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Title: keep on hating.... Post by FormerlyLostArtist on 02/20/18 at 08:14:35 why don't we just round up all the lefties and put them in concentration camps...   or anyone who YOU judge to be anti-American... why not?    afterall, all you conservatives are just SO right about EVERYTHING. how dare we actually want to explore the nuances in the REALITY around us. nope, YOUR WAY OR THE HIGH WAY.

Title: Re: keep on hating.... Post by raydawg on 02/20/18 at 08:46:34 That is your perception. Go to Hollywood, etc, announce you are a conservative, or to Berkeley, or to any street demonstration like a Gay Pride Parade, you will see Hate. I had to take my family home early from the San Diego Zoo once, years ago, when a Gay Celebration was having a party later in the evening. They vulgar talk they threw at people who even dared to look at them as they tried to “shock” people by their overt antics was appalling

Title: Re: keep on hating.... Post by FormerlyLostArtist on 02/20/18 at 09:02:02 I'd just like to debate a topic without being called evil or destroying America, etc...   let's drop the hyperbole and actually discuss things rationally Ray, you've actually been doing a good job, I understand that yes, some places are the opposite, but here...  what, there are like 3-4 liberals who aren't exactly over active vs 3-4 conservatives who just can't shut up about how evil we all are.

Title: Re: keep on hating.... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/20/18 at 09:04:05 Pick a topic Lay out your position

Title: Re: keep on hating.... Post by T And T Garage on 02/20/18 at 09:14:01 It's funny - I see people on here posting about "critical thinking" and see very little of it.  In fact, more often than not, I see the very opposite of it. Someone on here will pontificate about how "we need to see things equally" (or something like that) and then, three or four days later calls out "libs" like they are single-handedly responsible for every bad thing ever done on the Planet! But let's be real here Lost.  There are what, 8 people commenting on this forum?  The conservative mindset on here is represented by retirement age (or older) or extremist conservatives.  I interact with a lot of people on a daily basis and I can comfortably say that this little forum is not a representation of the US public in general. What gets me is that the extremists on here seem to think the exact opposite.  They pay no attention to things like the Women's March, the peaceful activism, the narrowness of our president's win, the conduct of our president, the conflicts of interest he has, the nepotism he shows, his relentless tweeting and the overall approval of our him.  All these things were paramount by the conservatives during Obama's tenure.  Now, "it doesn't matter". So, I take the comments on here (from the conservatives) with a grain of salt.  In the big scheme of things, the only influence they have on me is that of entertainment (distraction from my day) and utter bewilderment. :)

Title: Re: keep on hating.... Post by T And T Garage on 02/20/18 at 09:15:51 485B435E5B4D5D3A0 wrote: That is your perception. Go to Hollywood, etc, announce you are a conservative, or to Berkeley, or to any street demonstration like a Gay Pride Parade, you will see Hate. Really?  Have you done that ray?  Any idea what the word "bigot" means? I had to take my family home early from the San Diego Zoo once, years ago, when a Gay Celebration was having a party later in the evening. They vulgar talk they threw at people who even dared to look at them as they tried to “shock” people by their overt antics was appalling ::) Right....

Title: Re: keep on hating.... Post by raydawg on 02/20/18 at 09:28:11 173E233C34233D281D3E2225102325382225510 wrote: I'd just like to debate a topic without being called evil or destroying America, etc...   let's drop the hyperbole and actually discuss things rationally Ray, you've actually been doing a good job, I understand that yes, some places are the opposite, but here...  what, there are like 3-4 liberals who aren't exactly over active vs 3-4 conservatives who just can't shut up about how evil we all are.   Lost, if we can all remember one thing, not only will it hopefully help us to enjoy this site more, but in life too. I believe it’s very important that we acknowledge our own beliefs as unique unto ourselves, bias, prejudices, preconceived.... We feel strongly towards those, or we won’t embrace them. We need to extend that same privilege and consideration, to others. If we don’t conflict will be the result. Opportunity to learn, lost....a lose, lose.

Title: Re: keep on hating.... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/20/18 at 09:33:40 524C43424F524954260 wrote: It's funny - I see people on here posting about "critical thinking" and see very little of it.  In fact, more often than not, I see the very opposite of it. Really? What is looking at the bullshit we were Told that got us into Libya, destroyed the place, made refugees of them, and it was a humanitarian mission. Where are you on that? Someone on here will pontificate about how "we need to see things equally" (or something like that) and then, three or four days later calls out "libs" like they are single-handedly responsible for every bad thing ever done on the Planet! We need to What? Bull.. But let's be real here Lost.  There are what, 8 people commenting on this forum?  The conservative mindset on here is represented by retirement age (or older) or extremist conservatives.  I interact with a lot of people on a daily basis and I can comfortably say that this little forum is not a representation of the US public in general. There's a reason why elders are valued. Years of observation yield wisdom. Pretend I'm not educated and realistic all you want. What gets me is that the extremists on here seem to think the exact opposite.  They pay no attention to things like the Women's March, the peaceful activism, the narrowness of our president's win, the conduct of our president, the conflicts of interest he has, the nepotism he shows, his relentless tweeting and the overall approval of our him.  All these things were paramount by the conservatives during Obama's tenure.  Now, "it doesn't matter". You're focused so narrowly on personality that you're unable to see what he is doing For America. He's accomplished more for us in a year than the combined results of bushes and Clinton and Obama. He's repairing damage done by them. So, I take the comments on here (from the conservatives) with a grain of salt. I think you ignore everything that's relevant and retort when you think you can get a shot in.  In the big scheme of things, the only influence they have on me is that of entertainment (distraction from my day) and utter bewilderment. Reality causes bewilderment to the uninitiated. Keep reading, you might get woke. :)

Title: Re: keep on hating.... Post by T And T Garage on 02/20/18 at 09:35:00 6A79617C796F7F180 wrote: [quote author=173E233C34233D281D3E2225102325382225510 link=1519143275/0#2 date=1519146122]I'd just like to debate a topic without being called evil or destroying America, etc...   let's drop the hyperbole and actually discuss things rationally Ray, you've actually been doing a good job, I understand that yes, some places are the opposite, but here...  what, there are like 3-4 liberals who aren't exactly over active vs 3-4 conservatives who just can't shut up about how evil we all are.   Lost, if we can all remember one thing, not only will it hopefully help us to enjoy this site more, but in life too. I believe it’s very important that we acknowledge our own beliefs as unique unto ourselves, bias, prejudices, preconceived.... We feel strongly towards those, or we won’t embrace them. We need to extend that same privilege and consideration, to others. If we don’t conflict will be the result. Opportunity to learn, lost....a lose, lose. [/quote] ray - You're one of the people I'm talking about!  How do you not see that??? Your statement above is a perfect example!  It seems poignant, fair and unbiased...OK...  But in a day or so you'll go and post some bull$hit about nancy peolsi and how "every lib" is to blame for the atrocities of world....  I've seen it more than once. It's getting laughable - to the point where I wonder if the post above isn't you being sarcastic...  That's how bad it is.

Title: Re: keep on hating.... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/20/18 at 09:41:22 After decades of lefty agenda eroding societal mores, who do you attribute the current state of affairs to?

Title: Re: keep on hating.... Post by FormerlyLostArtist on 02/20/18 at 10:52:17 3E2127203D3A0B3B0B33212D66540 wrote: After decades of lefty agenda eroding societal mores, who do you attribute the current state of affairs to? and THERE IT IS!!!!!!   proving my point again! must be nice living in such a simple simple world that all you have to do is pick the right side and that fixes everything!

Title: Re: keep on hating.... Post by MShipley on 02/20/18 at 11:28:17 19302D323A2D332613302C2B1E2D2B362C2B5F0 wrote: I'd just like to debate a topic without being called evil or destroying America, etc...   let's drop the hyperbole and actually discuss things rationally LOl, won't happen here....... however it is not just one side that is quilty. Actually this forum is an example of what is wrong in America.

Title: Re: keep on hating.... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/20/18 at 12:13:09 It wasn't the bubs who took spanking out of school. It wasn't the bubs who decided God couldn't exist in school. It wasn't the bubs who wanted abortion. And the list goes on and on and on. Societal mores have been washed away. It's not my fault. Who supported it?

Title: Re: keep on hating.... Post by T And T Garage on 02/20/18 at 12:14:36 7B655E5F465A534F360 wrote: [quote author=19302D323A2D332613302C2B1E2D2B362C2B5F0 link=1519143275/0#2 date=1519146122]I'd just like to debate a topic without being called evil or destroying America, etc...   let's drop the hyperbole and actually discuss things rationally LOl, won't happen here....... however it is not just one side that is quilty. Actually this forum is an example of what is wrong in America.[/quote] I love being quilty!  It's so snuggly...  :) (sorry, I couldn't resist)

Title: Re: keep on hating.... Post by FormerlyLostArtist on 02/20/18 at 14:10:55 46595F5845427343734B59551E2C0 wrote: It wasn't the bubs who took spanking out of school. how do you know?  disciplinarians come in all flavors, not just conservatives. I think there were probably just as many conservatives saying, "hey, the school/aka the government, has NO RIGHT punishing MY CHILD in a way I as the parent disagree with." It wasn't the bubs who decided God couldn't exist in school. you're confusing christians and bubs again...   they aren't the same...  and that's a vital upholding of the constitution, which you say you cherish, but I guess only the parts you like then huh?   It wasn't the bubs who wanted abortion. idk, there are probably a lot of doctors using the free market and supply and demand to justify their abortion practices....  and tell that to all the bubs who have gotten a mistress pregnant and urged them to do what...  ?  oh yeah And the list goes on and on and on. it does, shall we continue? Societal mores have been washed away. and hatred from you and your ilk has replaced them. It's not my fault. Who supported it?

Title: Re: keep on hating.... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/20/18 at 14:46:47 You mistake disdain for hatred

Title: Re: keep on hating.... Post by FormerlyLostArtist on 02/20/18 at 15:50:07 706F696E73744575457D6F63281A0 wrote: You mistake disdain for hatred yeah disdain is worse: dis·dain dis[ch712]d[ch257]n/Submit noun 1. the feeling that someone or something is unworthy of one's consideration or respect; contempt. "her upper lip curled in disdain" synonyms:      contempt, scorn, scornfulness, contemptuousness, derision, disrespect; disparagement, condescension, superciliousness, hauteur, haughtiness, arrogance, snobbishness, indifference, distaste, dislike, disgust "she looked at him with disdain" verb 1. consider to be unworthy of one's consideration. "gamblers disdain four-horse races" synonyms:      scorn, deride, pour scorn on, regard with contempt, sneer at, sniff at, curl one's lip at, look down one's nose at, look down on; despise; informalturn up one's nose at, pooh-pooh "she disdained vulgar exhibitionism" hate h[ch257]t/Submit verb 1. feel intense or passionate dislike for (someone). "the boys hate each other" synonyms:      loathe, detest, despise, dislike, abhor, execrate; More noun 1. intense or passionate dislike. "feelings of hate and revenge" synonyms:      hatred, loathing, detestation, dislike, distaste, abhorrence, abomination, execration, aversion; hostility, enmity, animosity, antipathy, revulsion, disgust, contempt, odium "feelings of hate" hate's just an intense dislike, disdain is contempt and consider unworthy I can not like something but still consider it worthy to exist

Title: Re: keep on hating.... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/20/18 at 16:34:42 I can dislike something and not wish it would disappear. A mistake that affects our entire society? Not so much. Mistakes need to be resolved. I'm seeing things that I don't think can be undone. I have no idea how we can get our schools back. Dumping the Department of Education and handing schools over to communities? State? That train wreck took both parties to create.

Title: Re: keep on hating.... Post by Trippah on 02/20/18 at 19:53:59 The overt racism in many school districts  and the more subtle racism in Boston, for example, are why the Department of Education exists.   Do you really want to go back to the good old days?  The black kids who went to school in the 'burbs of Fort Bragg used to get shot at by the cotton farmers on their way to and form school.  Entertainment. :D It, the racism, is still alive and well under the cloak  of school choice. Just wait and see how many elementary school age black kids get into the prestige whitey schools in each major city and their suburbs..it will be even less than do now (which isn't many).   I watched the second grade musical in our local school and of the 101 children, 1 was black so I'd say the present system is working just fine (if you are racist). Now, if every child in a State was given an equal voucher and could choose the school they want, and be provided transportation, then I would accept school  choice (but the student and his parents, not the school gets to choose who goes where). ;)

Title: Re: keep on hating.... Post by Trippah on 02/20/18 at 19:58:41 And little bitty Muslims get to go to little bitty Christian schools without having to convert or pray to a God they do not believe in etc etc etc. And little bitty protestant children get to go to Synagogue Schools and Little bitty Catholics get to go to Temple school without being x-communicated cause they didn't study catechism during school yada yada yada. :)

Title: Re: keep on hating.... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/20/18 at 20:08:09 Pretend that is what I'm about. That's not got any negative effects on Respect for life.

Title: Re: keep on hating.... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/20/18 at 20:16:22 And let's not pretend that Every place on earth is inhabited by people who WANT to assimilate. In case you people have missed it, Europe is being destroyed. Let's import that. Or do you not see the difference between people who immigrated because they wanted to move to America and refugees whose COUNTRY WE DESTROYED?

Title: Re: keep on hating.... Post by FormerlyLostArtist on 02/21/18 at 09:16:26 47585E5944437242724A58541F2D0 wrote: And let's not pretend that Every place on earth is inhabited by people who WANT to assimilate. In case you people have missed it, Europe is being destroyed. Let's import that. Or do you not see the difference between people who immigrated because they wanted to move to America and refugees whose COUNTRY WE DESTROYED? despite what you hear on your self-reflecting-selecting media you consume, I can assure you that Europe is NOT being destroyed.

Title: Re: keep on hating.... Post by T And T Garage on 02/21/18 at 09:26:00 5C7568777F6876635675696E5B686E73696E1A0 wrote: [quote author=706F696E73744575457D6F63281A0 link=1519143275/15#15 date=1519166807]You mistake disdain for hatred yeah disdain is worse: dis·dain dis[ch712]d[ch257]n/Submit noun 1. the feeling that someone or something is unworthy of one's consideration or respect; contempt. "her upper lip curled in disdain" synonyms:      contempt, scorn, scornfulness, contemptuousness, derision, disrespect; disparagement, condescension, superciliousness, hauteur, haughtiness, arrogance, snobbishness, indifference, distaste, dislike, disgust "she looked at him with disdain" verb 1. consider to be unworthy of one's consideration. "gamblers disdain four-horse races" synonyms:      scorn, deride, pour scorn on, regard with contempt, sneer at, sniff at, curl one's lip at, look down one's nose at, look down on; despise; informalturn up one's nose at, pooh-pooh "she disdained vulgar exhibitionism" hate h[ch257]t/Submit verb 1. feel intense or passionate dislike for (someone). "the boys hate each other" synonyms:      loathe, detest, despise, dislike, abhor, execrate; More noun 1. intense or passionate dislike. "feelings of hate and revenge" synonyms:      hatred, loathing, detestation, dislike, distaste, abhorrence, abomination, execration, aversion; hostility, enmity, animosity, antipathy, revulsion, disgust, contempt, odium "feelings of hate" hate's just an intense dislike, disdain is contempt and consider unworthy I can not like something but still consider it worthy to exist [/quote] Game.  Set.  Match. Nicely done!

Title: Re: keep on hating.... Post by MnSpring on 02/21/18 at 10:34:33 312E282F32350434043C2E22695B0 wrote: And let's not pretend that Every place on earth is inhabited by people who WANT to assimilate. In case you people have missed it, Europe is being destroyed.  Let's import that.  Or do you not see the difference between people who immigrated because they wanted to move to America and refugees whose COUNTRY WE DESTROYED? 2 Wars, did not destroy, Europe, but it changed it. I believe when the  word, ‘Destroy’, is used, It means a,  ‘change’,  and in the case of the FLOOD, of refugees.     NOT FOR THE BETTER.  (Which even Stevie Wonder, can SEE) And, Absolutely, Agree with: “…difference between people who immigrated because they wanted to move to America          and refugees whose COUNTRY WE DESTROYED…” And I would add.  ‘People who are Given a FREE  RIDE, to, ’The land of milk and honey’, and are given, FREE, everything they need to live. (Better than eating rocks & twigs, and sleeping in caves) Oh Wait, a Snowflake, Fairy Dust Sprinkler, says:  ’No No,  that doesn’t describe them’.

Title: Re: keep on hating.... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/21/18 at 12:13:59 Wars didn't change the core of the society like refugees are doing. And thanks for grasping the difference between people who Decided to immigrate. Set up the process of getting here And came because they wanted to Versus People who were bombed out Society wrecked And will come here as victims of war that We visited On them. Yeah, import That anger.

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