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Title: Mollie Tibbetts Post by WebsterMark on 08/21/18 at 14:26:11 [i]Suspect in Death of Iowa Student Mollie Tibbetts Is Illegal Immigrant, Police Say[i] Why is building a wall, empowering ICE and throwing the book at companies who hire illegals even a debate? ...and do not say stats show illegals commit less crime blah blah blah.....doesn't matter. She's dead. Didn't have to be. |
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Title: Re: Mollie Tibbetts Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/21/18 at 14:36:32 Wow, another crime, another death, and lefties continue to protect them. And at the same time they want employers to treat employees as valuable while they promote bringing people in who compete for jobs. Why are lefties unable to understand how that works? |
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Title: Re: Mollie Tibbetts Post by T And T Garage on 08/21/18 at 14:39:39 It's a debate because it's not the only solution. There's no way to know if a wall would have stopped this murderer. Empowering ICE even more would make matters worse. They are draconian in their raids and the whole "zero tolerance" stance doesn't fit the bill. As to the companies that hire illegals - look no farther than the agriculture industries. They need that labor to operate. That's not me saying it - that's them. I agree, immigration policy has to change. But just putting up a wall will not help. IMHO |
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Title: Re: Mollie Tibbetts Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/21/18 at 14:53:43 But just putting up a wall will not help. A wall won't help Kinda like saying putting bars on your windows won't deter burglars, innitt? WHY won't a wall HELP? |
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Title: Re: Mollie Tibbetts Post by MnSpring on 08/21/18 at 15:00:33 627C73727F627964160 wrote:
And you keep thinking a, ‘Wall’ is a multi million dollar structure. A, ‘Wall’ can be a piece of twine string, held up with some rusty ’T’ posts, with a sign in Spanish. “Do Not Enter’. (One exception would be, in the auroras in Tucson, the sign would say: ‘Go to Bots house’) |
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Title: Re: Mollie Tibbetts Post by Serowbot on 08/21/18 at 15:05:33 ;D |
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Title: Re: Mollie Tibbetts Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/21/18 at 15:07:36 5B444245585F6E5E6E56444803310 wrote:
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Title: Re: Mollie Tibbetts Post by Serowbot on 08/21/18 at 15:13:22 7D6264637E7948784870626E25170 wrote:
[/quote] 'Cause there are these things called ladders... A $20 solution to a $20 billion dollar obstacle... :-? There's also these things called oceans... :-/ |
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Title: Re: Mollie Tibbetts Post by MnSpring on 08/21/18 at 15:19:18 485751564B4C7D4D7D45575B10220 wrote:
Gee, in Minn, their is a LAW, that a ‘gun’ shop, must have bars on the windows. After someone broke in a window. In Minn their is a LAW, that ‘gun’ shops must have, steel posts, (or like) all around a gun shop, so someone cannot. drive through them. After someone stole a car, ran it into a gun shop, left it their and ran away with guns. In Minn their is a Suggestion, that ‘gun’ shops, have a ‘man trap’, so they have to be, buzzed into the store. After two owners were Killed, with gang members running into the store with guns drawn and shooting. So, the Ultra Liberals have the logic, that when someone comes accost the boarder, then Kills, Rapes, Sets Fires, Steels, etc.etc.etc. NO reason to increase, Just Decrease, and let ALL in ! And of course, if you don’t believe that, you MUST BE, a Nazi ! 4F5056514C4B7A4A7A42505C17250 wrote:
Don’t ask TT that. He/She, has been asked questions, Multiple times before. And it’s, Deflection, LIES, SPIN, Blame someone else. Or, ‘Run Away and HIDE’ |
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Title: Re: Mollie Tibbetts Post by LostArtist on 08/21/18 at 15:36:58 this is a sad case... but... Illegal Immigration Does Not Increase Violent Crime, 4 Studies Show https://www.npr.org/2018/05/02/607652253/studies-say-illegal-immigration-does-not-increase-violent-crime "All of this comes as no surprise to Art Acevedo, the police chief in Houston, which has one of largest undocumented populations in the nation. The chief has been publicly critical of the immigration crackdown. "There's no wave of crime being committed by the immigrant community," Acevedo said. "As a matter of fact, a lot of the violent crime that we're dealing with is being committed by people that are born and raised right here in the United States."" and before you say it... this here is your response... ""It's actually immaterial whether they commit more crimes or not because they commit additional crimes," Dykes says. "They are crimes that would not be committed. There are American citizens who'd be alive today if [unauthorized immigrants] were not in this country."" all from that same article, go figure huh? NPR, balanced coverage, maybe not as crazy left wing liberal as you thought... to me, that argument is as valid as the whole "if it saves one person...." argument you hear a lot, and if you want to go down that rabbit hole, more power to you, but don't forget to sell your motorcycle first. |
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Title: Re: Mollie Tibbetts Post by WebsterMark on 08/21/18 at 16:06:44 2036213C24313C27530 wrote:
[/quote] 'Cause there are these things called ladders... A $20 solution to a $20 billion dollar obstacle... :-? There's also these things called oceans... :-/[/quote] So you take absolutely no steps to ensure your safety because any step you take could be easily breached? Of course not. We all take steps. And yes, a wall WOULD absolutely help with illegal immigration. You have to close your eyes to reality to suggest otherwise. Would it completely eliminate it? No, but does a fence around your house and lock on your door completely eliminate breaks ins? No, but we all still do that. |
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Title: Re: Mollie Tibbetts Post by T And T Garage on 08/21/18 at 17:22:58 203F393E23241525152D3F33784A0 wrote:
I didn't say it wouldn't help, I said it's not the ONLY answer. There's no way to say that a wall would have kept this murderer out. Immigration is far more complex than just building a wall. |
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Title: Re: Mollie Tibbetts Post by T And T Garage on 08/21/18 at 17:23:44 2F0C3112100B0C05620 wrote:
And you keep thinking a, ‘Wall’ is a multi million dollar structure. A, ‘Wall’ can be a piece of twine string, held up with some rusty ’T’ posts, with a sign in Spanish. “Do Not Enter’. (One exception would be, in the auroras in Tucson, the sign would say: ‘Go to Bots house’) [/quote] Why do you refuse to engage in an actual conversation? |
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Title: Re: Mollie Tibbetts Post by T And T Garage on 08/21/18 at 17:30:46 597A4764667D7A73140 wrote:
Gee, in Minn, their is a LAW, that a ‘gun’ shop, must have bars on the windows. After someone broke in a window. In Minn their is a LAW, that ‘gun’ shops must have, steel posts, (or like) all around a gun shop, so someone cannot. drive through them. After someone stole a car, ran it into a gun shop, left it their and ran away with guns. In Minn their is a Suggestion, that ‘gun’ shops, have a ‘man trap’, so they have to be, buzzed into the store. After two owners were Killed, with gang members running into the store with guns drawn and shooting. So, the Ultra Liberals have the logic, that when someone comes accost the boarder, then Kills, Rapes, Sets Fires, Steels, etc.etc.etc. NO reason to increase, Just Decrease, and let ALL in ! No, no one has said that. And of course, if you don’t believe that, you MUST BE, a Nazi ! 4F5056514C4B7A4A7A42505C17250 wrote:
Don’t ask TT that. He/She, has been asked questions, Multiple times before. I'm male. Did you not understand that from another post? And it’s, Deflection, LIES, SPIN, Blame someone else. Or, ‘Run Away and HIDE’ [/quote] |
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Title: Re: Mollie Tibbetts Post by MnSpring on 08/21/18 at 17:35:52 544A454449544F52200 wrote:
YEA, you DID SAY "... But just putting up a wall will not help….” And NOW, YOU SAY: “…I didn’t say it wouldn’t help,…” Again, where you, LYING then, or now. |
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Title: Re: Mollie Tibbetts Post by T And T Garage on 08/21/18 at 17:43:31 183B0625273C3B32550 wrote:
YEA, you DID SAY "... But just putting up a wall will not help….” And NOW, YOU SAY: “…I didn’t say it wouldn’t help,…” Again, where you, LYING then, or now. [/quote] Yeah mn JUST. You somehow missed that. I'm saying that JUST putting up a wall won't help. Please, look at my original response - first line: It's a debate because it's not the only solution. |
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Title: Re: Mollie Tibbetts Post by MnSpring on 08/21/18 at 17:51:37 AW SUM, SPIN LOLOLOLOLOLOLL |
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Title: Re: Mollie Tibbetts Post by T And T Garage on 08/21/18 at 17:52:28 41625F7C7E65626B0C0 wrote:
Truth hurts right mn? It's ok, I'm sure you'll be fine. |
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Title: Re: Mollie Tibbetts Post by Eegore on 08/21/18 at 20:24:51 There's no debate that a physical wall won't "help". The question is will the cost be reasonable for the benefits of that specific type of device. ICE and CBP in general do not support a physical wall, the very people that do the job, would rather have more modern means of completing their mission. But a ton of desk jockeys, and even more keyboard warriors continue to push for less efficient technologies like walls instead of allowing the workers themselves to make the decisions on what they need. For that matter more legal US citizens will kill their girlfriend or wives this week than illegal immigrants will in the next six months but how many people here will spend half the time they will arguing about The Wall sending a single donation to a women's shelter, or treatment facility? |
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Title: Re: Mollie Tibbetts Post by WebsterMark on 08/22/18 at 07:22:47 ICE and CBP in general do not support a physical wall, the very people that do the job, would rather have more modern means of completing their mission. But a ton of desk jockeys, and even more keyboard warriors continue to push for less efficient technologies like walls instead of allowing the workers themselves to make the decisions on what they need. Teachers often argue against assistants, police argue against concealed carry etc... I think sometimes people do this because they subconsciously feel this is an indictment on their job. For that matter more legal US citizens will kill their girlfriend or wives this week than illegal immigrants will in the next six months but how many people here will spend half the time they will arguing about The Wall sending a single donation to a women's shelter, or treatment facility? One doesn't take away from the other. We don't ignore the leaky roof because the basement is leaking too. Both need to be addressed. And the bottom line is someone here illegally brutally murdered a young girl. One side has been arguing stepped up enforcement against illegal aliens. The other side, purely for political reasons in my view, has been arguing against stepped up enforcement. In my mind, it's a pretty clear and easy choice. |
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Title: Re: Mollie Tibbetts Post by Serowbot on 08/22/18 at 08:18:33 0D3F38292E3F28173B28315A0 wrote:
Trump has race baited his way to the White House... You know he has... Muslim ban,... the wall,... good people on both sides,... MS13,... take a knee... immigrants from Haiti “all have AIDS”,... sh!thole African country... birtherism... Puerto Ricans are “politically motivated ingrates.”... retweeting white nationalist tweets,... Pocahontas,... Miss Housekeeping,... “Oh, look at my African-American over here. Look at him.” |
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Title: Re: Mollie Tibbetts Post by WebsterMark on 08/22/18 at 09:25:52 None of that is racist. Do you even know what racist means? I am in favor of all those things and I am not racist. None of us know each other in the real world so it's easy to toss charges back and forth, I've done my share. I am not racist and I support boarder control. Let's look at the other stuff. did Trump say all immigrants from Haiti have aids? All? Really? And there are a lot of sh!thole countries in Africa. Let's start dealing in reality. |
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Title: Re: Mollie Tibbetts Post by Eegore on 08/22/18 at 09:54:50 The point is when dealing with international relations as "The Leader of the Free World" there is large scale implications in how other countries leaders and cultures perceive your actions and statements. Nobody cares if you or I are racist, think countries are sh!tholes or think everyone in the world besides us have AIDS, but the President is completely different, his statements result in different actions globally. Reality or not what he says has implications. |
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Title: Re: Mollie Tibbetts Post by WebsterMark on 08/22/18 at 09:58:23 True. And Trump is like no other before him. No one other than him would have gotten elected, in part because he doesn't care what the world thinks. |
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Title: Re: Mollie Tibbetts Post by WebsterMark on 08/22/18 at 10:00:36 But back to reality. Those places really are sh!tholes. MS13 is bad. Illegal immigration is bad. There were rapist and killers who crosses into the US from Mexico. |
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Title: Re: Mollie Tibbetts Post by T And T Garage on 08/22/18 at 10:05:56 6F5D5A4B4C5D4A75594A53380 wrote:
How can you honestly say that? "No one other than him"? That's not even close to a true statement. Bernie polled higher. Further, it's merely speculation. Also, don't forget, he lost the popular vote by nearly 3 million and he won the electoral vote by very slim margins. |
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Title: Re: Mollie Tibbetts Post by T And T Garage on 08/22/18 at 10:16:26 093B3C2D2A3B2C133F2C355E0 wrote:
And there are rapists and murderers already living here too. The point about trump and his idiotic statements is that he doesn't think before he speaks. He has no check valve. You may say "yeah, that's a good thing!" but you'd be wrong. Diplomacy is not about being unabashed or thoughtless. It's about subtlety and nuance. Mostly, it's about respect. I do not see respect coming from trump. He pays no respect to anyone or anything. He's name-called and mocked his way to where he is today. He's never worked for, or sacrificed a single thing for what he's got - but he'd tell you different. He's all show, and no go. That's the reality. |
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Title: Re: Mollie Tibbetts Post by WebsterMark on 08/22/18 at 10:35:36 How can you honestly say that? "No one other than him"? That's not even close to a true statement. Bernie polled higher. My point was no one other than Trump could have said the things he did and get elected. Bernie would have backtracked and looked weak. Trump never did. Look at Hilary after her deplorable comment or Romney after his 47%. Imagine the difference if Romney had stood up and said hell yes 47% don't pay taxes and its high time we do something about it. Or if Hilary had said, yes, they're deplorable. Trump calls places sh!tholes, because they are, and stood by it and almost all Americans know it to be true. You do too. Take an vacation in Haiti lately? No, of course not. You don't live in those sh!thole neighborhoods in Chicago where someone will get killed tonight either. I certainly don't live in those sh!thole places in St Louis. Also, don't forget, he lost the popular vote by nearly 3 million and he won the electoral vote by very slim margins. None of that matters. There's only one final score. You can out hit the other team by 10-1 but if they score 1 and you don't, you lose. That's the equivalent of bringing up the popular vote, it just sounds like a sore loser complaining about the umpire or something. |
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Title: Re: Mollie Tibbetts Post by WebsterMark on 08/22/18 at 10:37:38 But back to reality. Those places really are sh!tholes. Are they? You mean to say that those entire areas are? All the people are less than desirable? All of them? you and everyone knows the real answer to that. Diplomacy is not about being unabashed or thoughtless. It's about subtlety and nuance. Mostly, it's about respect. Maybe, maybe not. I'm not sure. |
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Title: Re: Mollie Tibbetts Post by T And T Garage on 08/22/18 at 11:05:20 7E4C4B5A5D4C5B64485B42290 wrote:
I'm not saying he didn't win fair and square - he did. But it seems that many of his supporters don't realize is that it wasn't a "landslide". It was a nailbiter. He barely won. The way some of those supporters talk about it, you'd have thought hillary got zero votes. This isn't some mandate that he's got. There isn't much political capital. Chances are, the republicans are going to lose the House. If things keep happening they way they are with cohen and the like, they may also lose the Senate. If that happens, there will be an impeachment and more than likely, trump will be ousted. But that remains to be seen. |
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Title: Re: Mollie Tibbetts Post by WebsterMark on 08/22/18 at 11:39:29 How do you figure? Bernie, if nothing else, has been consistent on his views for decades. No, he lost more to the DNC than anything. He made a poor decision that he thought was the only one. Sadly, it was. You're missing my point. If he had gotten the nomination, he would have during the course of a debate or otherwise, said something that highlighted his socialistic nature and it would have come off bad. Every candidate does that. My point is Trump never really backed away from his comments. He stuck with them. Who knows what would have happened if Bernie hadn't been screwed by the DNC. Would he have won? The question is would those few hundred thousand in those 5 key states have voted for him? I don't think so , but who knows. You can't say that "almost all Americans do". That's conjecture at best. There's no proof to back that statement up. In fact, approval polls say just the opposite. Absolutely I can. Have you ever thought about taking a vacation in Haiti? Do you live in those neighborhoods in Chicago I'm talking about? That's the best poll there is. Don't you see? By you, and others like you, calling entire cities or countries sh!tholes, you do a disservice to the issues. It's name-calling, that's all. It's textbook bigotry. It's not bigotry, it's reality, it's the truth. We've been dancing around the issue for so long, we can't call a spade a spade. Haiti is a sh!thole. What good does it do to pretend it's not? Maybe their only chance to escape their fate is by acknowledging where they are. |
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Title: Re: Mollie Tibbetts Post by T And T Garage on 08/22/18 at 12:00:58 506265747362754A66756C070 wrote:
Again, you've seem to have missed the point. With a statement like that, you basically give up on whatever you label. Be it Haiti, a city a race, whatever. |
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Title: Re: Mollie Tibbetts Post by WebsterMark on 08/22/18 at 12:12:18 Have you ever thought about taking a vacation in Haiti? No. I'm not a tropical destination kind of guy. But that's just me, not everyone else. Aw... come on man! No vacations in Haiti. If you were a tropical destination kind of guy, you'd go anywhere BUT Haiti. Let's deal in reality. Do you live in those neighborhoods in Chicago I'm talking about? I don't now, but I've lived in several neighborhoods in Chicago. From Logan Square to the tip of East Garfield to Wrigleyville. I can say that there is good and bad in all of them. Of course there's good and bad everywhere, but there are degrees of bad. And you don't live where someone's gonna get killed tonight FOR SURE. You know where in Chicago to avoid just like I know where in St Louis to avoid and since I travel all the time, I know dozens of places to avoid. Maybe instead of pretending its about guns or work programs or recovery centers and start pretending it's about something else might be the way to go. What good does it do to pretend it's not? Maybe their only chance to escape their fate is by acknowledging where they are. Again, you've seem to have missed the point. With a statement like that, you basically give up on whatever you label. Be it Haiti, a city a race, whatever. I'm not going to pretend Haiti is ok, it's not. I'm not going to pretend black on black murder is ok, it's not. I'm not going to pretend, as Rahm said, there's not a moral crisis going on in minority communities. There is. |
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Title: Re: Mollie Tibbetts Post by T And T Garage on 08/22/18 at 12:24:29 566463727564734C60736A010 wrote:
Whose morals? What morals? Talk is cheap - especially in the case of rham. I've seen firsthand the actions he's taken prior to his fear of losing the mayoral race. I didn't vote for his second term for those very reasons. His sudden grasp of morality is too little, too late. Is there a crisis of morality on the south and near-west sides? Of course. but it goes far deeper than simple faith. Overcoming inequality, gaining opportunity, getting respect, tangible equality, being given consideration and pretty much just listening to the neighborhoods is what's needed most. Yes, a strong family unit is high on the list, but it's not the only item on that list and can't be done with most of the list above. |
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Title: Re: Mollie Tibbetts Post by WebsterMark on 08/23/18 at 05:44:02 My argument against the line of thinking that poverty and inequality are at the heart of this, involve comparing crime rates in the poorest areas of Missouri. By far the worst poverty in Missouri is located in the southern most countries, the Ozarks on the border with Arkansas. Poverty is high, gun ownership is high, they are marginalized as Rednecks, Hillbillies etc In fact it's acceptable to call them dumb, stupid, inbreds, whatever you want. There's no price to be paid for disparaging them anyway you want. However, violent crime rates are nothing when compared to inner cites. Which leads to a couple possible reasons. 1) because they are not in proximity to one another all the time as you find in crowded city neighborhoods, that either has a calming influence or the opportunity for crime doesn't appear as often. 2) the culture of inner city poor neighborhoods accept s crime as a way of life |
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Title: Re: Mollie Tibbetts Post by T And T Garage on 08/23/18 at 11:54:04 In a new twist: In court records released Wednesday, Rivera's lawyer declared that "the Government knows Cristhian has legal status" and wrote that "Cristhian has complied with his documented status since arriving in the U.S.A. as a minor." So, not illegal... but yes, still a murderer. |
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Title: Re: Mollie Tibbetts Post by Serowbot on 08/23/18 at 13:13:56 ...and the family is saying,.. quit using their murdered daughter as a political football... Meanwhile,... Trump is trying for field goal... ::) |
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Title: Re: Mollie Tibbetts Post by T And T Garage on 08/23/18 at 13:37:32 5A4C5B465E4B465D290 wrote:
A-Yep.... |
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Title: Re: Mollie Tibbetts Post by eau de sauvage on 08/23/18 at 22:11:41 Illegal alien kills jogger, what is the point of this story. It's just another murder in a country rife with violence. Cue the white supremacists, isn't this proof that a big beautiful wall is needed? Yet a rich white American shoots 500 people, at a concert and it's like, 'meh'. |
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Title: Re: Mollie Tibbetts Post by eau de sauvage on 08/23/18 at 22:18:08 @WebMark, My argument against the line of thinking that poverty and inequality are at the heart of this, involve comparing crime rates in the poorest areas of Missouri. There is a proven correlation between poverty and crime and making abortion difficult or illegal. And that is because when an unwanted. baby is forced upon a mother it will more likely be resented and consequently be more inclined to the lack of nurture that leads to criminality. Whereas if the mother was able to abort and then later choose to have a child when she was ready this child would be more likely to receive the attention that leads to a better individual. This is an often overlooked aspect of abortion rights. |
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Title: Re: Mollie Tibbetts Post by WebsterMark on 08/24/18 at 04:51:25 Prove it. |
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Title: Re: Mollie Tibbetts Post by faffi on 08/24/18 at 05:29:40 What would you consider to be a valid proof? Moms who made an abortion and later in life decided to become a mom and are happy with both decisions? "I had an abortion about 6 years ago. The man who got me pregnant was an ex who I was trying to cut from my life because he was turning more abusive as the days went on. I mentioned one day that I was late, and was nauseous and he went out and bought a pregnancy test and made me take it. It was positive but the second I saw the positive, I knew what I had to do. I scheduled my appointment and two weeks later, went in for my appt. they administered the abortion pills and sent me home. I was 6 weeks pregnant and knew I had made the right decision for ME. having his baby would bring a terrible life for me and the child and I knew that. I have never looked back, never regretted it. I am now married to a wonderful man and we are expecting our first in June and we are so excited. I don't feel like a terrible person, or a heartless person. It was a decision I made and one that I accepted from day one." Google will help you if you want to stack them up. Here is one additional story for your enjoyment, though https://thoughtcatalog.com/brighid-tomasik/2013/07/im-glad-that-i-had-an-abortion/ |
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Title: Re: Mollie Tibbetts Post by eau de sauvage on 08/24/18 at 06:52:31 I wouldn't call it absolutely 'proved' but it's been studied ... http://pricetheory.uchicago.edu/levitt/Papers/DonohueLevittTheImpactOfLegalized2001.pdf |
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Title: Re: Mollie Tibbetts Post by T And T Garage on 09/02/18 at 20:17:40 Mollie's father: "Sadly, others have ignored our request. They have instead chosen to callously distort and corrupt Mollie’s tragic death to advance a cause she vehemently opposed. I encourage the debate on immigration; there is great merit in its reasonable outcome. But do not appropriate Mollie’s soul in advancing views she believed were profoundly racist. The act grievously extends the crime that stole Mollie from our family and is, to quote Donald Trump Jr., “heartless" and "despicable.” http://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/mollie-tibbetts-apos-father-wrote-180400606.html |
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Title: Re: Mollie Tibbetts Post by WebsterMark on 09/04/18 at 06:18:20 Kate Steinle's father said the same thing. In 1991, two sisters, who were active in anti-racism causes (whatever that means) who were raped and thrown to their deaths off the Chain of Rocks Bridge over the Mississippi River just north of St Louis. Their family didn't want their names used either because the killers were black. In all cases, the families felt the victims wouldn't want their 'causes' used that way. I get that. Doesn't change the fact that with better immigration enforcement, a united front from a political point of view, a Wall, jail time for executives who knowingly hire illegals...... this woman Kate and this woman Mollie would likely still be alive. So sure, leave their names out of the debate, but keep the debate. As her father said, 'encourage the debate on immigration' |
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Title: Re: Mollie Tibbetts Post by T And T Garage on 09/04/18 at 07:37:34 695B5C4D4A5B4C735F4C553E0 wrote:
Yes, encourage the debate. Not just build a wall and slap a label of "those people" on all immigrants. |
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Title: Re: Mollie Tibbetts Post by MnSpring on 09/04/18 at 08:59:15 3B252A2B263B203D4F0 wrote:
So now, Building a wall is OK with you ? So, people, just ‘Sneaking’ accost the border, whether that Border is S/N/E/W. Is now, NOT, alright with you ? So now you Believe in proper vetting of people that come into this Country ? Missed it, when did you change your mind ? |
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Title: Re: Mollie Tibbetts Post by T And T Garage on 09/04/18 at 09:03:30 12310C2F2D3631385F0 wrote:
So now, Building a wall is OK with you ? No. How do you get that from what I post? You seem to lack the basic skills to converse. Context mn. Context. Please try and learn what that means. So, people, just ‘Sneaking’ accost the border, whether that Border is S/N/E/W. Is now, NOT, alright with you ? No, I was never in favor of illegals. So now you Believe in proper vetting of people that come into this Country ? I always have. Missed it, when did you change your mind ? I never did. [/quote] |
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Title: Re: Mollie Tibbetts Post by faffi on 09/04/18 at 14:29:18 1D2F28393E2F38072B38214A0 wrote:
A lot of Indians would still be alive if better immigration control had been in place before year 1500. |
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