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Message started by LostArtist on 06/05/18 at 12:31:08

Title: why the antagonism?
Post by LostArtist on 06/05/18 at 12:31:08

I'm letting it go.

As best I can anyway.

if you can't talk to me without trying to make me into the enemy, I don't need to talk to you.

not everything is a giant conspiracy, or the evil's of liberals or conservatives or whoever. If you have to identify everything that way, I don't need to talk to you.

not everything is extreme in every way, there are complete areas of VAST grey without slippery slopes. If you push everything to the edge, I don't need to talk to you.

:-/

now you know why I haven't been talking here much lately

Title: Re: why the antagonism?
Post by WebsterMark on 06/05/18 at 13:25:22

who's being antagonistic? I thought everything was fine. I'm having interesting discussion with eegore.

Title: Re: why the antagonism?
Post by Eegore on 06/05/18 at 15:02:51

I don't have an expectation of how people will react to anything I say. I still get private messages complaining that I don't ride my own bikes. I cant imagine why anyone cares about that, but they do.

State what you want, who cares if anyone else wants to turn pretty much every thread into something about Trump or Hillary or Millennials or whatever else.

If you are their enemy for having an opinion on a motorcycle forum then good for them.

Title: Re: why the antagonism?
Post by MShipley on 06/06/18 at 09:57:50

Interesting post "lostartist" considering that the rudest most disrespectful person I have run into on this forum was you.... You are why I rarely post here anymore.

Title: Re: why the antagonism?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/06/18 at 11:57:40

When people profess a position that doesn't stand up to a logical analysis and after that is established and they Will Not change their thinking,
Frustration springs up, and that's why the animosity.

Title: Re: why the antagonism?
Post by LostArtist on 06/07/18 at 12:46:10

544A717069757C60190 wrote:

Interesting post "lostartist" considering that the rudest most disrespectful person I have run into on this forum was you.... You are why I rarely post here anymore.

well, I understand, and I apologize, trying to turn over a new leaf, we'll see how it goes

Title: Re: why the antagonism?
Post by LostArtist on 06/07/18 at 12:47:30

382721263B3C0D3D0D35272B60520 wrote:

When people profess a position that doesn't stand up to a logical analysis and after that is established and they Will Not change their thinking,
Frustration springs up, and that's why the animosity.

I understand that, as I know it goes both ways, I'm trying to rise above that, but, I'm not the best person in the world so idk if I can.

Title: Re: why the antagonism?
Post by MShipley on 06/07/18 at 12:51:24

7F5C40477241475A4047330 wrote:

[quote author=544A717069757C60190 link=1528227068/0#3 date=1528304270]Interesting post "lostartist" considering that the rudest most disrespectful person I have run into on this forum was you.... You are why I rarely post here anymore.

Title: Re: why the antagonism?
Post by raydawg on 06/07/18 at 13:27:05

7D5E4245704345584245310 wrote:

well, I understand, and I apologize, trying to turn over a new leaf, we'll see how it goes[/quote]

Lost, I will break my self imposed exile of this board to respond to you....

Please understand what I am saying is not lecturing, or advising you, merely sharing of my own experiences of life, I hope that makes clear sense to you.

I have found through my 65.5 years of living that nothing will come to me, if it’s predicated on others having to “give it.”
If what I say, or do, is based on my “expectations” then I have been unfairly burdening any honest chance at relationships.
In fact, clinically speaking, I have chosen to be co-dependant, in others, and if my words/actions do not result in filling those “needs” anger and resentment will be the resulting...
Which I can then pass on to them, as cause, never finding what I am supposedly looking for because I am the one not being honest and truthful to myself.
It can quickly cycle itself over and over again, but the results remain the same.
If I can not be brutally honest about myself, which will then free me to “listen” to others, not agree, but listen.....
Then I will never know the true me, nor know real sustainable peace, through self acceptance, and self worth, is....
And BTW, we will never reach the fix, or repair, never, all mankind is fallen, and his task is daily, to try and overcome our own selfish nature.

I am not a unique or wise, or have anything above anyone else, no, all I can honestly do is try and be honest, to myself, and at times, it eludes me, but I keep trying.

I hope you find peace and joy, you find one, you found the other ;)

Title: Re: why the antagonism?
Post by LostArtist on 06/07/18 at 13:32:06

160833322B373E225B0 wrote:

[quote author=7F5C40477241475A4047330 link=1528227068/0#5 date=1528400770][quote author=544A717069757C60190 link=1528227068/0#3 date=1528304270]Interesting post "lostartist" considering that the rudest most disrespectful person I have run into on this forum was you.... You are why I rarely post here anymore.

well, I understand, and I apologize, trying to turn over a new leaf, we'll see how it goes[/quote]

I respect that, we all have failures, I fully understand that it is a trying time to have conversations.
[/quote]

it really doesn't help when the conversations aren't focused either, when everyone wants to make a slam dunk case and destroy the other position and condemn them to every position their "side" takes