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Title: I recognized several TT regulars below... Post by WebsterMark on 08/21/18 at 06:17:36 There is a whole group of Americans whose sole political position is: “We hate Trump.” From the moment he won the election, it has been total war against the president, like nothing this country has experienced before. The left is in a moral panic. The liberal position on any issue can be summarized as: Where’s Trump on this? Oh, that’s awful. The Resistance doesn’t care about Trump’s positions—they couldn’t name his positions. The problem is aesthetic. Liberals can’t abide having that vulgarian in the Oval Office. … It’s not only who he is that enrages them, but whom he replaced. Liberals absolutely adored Obama, often obscenely so. Liberal women openly boasted about dreaming of having sex with him. Even MSNBC’s Chris Matthews got a thrill up his leg. They didn’t care about Obama’s positions, either. He’s the mirror image of Trump. Obama was cool, elegant, slender, looked great in a suit. The fact that he was black was just a super-bonus. Fanatically supporting Obama meant liberals got to have a black friend. They liked that he was against the Iraq War but would have supported him even if he weren’t. To go from Obama to the crudest kind of parvenu, bragging about his wealth and IQ, with gold-plated everything, was too much. It would be like having Fred Astaire as your president and then getting Rodney Dangerfield. We get it, liberals—you hate Trump. But you’ve convinced yourselves that he poses some kind of existential threat when your real objection is that you think he’s a douchebag. The Resistance imagines indignation gives their apoplexy dignity. Instead of admitting they’re enraged that this clown moved into Obama’s house, liberals say: The nation is in crisis. On election night, NBC’s Mark Halperin informed Stephen Colbert’s audience, “Outside of the Civil War, World War II, and including 9/11, this may be the most cataclysmic event the country’s ever seen.” Since then, it’s been a game of one-upmanship, to see who can issue the most shocking denunciation of Trump. Liberals weren’t always this excitable. They used to pride themselves on their detached view of the passing scene, sneering at the lowbrows’ tendency to overreact. I thought the whole thing about being cool was to be cool. But since Trump’s election, liberals are the ones hyperventilating over nothing and devoting their lives to demented conspiracy theories. Conservatives are the cool ones, refusing to freak out over every little thing. … Trump’s election has marked a tossing off of all previous norms from every institution in America: the courts, the colleges, elected officials, civil rights activists, the states, feminists, late-night comedians, the “swamp,” athletes, the deep state, and, of course, the press and social media. Even the pope! In her first post-election interview on May 2, 2017, Hillary Clinton blithely announced that she was now “part of the Resistance.” It was a total break with American history—the losing side in an election is generally known as “the loyal opposition.” If Donald Trump had said such a thing about Hillary—or, God forbid, about Obama—it would have been taken as a Klan reference. There would have been demands to imprison him. He’s issuing a call to violence! “Resistance” is a military term! It’s a “dog whistle” to the militias and the KKK! What if Trump supporters then went on a violent rampage, donning masks and beating up Hillary supporters? I think everyone would recognize that we were in the middle of a fascist uprising. But Hillary’s claim to be part of the Resistance, followed by organized violence against conservatives, seems to alarm no one— apart from the people getting beaten up. After all, we’re talking about Trump. Hundreds of young white liberals showed up at Trump’s inauguration with the stated goal of making the historic event “a giant clusterf*ck.” Under an umbrella group named DisruptJ20—the inauguration was on January 20—self-described anti-capitalists, anti-fascists, and anarchists ran wild, smashing store windows, spray-painting cars, setting fires, and throwing bricks at cops and flares into police cars. About two hundred of the rioters were arrested, but, apart from the handful who pleaded guilty, not one has been convicted. The judge threw out one of the most serious charges against them, “inciting a riot,” because, under the law, “inciting a riot” is defined as “inviting Ann Coulter to give a speech.” As the title of a Washington Post op-ed described the dangerousness of conservative speech: “Fiery rhetoric a close relative of violence.” Is violence a close relative of violence? Trump-era rules: violence is speech and speech is violence. … The Resistance has ruined comedy, which is now judged on the target of the joke, not on being funny. And the target is always Trump. Samantha Bee, the archetypal modern comedian, editorializes instead of telling jokes. There will be no clever twists or surprise endings. A “joke” consists of a long string of invective, with the humor measured by the number of syllables she uses—the carrot- topped, human-nuts-stain dumpster fire . . . Most comics couldn’t look themselves in the mirror if they were doing the same routine every night. But when a mania has swept the country, taking the easy path can be richly rewarding. Did you hear that applause? And look! HuffPo is linking to us! In that environment, you have to have a lot of character to say, “I’m going to do comedy.” The few brave comedians still doing something that is recognizable as humor have to live in fear of the Revolutionary Committee censuring them for insufficient anti-Trumpiness. YOU TOUSLED DONALD TRUMP’S HAIR! It was a comedy sketch! We are aware. You have been put on notice. IT MUST HAVE BEEN AGONIZING TO PRETEND TO CARE ABOUT PEOPLE IN INDIANA The bedrock of the old-style Democratic Party was economic fairness. But today, liberals love that income is wildly maldistributed, with them at the top. As long as they cut a check to BLM and fly a rainbow flag, they can live like nineteenth-century robber barons. Corporate America is delighted—I had no idea it was this easy! The rest of us can only sit trembling, waiting for the next great social justice warrior idea for remaking thousands years of human history. Borders, genders, what’s next? Liberals live mostly in the moneyed areas on the coasts. With their basic subsistence needs taken care of, they are free to dedicate themselves to patrolling the borders of class. The party’s new motto could be “Keeping the Bathwater and Throwing Out the Baby!” The left has no complaint with the rich—they are the rich! There will be no policing of Wall Street. Only Internet memes and Twitter jokes are heavily policed for inappropriate humor. The Resistance has become a hilarious version of the straights, the squares—the uptight businessman in his business suit, going to the big office. They have become “the Man.” Being “woke” is just another status symbol, proving they are elite enough to insulate themselves from the consequences of their BLM/social justice warrior policies. Their kids will still get into Harvard. Trump gives snobs a wonderful opportunity: by sneering at him, they can make fun of the Walmart types without getting called on it, because they’re technically talking about a rich man who is president. Hillary spoke to liberals’ deepest beliefs when she called Trump supporters “deplorables.” The Democratic base loathes guns, Confederate monuments, steelworkers, and Trump because they all represent a certain kind of middle-class American. They care more about a female Yale law grad who didn’t make partner at a fancy New York law firm than a union plant bookkeeper whose job has been outsourced to Mexico. In a way, it’s more honest having liberals not bothering to pretend to like flyover people anymore. Nothing the Russians ever dreamed of could compare to what the Resistance is doing to democracy, obliterating the will of Trump voters, who wanted him to get to work on urgent problems. It is nothing less than a coup. My advice to the Resistance is: Get Trump on the worst thing he’s actually done, and stop running off with Wouldn’t it be great if he raped and murdered a nun? You’re right: if Trump had done that, he would be finished, done, put a fork in him. Unfortunately, he hasn’t committed that particular crime. What the Resistance is accusing him of is even crazier: Donald Trump plotted with the Russkies to steal the election from the most qualified person ever to run for president! If you’d care to join me here on planet Earth, Trump is practically begging the media to go after him for not caring about any of the issues he ran on. But unfortunately, liberals have lost their minds. |
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Title: Re: I recognized several TT regulars below... Post by T And T Garage on 08/21/18 at 06:36:13 LOL - ann coulter? Really? I see a lot of idiocy in that cut & paste. Nice try though. |
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Title: Re: I recognized several TT regulars below... Post by faffi on 08/21/18 at 06:39:40 Actually, the article could be very good for expressing a point of view, Mark, just sad you could not resist throwing in the insults and derogatory remarks that made this not an input for discussion, but another base for the tiring flaming wars we constantly see here. |
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Title: Re: I recognized several TT regulars below... Post by WebsterMark on 08/21/18 at 07:10:54 I recognize several TT regulars. You don't? You don't see TT, Sew and EAU in there? Completely unhinged. |
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Title: Re: I recognized several TT regulars below... Post by faffi on 08/21/18 at 07:13:52 If others do similar mistakes, does that make your any better? |
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Title: Re: I recognized several TT regulars below... Post by Serowbot on 08/21/18 at 07:58:23 Liberals are wealthy, elitist, snobs, that live off government welfare, handouts, and subsistence... Uhh huh... :-? |
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Title: Re: I recognized several TT regulars below... Post by WebsterMark on 08/21/18 at 08:11:10 434443434C250 wrote:
I'm not following your train of thought there. What do you mean to say? |
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Title: Re: I recognized several TT regulars below... Post by T And T Garage on 08/21/18 at 08:54:43 340601101706112E021108630 wrote:
Unhinged? No. Upset, frustrated, embarrassed? Yep. This idiot trump has taken the presidency down a path that will be tough to recover from. How can you not see that? Moreover, how can you continue to defend him? Are you really that vain? Are you going to sit there and tell us that if a democrat was in office and had these same mannerisms that the right wouldn't have him run out on a rail by now?? Are you really that shallow - just because a "republican" won? The man has zero qualifications, can't talk off-prompter without sounding like a child, has been married 3 times, has cheated at least twice in those marriages, has a wife who posed nude for money, has all his children working for him in his administration, continues to run his businesses while in office, tweets like a 14 year old girl, name-calls, holds rally after rally, makes his staff pledge their faithfulness, etc., etc., etc. This is why we (those opposed to trump) are the way we are. It's not "butt-huttedness", it's not about "hating all republicans", it's not "TDS" - it's genuine concern and looking at the big picture. Take a look at what he's done to embolden the hate groups on the right. We haven't seen an upswing in white nationalists running for public office like this in several decades. We have a confirmed nazi running in IL on the GOP ticket!! What's that say? A better question might be - why aren't you more upset mark?? |
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Title: Re: I recognized several TT regulars below... Post by WebsterMark on 08/21/18 at 09:40:02 Are you going to sit there and tell us that if a democrat was in office and had these same mannerisms that the right wouldn't have him run out on a rail by now?? Absolutely we would have. But Trump produces, the Democrat wouldn't have. When you produce, rules don't apply the same. A great saying in the sales world is: revenue hides a multitude of sins. A better question might be - why aren't you more upset mark?? Because the vast (if not entirely) litany of faults, problems, perceived crimes, etc that you list are, in the big picture, meaningless or vastly exaggerated. The rise in right wing hate.... what a joke. The last big protest had about 20 nutjobs that no one pays any attention to except those with TDS who see the Klan on every street corner. One Nazi runs for office and you think that means something significant? The economic health of the nation is better today than 2 years ago. Period. End of sentence. Full stop. Everything I think makes the US a better nation is moving in the right direction. I don't care if Trump was married 3 times and all the rest of the crap you mentioned. He makes JFK look like a Saint in comparison. Look, while Trump is President, the office is not being looked at as some office of morality. Jimmy Carter, Obama were both fine upstanding men. Terrible Presidents, particularly Carter, but fine men. I'd rather have Trump right now. |
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Title: Re: I recognized several TT regulars below... Post by T And T Garage on 08/21/18 at 09:57:31 122027363120370824372E450 wrote:
How can you say that Obama was a terrible president? Look at the start and look at the finish. Millions of jobs, far lower unemployment, record corporate profits, respect in the world and OBL dead. Yeah, "terrible". |
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Title: Re: I recognized several TT regulars below... Post by WebsterMark on 08/21/18 at 10:03:59 All of that is your opinion, none of if factual. And your opinions, predictions and truthfulness is questionable, based upon your history on here, so what more do we have to say to one another? |
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Title: Re: I recognized several TT regulars below... Post by Serowbot on 08/21/18 at 10:04:12 Just taking the $1 trillion deficit... negates any gains in the economy. He's buying good economics with your debt burden.... ...and his tax cut for the rich means he won't be paying for it. All hail Trump... |
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Title: Re: I recognized several TT regulars below... Post by WebsterMark on 08/21/18 at 10:17:27 but let's be honest. If Hillary were president and she were doing the same thing, you hail it as a great strategy. We all know that. I have an idea, a proposal. Let's pick one topic start a new thread and implement a policy that personal attacks are completely out of bounds. The only purpose of this thread would be to get everyone's opinion on the topic why they have that opinion, where it's coming from, what in their background drives that opinion. TT, Sew, you pick the topic. Climate change gun control school shootings terrorism etc. start a new thread reference these comments and let's see if we don't get something different. |
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Title: Re: I recognized several TT regulars below... Post by T And T Garage on 08/21/18 at 10:22:54 112324353223340B27342D460 wrote:
Well mark - as far as for yourself - you've said enough. |
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Title: Re: I recognized several TT regulars below... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/21/18 at 10:28:41 's buying good economics with your debt burden.... If so, it's a helluva lot better return than I've ever seen. |
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Title: Re: I recognized several TT regulars below... Post by T And T Garage on 08/21/18 at 10:36:15 142621303726310E223128430 wrote:
Again, my intent is to shine light on hypocrisy. To use ray's little analogy - to put up a mirror. My opinion will never sway you - nor will yours sway me. The end game is this - there is no end game. However, maybe somewhere out there is a true independent looking for the truth. I hope they see this and deduce what's being said. Suffice it to say, trump will be on the wrong side of history. of course, that's only my opinion at the moment. |
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Title: Re: I recognized several TT regulars below... Post by T And T Garage on 08/21/18 at 10:39:56 7F6066617C7B4A7A4A72606C27150 wrote:
I've seen zero return. I'm curious - what have you seen? |
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Title: Re: I recognized several TT regulars below... Post by MnSpring on 08/21/18 at 10:40:28 586A6D7C7B6A7D426E7D640F0 wrote:
Yea Right. So you, I, Ray, and JOG, give a opinion on a subject. TT/EDS will just say we are, NATZI’s for NOT having exactly the same opinion as they have. And Bot, will post, drive by’s. However the entertainment factor is higher here, than the ‘Humor’ thread in the Cafe. Now that EDS is here, and TT is back, |
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Title: Re: I recognized several TT regulars below... Post by T And T Garage on 08/21/18 at 10:42:47 0D2E133032292E27400 wrote:
Yea Right. So you, I, Ray, and JOG, give a opinion on a subject. TT/EDS will just say we are, NATZI’s for NOT having exactly the same opinion as they have. Please show me where I've ever said that about you. And Bot, will post, drive by’s. He's free to do whatever he wants - as are you. However the entertainment factor is higher here, than the ‘Humor’ thread in the Cafe. Now that EDS is here, and TT is back, [/quote] I agree - it's a lot of fun revealing hypocrisy. |
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Title: Re: I recognized several TT regulars below... Post by Serowbot on 08/21/18 at 11:30:58 Insightful drive-by's... :-? |
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Title: Re: I recognized several TT regulars below... Post by WebsterMark on 08/21/18 at 12:45:08 I have an idea, a proposal. Let's pick one topic start a new thread and implement a policy that personal attacks are completely out of bounds. The only purpose of this thread would be to get everyone's opinion on the topic why they have that opinion, where it's coming from, what in their background drives that opinion. TT, Sew, you pick the topic. Climate change gun control school shootings terrorism etc. start a new thread reference these comments and let's see if we don't get something different. So this is a no? |
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Title: Re: I recognized several TT regulars below... Post by T And T Garage on 08/21/18 at 13:03:36 586A6D7C7B6A7D426E7D640F0 wrote:
Well, look at the response from mn, plus I see nothing from jog. What's more, when I proposed such a thing, you ridicule me for it. You did the same to Eau. Why should we now suddenly agree to it? Once again, the hypocrisy shows. However, as you may or may not have noticed mark, since I've been back I've called no one (on here) names nor launched any personal attacks. I'm already living up to your standards. If you don't like my delivery, that's on you, not me. So you can take this as a 'no' or 'yes'. Either way, I'm good. |
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Title: Re: I recognized several TT regulars below... Post by faffi on 08/21/18 at 14:06:57 434443434C250 wrote:
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I said you basically degraded your own original post by resorting to name-calling. You then brought up, at least the way I understood it, 3 names that you say do the same thing. Even if they do, that does not improve your own original message. But honestly, it is getting really old to read all these "idiot" remarks going back and forth, basically dividing us into two groups that show next to no respect for each other. Which is natural, given the language used. If we really want to learn something, we must first learn to respect the viewpoints from the opponents. That also require that the viewpoints are presented without name-calling and degrading remarks about people having different opinions. Will we get there? I strongly doubt it. But it is possible if we all spend some effort. |
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Title: Re: I recognized several TT regulars below... Post by WebsterMark on 08/21/18 at 14:20:21 If we really want to learn something, we must first learn to respect the viewpoints from the opponents. That also require that the viewpoints are presented without name-calling and degrading remarks about people having different opinions. Will we get there? I strongly doubt it. But it is possible if we all spend some effort. I agree. I made a suggestion. We should do it. What do we have to lose? |
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Title: Re: I recognized several TT regulars below... Post by MnSpring on 08/21/18 at 17:03:04 Here ya go, TT, Lost, Bot, Tclone, eds, BOT, Post ! Post a subject, “I believe, xxx, about, xxx thing, and this is why I believe, xxx, about, xxx thing” I firmly believe it will become a, ‘ultra-liberal’, “You ARE Stupid” to post a Conservative POV. Let’s see, Which ultra-Liberal, has the, ‘BALLS’, to Post something ? Then when the, Conservatives say their opinion otherwise, The Ultra-Liberals will NOT, go off on a ’Name Calling’ event. Which Ultra-LIBERAL, has the BALLS ? |
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Title: Re: I recognized several TT regulars below... Post by Serowbot on 08/21/18 at 17:10:35 My BALLS don't really get the question... :-? |
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Title: Re: I recognized several TT regulars below... Post by MnSpring on 08/21/18 at 17:16:59 1204130E16030E15610 wrote:
Truly unfortunate, you do not understand. |
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Title: Re: I recognized several TT regulars below... Post by T And T Garage on 08/21/18 at 17:32:56 785B6645475C5B52350 wrote:
I haven't since I've been back. |
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Title: Re: I recognized several TT regulars below... Post by faffi on 08/21/18 at 22:55:05 695B5C4D4A5B4C735F4C553E0 wrote:
Nothing, but there are things to be gained. |
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Title: Re: I recognized several TT regulars below... Post by faffi on 08/21/18 at 22:55:53 5D7E436062797E77100 wrote:
Great beginning to build a new climate ::) |
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