and/or his campaign was actively involved with the russians to influence the vote?  It's a simple question. (if you wonder about my position, I'll be glad to restate it)

I'll just go back to: Parkay.
NO, butter.
Parkay  :-*

Have fun with this, I have a inkling if I don't FIX THE WORLD, it will be just fine without me.

If you don't at least try, you will only get one result - failure.

Title: Re: Nothing To See Here....
Post by FormerlyLostArtist on 02/16/18 at 13:40:17

Trump says:  


"(I)t is more important than ever before to come together as Americans," Trump said in the statement. "We cannot allow those seeking to sow confusion, discord, and rancor to be successful. It's time we stop the outlandish partisan attacks, wild and false allegations, and far-fetched theories, which only serve to further the agendas of bad actors, like Russia, and do nothing to protect the principles of our institutions. We must unite as Americans to protect the integrity of our democracy and our elections."


like ignoring the sanctions a UNITED CONGRESS passed?   like that person who would be sewing confusion, discord and rancor?  or the guy that has constantly attacked the Russian investigation because he has no confidence in himself?   Like those outlandish partisan attacks, since they did come from the Republican party conservatives wanting to use Trump as a rubber stamp and didn't care how get got there, a win is a win, just ask Kelly Anne Conway.  

the same guy who attacks the FBI constantly as being on a witch-hunt and besmirches their integrity. you mean that institution?

And what exactly has Trump done to protect the integrity of our democracy and our elections?  as far as I know, no reforms for the election process have come down from Trump or even been supported by Trump or the Conservatives..

what a blatant statement of textbook hypocrisy.  

Title: Re: Nothing To See Here....
Post by T And T Garage on 02/16/18 at 13:41:56


1F362B343C2B352015362A2D182B2D302A2D590 wrote:
Trump says:  


"(I)t is more important than ever before to come together as Americans," Trump said in the statement. "We cannot allow those seeking to sow confusion, discord, and rancor to be successful. It's time we stop the outlandish partisan attacks, wild and false allegations, and far-fetched theories, which only serve to further the agendas of bad actors, like Russia, and do nothing to protect the principles of our institutions. We must unite as Americans to protect the integrity of our democracy and our elections."


like ignoring the sanctions a UNITED CONGRESS passed?   like that person who would be sewing confusion, discord and rancor?  or the guy that has constantly attacked the Russian investigation because he has no confidence in himself?   Like those outlandish partisan attacks, since they did come from the Republican party conservatives wanting to use Trump as a rubber stamp and didn't care how get got there, a win is a win, just ask Kelly Anne Conway.  

the same guy who attacks the FBI constantly as being on a witch-hunt and besmirches their integrity. you mean that institution?

And what exactly has Trump done to protect the integrity of our democracy and our elections?  as far as I know, no reforms for the election process have come down from Trump or even been supported by Trump or the Conservatives..

He had a commission to study voter fraud...ppfffftttt...  ;D sorry, too funny to finish that sentence!

what a blatant statement of textbook hypocrisy.  



Amen!  (sadly)

Title: Re: Nothing To See Here....
Post by WebsterMark on 02/16/18 at 13:42:03

On one day, Nov. 12, 2016, the defendants organized a rally in New York to "show your support for President-elect Donald Trump" while at the same time organizing a "Trump is NOT my president rally" that also was held in New York.

Why? This is either the move of serious 3-D chess players who figured out crazy clever methods to achieve their goals......or morons who spent a fortune to accomplish nothing.

Title: Re: Nothing To See Here....
Post by FormerlyLostArtist on 02/16/18 at 13:46:13


152720313627300F233029420 wrote:
On one day, Nov. 12, 2016, the defendants organized a rally in New York to "show your support for President-elect Donald Trump" while at the same time organizing a "Trump is NOT my president rally" that also was held in New York.

Why? This is either the move of serious 3-D chess players who figured out crazy clever methods to achieve their goals......or morons who spent a fortune to accomplish nothing.



well, they've clearly accomplished their goals, so 3D chess it is, also that was AFTER THE FACT, aka, after the election on Nov. 8th. Once they got their man in place, they wanted to continue to stir the pot

Title: Re: Nothing To See Here....
Post by WebsterMark on 02/16/18 at 13:52:32

"They" did not get their man in place, we did.

Regardless, I'm heading for home finally.

Title: Re: Nothing To See Here....
Post by FormerlyLostArtist on 02/16/18 at 13:53:09


1B292E3F38293E012D3E274C0 wrote:
"They" did not get their man in place, we did.

Regardless, I'm heading for home finally.



You're Russian?

Title: Re: Nothing To See Here....
Post by T And T Garage on 02/16/18 at 13:53:50


417374656273645B77647D160 wrote:
On one day, Nov. 12, 2016, the defendants organized a rally in New York to "show your support for President-elect Donald Trump" while at the same time organizing a "Trump is NOT my president rally" that also was held in New York.

Why? This is either the move of serious 3-D chess players who figured out crazy clever methods to achieve their goals......or morons who spent a fortune to accomplish nothing.


Defendant ORGANIZATION had a strategic goal to sow discord in the U.S. political system, including the 2016 U.S. presidential election. Defendants posted derogatory information about a number of candidates, and by early to mid-2016, Defendants’ operations included supporting the presidential campaign of then-candidate Donald J. Trump (“Trump Campaign”) and disparaging Hillary Clinton.


That was their goal.

Title: Re: Nothing To See Here....
Post by T And T Garage on 02/16/18 at 13:54:24


6A435E41495E405560435F586D5E58455F582C0 wrote:
[quote author=1B292E3F38293E012D3E274C0 link=1518810307/15#17 date=1518817952]"They" did not get their man in place, we did.

LOL - what's the difference????

Regardless, I'm heading for home finally.



You're Russian? [/quote]

Title: Re: Nothing To See Here....
Post by raydawg on 02/16/18 at 14:17:02

If you don't at least try, you will only get one result - failure.

Said the fox to the gingerbread man.....
You know you will only drown, if you try and cross that stream.
Here, I will help you, just crawl up on my back, and I will swim you across.....

Or.

I know the truth, everyone else, wrong.
You need to try and believe me, or fail, that will be your result.
Lies will rule our elections (imagine that).
If you do not follow my beliefs.
More children will die at school.
People will die for lack of healthcare.....
Is this what you (me) want?

Dude, it makes no diff......
Global Warming is gonna kill us all, anyway.
I'll dance in my speedos.
I'll fish from my boat.
I'll live life, while I'm living.....
You can keep all your gloat  :-*

Adios Amigos  ;D

Title: Re: Nothing To See Here....
Post by T And T Garage on 02/16/18 at 14:25:05


4D5E465B5E48583F0 wrote:
If you don't at least try, you will only get one result - failure.

Said the fox to the gingerbread man.....
You know you will only drown, if you try and cross that stream.
Here, I will help you, just crawl up on my back, and I will swim you across.....

LOL - not at all the same analogy, but whatever...

Or.

I know the truth, everyone else, wrong.
You need to try and believe me, or fail, that will be your result.
Lies will rule our elections (imagine that).
If you do not follow my beliefs.
More children will die at school.
People will die for lack of healthcare.....
Is this what you (me) want?

Nope.  I want REAL ACCOUNTABILITY by the politicians in this country. Oh, and maybe an answer from you about my question.

Dude, it makes no diff......
Global Warming is gonna kill us all, anyway.
I'll dance in my speedos.
I'll fish from my boat.
I'll live life, while I'm living.....
You can keep all your gloat  :-*

Adios Amigos  ;D

Apathy kills ray - keep up the "great" work!

Title: Re: Nothing To See Here....
Post by raydawg on 02/16/18 at 14:35:38


233D32333E233825570 wrote:
[quote author=4D5E465B5E48583F0 link=1518810307/15#21 date=1518819422]If you don't at least try, you will only get one result - failure.

Said the fox to the gingerbread man.....
You know you will only drown, if you try and cross that stream.
Here, I will help you, just crawl up on my back, and I will swim you across.....

LOL - not at all the same analogy, but whatever...

Or.

I know the truth, everyone else, wrong.
You need to try and believe me, or fail, that will be your result.
Lies will rule our elections (imagine that).
If you do not follow my beliefs.
More children will die at school.
People will die for lack of healthcare.....
Is this what you (me) want?

Nope.  I want REAL ACCOUNTABILITY by the politicians in this country. Oh, and maybe an answer from you about my question.

Dude, it makes no diff......
Global Warming is gonna kill us all, anyway.
I'll dance in my speedos.
I'll fish from my boat.
I'll live life, while I'm living.....
You can keep all your gloat  :-*

Adios Amigos  ;D

Apathy kills ray - keep up the "great" work!
[/quote]

The little gingerbread man climbed up to the fox's snout, as the water was getting him wet upon it's back.....

No, hate kills, apathy plays no part in killing others, in real life doctrine.
A car.
A bomb.
A gun.
Words.
None can kill unless deployed with an intent, to kill.....

I still love you sweetie  :-*

Title: Re: Nothing To See Here....
Post by T And T Garage on 02/16/18 at 17:03:56


21322A37322434530 wrote:
Apathy kills ray - keep up the "great" work!


The little gingerbread man climbed up to the fox's snout, as the water was getting him wet upon it's back.....

No, hate kills, apathy plays no part in killing others, in real life doctrine.

No ray, apathy kills - you sit idly by and demand nothing of your politicians, because you have no stand either way.  No different than not pushing someone out of the way of an oncoming car they don't see.  You LET them die.  Apathy.

A car.
A bomb.
A gun.
Words.
None can kill unless deployed with an intent, to kill.....

See above.

I still love you sweetie  :-*
[/quote]
STFU with that crap.  It's not even a little cute.  It shows you're gutless and have no answer.

But I'll give you one more chance ray - are you brave enough to answer?

Do you think that our president and/or his campaign was actively involved with the russians to influence the vote? 

Title: Re: Nothing To See Here....
Post by raydawg on 02/16/18 at 17:29:52

You don't know me....... you lie!

Title: Re: Nothing To See Here....
Post by raydawg on 02/16/18 at 17:30:11

Oh.......  :-*

Title: Re: Nothing To See Here....
Post by raydawg on 02/16/18 at 18:15:10

Of course I do, the dossier played a big part, 10 million dollars worth

Title: Re: Nothing To See Here....
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/16/18 at 18:17:29

STFU with that crap.  It's not even a little cute.  It shows you're gutless and have no answer.



That's SO funny!

Title: Re: Nothing To See Here....
Post by raydawg on 02/16/18 at 19:11:56


5A454344595E6F5F6F57454902300 wrote:
STFU with that crap.  It's not even a little cute.  It shows you're gutless and have no answer.



That's SO funny!


It’s getting too easy.
I wish Trump would just stop his tweeting and taunting now...
But he won’t.....
You know why, TT already touched on it, yet what he revealed escapes him.
That idiots elected a stupid reality TV personality.
Trump is them, Hollywood, fake breast and feign caring.
Celebrities preaching from their bubble, outta their arse.

Yeah, Tweeter beat them at their own game, and all of a sudden they care about virtue.
The guy can afford pricey chicks, dang, he must have learnt that from
NBA players  ;D

TT, you are a stooge, and the two other wise men here, make Three Stooges  ;D :-*

Ready now, andddddddd ACTION!

Title: Re: Nothing To See Here....
Post by FormerlyLostArtist on 02/17/18 at 00:05:30


22312934312737500 wrote:
[quote author=5A454344595E6F5F6F57454902300 link=1518810307/15#28 date=1518833849]STFU with that crap.  It's not even a little cute.  It shows you're gutless and have no answer.



That's SO funny!


It’s getting too easy.
I wish Trump would just stop his tweeting and taunting now...
But he won’t.....
You know why, TT already touched on it, yet what he revealed escapes him.
That idiots elected a stupid reality TV personality.
Trump is them, Hollywood, fake breast and feign caring.
Celebrities preaching from their bubble, outta their arse.

Yeah, Tweeter beat them at their own game, and all of a sudden they care about virtue.
The guy can afford pricey chicks, dang, he must have learnt that from
NBA players  ;D

TT, you are a stooge, and the two other wise men here, make Three Stooges  ;D :-*

Ready now, andddddddd ACTION![/quote]


3 stooges, Ray, JOG and MNSpring,   half the time it's hard to understand what any of them are saying

Title: Re: Nothing To See Here....
Post by T And T Garage on 02/17/18 at 07:15:01


5D4E564B4E58482F0 wrote:
You don't know me....... you lie!



Well, I do - you're gutless and have no answer.

See how easy that is?

Title: Re: Nothing To See Here....
Post by T And T Garage on 02/17/18 at 07:22:07


31223A27223424430 wrote:
[quote author=5A454344595E6F5F6F57454902300 link=1518810307/15#28 date=1518833849]STFU with that crap.  It's not even a little cute.  It shows you're gutless and have no answer.



That's SO funny!


It’s getting too easy.
I wish Trump would just stop his tweeting and taunting now...
But he won’t.....
You know why, TT already touched on it, yet what he revealed escapes him.
That idiots elected a stupid reality TV personality.
Trump is them, Hollywood, fake breast and feign caring.
Celebrities preaching from their bubble, outta their arse.

Yeah, Tweeter beat them at their own game, and all of a sudden they care about virtue.
The guy can afford pricey chicks, dang, he must have learnt that from
NBA players  ;D

TT, you are a stooge, and the two other wise men here, make Three Stooges  ;D :-*

Ready now, andddddddd ACTION![/quote]

So genius, you still haven't answered the question directly... no surprise.

All you have is fence-walking.  You don't take a stand on anything.  You call yourself a democrat, but you support nothing of the democratic agenda.  You try and pontificate about the issues, but add no substance.  You ask asinine questions and never offer your own answers.  You use phrases like "I love you sweetie" to avoid any real conflict.

You're worse than a stooge.  You're the textbook definition of a troll.  You only seek to tear down - period.

Look in the mirror ray.  It's guys like you that allow people like our president into power.  By the likes of you not voting, you become just as responsible for that embarrassment in the oval office as those idiots who voted for him.

Thanks for nothing.

Title: Re: Nothing To See Here....
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/17/18 at 07:25:07

You call yourself a democrat, but you support nothing of the democratic agenda.


He finally saw that agenda for what it is..
When they start pushing for decent things, well, you'll figure it out

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