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Message started by eau de sauvage on 08/21/18 at 18:17:54

Title: Trump officially implicated in criminal conspiracy
Post by eau de sauvage on 08/21/18 at 18:17:54

The Swamp Chronicles... https://www.newyorker.com/news-desk/swamp-chronicles/the-president-has-been-implicated-in-a-criminal-conspiracy

The President of the United States is now, formally, implicated in a criminal conspiracy to mislead the American public in order to influence an election. Were he not President, Donald Trump, himself, would almost certainly be facing charges. This news came in what must be considered the most damaging single hour of a deeply troubled Presidency.

Looks like Trump is up sh!t creek, without a paddle.

Title: Re: Trump officially implicated in criminal conspi
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/21/18 at 21:33:58

FINALLY!!
The silver bullet!
This is the ONE!
No..
Just because they have their stool pigeon in a bind and force him to say something doesn't make the crap stick.

Title: Re: Trump officially implicated in criminal conspi
Post by eau de sauvage on 08/21/18 at 23:18:11

@JoG, I see that you're totally pwned by The Donald. Must be from sucking on the glass teat, known as FauxNews.

Meanwhile it's mysteriously quiet on The Donald's twit feed.

Title: Re: Trump officially implicated in criminal conspi
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/22/18 at 01:26:29

I get tired of saying it
PLEASE PAY ATTENTION
I DON'T WATCH T.V. NEWS.

Title: Re: Trump officially implicated in criminal conspi
Post by eau de sauvage on 08/22/18 at 01:30:35


554A4C4B5651605060584A460D3F0 wrote:
I get tired of saying it
PLEASE PAY ATTENTION
I DON'T WATCH T.V. NEWS.



No need to shout. Yes I'm aware that you are an afficionado of Neon Nettle as you have already linked to. They make Faux News look like Mother Theresa's Convent...

https://www.snopes.com/tag/neon-nettle/

Title: Re: Trump officially implicated in criminal conspi
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/22/18 at 01:33:25

Find another time I linked to them.
I don't think I ever heard of them before.
You can pretend you know all about me.

Title: Re: Trump officially implicated in criminal conspi
Post by eau de sauvage on 08/22/18 at 18:18:24


6A757374696E5F6F5F67757932000 wrote:
Find another time I linked to them.
I don't think I ever heard of them before.
You can pretend you know all about me.



You've completely not understood. By linking to them even if this was the only time, it doesn't matter because it shows where you get your opinions from, it shows the bat sh!t crazy pants sites you do not mind reading. What is worse is that you don't even seem to see a problem linking to it as if everyone here is as gullible as you.

Title: Re: Trump officially implicated in criminal conspi
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/22/18 at 23:27:31

I TOTALLY understand.
You're an idiot.

Title: Re: Trump officially implicated in criminal conspi
Post by eau de sauvage on 08/23/18 at 00:01:37


796B7F7C6B6D6F0A0 wrote:
[quote author=7B646265787F4E7E4E76646823110 link=1534900674/0#7 date=1535005651]I TOTALLY understand.
You're an idiot.



I agree I must be an idiot the proof of my idiocy is the very fact that I bother engaging with a gullible imbecile like yourself.

Now that we have that out of the way, what about Cohen implicating Trump in a criminal conspiracy.

Title: Re: Trump officially implicated in criminal conspi
Post by faffi on 08/23/18 at 00:07:24

Lads, why all these compliments? As far as I can remember, there is only one adult on this forum, and that i Eegore. And I do not mean for his opinions, which of course are debatable as any others, but for the ability to consistently keep a civil tone.

The rest of us range from somewhat gown-up to barely out of diapers.

Title: Re: Trump officially implicated in criminal conspi
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/23/18 at 00:07:56

Go look for it.
The explanation is too long and I don't want to bother.

Title: Re: Trump officially implicated in criminal conspi
Post by eau de sauvage on 08/23/18 at 02:41:00

why all these compliments?


That's crystal clear isn't it. JoG and his matey mates, come into threads with the sole purpose to not answer the premise and then drag the thread out to deep water, which is exactly the tactics of their hero, Donald, whose modus operandi is LooK! => an illegal squirrel just raped Mighty Mouse.


Title: Re: Trump officially implicated in criminal conspi
Post by faffi on 08/23/18 at 03:26:31

It is not crystal clear to me. I believe it is very possible to have a heated debate without personal attacks or belittling the other party. Even when a point of view collides totally with our own conception of reality, that doesn't mean that other views are invalid or at least deserve meaningful answers. Or ignorance, if one thinks the other person's opinion is unworthy of attention. The way most arguments goes on this forum is similar to the way Trump communicate IMO. That goes for his supporters as well as his opponents. I realize some will take that as a compliment, but in my book it is not. YMMV.


NOTE: I have myself, over the years, been guilty many times of uncalled for sarcasm or derogatory remarks against people I felt were completely off the rafter, but that doesn't make it right. In fact, it only make me a lesser person.

Title: Re: Trump officially implicated in criminal conspi
Post by eau de sauvage on 08/23/18 at 04:07:22

@Faffi

I believe it is very possible to have a heated debate without personal attacks or belittling the other party.

Of course it's f.ucking possible. But it takes two to tango monsieur faffi, meaning that if JoG and his mates just come into threads and disrupt them you cannot force them to engage. Geddit?

Naturally you have been guilty of flaming, who hasn't, in fact your sucking up to eegore, is part of the ruse, intended or not. Check out the 'flame warriors', you'll surely find yourself in one of them.

http://www.flamewarriorsguide.com

Title: Re: Trump officially implicated in criminal conspi
Post by faffi on 08/23/18 at 07:07:33

I think you hold yourself in too high an esteem as I consider your way of communicating to be on par with the ones you listed.

And thank you for pointing out again what I had just mentioned, that I am guilty of flaming. Pointing out that one member only, in my experience, is able to keep things civil is not the same thing as sucking up, just in case you needed that explained.

Title: Re: Trump officially implicated in criminal conspi
Post by Serowbot on 08/23/18 at 07:54:41

Idiot...    Imbecile...
Guys,... this is the TALL Table...
Strive to be taller, please...

Serow

Title: Re: Trump officially implicated in criminal conspi
Post by eau de sauvage on 08/23/18 at 20:09:45

@faffi,

Pointing out that one member only, in my experience except he isn't, he's just cleverer about his flaming. Not that there's anything wrong with that because this particular forum is set up for flaming.

I've adopted the attitude I have because the moment I stepped into this cesspit, I was my normal respectful self but I just got a pile of manure for my troubles. Then I realised that this is because of how it has been. I attempted to suggest some agreed rules that we all would accept but there were *howls* of protest from all those like Mn, JoG, WM and the like. They like it like that, because that's the only way to win an argument that is impossible to win. Just abuse.

So abuse is what has been deemed appropriate on this forum. I may make a few choice ad hominem comments but I'll still wrap it up with some reasoned analysis.

For my money if the forum mods or the owner do not want to run the forum properly, that is set the rules and ban members who won't abide by them then the result is exactly what we get.

Title: Re: Trump officially implicated in criminal conspi
Post by faffi on 08/23/18 at 23:30:00

So what about each side challenge each other into making the discussions better and more polite? Then we could see whether it is the Dems or Reps that are able to behave civilized. Or perhaps both. But from what I have seen so far, I sadly expect it will be none.

Still, IMO, the forum would gain if we managed to discuss the case instead of getting personal.

BTW, the way the discussions are going, one would expect the participants to be primarily white working class middle-aged males. The angry and frustrated part of the population, apparently.

Title: Re: Trump officially implicated in criminal conspi
Post by eau de sauvage on 08/24/18 at 02:27:17

@Faffi

So what about each side challenge each other into making the discussions better and more polite?



Tried it, JoG and friends are not interested, if you can negotiate them to join the party then I'm all in, let me know when you've got their agreement.


Still, IMO, the forum would gain if we managed to discuss the case instead of getting personal.


I couldn't agree more, I've also tried that, JoG and friends were not interested, if you can manage to get them to see the benefit, then once again, I'm all in.

You see Faffi, the problem is that they are supporting a reprehensible and morally bankrupt administration, so rational polite discourse is not going to work for them. This is why the GOP, need raving lunatics like Hannity, Guiliani, and Alan Jones as well as websites like neon nettle to push their case.

Title: Re: Trump officially implicated in criminal conspi
Post by WebsterMark on 08/24/18 at 04:46:19

the problem is that they are supporting a reprehensible and morally bankrupt administration, so rational polite discourse is not going to work for them. This is why the GOP, need raving lunatics like Hannity, Guiliani, and Alan Jones as well as websites like neon nettle to push their case.

Gee, I can't imagine why Eau gets attacked......hmmmmm. Big mystery.

Title: Re: Trump officially implicated in criminal conspi
Post by WebsterMark on 08/24/18 at 04:49:54

white working class middle-aged males. The angry and frustrated part of the population, apparently.

I get subdividing groups into boxes. I do that, everyone does that. Probably an evolutionary benefit, helps us quickly recognize friend or foe.

But why is it when that particular group takes a stand, it's view as a negative thing but when virtually every other group takes a stand, its viewed as progress?

Title: Re: Trump officially implicated in criminal conspi
Post by faffi on 08/24/18 at 05:14:00


083A3D2C2B3A2D123E2D345F0 wrote:
But why is it when that particular group takes a stand, it's view as a negative thing but when virtually every other group takes a stand, its viewed as progress?





Because it is not taking a stand, it is the way they (we/us?) make these standpoints. Lots of aggression and hatred and foul words tend to saturate the communication.

It may just be me, but I find there is a difference between let's say:

A) Those friggen morons that allowed the ¤#&#& "someone" into our country deserve a bloody bullet between their eyes and a cactus shoved up their dirty arses! Their inane actions put everyone at risk, fer fekks sake! I hate bureaucrats, they should all be tortured to death!!

and

B) I am heavily against "someone" being allowed to enter our country. What could be the reason behind it? Do they not realize the risks involved? It seems like bureaucrats lack a connection to the real world, and if something horrible happens, I believe the bureaucrats should be trialed and convicted.

Title: Re: Trump officially implicated in criminal conspi
Post by eau de sauvage on 08/24/18 at 06:56:33


6D5F58494E5F48775B48513A0 wrote:
the problem is that they are supporting a reprehensible and morally bankrupt administration, so rational polite discourse is not going to work for them. This is why the GOP, need raving lunatics like Hannity, Guiliani, and Alan Jones as well as websites like neon nettle to push their case.
Gee, I can't imagine why Eau gets attacked......hmmmmm. Big mystery.



You obviously are unable to appreciate the irony of your post seeing as you've just demonstrated to faffi the very point I was making!

Title: Re: Trump officially implicated in criminal conspi
Post by Serowbot on 08/24/18 at 09:06:56

So,.. if I were a proper Moderator, Eegore would be in here talking to himself...  ;D

Complainers take note... :-?

Serow


Title: Re: Trump officially implicated in criminal conspi
Post by faffi on 08/24/18 at 12:08:42


2A3C2B362E3B362D590 wrote:
So,.. if I were a proper Moderator, Eegore would be in here talking to himself...  ;D






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