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Title: Trade Deficit Post by T And T Garage on 09/06/18 at 12:16:58 This was a huge part of trump's "great businessman" strategy, wasn't it? Maybe it's still too early to tell, but something seems a bit off... New data out Wednesday showed the U.S. trade deficit in July widening at its fastest rate since 2015 as monthly deficits with China and the European Union both hit new records . In the year so far, the U.S.’s overall goods and services deficit is up by $22 billion, or 7 percent, versus the same period last year.-Bloomberg http://finance.yahoo.com/news/things-not-going-plan-trumps-234528781.html |
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Title: Re: Trade Deficit Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/06/18 at 12:44:22 Too many good things happening to be freaked about that. |
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Title: Re: Trade Deficit Post by T And T Garage on 09/06/18 at 12:49:24 415E585F42457444744C5E52192B0 wrote:
Really? What "good things"? |
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Title: Re: Trade Deficit Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/06/18 at 12:52:46 They are obvious. Like Labor participation rate New unemployment filings Unemployment rate Takes a while to dig out of decades of bad management. |
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Title: Re: Trade Deficit Post by Serowbot on 09/06/18 at 12:52:52 667877767B667D60120 wrote:
Really? What "good things"? [/quote] He means the trillion dollar budget deficit... MAGA yer' brains out... ;D |
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Title: Re: Trade Deficit Post by LostArtist on 09/06/18 at 12:53:30 362827262B362D30420 wrote:
Really? What "good things"? [/quote] I'll answer for him "well if you don't know. then you can't be helped..... MAGAAAAAAAAAAA" |
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Title: Re: Trade Deficit Post by LostArtist on 09/06/18 at 12:54:20 77686E6974734272427A68642F1D0 wrote:
you didn't buy that when Obama was president, why are you buying it now?? |
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Title: Re: Trade Deficit Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/06/18 at 12:55:54 03203C3B0E3D3B263C3B4F0 wrote:
Really? What "good things"? [/quote] I'll answer for him "well if you don't know. then you can't be helped..... MAGAAAAAAAAAAA"[/quote] You're so busy being a turd you missed my reply. Pull your head out Look up |
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Title: Re: Trade Deficit Post by T And T Garage on 09/06/18 at 13:02:47 2F3036312C2B1A2A1A22303C77450 wrote:
Yeah, I know - it took Obama eight years to clean up the mess and hand trump the keys to a well running country. |
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Title: Re: Trade Deficit Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/06/18 at 13:07:52 Yeah, I know - it took Obama eight years to clean up the mess and hand trump the keys to a well running country. Delusional |
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Title: Re: Trade Deficit Post by LostArtist on 09/06/18 at 13:09:59 4E5157504D4A7B4B7B43515D16240 wrote:
that's actually sequential, the actual order of things as they happened through time.... to deny that, is delusional. |
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Title: Re: Trade Deficit Post by LostArtist on 09/06/18 at 13:10:30 7B646265787F4E7E4E76646823110 wrote:
Really? What "good things"? [/quote] I'll answer for him "well if you don't know. then you can't be helped..... MAGAAAAAAAAAAA"[/quote] You're so busy being a turd you missed my reply. Pull your head out Look up[/quote] I replied to your reply, look up |
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Title: Re: Trade Deficit Post by T And T Garage on 09/06/18 at 20:33:31 7E6167607D7A4B7B4B73616D26140 wrote:
Me? No. Again, I live in the real world jog. I saw what happened from 2001 to 2016. I saw the change. It was good and it began under Obama. Unless you're living in bizzaro world, anyone can see the good that was done by his administration. |
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Title: Re: Trade Deficit Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/06/18 at 22:35:14 He was NOT gonna get America back to work like Trump has. He Mocked trump for even saying he was gonna bring jobs back. What? You gotta magic wand? Too complicated for you to understand? I've explained it several times. |
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Title: Re: Trade Deficit Post by T And T Garage on 09/07/18 at 07:43:36 081711160B0C3D0D3D05171B50620 wrote:
No jog, in fact, it's more simple than even you think. The only thing trump has done is not muck it up.. yet. He inherited a strong economy on the rebound. He didn't bring any jobs back, the administration (you know, the establishment republicans) crafted a tax cut that he signed, which has kept the momentum up. Yes, it's been a boon to the corporations, and on its surface looks great. But to think that trump had much of anything to do with it is folly. Sorry jog, he's just not that smart. Job growth has been picking up steam since 2009 (something like 75 straight months of growth under Obama). Don't get me wrong, I love that the economy is continuing on the same path (my 401K and investments are strong), but I'm realistic enought to know that its not because of trump, it's in spite of trump. |
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Title: Re: Trade Deficit Post by WebsterMark on 09/07/18 at 10:29:44 Yea.....that Obama 10 year plan is kicking in right on schedule..... |
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Title: Re: Trade Deficit Post by T And T Garage on 09/07/18 at 10:52:17 546661707766714E627168030 wrote:
Well, yeah, you're right - it is. To think that trump has "done it all" is at the least misguided and at the worst delusional. My previous post explains it all. |
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Title: Re: Trade Deficit Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/07/18 at 11:56:40 Obama Didn't Believe Jobs Could Be Brought Back after years of promising to Revisit Nafta Obama did NOTHING |
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Title: Re: Trade Deficit Post by T And T Garage on 09/07/18 at 12:30:38 27383E3924231222122A38347F4D0 wrote:
So.... what happened under Obama's watch was nothing? You sure? Because I saw a whole bunch of new jobs and growth for 75 months. You might want to redefine your version of "nothing". Also, what's the percentage of manufacturing jobs compared to ... oh, say 30 years ago? You see jog, once again it's about CONTEXT. This is in the same ilk as the "you didn't build that" quote. Manufacturing jobs are NOT coming back to what they were historically. That's a fact. Whether that's good or bad remains to be seen. But come back to reality and have a look. http://data.bls.gov/pdq/SurveyOutputServlet |
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Title: Re: Trade Deficit Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/07/18 at 13:08:33 Friday, September 7, 2018 4:07 PM The database is currently unavailable. Your request was invalid for this Data Access Servic I tried |
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Title: Re: Trade Deficit Post by T And T Garage on 09/07/18 at 13:47:45 5B444245585F6E5E6E56444803310 wrote:
Try this: https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CES0000000001?output_view=net_1mth |
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Title: Re: Trade Deficit Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/07/18 at 15:50:29 Looks contradictory to Highest labor participation Lowest unemployment Companies bringing money home Building facilities Employing more people |
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Title: Re: Trade Deficit Post by thumperclone on 09/09/18 at 04:15:51 wages DOWN .2 percent when you figure in inflation I know its Obamas' fault |
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Title: Re: Trade Deficit Post by WebsterMark on 09/09/18 at 06:05:52 2F332E362B3E29383734353E5B0 wrote:
The long-awaited pickup in U.S. wage growth may have finally arrived. Average hourly earnings rose 2.9 percent in August from a year earlier, the sharpest jump since June 2009, the Labor Department said Friday. The rise last month means worker pay is finally increasing at a noticeably higher pace than the 2.3 percent yearly inflation measure tracked by the Federal Reserve. And that gives households a little more breathing room in their monthly budgets. Until now, pay increases have accelerated, but gradually. They’ve averaged about 2.7 percent in 2018, up from 2.5 percent the prior two years. Economists have expected yearly pay increases to hit 3 percent since unemployment dipped below 5 percent in 2016 as more employers began struggling to find workers. Wages will go up. Especially as or if illegal immigration drops further. Employers have to attract workers and wages are the last thing they do. The idea Americans won't do certain jobs is BS. Pay them enough and they'll do it. Democratic illegal immigration policy has always hurt the lowest rungs of the social economic ladder yet they line up behind Democratics and vote for them and all the while they are getting fitted for a noose around their necks.... That's the power of an activist media. |
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Title: Re: Trade Deficit Post by Eegore on 09/09/18 at 07:05:54 Can you reference that article? I'd like to look into where they get those numbers. |
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Title: Re: Trade Deficit Post by WebsterMark on 09/09/18 at 08:06:31 It was a Bloomberg article that was picked up and ran in several places. http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/msn/wage-pickup-in-us-renews-hope-long-awaited-liftoff-is-near/ar-BBN0oEa |
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Title: Re: Trade Deficit Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/09/18 at 10:58:32 Unscrewing decades of bad policy does not happen in a week. We are heading in a better direction than any of us are old enough to remember seeing. Well, maybe a couple, but not me and I'm 63. No, TT, the Obama recovery was the weakest and slowest since the depression. QE was horrible. And we aren't finished with the hurt from it. Not all Obama's fault, it's been decades since anyone actually did smart things FOR America. You people oppose Trump out of ignorance of economies and because you hate the man. Talk about voting against your own best interest.. Lefties take the gold medal. |
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Title: Re: Trade Deficit Post by eau de sauvage on 09/09/18 at 13:04:02 @JoG Like Labor participation rate Unemployment rate Takes a while to dig out of decades of bad management. http://https://s33.postimg.cc/6hv0utoq7/umprat.jpg http://https://s33.postimg.cc/s4a1buv0f/usunrat.jpg http://https://s33.postimg.cc/yttfuk4of/image.jpg |
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Title: Re: Trade Deficit Post by eau de sauvage on 09/09/18 at 13:08:26 http://https://s33.postimg.cc/ggfzhcg67/dest.jpg |
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Title: Re: Trade Deficit Post by faffi on 09/10/18 at 00:22:08 [smiley=tekst-toppie.gif] eau |
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Title: Re: Trade Deficit Post by WebsterMark on 09/10/18 at 04:36:00 From The New York Times: The headlines for the August job numbers released this morning are nothing but good. Employers added a robust 201,000 jobs, the unemployment rate remained at the rock-bottom level of 3.9 percent, and wages grew the fastest they have in nine years. There’s no doubt that this is the best economy in quite a long time for American workers, who by a wide range of measures can find a job more easily than they have in a decade … |
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Title: Re: Trade Deficit Post by T And T Garage on 09/10/18 at 06:13:27 370502131405122D01120B600 wrote:
No one's (at least not me) is saying the economy's not doing good. That's not what's in question. What's in question is what trump has to do with it. Which is mostly nothing. He's giving autographs at signing ceremonies for the republican establishment. Reading his twitter feed and listening to his off the prompter speaking, it's pretty obvious that he couldn't possibly understand the complexities of the US economy. These tax cuts are great for the corporations. Not the middle class. When you factor in inflation, the rise in wages is just OK. |
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Title: Re: Trade Deficit Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/10/18 at 06:20:33 I seem to remember a list of things trump would do. Wreck the economy was one. Instead,he supercharged it. Pay attention I'm tired of rubbing your nose in it. Deregulation The change in taxes did more than you're able to see. Look at the repatriated money Building new manufacturing facilities Done with explaining I'm TIRED of the unwillingness to see the obvious. |
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Title: Re: Trade Deficit Post by T And T Garage on 09/10/18 at 06:25:12 584741465B5C6D5D6D55474B00320 wrote:
Then please, don't feel the need to comment. It's not my fault if you don't see trump the way everyone else does. (gee, I guess trump's not the only one who's thin-skinned) |
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Title: Re: Trade Deficit Post by MnSpring on 09/10/18 at 06:58:23 203E31303D203B26540 wrote:
You are partially right, (for once). Not everyone has the all out, total, complete, HATRED, of Trump, like you do. Most certainly their are things, and everybody expresses a view on their like or dislike on the way Trump does things. But non of it close, (well maybe a clown from another country, who is a subject of a Monarchy) than what you say. And OH, “…the way everyone else does….” No, Not, "…everyone…”. Just the UL’s and the Comic Book character believers. ‘In the Justice League’. |
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Title: Re: Trade Deficit Post by T And T Garage on 09/10/18 at 08:24:46 6C4F725153484F46210 wrote:
You are partially right, (for once). Not everyone has the all out, total, complete, HATRED, of Trump, like you do. Most certainly their are things, and everybody expresses a view on their like or dislike on the way Trump does things. But non of it close, (well maybe a clown from another country, who is a subject of a Monarchy) than what you say. And OH, “…the way everyone else does….” No, Not, "…everyone…”. Just the UL’s and the Comic Book character believers. ‘In the Justice League’. [/quote] ---and over 60% of the US. trumpster fire's numbers are pretty low mn. You and the other defenders of this moron are in the minority. |
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Title: Re: Trade Deficit Post by faffi on 09/10/18 at 12:55:14 To be fair to Trump, we must for now relate to the facts, which is that economy has continued the positive trend that began under Obama. I do not think we, with our limited access to inside information, have the means to say whether the good times are a result of Trump's actions or if they are a result despite Trump's (negative) actions. So unless the economy starts to falter and the reasons behind it are blatantly obviously the fault of the policy of Trump, I think one should accept that it could be due to the current line of governing the economy. That was too bloody many words to say that until proven a disaster, we should accept that the economy is good and that Trump have made a positive contribution. Also worth mentioning is that the market to a great deal sort itself out, regardless of who is governing. By that I mean the decline under Bush was far from only the fault of that administration, just as the improvements under Obama and Trump are not solely caused by those administrations. The policy can strengthen or weaken the effects, good or bad, but the market itself - locally and globally - have great power in itself. |
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Title: Re: Trade Deficit Post by T And T Garage on 09/10/18 at 13:57:38 202720202F460 wrote:
No, I can't reward trump for any of this. His administration, perhaps. but not him. Even today he lied about the economy - and it wasn't necessary. “The GDP Rate (4.2%) is higher than the Unemployment Rate (3.9%) for the first time in over 100 years!” No you idiot - 10 years. (yet he still hasn't taken it down) You see, he has no grasp of reality. Even though that news is still fantastic (GDP adjusted to 4.2% in the first quarter and higher than unemployment), he's too lazy to find out what's true and what's not. He lacks the basic intelligence/intuition to know what is right and what's not. He lies nearly all the time. Why? No one knows. Yes, the economy is doing great - I'll be the first to say I'm surprised. But it's completely in spite of this man, not because of him. Things like the tweet above are just reinforcement of that fact. |
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Title: Re: Trade Deficit Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/10/18 at 14:01:19 Investors say you're wrong. The stock market responded positively when he was elected. Because businessmen listened to him and trusted what he was saying. WINNING |
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Title: Re: Trade Deficit Post by T And T Garage on 09/10/18 at 14:03:59 3A252324393E0F3F0F37252962500 wrote:
Yeah, and every tweet they get more nervous. He'a a moron. He's a liar. he's funded by the russians. He'll never release his taxes. |
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Title: Re: Trade Deficit Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/10/18 at 19:16:26 That moron beat about fourteen bubs And your bipedal pustule. Business owners are investing in growth. The repatriated billions are being used to build manufacturing. Yeah, trump is the fool.. |
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Title: Re: Trade Deficit Post by MnSpring on 09/11/18 at 06:34:21 3C222D2C213C273A480 wrote:
LOLOLOLOLOLOL When someone believes in Comic Book Characters, It a good chance they believe ‘polls’, which ask leading questions. Saw the news last night, saw the map, where a bunch of lines were coming to shore. (all taking a different path) (Hurricane Florence) The reporter asked, why so many, ‘forecasts’, the Weatherman said: ‘Because of 20 different agencies are interpreting the SAME information’. And that, (Hurricane), is the SAME, information. Polls are Not even, remotely close, to the, 'same'. |
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Title: Re: Trade Deficit Post by T And T Garage on 09/11/18 at 06:34:46 66797F7865625363536B79753E0C0 wrote:
No, the fools are those that follow and protect him. He can't find a coherent sentence off prompter with both hands and a flashlight. He is only signing autographs for the republican establishment. His approval numbers show it. The approval numbers on the tax cut show it. His twitter feed shows it. His allowing of massive deficit spending shows it. His constant golf habit shows it. His constant and voluminus lying shows it. You're being played jog - thought you were smarter than that, but like I said, we all make mistakes. |
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Title: Re: Trade Deficit Post by T And T Garage on 09/11/18 at 06:37:21 5D7E436062797E77100 wrote:
LOLOLOLOLOLOL When someone believes in Comic Book Characters, It a good chance they believe ‘polls’, which ask leading questions. Polls are polls mn. They don't care that you don't believe them. (oh, but you probably do when they support your positions though). Saw the news last night, saw the map, where a bunch of lines were coming to shore. (all taking a different path) (Hurricane Florence) The reporter asked, why so many, ‘forecasts’, the Weatherman said: ‘Because of 20 different agencies are interpreting the SAME information’. Polls are like the weather? Hmm.. that's just silly mn. And that, (Hurricane), is the SAME, information. Polls are Not even, remotely close, to the, 'same'. Um, sorry, they are. They all show that trump is very unpopular. I know that must hurt. Bless your heart. [/quote] |
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