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Title: Stretch.... Post by raydawg on 08/30/18 at 14:21:00 Last Thursday, we asked how long it would take before Lanny Davis again changed his story about what his client, Michael Cohen, knows about President Trump. It turned out to be four days. Meanwhile, CNN is standing by a story that relied in part on claims that Davis now says he never should’ve made. It all started with last month’s bombshell CNN report that Cohen, Trump’s former personal attorney, was claiming his then-boss knew in advance of the 2016 Trump Tower meeting between campaign officials and a Russian operative. The CNN story said outright that Davis had declined comment, implying that he wasn’t a source — even though Davis now says he was, and CNN admits it. That same night, Davis confirmed the story anonymously to this newspaper and to The Washington Post. Last week, however, Davis publicly stated that Cohen knew no such thing, and had never said otherwise. He then ’fessed up to his anonymous claims to the New York and Washington papers, while still insisting he wasn’t a source for the CNN report. It was only this week that he admitted he actually was a CNN source. His excuse to Buzzfeed: He “made a mistake” and “unintentionally misspoke.” (Three times?) CNN is standing by the story because it says it has at least one other source for it, and because it suspects Davis changed his story only because Cohen could face perjury charges, since he testified under oath to a Senate committee that he had no advance knowledge of the Trump Tower sitdown. The network offers no justification for its own deception of reporting that Davis hadn’t commented when he actually had, though anonymously. Davis, meanwhile, has also retracted at least two other claims about what Cohen “knows” about Trump. Maybe all those years as a Clinton spokesman just leave him unable to tell the truth, but what’s CNN’s excuse. Ya gotta just LOVE CNN’s reasoning.... Oh, Lanny changed his story because he is worried that it will shiw Cohen perjuried himself in previous testimony.... Oh yeah, sure, they care about this guy first.... Before sticking a knife in Trump, no matter what, or who, it might hurt. Liars..... The hate and rage has blinded them, they only have themselves to blame, not calling a person Cheeto or orange, as cause. |
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Title: Re: Stretch.... Post by T And T Garage on 08/30/18 at 14:30:24 This is just another distraction. All the king's horses and all the king's men, will never get trumpty-dumpty back together again. Regardless of CNN, MSNBC, Google or any other target of our orange-in-chief - he's made his own bed. His past is coming to get him. Karma is a vengeful b!tch. She's out to get him, and there's nothing he can do. Stay tuned sports fans!!! |
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Title: Re: Stretch.... Post by WebsterMark on 08/30/18 at 16:54:12 They lied (fake news) again and got caught. Not new(s) to either. |
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Title: Re: Stretch.... Post by T And T Garage on 08/30/18 at 16:56:29 467473626574635C70637A110 wrote:
No -"they" didn't lie. A source lied. Huge difference. Besides the fact that there is another source. The plot thickens! |
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Title: Re: Stretch.... Post by WebsterMark on 08/30/18 at 17:43:03 No. Keep up on current events. They got caught, refused to admit it even after Davis told them. They spent the better part of two days looking for a way out of this mess but couldn't gind one so they are waving the white flag now. There is no other source and if you believe them the. I suggest you get news from Dan Rather or maybe Brian Williams. Their TDS blinded them. |
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Title: Re: Stretch.... Post by raydawg on 08/30/18 at 18:22:28 774542535445526D41524B200 wrote:
Web, too many folks put their money on Hillary, Trump was a sure loser, and they were all maneuvering as such. He is driving them crazy.... They are becoming exactly what they say they are against. |
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Title: Re: Stretch.... Post by T And T Garage on 08/30/18 at 19:57:41 3A29312C293F2F480 wrote:
Web, too many folks put their money on Hillary, Trump was a sure loser, and they were all maneuvering as such. He is driving them crazy.... They are becoming exactly what they say they are against. [/quote] Yeah, keep bringing up hillary ray. That's working out great. I'm sooooo sure that trump is innocent of alllllll wrongdoing. <<<< sarcasm You conservatives are a hoot! (oh wait, you said were a democrat... that's right, my mistake) |
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Title: Re: Stretch.... Post by T And T Garage on 08/30/18 at 19:59:09 350700111607102F031009620 wrote:
Until it's proved otherwise, I believe that there's another source. Sorry jog, that's the way life is. |
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Title: Re: Stretch.... Post by raydawg on 08/30/18 at 22:08:33 Yeah Jog :-? Confusion, befuddlement, disillusioned, forgetfulness, signs of the onset. |
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Title: Re: Stretch.... Post by WebsterMark on 08/31/18 at 04:49:49 Until it's proved otherwise, I believe that there's another source. Exactly my point. You sound like Peter Pan characters; "I do believe Trump's evil, I do believe Trump's evil......" TDS. Derangement Syndrome......... You've made a "truth" in your head and now your cramming it with what amouts to random words to justify your "belief ". This is why I say TDS is like a 9/11 Conspiracy Theorist. You've got a narrative already etched in stone and now you're going backwards to prove it. That's what 9/11 people did. They didn't see facts that drove the conspiracy, they saw a conspiracy and searched for "facts". You told me a couple days ago Trump Jr lied and when we discussed it, the truth was he did not tell a reporter the reason for a confidential meeting. I guarantee you've done the exact same thing at work. You have confidential info but when asked by someone who you don't want to know the i fo, you tell them half the story. Are you lying? No, of course not. Facts drive the narrative, not the other way around. It's what you constantly argue about Benghazi, emails, servers, Hilary's health, etc.... Do the same with Trump. |
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Title: Re: Stretch.... Post by T And T Garage on 08/31/18 at 05:15:02 122027363120370824372E450 wrote:
In the case of hillary - it's all done. Nothing was found. In the case of trump - it's got a long way to go and there have been over 20 indictments. There's lots being found. |
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Title: Re: Stretch.... Post by WebsterMark on 08/31/18 at 05:40:42 I guarantee you've done the exact same thing at work. You have confidential info but when asked by someone who you don't want to know the i fo, you tell them half the story. Are you lying? No, of course not. mark - you have no idea what I do or where I work. Please don't make assumptions about things you have no clue about. Everyone, in virtually any capacity, does this. I don't care if you work in the mailroom or if you're a VP. This happens all the time. And it should happen all the time. |
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Title: Re: Stretch.... Post by WebsterMark on 08/31/18 at 05:44:13 Go ahead and make fun I'm not making fun, I was using Peter Pan to make a point. You told me a couple days ago Trump Jr lied and when we discussed it, the truth was he did not tell a reporter the reason for a confidential meeting. He lied about the REASON for the meeting He (nor any of us) are under any obligation, legal or otherwise, to disclose what the topic of any meeting is about. Not telling them or flat out telling them it was for something else is not actionable. In the case of trump - it's got a long way to go and there have been over 20 indictments. There's lots being found. Of which exactly 2 have anything to do with Trump and its more than a little debatable they are valid charges. |
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Title: Re: Stretch.... Post by Eegore on 08/31/18 at 05:45:48 "Facts drive the narrative, not the other way around. It's what you constantly argue about Benghazi, emails, servers, Hilary's health, etc.... Do the same with Trump. " That is really hard for people to understand. Its so much easier to be right and reinforce that by finding anything that supports you, than it is to be accurate. There's a problem, I need facts. These are the facts I want, and any facts going against it are now fake and part of the conspiracy. Problem solved. |
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Title: Re: Stretch.... Post by T And T Garage on 08/31/18 at 05:58:22 5E6C6B7A7D6C7B44687B62090 wrote:
Whether or not that happens doesn't enter into it. To say it again for the umpteenth time - I'm NOT debating what was said in the meeting - we will never know. I'm debating the INTENT of the meeting based on the email from gladstone to jr. |
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Title: Re: Stretch.... Post by T And T Garage on 08/31/18 at 06:05:34 437176676071665975667F140 wrote:
True. However, this was only the first trial. trump's got people who pledged their loyalty to him, leaving in quick succession and cooperating with Mueller. There is a lot more to uncover I'm sure. |
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Title: Re: Stretch.... Post by faffi on 08/31/18 at 06:14:04 1636343C2136530 wrote:
Some are better at this than others ;) |
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Title: Re: Stretch.... Post by WebsterMark on 08/31/18 at 06:17:10 Go ahead and believe that they talked about adoption - I don't. That wasn't jr's intent. According to his Congressional testimony and emails he turned over, he took the meeting because he was told she had dirt on Hilary. When it was discovered she wanted to talk about the adoption bill, the meeting was essentially over. As far as the other stuff, lacking facts, you're free to spin whatever story you want. |
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Title: Re: Stretch.... Post by T And T Garage on 08/31/18 at 06:33:22 5B696E7F78697E416D7E670C0 wrote:
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Title: Re: Stretch.... Post by MnSpring on 08/31/18 at 07:26:15 736D62636E736875070 wrote:
Let me ask, what do you think the, "... INTENT of the meeting...", between Lynch and Clinton, was ? On a airplane, which was delayed, then cleared, which had guards standing around to assure no one went in. tt also said: "...He lied about the REASON for the meeting..." So tt, do you believe the meeting, on the cleared, guarded airplane, was about, 'Grand Kids" ? (Now again, before the Snowflakes get their panties all in a bunch) The fact that Lynch & Clinton, totally lied, about that meeting, and nothing was done. Is actually irrelevant. It's over, it's done. The illustration was to show, a prime example of TDS |
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Title: Re: Stretch.... Post by WebsterMark on 08/31/18 at 07:44:07 THANK YOU - this is what I've been saying! The intent of jr, acting on behalf of his father's campaign, was questionable from a legal standpoint. Working directly with a foreign national to get "dirt" on an opponent - not on the up and up. I never denied that was the purpose of the meeting and neither did he. He turned over the emails. He was hiding anything. From the press he was, but that's nothing. |
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Title: Re: Stretch.... Post by T And T Garage on 08/31/18 at 07:49:45 5B784566647F7871160 wrote:
Let me ask, what do you think the, "... INTENT of the meeting...", between Lynch and Clinton, was ? I don't know. There wasn't an email prior to it like there was for jr. But I should probably remind you that this reeks of "whataboutism". On a airplane, which was delayed, then cleared, which had guards standing around to assure no one went in. tt also said: "...He lied about the REASON for the meeting..." So tt, do you believe the meeting, on the cleared, guarded airplane, was about, 'Grand Kids" ? I don't know. Neither do you. (Now again, before the Snowflakes get their panties all in a bunch) The fact that Lynch & Clinton, totally lied, about that meeting, and nothing was done. Is actually irrelevant. It's over, it's done. The illustration was to show, a prime example of TDS [/quote] |
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Title: Re: Stretch.... Post by T And T Garage on 08/31/18 at 07:52:16 360403121504132C00130A610 wrote:
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Title: Re: Stretch.... Post by WebsterMark on 08/31/18 at 07:56:46 But he was hiding something. Initially he said the intent of the meeting was adoption. That was a lie. He lied. Period. His father propagated the lie. The entire story of the meeting changed 180 degrees from day one. From you, yes he was hiding something. The story didn't change. When he needed to reveal the true intent behind the meeting, he did. To you or the press, he didn't need to reveal the meaning. As I said, you've done the exact thing, time and time again. So either you are a serial liar or the act of not revealing confidential or information that's not of someone else's business, is a lie. It can't be both. |
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Title: Re: Stretch.... Post by T And T Garage on 08/31/18 at 08:03:22 665453424554437C50435A310 wrote:
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