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Message started by raydawg on 03/17/18 at 01:03:20

Title: Put your 2nd here......
Post by raydawg on 03/17/18 at 01:03:20

I still feel the right to keep and bear arms for the sake of a well regulated militia against the threat of tyranny, is strictly symbolic.
Weapons back in those days were pretty much the same if purchased privately, or issued for the governments interest.

To extend this reasoning, into today’s terms, it would mean private citizens could buy bombers, fighter jets, submarines, nukes, etc....

Makes a automatic rifle seem like a pea shooter  ;D

Title: Re: Put your 2nd here......
Post by Trippah on 03/17/18 at 06:02:53

Given that the Taliban have handed both Russia and the US our butts with only automatic  weapons, RPG's and IED...you don't need the billion dollar jet or trillion dollar Aircraft carrier; you fight for your neighborhood which you know better than the other guy (and have wealthy backers who help you buy weapons and supplies). :o

Can you imagine when overpasses all over the country start falling down, rail lines broken, internet towers disabled.

Title: Re: Put your 2nd here......
Post by WebsterMark on 03/17/18 at 06:37:31

100% correct Trip. Unless the plan was nuking the country into a waste land, we could defend ourselves against our military if they turned against us.

This scenario is why we have a 2nd Amendment. It's as valuable to us as any of the others.

Title: Re: Put your 2nd here......
Post by Serowbot on 03/17/18 at 07:42:32

Tell it to Waco and Ruby Ridge... ::)

Title: Re: Put your 2nd here......
Post by oldNslow on 03/17/18 at 08:08:28

Once the progressives get done turning this country into a lawless, third world sh*thole, we wont need a second amendment, or even a constitution for that matter.

You'll be able to buy an AR, or a fully automatic AK, at any outdoor flea market for a couple of hundred bucks just like you can in a lot of African and middle eastern countries.

That "gun show loophole" is gonna be an unintended consequence of their agenda that they didn't see coming I'll bet.

Title: Re: Put your 2nd here......
Post by WebsterMark on 03/17/18 at 08:21:21


2E382F322A3F32295D0 wrote:
Tell it to Waco and Ruby Ridge... ::)


And what's been the result of those instances? And weren't the charges against Bundy dropped? If California continues to thwart federal immigration laws and the Feds come in ala Little Rock school designation case, what then? Do leftist in CA make an armed stand? Should they?

I don't know but I do know an oppressive government thinks twice after Waco and Ruby Ridge. I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing. We are governed by our own permission, we willingly grant authority over ourselves.....up to a point.

Many nations allowed themselves to be overcome by themselves until it was to late to turn back.

Title: Re: Put your 2nd here......
Post by raydawg on 03/17/18 at 08:40:25

Excellent question Web......

If California continues to thwart federal immigration laws and the Feds come in ala Little Rock school designation case, what then? Do leftist in CA make an armed stand? Should they?  

I don't think many "resist" folks really understand the gravity of their actions.

They are forcing a standoff based on their "beliefs" as laws are very clear, on matters like this, not to mention how the success of our democracy rest upon that very foundation, not regressing to mob mentality and vigilante threats you see on campuses no less, goodness.....

Folks are becoming that of which they profess to hate!

Title: Re: Put your 2nd here......
Post by T And T Garage on 03/18/18 at 08:00:21

If anyone feels the "need" to possess guns because they're threatened by the government - that's paranoia, not Second Amendment exercise.

Why is it so hard for fervent conservatives to see that this isn't the 1940's?  Heck, it's not even the 1980's!

Do they really have that little faith in our country?  Do they live in that much fear of the government?

Title: Re: Put your 2nd here......
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/18/18 at 09:18:16

I'd be uncomfortable without a spare tire.
Why do you believe that not being completely vulnerable is paranoid?
Do you have food in the house to last a few weeks?
No?
That's kinda dumb.
Stuff happens.
The store doesn't have weeks worth of food. If trucks stop rolling, it's not gonna be good.
It's Fear and Paranoia to be prepared.
So you don't have insurance on your house, car, life.
Everything is gonna be alright.
Stop worrying.
No government has EVER screwed over its citizens.
Really?
How stupid is that?

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