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Message started by WebsterMark on 06/11/18 at 05:35:32

Title: What's a sport?
Post by WebsterMark on 06/11/18 at 05:35:32

Last year sometime, a bunch of us from work got into a discussion if ping-pong is a sport. We ended up coming up with a list of criteria that had to be met to call something a sport. My contribution was the most controversial but ultimately a key dividing line between sport and recreation. If you think about it a while, it makes sense.

1) If at the highest skill level of competition of this event, if men and woman compete together on the same 'field' under the same rules and both have a likelihood of winning, then the action under discussion is not a sport.

For example under this criteria, Indy Car, Nascar, Drag racing are not sports. On the other hand, Motocross is a sport.

Title: Re: What's a sport?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/11/18 at 07:03:00

Disagree
Difference between sport and recreation is attitude of participants.
A contest for money or bragging rights is a sporting contest.
Bowling, on a league or as a pro,is a sport. Bowling with the girlfriend for fun is recreation, and maybe some hopes of procreation..

Title: Re: What's a sport?
Post by Serowbot on 06/11/18 at 08:12:17

If you've ever watched that "Ninja Warrior" tv show,... some very small women have done incredibly well,... and it's a very physical challenge.
So I wouldn't say a sport that men and women can compete equally in is not a sport.

Physical strength is not the only winning criteria... skill, agility, speed, endurance, strategy, etc.... play a part...

That silly thing with an iron kettle,... ain't a sport though... ::)

Title: Re: What's a sport?
Post by WebsterMark on 06/11/18 at 08:44:32

That's my point. Incredibly well is not the same as equal in competition. Face it, no woman has a prayer of competing equally on Ninja, there's always the implicit and unspoken words, "for a woman". And that's okay, we're not supposed to be equal.

The debate we had started with ESPN showing poker. And while I get Jog's point, I think a sport deserves a different definition.

Iron kettle? You mean curling?

Title: Re: What's a sport?
Post by Serowbot on 06/11/18 at 09:26:10

Yeah, curling...

Maybe you're right,... I think men and women might have equal chance in curling,.. and maybe that's why I don't see it as a legitimate sport.

I wouldn't count archery, shooting, chess, poker, or even golf as sports either. Skills yes, sports no...
I'd call them "competitions"....

Also those activities that are judged on style... i.e., figure skating, freestyle boarding, sycro swimming, etc......
Not really sports are they?...
Competitions, but not sports...

Title: Re: What's a sport?
Post by Serowbot on 06/11/18 at 09:40:37

Hmmmm?... Competitive eating?...
;D ;D ;D
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Title: Re: What's a sport?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/11/18 at 11:04:30

So now it's
Sport
Competition
Recreation?

Title: Re: What's a sport?
Post by MnSpring on 06/11/18 at 11:10:44

Are, archery, shooting, chess, poker, golf, PP, etc, etc, etc, (Probably 100’s), sports, games, skills, or competitions.

It will depend on who you talk to.

If one says: Brent Favre is connected with what sport?
A whole lot would say the right answer.
If one said: Jerry Miculek is connected with what sport ?
Lot, LESS, would be able to give the correct answer.

So the person, that is doing that thing,
Will have a opinion on what to call it,
and it is probably different that the person,
who does Not do that thing, opinion.
And most probably not a solid consensus will be reached,
and it is to be argued about for some time.

Kinna Like, “well regulated militia”, when not reading the rest.
when not understanding what it meant 250+ years ago.

What is a, ’Sport’, is a interesting discussion, and really doesn’t affect anything but perhaps, ‘pride’, in a person that does that thing.

What is, “well regulated militia”, is a mater of Freedom, and Life.

Title: Re: What's a sport?
Post by Serowbot on 06/11/18 at 13:27:02

...'cause it's always about guns... ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: What's a sport?
Post by MnSpring on 06/11/18 at 14:44:19

4452455840555843370 wrote:

...'cause it's always about guns...

Sure !
They both have group/s of people that cannot decide, what something is.

One argument, is interesting, and it affects, little, in the way of Life.

The other, DOES, affect Life and Freedom.

So in this case,
You-Betcha. (said in a Fargo accent)

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: What's a sport?
Post by LostArtist on 06/11/18 at 15:23:04

794B4C5D5A4B5C634F5C452E0 wrote:

figures... embrace your animal side... nothing else matters huh?

Title: Re: What's a sport?
Post by LostArtist on 06/11/18 at 15:39:27

how about simply

a competition where physical skills/techniques/abilities are vital to succeeding

so like chess, not a sport, because it doesn't matter if you physically move the piece or have a computer do it

but in football, simply thinking through the perfect play/plan only matters if you can physically execute that play/plan

yeah, it's a broad, vastly INCLUSIVE definition, but at least it's not innately sexist

not saying that there aren't physical differences between men and women, but they don't have to be used to define everything.

Title: Re: What's a sport?
Post by WebsterMark on 06/11/18 at 17:19:40

You don’t seem to really believe there’s much difference in the genders.