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Message started by raydawg on 03/18/18 at 14:07:06

Title: What a sham......
Post by raydawg on 03/18/18 at 14:07:06

Trump was just not suppose to win.
The Clinton machine was like Nazi Germany in that it was impenetrable.
Go back, look at CNN, Washington Post, NYT, they all hoped for Trump.
You had the other GOP complaining of unfair coverage by them, not Russia.

Bernie was more a factor in hamstringing Clinton than Trump.

It was too late, when the revelations that Trump could win, Bernie was still causing Clinton angst, and folks who were lax in their due diligence, were getting caught in the same snare....
Like a basement server to plan Chelsea’s wedding, to smashed electronics,
Her majesty was not suppose to lose.

All of this is coming to the forefront, or a boil, of the real workings of corruption and power in DC because she was such a poor candidate, not based on issues, etc, no, but in her character.
She was damaged goods, and only a blind person could see it.

Yes, yes, Trump lacks character too, as is crazy in my assessment, however, he was not a big player in DC, and caught a break because of no other choices.

So, in effect, and the irony is, life will always find a way, like in nature, to tend to its needs.....
Because of Hillary, and after all the dust settles, we will see a better government, for it.

We should be thanking her, but she won’t see it, just like Trump doesn’t see it that the swamp he talks if draining, will be the swamp that drains him, too ;D

Title: Re: What a sham......
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/18/18 at 16:32:50

Bernie was more a factor in hamstringing Clinton than Trump.

Nobody shafted her worse than she did.

Title: Re: What a sham......
Post by T And T Garage on 03/18/18 at 18:37:45

283B233E3B2D3D5A0 wrote:

Trump was just not suppose to win.
The Clinton machine was like Nazi Germany in that it was impenetrable.
Go back, look at CNN, Washington Post, NYT, they all hoped for Trump.
You had the other GOP complaining of unfair coverage by them, not Russia.

Bernie was more a factor in hamstringing Clinton than Trump.

No, he wasn't. She ran a crappy campaign. The dnc was more a factor in the sham than Bernie.

It was too late, when the revelations that Trump could win, Bernie was still causing Clinton angst, and folks who were lax in their due diligence, were getting caught in the same snare....
Like a basement server to plan Chelsea’s wedding, to smashed electronics,
Her majesty was not suppose to lose.

See above...

All of this is coming to the forefront, or a boil, of the real workings of corruption and power in DC because she was such a poor candidate, not based on issues, etc, no, but in her character.
She was damaged goods, and only a blind person could see it.

Yes, yes, Trump lacks character too, as is crazy in my assessment, however, he was not a big player in DC, and caught a break because of no other choices.

Um, "no other choices"? There was a primary. The public had the opportunity to find out just who he was and they ignored it. We got the president we deserve.

So, in effect, and the irony is, life will always find a way, like in nature, to tend to its needs.....
Because of Hillary, and after all the dust settles, we will see a better government, for it.

Because of hillary? No, not just her... because of who's in the white house now, because of his poor choices, because of the general state of politics in general, things are at a tipping point.

We should be thanking her, but she won’t see it, just like Trump doesn’t see it that the swamp he talks if draining, will be the swamp that drains him, too ;D

Title: Re: What a sham......
Post by raydawg on 03/18/18 at 19:09:01

"Thirty percent of the people who voted for Donald Trump had voted for President Obama," Durbin pointed out. "Why? The same people who looked for change with President Obama thought there wasn’t enough as far as their personal lives were concerned and they supported Donald Trump.

Just what I have said all along.........

Title: Re: What a sham......
Post by T And T Garage on 03/18/18 at 19:27:39

65766E73766070170 wrote:

I wonder where that number came from? Not sure if I believe that, unless it's verified. If it is true, you can be sure that that 30% won't make the same mistake again.

Voting for change, just for the sake of change, is a sure fire path to disappointment. (as we've seen in our president)

Title: Re: What a sham......
Post by raydawg on 03/18/18 at 19:31:35

thingy Durban made that comment today.

But I guess he must have a hard on for Hillary too.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/03/18/durbin-hillary-clinton-trump-voters-469912

Title: Re: What a sham......
Post by T And T Garage on 03/18/18 at 19:47:18

5D4E564B4E58482F0 wrote:

thingy Durban made that comment today.

But I guess he must have a hard on for Hillary too.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/03/18/durbin-hillary-clinton-trump-voters-469912

I never said he didn't say it - I wonder where that number comes from.

Although it really doesn't matter. The damage is done and the mistake can't be taken back. But it can be, and will be, corrected in the midterms.

You should vote this time ray.

BTW, durbin is a corporately owned dem and does seem to pay too much attention to hillary. Don't be jealous ray, I'm sure she still has room in her life for you too. ;D