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Message started by T And T Garage on 04/13/18 at 11:44:18

Title: Missouri Loves Company
Post by T And T Garage on 04/13/18 at 11:44:18

Well, it's (soon to be former) governor does...

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a19756416/missouri-greitens-sex-scandal/

The woman told lawmakers that in March 2015, as she tried to leave the basement of his St. Louis home, Greitens grabbed her in a "bear hug" and laid her on the floor. Then he started fondling her, pulled out his pen1s and coerced her into oral sex while she wept “uncontrollably.”

Yeah, he's a member of that "family values party"...

Title: Re: Missouri Loves Company
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/13/18 at 17:32:22

Sounds just slightly unbelievable.
IDK how smart he is
But
IMO
Sticking your weenie in someone's
Mouth
When they don't Want you to
Is inviting getting it BIT OFF.
And, if she didn't BITE,
Why not?
So stupid

Title: Re: Missouri Loves Company
Post by T And T Garage on 04/18/18 at 06:27:14

Looks like the GOP's done with this loser.

Well, that's one smart thing they've done....

http://www.yahoo.com/news/missouri-lawmakers-return-under-greitens-cloud-040645497--politics.html

Again, imagine if this were a democratic governor.

Title: Re: Missouri Loves Company
Post by FormerlyLostArtist on 04/18/18 at 07:48:56


736C6A6D70774676467E6C602B190 wrote:
Sounds just slightly unbelievable.
IDK how smart he is
But
IMO
Sticking your weenie in someone's
Mouth
When they don't Want you to
Is inviting getting it BIT OFF.
And, if she didn't BITE,
Why not?
So stupid



Blaming the victim?

Title: Re: Missouri Loves Company
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/18/18 at 08:23:08

Blaming the victim?
You can read that and come away with THAT?
You're delusional

Title: Re: Missouri Loves Company
Post by FormerlyLostArtist on 04/18/18 at 09:22:10


57484E4954536252625A48440F3D0 wrote:
Blaming the victim?
You can read that and come away with THAT?
You're delusional


"And, if she didn't BITE,
Why not?
So stupid" .

that part, makes it sound like you are blaming her for being too stupid to bite.  

Which in the "personal responsibility" world, means there was something she didn't do to prevent it, therefore it's her responsibility that it happened.





Title: Re: Missouri Loves Company
Post by MnSpring on 04/18/18 at 09:29:55


4E505F5E534E55483A0 wrote:
Looks like the GOP's done with this loser.
Well, that's one smart thing they've done....
http://www.yahoo.com/news/missouri-lawmakers-return-under-greitens-cloud-040645497--politics.html
Again, imagine if this were a democratic governor.


It it was a good Democrat, most probably the same thing.

If it was a Ultra-Liberal Democrat, who sprinkles Fairy Dust and supports ANTIFA  Ideals.
Probably just get a good pair of Knee Pads

;D   ;D   ;D   ;D   ;D   ;D   ;D   ;D  



Title: Re: Missouri Loves Company
Post by MnSpring on 04/18/18 at 09:36:33


6148554A42554B5E6B4854536655534E5453270 wrote:
Blaming the victim?


I looked over that link, and others,  
And did NOT see,
  that he had a Gun or Knife held to her head.

Do I agree, UN-Believable.




Title: Re: Missouri Loves Company
Post by Serowbot on 04/18/18 at 09:46:15


10330E2D2F34333A5D0 wrote:
If it was a Ultra-Liberal Democrat, who sprinkles Fairy Dust and supports ANTIFA  Ideals.
Probably just get a good pair of Knee Pads

;D   ;D   ;D   ;D   ;D   ;D   ;D   ;D  

I'm just not getting things today.

"Fairy dust",.. implies effeminate over-sensitivity,... but Pub's say ANTFA is ultra-violent...
I assume "Knee pads" to insinuate a blow job...

This is just a mishmash of unrelated insults with no uniting structure.
I think you're listening to too much Trump... :-?

Title: Re: Missouri Loves Company
Post by raydawg on 04/18/18 at 09:48:11

Or CNN.....

Title: Re: Missouri Loves Company
Post by Serowbot on 04/18/18 at 09:50:56

Jesus... ::)

Title: Re: Missouri Loves Company
Post by youzguyz on 04/18/18 at 10:30:00


3422352830252833470 wrote:
Jesus... ::)


In the immortal (immoral?) words of Mel Brooks:  "What?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3kcnm2THXI

Title: Re: Missouri Loves Company
Post by MnSpring on 04/18/18 at 10:30:48


7660776A72676A71050 wrote:
 "Fairy dust",.. implies effeminate over-sensitivity,... but Pub's say ANTFA is ultra-violent...
I assume "Knee pads" to insinuate a blow job...


The one thing that is confusing you is,
 "... supports ANTIFA  Ideals..."

I was referencing the very frequent poster,
who has many times said that;
 he/she, Supports  ANTIFA, less the Violence.

If you take violence out of ANTIFA,
what you have left is, Stand in the Street Criers.
(Which would be like your description of, 'Fairy Dust Sprinklers')

Your assumption of, 'Knee Pads', would be correct.

(I wonder if  B. Clinton had some, to give to people that could use them when in the W.H.)





Title: Re: Missouri Loves Company
Post by FormerlyLostArtist on 04/18/18 at 10:39:03


4D6E537072696E67000 wrote:
[quote author=6148554A42554B5E6B4854536655534E5453270 link=1523645058/0#3 date=1524062936]
Blaming the victim?


I looked over that link, and others,  
And did NOT see,
  that he had a Gun or Knife held to her head.

Do I agree, UN-Believable.



[/quote]

yeah because physical violence and serious injury is only dependent on weapons...  

the following is a a whataboutism (I'm calling it out to show the fallacy and possible inconsistency of this argument)
if so, then do you support black lives matters when they protest against the events of unarmed black people being shot by cops?  I mean, if they didn't have a weapon, they couldn't possibly threaten the cop's life to the point where they'd need to shoot them right?

Title: Re: Missouri Loves Company
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/18/18 at 10:42:05

Sounds just slightly unbelievable.
IDK how smart he is
But
IMO
Sticking your

The whole thing was stupid.
WTF is wrong with people?
Why would he do that?
And did he really think he would get away with it?

Title: Re: Missouri Loves Company
Post by MnSpring on 04/18/18 at 10:45:34

In the immortal (immoral?) words of Mel Brooks:  "What?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3kcnm2THXI



LOLOL
  Reminding me of  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnF1OtP2Svk

Just had to take time to watch it  LOLOL

Title: Re: Missouri Loves Company
Post by MnSpring on 04/18/18 at 11:27:42


745D405F57405E4B7E5D41467340465B4146320 wrote:
"... if so, then do you support black lives matters when they protest against the events of unarmed black people being shot by cops?  


In Answer to your question, I will ask one.
(This happened here not to long ago)

You Stop a Car, go to the Passenger side,
the Black passenger says, "I Have A Gun",
you say, "Don't reach for anything"
The  passenger, moves his hands,
you aim your gun at him.
You say again: "don't reach for anything"
The passenger does.

What would, YOU,  do ????

Yes the Passenger did NOT  have a Gun,
Yes the Passenger was shot and killed.
Yes the passenger had Black skin.
Yet, BLM,  LIED,  Toraly LIED,
by Omission of  FACT.
Instead, BLM Cut Fences, Trespassed, Destroyed property, and stopped traffic on freeways.
The Driver used her Cell phone, and put the video ALL over,
yet, NOTHING, before, the, 'Shooting' was showen, except the words from the Passenger saying, 'I have a gun".

Trial, the Police Officer, who shot a un-armed man.
Who SAID: 'I HAVE A GUN", was acquitted.

Then the BLM, Rioted ALL over again !

Then their was the occasion where, BLM said a Black male was HANDCUFFED, and Shot.
 And Rioted.
Then a  Video, surfaced,  and it SHOWED, the Black man, was NOT  handcuffed, and was GRASPING for a Officers Gun.
Officers Acquitted.  BLM   Riots again.

Seem to remember a BLM saying, a Black man, had his hands in the air.
and it was PROVEN, beyond a shadow of a doubt, he did NOT.

So Yea,  in the case of someone, 'saying', a   BJ was forced..
when their is NO  evidence of, 'forcing'.

 Yea. My opinion Stands.

 










Title: Re: Missouri Loves Company
Post by T And T Garage on 04/18/18 at 11:50:16


382E343B2634383B410 wrote:
[quote author=3422352830252833470 link=1523645058/0#10 date=1524070256]Jesus... ::)


In the immortal (immoral?) words of Mel Brooks:  "What?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3kcnm2THXI
[/quote]


AWESOME LINK!!

Thanks YouzGuyz!!

Title: Re: Missouri Loves Company
Post by FormerlyLostArtist on 04/18/18 at 11:55:29


6F4C7152504B4C45220 wrote:
[quote author=745D405F57405E4B7E5D41467340465B4146320 link=1523645058/0#13 date=1524073143] "... if so, then do you support black lives matters when they protest against the events of unarmed black people being shot by cops?  


In Answer to your question, I will ask one.
(This happened here not to long ago)

You Stop a Car, go to the Passenger side,
the Black passenger says, "I Have A Gun",
you say, "Don't reach for anything"
The  passenger, moves his hands,
you aim your gun at him.
You say again: "don't reach for anything"
The passenger does.

What would, YOU,  do ????

Yes the Passenger did NOT  have a Gun,
Yes the Passenger was shot and killed.
Yes the passenger had Black skin.
Yet, BLM,  LIED,  Toraly LIED,
by Omission of  FACT.
Instead, BLM Cut Fences, Trespassed, Destroyed property, and stopped traffic on freeways.
The Driver used her Cell phone, and put the video ALL over,
yet, NOTHING, before, the, 'Shooting' was showen, except the words from the Passenger saying, 'I have a gun".

Trial, the Police Officer, who shot a un-armed man.
Who SAID: 'I HAVE A GUN", was acquitted.

Then the BLM, Rioted ALL over again !

Then their was the occasion where, BLM said a Black male was HANDCUFFED, and Shot.
 And Rioted.
Then a  Video, surfaced,  and it SHOWED, the Black man, was NOT  handcuffed, and was GRASPING for a Officers Gun.
Officers Acquitted.  BLM   Riots again.

Seem to remember a BLM saying, a Black man, had his hands in the air.
and it was PROVEN, beyond a shadow of a doubt, he did NOT.

So Yea,  in the case of someone, 'saying', a   BJ was forced..
when their is NO  evidence of, 'forcing'.

 Yea. My opinion Stands.

 
[/quote]

from the article: "The woman told the committee that Greitens had led her down to the basement, taped her hands to pull-up rings, blindfolded her, spit water into her mouth, ripped open her shirt, pulled down her pants and took a photo without her consent.He threatened to make the photos public if she ever told anyone about their encounter, and called her "a little sleeper," the woman told lawmakers. After her hands were freed, she said she felt she had no other choice but to perform oral sex if she was going to get out of the basement. The woman and Greitens had several sexual encounters over the next few months in 2015, she testified. Some were consensual. Others were not. On at least three occasions he hit her."

no evidence of force???   So he had already proven he could overpower her and put her into a constrained condition where he could do anything he wanted to her, but sure, no evidence of force....


I'm not saying that the cops did anything wrong, I'm saying they have the same fear reaction that this woman did. They were threatened by men, she was threatened by a man. They both feared for their lives.  She was threatened and complied to the demands because she couldn't fight back against  a bigger and dominant force.  They had a gun to react with deadly force, she didn't. You came up with this "no evidence of force" out of thin air apparently to defend your inconsistency.  You seem to be defending this guy for some reason.  Are you succumbing to your us vs them tribalism that allows this kind of crap to happen on both sides?  Maybe you should ask yourself, Are you part of the problem?








Title: Re: Missouri Loves Company
Post by MnSpring on 04/18/18 at 14:27:57


7158455A52455B4E7B5844437645435E4443370 wrote:
"...After her hands were freed, she said she felt she had no other choice but to perform oral sex if she was going to get out of the basement. The woman and Greitens had several sexual encounters over the next few months in 2015, she testified. Some were consensual. ..."


Yep, you are right lost!
She had NO  Possible way, None whatsoever, totally dominated to do something.  

What is that called again, when someone does exactaly, what they are TOLD to do !



Title: Re: Missouri Loves Company
Post by FormerlyLostArtist on 04/18/18 at 14:44:19


6A497457554E4940270 wrote:
[quote author=7158455A52455B4E7B5844437645435E4443370 link=1523645058/15#18 date=1524077729] "...After her hands were freed, she said she felt she had no other choice but to perform oral sex if she was going to get out of the basement. The woman and Greitens had several sexual encounters over the next few months in 2015, she testified. Some were consensual. ..."


Yep, you are right lost!
She had NO  Possible way, None whatsoever, totally dominated to do something.  

What is that called again, when someone does exactaly, what they are TOLD to do !


[/quote]


under threat or duress, it's called abuse.

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