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Message started by raydawg on 02/28/18 at 08:43:57

Title: Us, and them.....
Post by raydawg on 02/28/18 at 08:43:57

Imagine that, public servants hiding accountability......
I can’t for the life of me, figure out why?
Oh, it’s almost all Democrats too.

http://komonews.com/news/local/calls-for-veto-flood-gov-inslees-office-after-lawmakers-approve-records-exemption-bill

Title: Re: Us, and them.....
Post by T And T Garage on 02/28/18 at 08:48:59


27342C31342232550 wrote:
Imagine that, public servants hiding accountability......
I can’t for the life of me, figure out why?
Oh, it’s almost all Democrats too.

http://komonews.com/news/local/calls-for-veto-flood-gov-inslees-office-after-lawmakers-approve-records-exemption-bill


Wait - so, they're hiding it now?  Do you mean to say that right now, in Seattle, the "mostly dems" are hiding their emails?

No ray - they're not.  They put forth a bill that should be vetoed.

Hyperbolic statement on your part ray.  Put this into context and there's a whole new take on it.

LOL - you should be writing headlines for fox news. (oh wait, I forgot - you're a democrat... ;D )

Title: Re: Us, and them.....
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/28/18 at 08:51:15

Gosh, Ray, why would They wanna do that?
If it's a problem, you're a conspiracy theorist.

Title: Re: Us, and them.....
Post by raydawg on 02/28/18 at 09:09:48


Why do you need to attack people instead of addressing the article....


The bill would bar the release of lawmakers’ emails, texts and calendars. Meetings with special interest groups, disciplinary reports and discussions about how to frame laws could also be withheld.

“They secretly passed a law to exempt themselves from the law that everyone else in the state who is an elected official has to abide by,” said Michelle Earl-Hubbard, a Seattle media law attorney representing media outlets in a public records case in Thurston County Superior Court.

Title: Re: Us, and them.....
Post by T And T Garage on 02/28/18 at 09:24:38


61726A77726474130 wrote:
Idiot...... like you read and comprehend.

Wait, you're calling me an idiot?

he bill would bar the release of lawmakers’ emails, texts and calendars. Meetings with special interest groups, disciplinary reports and discussions about how to frame laws could also be withheld.

“They secretly passed a law to exempt themselves from the law that everyone else in the state who is an elected official has to abide by,” said Michelle Earl-Hubbard, a Seattle media law attorney representing media outlets in a public records case in Thurston County Superior Court.


Let me ask you this, genius... has the governor signed the bill into law yet?  Um... nope.

Yes, it might have a veto proof majority, but look at what the people have done.

http://komonews.com/news/local/wash-newspapers-urge-veto-of-records-exemption-bill

So, yeah ray - your post is hyperbolic (you may have to look that word up I guess).

Now who's the idiot, hmmm?

Title: Re: Us, and them.....
Post by verslagen1 on 02/28/18 at 09:29:42


736D62636E736875070 wrote:
Wait - so, they're hiding it now?  Do you mean to say that right now, in Seattle, the "mostly dems" are hiding their emails?

No ray - they're not.  They put forth a bill that should be vetoed.

Hyperbolic statement on your part ray.  Put this into context and there's a whole new take on it.

LOL - you should be writing headlines for fox news. (oh wait, I forgot - you're a democrat... ;D )

You should read the article rather than give a knee jerk reply.
Dem's have a majority and can over ride the veto.

Title: Re: Us, and them.....
Post by T And T Garage on 02/28/18 at 09:34:16


766572736C6167656E31000 wrote:
[quote author=736D62636E736875070 link=1519836237/0#1 date=1519836539]Wait - so, they're hiding it now?  Do you mean to say that right now, in Seattle, the "mostly dems" are hiding their emails?

No ray - they're not.  They put forth a bill that should be vetoed.

Hyperbolic statement on your part ray.  Put this into context and there's a whole new take on it.

LOL - you should be writing headlines for fox news. (oh wait, I forgot - you're a democrat... ;D )

You should read the article rather than give a knee jerk reply.
Dem's have a majority and can over ride the veto.[/quote]

Please see post right above.  Look into the story - the public won't let it stand.  Further, read about what the bill really is.  Although it's still shady - it wouldn't bar all communications.

(and you're telling me to read the article?  ;D )

Title: Re: Us, and them.....
Post by verslagen1 on 02/28/18 at 09:43:24

So, you're not arguing the point.
You're just upset that ray is making a big deal out of it.

Ray, please don't put exclamation points periods (?) where they are not called for.   ::)

Title: Re: Us, and them.....
Post by T And T Garage on 02/28/18 at 09:50:19


27342C31342232550 wrote:
Why do you need to attack people instead of addressing the article....


Because the way you present it is (at best) misleading - read hyperbolic.

(btw, I see you changed your response.... good)

You seem to wonder "why all the disagreements?" or "why all the negativity?".  I'll tell you why - because instead of focusing on the article and what the public is doing - you go right to party politics (even though the bill was sponsored by a dem and a repub).

You call for "less combative atmosphere", yet you call me an idiot and post a story like this that you represent as a call out to dems.  The fact is, this story is not just about the bill - it's about the public standing up against it.  Calling for a veto.

Why not focus on that instead of party politics?


Title: Re: Us, and them.....
Post by T And T Garage on 02/28/18 at 09:55:34


6E7D6A6B74797F7D7629180 wrote:
So, you're not arguing the point.
You're just upset that ray is making a big deal out of it.


Kind of - yes.  If someone reads the article and does a little digging on that same site, they would realize that - yes, it's a terrible bill - but the focus is on the people flooding the governor's office with phone calls and emails calling for a veto.  Sending a message to the legislature.  That's the crux - not this:

Imagine that, public servants hiding accountability......
I can’t for the life of me, figure out why?
Oh, it’s almost all Democrats too.

http://komonews.com/news/local/calls-for-veto-flood-gov-inslees-office-after-...

Title: Re: Us, and them.....
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/28/18 at 10:53:41


6B747275686F5E6E5E66747833010 wrote:
Gosh, Ray, why would They wanna do that?
If it's a problem, you're a conspiracy theorist.



That's tongue in cheek..

Title: Re: Us, and them.....
Post by raydawg on 02/28/18 at 12:14:18


7F6066617C7B4A7A4A72606C27150 wrote:
[quote author=6B747275686F5E6E5E66747833010 link=1519836237/0#2 date=1519836675]Gosh, Ray, why would They wanna do that?
If it's a problem, you're a conspiracy theorist.



That's tongue in cheek.. [/quote]

I got that bub, np [ch128523]

Title: Re: Us, and them.....
Post by tom3215 on 03/01/18 at 13:44:07



I don't know nothing as I am a newbe, but
a guy has gotta love Ray cause he is old school - awesome!  ;)

Tom3215

Title: Re: Us, and them.....
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/01/18 at 17:01:44

Welcome Tom

Title: Re: Us, and them.....
Post by raydawg on 03/01/18 at 19:28:22


4853510F0E0D093C0 wrote:
I don't know nothing as I am a newbe, but
a guy has gotta love Ray cause he is old school - awesome!  ;)

Tom3215


Yeah, I'm sorta proud of that.....
Took me five years to do it, but darn, 3rd grade is hard  ;D

Old school, new school, nothing new being taught....
What is was, has always been, tho they declare it naught.

They pretend, its just began, like if they have a clue....
Put a shiny bumper, upon a heap....
And let them call it new!

As dust in the wind, for it must blow.....
Many round here, they choke on sand.
For its our luck, that most just suck.....
And that makes our life grand  ;D

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