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/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl General Category >> Politics, Religion (Tall Table) >> No Soup For You! /cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1535667292 Message started by T And T Garage on 08/30/18 at 15:14:52 |
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Title: No Soup For You! Post by T And T Garage on 08/30/18 at 15:14:52 http://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-cancels-pay-raise-due-174828322.html Because, well, we're broke... but yay capitalism and a trillion dollar tax break for corporations and the richest!! But yeah, these are civilian government jobs - who cares, right? |
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Title: Re: No Soup For You! Post by MnSpring on 08/30/18 at 15:51:09 LOLOLOOL A-Yep, another story by a TDS, 'news', reporter. Which is LACKING, the, 'Rest Of The Story', (aka P.Harvey) So it can be SPUN. |
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Title: Re: No Soup For You! Post by T And T Garage on 08/30/18 at 16:00:54 11320F2C2E35323B5C0 wrote:
Do you think I'm making this up? Did you even read the story? Please, if there's more to this story, enlighten us with it. Am I in error about the tax break? Are these not civilian government jobs that are affected? Again, if there's a error, please point it out. |
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Title: Re: No Soup For You! Post by Eegore on 08/30/18 at 16:46:01 What is the rest of the story? The article seems to point out what's happening, where is the spin? Is Trump not cutting wages? |
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Title: Re: No Soup For You! Post by T And T Garage on 08/30/18 at 16:57:20 48686A627F680D0 wrote:
Good questions... gee, I wonder if mn will answer them? |
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Title: Re: No Soup For You! Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/31/18 at 04:19:02 I read it. Not one word about what they are paid now. |
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Title: Re: No Soup For You! Post by T And T Garage on 08/31/18 at 05:05:47 687771766B6C5D6D5D65777B30020 wrote:
Not sure what difference that makes. I'm just showing that had this administration not given a huge tax break to the top & corporations, then maybe this COLA would have went through. But there seems to be no concern to lower echelon workers. |
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Title: Re: No Soup For You! Post by Eegore on 08/31/18 at 05:36:22 Pay grades are on multiple scales, some are direct salary and some hourly. Most are calculated by averaging similar jobs and pay rates in their respective region thus the "locality" pay. A job that pays $15 an hour in AL will pay $25 in NY due to locality pay. That is an estimate not a researched and verified number, the $15-$25 is for numeric exemplification only and not to be considered a fact or proof of payment schedules or grades. Since most locality pay is averaged among jobs in the area if the GS pay schedule employees are overpaid, then so are all people in that job category within that locality. Most pay schedules can be looked up here: https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/salaries-wages/ Just average out all of the numbers in your locality then contact your state labor dept. for their numbers so you can cross-reference the pay amounts. I am still interested in what part of the posted articles is spin or otherwise duplicitous. Are pay cuts not happening? |
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Title: Re: No Soup For You! Post by MnSpring on 08/31/18 at 07:09:16 6040424A5740250 wrote:
I would expect tt to not know or understand the difference between a, 'pay cut', and 'less of a raise'. A, 'raise' of 2.1%, will be moved, (most probably) to 1.9%. That is NOT, "...pay cuts ...". That is less of a, Raise. (For the panty in a bunch people) You make 15.00 a hour, then your boss said: 'I am now going to pay you 14.75 a hour". That would be a 'Pay cut'. If you make 15.00 a hour, and your boss says, last year you got a 35 cent per hour RAISE, this year i am giving you a 26 cent per hour RAISE. That would NOT be a, 'Pay-Cut'. |
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Title: Re: No Soup For You! Post by eau de sauvage on 08/31/18 at 07:15:15 MnSpring, your new phrase is 'TDS' but you reply to the question with the equivalent of 'fake news'. Do you see the irony? and another one you say "I would expect tt to not know or understand the difference between a, 'pay cut', and 'less of a raise'." Do you know the difference between 'less of a pay rise' and a 'pay freeze'? Or the cancellation of pay rises already due. Well of course you do but It didn't happen did it it's wait for it... 'fake news' http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-trump-freeze-pay-federal-workers-20180830-story.html |
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Title: Re: No Soup For You! Post by T And T Garage on 08/31/18 at 07:45:48 597A4764667D7A73140 wrote:
I would expect tt to not know or understand the difference between a, 'pay cut', and 'less of a raise'. Well mn, please show me where I said anything about a cut. I'll wait. A, 'raise' of 2.1%, will be moved, (most probably) to 1.9%. That is NOT, "...pay cuts ...". That is less of a, Raise. (For the panty in a bunch people) You make 15.00 a hour, then your boss said: 'I am now going to pay you 14.75 a hour". That would be a 'Pay cut'. If you make 15.00 a hour, and your boss says, last year you got a 35 cent per hour RAISE, this year i am giving you a 26 cent per hour RAISE. That would NOT be a, 'Pay-Cut'. [/quote] |
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Title: Re: No Soup For You! Post by Eegore on 08/31/18 at 09:17:06 Right, I am using a term that does not exist in the article : "pay cut" and it is a lowering of potential income not a cut. However it was not my statement, but the article itself that was labeled as "lacking the rest of the story" indicating the article and not my post is incorrect, duplicitous or otherwise incorrect. What in the article is missing, duplicitous or incorrect? In the article specifically. |
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Title: Re: No Soup For You! Post by MShipley on 08/31/18 at 10:07:23 All seems good to me: For a change this President decided to give the taxpayer a raise instead of the other way around. Just another I hate Trump thread. |
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Title: Re: No Soup For You! Post by T And T Garage on 08/31/18 at 12:27:17 6B754E4F564A435F260 wrote:
Well, read it as you like, the fact remains he cut their raise. But I'm sure if Obama did that, you'd of had the same reaction. |
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Title: Re: No Soup For You! Post by Eegore on 08/31/18 at 14:15:33 GS workers pay taxes, they are still civilians. |
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Title: Re: No Soup For You! Post by MnSpring on 08/31/18 at 17:40:14 382629282538233E4C0 wrote:
Na Obama would have never, 'lowered the amount of a expected raise'. I believe he would have said: "Their is the Street" LOOLLOLOLOLOLOLL Wait, that, 'could' be a, 'drive by', SO, (In a Announcer Voice) This Drive By Brought to you by MnSpring Inc. |
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Title: Re: No Soup For You! Post by T And T Garage on 09/01/18 at 05:28:04 1C3F022123383F36510 wrote:
Na Obama would have never, 'lowered the amount of a expected raise'. I believe he would have said: "Their is the Street" Do you mean "there is the street"? No, I don't think that would have happened. Mostly because his deficit spending wasn't going up, it was going down. He would have had money in the coffers for the raises. LOOLLOLOLOLOLOLL Wait, that, 'could' be a, 'drive by', SO, (In a Announcer Voice) This Drive By Brought to you by MnSpring Inc. [/quote] |
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