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Title: Eight Counts Post by T And T Garage on 08/21/18 at 13:55:48 Former trump campaign chief paul manafort found guilty of bank and tax fraud. http://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/21/paul-manafort-verdict.html It ain't sexy, but it's got teeth. I find it odd that the other 10 counts aren't decided. Oh well. That's one..... |
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Title: Re: Eight Counts Post by WebsterMark on 08/21/18 at 14:22:32 He's a thief and got caught. I'm sure he was offered a deal to give info on Trump and he either had nothing to tell or he refused. They prosecuted him. Story over. |
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Title: Re: Eight Counts Post by eau de sauvage on 08/21/18 at 15:23:40 The most interesting charge is the one (found guilty) where he obtained bank loans with the prospect of getting the bank governor a federal job. Manafort emailed Trump Jr about this who answered 'on it!'. Coincidentally Cohen has pleased guilty to eight charges as well. The Chinese like the number 8 as lucky. Trump is between a rock and a hard place now, even if he pardoned Manafort, that could end up flipping both houses come November. Not to mention that Cohen is about to implicate Trump directly as directing campaign finance violations. The basement is filling with swamp water! Interestingly once Cohen publicly identifies that the payments to the playboy model and also the pron star were for illicit sexual favours that then hangs out Melania as a chump. Much like Clinton did to his wife. Donald should hide the rolling pins. Also note that Trump wanted Kavanaugh as he's already indicated leniency on Presidential privilege, however his aggressive questioning of Clinton, makes for some amusing reading, especially the questions at the end... https://www.washingtonpost.com/apps/g/page/politics/read-the-memo-from-brett-kavanaugh-to-judge-starr/2322/?tid=a_inl_manual |
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Title: Re: Eight Counts Post by MnSpring on 08/21/18 at 15:34:52 66746063747270150 wrote:
What was that about, Bernie Sanders Wife. Getting BIG Bank loans, on LIES ? Hear about that, lately, ??????? |
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Title: Re: Eight Counts Post by eau de sauvage on 08/21/18 at 15:41:35 More on Cohen's plea... Asked if he wanted to enter a plea of guilty, Cohen said: “yes sir.” It was explained to Cohen that, if sentenced consecutively, he faced a total of up to 65 years and that any estimate of how much time he would get from his attorney might be inaccurate. Cohen said: “No estimate was given to me your Honor.” Cohen was asked to describe what he did with regard to each crime. On the first five counts, he said: “I evaded paying substantial taxes” on income he knew was omitted from his tax returns. On count six, he said that, in order to get approved for a home equity line of credit, he signed an application that omitted some of his liabilities. On count seven, the illegal corporate contribution, he said that, in the summer of 2016 – in coordination with and “at the request of” a candidate for federal office, in order “to keep an individual with information that would be harmful to the candidate and the campaign from publicly disclosing this information,” he arranged a payment through a media company of which he was the chief executive. “She received compensation of $150,000.” This was done “for the principle purpose of influencing the election”. On count eight – the illegal excessive campaign contribution – he said that, in coordination with the candidate, he “arranged to make a payment to a second individual with information that would be harmful to the candidate and the campaign”. He said he used a company under his control and paid $130,000. These funds “were later repaid to me by the candidate”. This was done “for the principle purpose of influencing the election”. Asked if he knew these actions were illegal and wrong when he took them, Cohen said: “Yes your Honor.” |
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Title: Re: Eight Counts Post by eau de sauvage on 08/21/18 at 15:43:59 [quote author=4B685576746F6861060 link=1534884948/0#3 date=1534890892 What was that about, Bernie Sanders Wife. Getting BIG Bank loans, on LIES ? Hear about that, lately, ??????? [/quote][/color] And your point is...what? |
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Title: Re: Eight Counts Post by MnSpring on 08/21/18 at 15:51:07 21332724333537520 wrote:
Well, a person, who is a, ’Subject’, and has, willingly, given up freedom. Apparently does not possess the capability of understanding. |
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Title: Re: Eight Counts Post by eau de sauvage on 08/21/18 at 15:56:29 @Mn, Still waiting for your elucidation of the point you are making by suggesting Bernie's wife told some lies to a bank. It just seems like some unrelated thought bubble which doesn't even make any sense. So I'll assume, seeing as you can't explain it that is exactly what it was. |
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Title: Re: Eight Counts Post by MnSpring on 08/21/18 at 16:05:08 5F4D595A4D4B492C0 wrote:
Why wast time, when you lack the ability to understand it ! Do/did, you get American TV shows? Did you get, ‘I Love Lucy’ ? If so, a person, often said: “…do I have to S’plain it to ya…” So, if you, can't figure it out, I ain't gone, 'S'plain', it to ya. |
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Title: Re: Eight Counts Post by eau de sauvage on 08/21/18 at 16:08:14 MnSpring, I think you missed your morning medication. So sad. |
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Title: Re: Eight Counts Post by MnSpring on 08/21/18 at 16:31:06 56445053444240250 wrote:
Yep, the, ‘opinion’, from a ’subject’, of a ’Monarchy’, Who has freely, Given Up Freedom, which pays 37% of income in Taxes. So the, ‘Monarchy', can live a a grandiose lifestyle. While another country pays to Protect their A$$. Sure is, ‘important’. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Eight Counts Post by eau de sauvage on 08/21/18 at 17:01:27 @Mn, you're as silly as an ass.hole full of smarties. Shouldn't you be at a rally or something? The responses of this crowd at the West Virginia rally suggest support for the president among his base is undimmed by the convictions today of Manafort or Cohen. So far we have had rousing chants of “Build that wall”, “Lock her up”, and “USA, USA”, as well as repeated boos whenever Trump mentions anyone he doesn’t like, and screams whenever Trump mentions one of his perceived achievements. |
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Title: Re: Eight Counts Post by MnSpring on 08/21/18 at 17:10:21 25372320373133560 wrote:
Were you holding a cup of tea, with your pinky finger in the air, when you said that ? |
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Title: Re: Eight Counts Post by eau de sauvage on 08/21/18 at 17:12:03 That's the forum bot corrector, because we don't want to offend snowflakes like yourself. But I fixed it for you. Anyway are you typing live from the Trump rally? |
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Title: Re: Eight Counts Post by T And T Garage on 08/21/18 at 17:17:57 597A4764667D7A73140 wrote:
What was that about, Bernie Sanders Wife. Getting BIG Bank loans, on LIES ? Hear about that, lately, ??????? [/quote] The reason you don't hear about it because she didn't break any laws. Do you have proof otherwise? What do you have to say about the original post? |
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Title: Re: Eight Counts Post by MnSpring on 08/21/18 at 17:24:09 7E606F6E637E65780A0 wrote:
Thanks, you just showed everybody, that "Lick the Right Butt", gets one,' everything they want'. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Eight Counts Post by T And T Garage on 08/21/18 at 17:31:42 0724193A3823242D4A0 wrote:
Thanks, you just showed everybody, that "Lick the Right Butt", gets one,' everything they want'. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D [/quote] Well mn, did she break any laws? Please, enlighten us. |
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Title: Re: Eight Counts Post by MnSpring on 08/21/18 at 17:49:36 203E31303D203B26540 wrote:
OK, so tomorrow morning, go to your local bank. tell them that you have XXX amount of pledges for donations, and you want to borrow money, for that amount. With NO Proof, of that amount. Gee, what do you think they will say ? GEE, ya think, that someone, 'Kissed someones BUTT', to get that loan done ? |
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Title: Re: Eight Counts Post by T And T Garage on 08/21/18 at 17:50:58 597A4764667D7A73140 wrote:
OK, so tomorrow morning, go to your local bank. tell them that you have XXX amount of pledges for donations, and you want to borrow money, for that amount. With NO Proof, of that amount. Gee, what do you think they will say ? GEE, ya think, that someone, 'Kissed someones BUTT', to get that loan done ?[/quote] So, you have no proof that she broke any laws? Thanks for confirming that mn. |
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Title: Re: Eight Counts Post by MnSpring on 08/21/18 at 17:56:54 So glad you have confirmed, the MORALITY, of the Conservatives. |
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Title: Re: Eight Counts Post by T And T Garage on 08/21/18 at 17:58:28 6D4E735052494E47200 wrote:
No, I've just confirmed that you have no proof that Bernie's wife broke any laws. The morality of the conservatives remains to be seen. |
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Title: Re: Eight Counts Post by MnSpring on 08/21/18 at 18:03:47 Hey, TT, Spew your, ’SPIN’, My life does NOT, revolve around you. Will let others determine, if, LYING, is, Moral or not ! I'm off for a while, so keep, 'spinning'. |
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Title: Re: Eight Counts Post by T And T Garage on 08/21/18 at 18:05:25 71526F4C4E55525B3C0 wrote:
Again, thanks for showing that Bernie's wife broke no laws. No spin - all truth. You sleep well. |
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Title: Re: Eight Counts Post by eau de sauvage on 08/21/18 at 18:25:33 8 counts for Manafort, 8 counts for Cohen. Sweet 16, they're both going to get screwed. |
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Title: Re: Eight Counts Post by Eegore on 08/21/18 at 20:15:05 Maybe we can bring up some things Hillary or Obama did wrong to try to derail the conversation and diffuse accountability of the topic presented. |
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Title: Re: Eight Counts Post by eau de sauvage on 08/22/18 at 00:17:21 Look => a squirrel. |
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Title: Re: Eight Counts Post by thumperclone on 08/22/18 at 04:13:43 What do you have to say about the original post? pin drop |
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Title: Re: Eight Counts Post by eau de sauvage on 08/22/18 at 05:04:21 @thumper, That the jury was undecided on 10 of the counts is a good thing because, as was pointed out on the lawfare blog, it means that the jury were being very persnickety and carefully considering their verdicts, which means that the 8 counts that they found Manafort to be guilty must have been absolutely clear cut such that whoever was holding out on the others had no qualms about the remaining 8. https://www.lawfareblog.com/what-michael-cohens-plea-and-paul-manaforts-conviction-mean-trump-and-mueller-investigation |
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Title: Re: Eight Counts Post by T And T Garage on 08/22/18 at 05:58:47 3F233E263B2E39282724252E4B0 wrote:
I don't think we'll hear from mn about the original post. His history shows that he will not engage in a conversation. |
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