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Title: Racist threats against Vermont candidate... Post by Serowbot on 09/10/18 at 16:35:08 MAGA... Making America White Again... :-? Vermont’s Only Black Woman Lawmaker Dropped Her Reelection Bid Because Of Racist Threats. She says she's received racist threats. She’s reported a home invasion. In the woods near her house, she says she found swastikas painted on the trees. The online attacks are “so pervasive,” she’s said, that even her 7-year-old son saw them. ...an incident a few weeks ago at a youth camp in Stowe, where a number of black children said they were called racist names by members of the local community. In Morrisville, a large swastika was left painted near a school. And inside party headquarters, staffers have received harassing phone calls directed at Democratic gubernatorial nominee Christine Hallquist, who is a transgender woman. |
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Title: Re: Racist threats against Vermont candidate... Post by MnSpring on 09/10/18 at 17:09:19 WOW, perfect example, of BLAME someone else. For someones stupidity ! |
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Title: Re: Racist threats against Vermont candidate... Post by Eegore on 09/10/18 at 17:31:55 Who are they blaming? |
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Title: Re: Racist threats against Vermont candidate... Post by T And T Garage on 09/10/18 at 17:35:09 4E6D5073716A6D64030 wrote:
Really? How many swastikas have you found on your property? How many racist threats have you gotten? Yeah, shame on her for putting her family first. <<<<< that's sarcasm mn - I know you have a hard time recognizing it. |
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Title: Re: Racist threats against Vermont candidate... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/10/18 at 21:41:41 Isn't tracing online sources pretty easy? I wouldn't get too excited just yet. How many VicTims of RayCizm actually did the deed? Quite a few.. But they have generally been young. If it's for real, it's shameful. |
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Title: Re: Racist threats against Vermont candidate... Post by WebsterMark on 09/11/18 at 03:42:41 If this is real, it would be the exception. I've read so many of these that have been faked I don't believe them right off the bat and neither should you. |
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Title: Re: Racist threats against Vermont candidate... Post by MnSpring on 09/11/18 at 05:54:13 7555575F4255300 wrote:
The original poster, posts something, which someone else did, which is very wrong. (Is it true or not ? don’t know, no information of where it came from and who said it, never the less, it’s still wrong) The original Poster, very clearly lauded to it’s, Trump’s Fault, by stating a logo/phrase, that is only connected with Trump. I Believe, Ray Charles, would be able to, ‘see’, this one. |
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Title: Re: Racist threats against Vermont candidate... Post by Serowbot on 09/11/18 at 07:30:28 It's the exception,... ...exceptions are up this year... :-? |
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Title: Re: Racist threats against Vermont candidate... Post by Eegore on 09/11/18 at 07:46:27 Well it is pretty obvious that White Supremacy activity is up since President trumps election. Not sure why, I haven't researched it this is an opinion based off of my own observations, I will provide no data or research. Blaming the President directly is not productive that's for sure. That's like me getting upset and blurting out some racist nonsense and blaming the person who made me upset. Accountability is diffused when more people are onboard so that's a contributing factor here as well. I have no references for this assessment. |
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Title: Re: Racist threats against Vermont candidate... Post by Serowbot on 09/11/18 at 08:26:41 0626242C3126430 wrote:
I know that guy... :-? |
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Title: Re: Racist threats against Vermont candidate... Post by T And T Garage on 09/11/18 at 08:42:48 4157405D45505D46320 wrote:
I know that guy... :-?[/quote] LOL - me too! ;) |
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Title: Re: Racist threats against Vermont candidate... Post by WebsterMark on 09/12/18 at 04:09:16 Here's a real attack, more typical of liberals. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/11/california-gop-house-candidate-used-campaign-sign-to-protect-himself-from-knife-attacker-investigator-says.html |
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Title: Re: Racist threats against Vermont candidate... Post by T And T Garage on 09/12/18 at 06:46:52 605255444352457A56455C370 wrote:
Here's a real attack, more typical of conservatives. (5th video on page) http://abc11.com/7-arrested-during-rally-on-uncs-campus-near-the-silent-sam-monument/4049683/ |
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Title: Re: Racist threats against Vermont candidate... Post by WebsterMark on 09/12/18 at 07:05:58 Missed the knife attack in that one..... Besides, if want a tit-for-tat conservative vs liberal violence contest, liberals would win hands down. Libs are always protesting or beating somebody up. |
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Title: Re: Racist threats against Vermont candidate... Post by Eegore on 09/12/18 at 07:23:44 This is cheaper than war that's for sure. |
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Title: Re: Racist threats against Vermont candidate... Post by Serowbot on 09/12/18 at 07:54:17 List of organizations designated by the Southern Poverty Law Center as hate groups 1 Types of groups 1.1 Organized hate 1.1.1 Ku Klux Klan 1.1.2 Neo-Nazi 1.1.3 White separatist/nationalist 1.1.4 Racist skinheads 1.1.5 Anti-government movement 1.1.6 Black separatist/nationalist 1.1.7 Neo-Confederate 1.1.8 Christian Identity 1.2 General hate 1.2.1 Anti-LGBT 1.2.2 Anti-immigrant 1.2.3 Holocaust denial 1.2.4 Male supremacy 1.2.5 Neo-Volkisch 1.2.6 Racist music/hate music 1.2.7 Radical traditional Catholicism 1.2.8 Anti-Muslim |
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Title: Re: Racist threats against Vermont candidate... Post by Eegore on 09/12/18 at 08:22:44 That's a drop in the bucket: "The Southern Poverty Law Center documented 954 active hate groups in the United States in 2017." - SPLC Other sources: https://www.statista.com/statistics/740008/us-hate-groups-by-type/ |
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Title: Re: Racist threats against Vermont candidate... Post by WebsterMark on 09/12/18 at 08:25:43 The SPLC is not the definitive voice on this topic but regardless, if you wanna match violence for violence, you’ll lose. However, I’ve gone down this road before. You’ll deny association with multiple groups but demand that conservatives are closely aligned with anyone you want to assign to them. You’ll refuse to include antifa or police killers on your side but you’ll lump Tim McVey on my side. The guy who shot up the Congressional baseball game will be mentally unstable but Gabby Giffords shooter will count towards me. That’s the only way you can keep this game close. |
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Title: Re: Racist threats against Vermont candidate... Post by WebsterMark on 09/12/18 at 08:27:43 6545474F5245200 wrote:
Is Black Lives Matter on that list? |
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Title: Re: Racist threats against Vermont candidate... Post by Eegore on 09/12/18 at 09:03:16 "The SPLC is not the definitive voice on this topic but regardless, if you wanna match violence for violence, you’ll lose. However, I’ve gone down this road before. You’ll deny association with multiple groups but demand that conservatives are closely aligned with anyone you want to assign to them. You’ll refuse to include antifa or police killers on your side but you’ll lump Tim McVey on my side. The guy who shot up the Congressional baseball game will be mentally unstable but Gabby Giffords shooter will count towards me. That’s the only way you can keep this game close. " I agree. Comparative violence is a waste of time typically, but its easier than working for a solution, and I feel better if I make someone else out to be a villain instead of working on improving myself and my community. "Is Black Lives Matter on that list? " No. |
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Title: Re: Racist threats against Vermont candidate... Post by T And T Garage on 09/12/18 at 10:02:22 407275646372655A76657C170 wrote:
No mark, you wouldn't. |
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Title: Re: Racist threats against Vermont candidate... Post by WebsterMark on 09/12/18 at 10:46:45 Just one story of many, I’d win by a mile. Not even close. Sen. Susan Collins (R-ME) and her staffers are facing taunts and threats over Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh, including a rape threat, reports the New York Times. Buried under no fewer than ten paragraphs and the anodyne headline, “Interest Groups Turn Up Pressure on Senators Before Kavanaugh Vote,” the far-left New York Times finally gets to the meat of the story with the news that Collins and her staffers are facing “threats” and “vulgar language” from the left-wing Resistance, all of this in the hope of intimidating Collins to vote against Kavanaugh’s confirmation. “The [left’s] frustration has boiled over at points,” the Times understates. “Annie Clark, a spokeswoman for Ms. Collins, provided The New York Times with copies of a letter and multiple voice mail messages addressed to the senator using vulgar language and outright threats.” One example of a threat is a “caller [who] told a 25-year-old female staff member at one of Ms. Collins’s Maine offices that he hoped she would be raped and impregnated.” Collins has also had some 3,000 coat hangers mailed to her office (a reference to the back alley abortion). Protesters have shown up at Collins’ private home in Bangor. |
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Title: Re: Racist threats against Vermont candidate... Post by T And T Garage on 09/12/18 at 12:32:38 http://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jun/14/doxxing-assault-death-threats-the-new-dangers-facing-us-journalists-covering-extremism After the latest hate crime in Portland, Oregon — in which white supremacist Jeremy Christian killed Ricky Best and Taliesin Namkai-Meche on a train after they attempted to stop him from berating two Muslim women — three people have been killed by white terrorists in the last week. The other hate crime-related murder happened at the University of Maryland, when 23-year-old Richard Collins III was stabbed to death by Sean Urbanski. Collins was just commissioned as a lieutenant in the United States Army. ---------------------------------- May 2017. During that time, the article points out, Richard Collins — a newly-commissioned U.S. Army Lieutenant and a black man — was stabbed to death on the campus of the University of Maryland. Sean Urbanski, who is white, is charged with his murder. Police say Urbanski approached Collins and his friends with a knife and shouted: “Step left, step left, if you know what’s good for you!” When Collins said “No”, Urbanski reportedly stabbed him in the chest. University of Maryland Police Chief David Mitchell said Urbanski was a member of the “Alt-Reich” Facebook group, which he described as “despicable” and said exhibited “extreme bias against women, Latinos, members of the Jewish faith and especially, African-Americans.” -------------------------------------- Capital Gazette shooting: Suspect charged after 5 killed at Maryland newspaper http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/multiple-people-reported-shot-maryland-newspaper-office-n887526 --------------------------------------- |
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Title: Re: Racist threats against Vermont candidate... Post by T And T Garage on 09/12/18 at 12:35:20 102225343322350A26352C470 wrote:
Again, that's protest - First Amendment. |
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Title: Re: Racist threats against Vermont candidate... Post by T And T Garage on 09/12/18 at 12:54:02 http://www.defenseone.com/threats/2018/02/national-security-pros-its-time-talk-about-right-wing-extremism/146319/ Over the last decade, individuals and groups fueled by this virulent ideology have committed 71 percent of the known politically or religiously inspired killings in our country — that is, 274 of the 387 Americans murdered by extremists. Reports now indicate it was part of the recent murder of 17 school children and teachers in Florida, just as it was part of mass shootings that have happened everywhere from California to Charleston. It has not just hit inside the US, but has struck many of our closest allies, both causing near-tragedies and horrible massacres. It is not a new threat; it has killed hundreds of Americans in past decades. But it is growing in power and influence, worrisomely being stoked by foreign nations like Russia that wish our nation harm. It is a clear, present, and proven danger to the United States. http://qz.com/1182778/the-far-right-was-responsible-for-the-majority-of-extremist-killings-in-2017/ |
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Title: Re: Racist threats against Vermont candidate... Post by WebsterMark on 09/12/18 at 13:42:52 Yea, ok. If you and this article say so. |
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Title: Re: Racist threats against Vermont candidate... Post by WebsterMark on 09/12/18 at 14:16:11 Just so I'm clear, leftist who threaten Senators and go thru the trouble to mail things to her office are protesters who have no influence whatsoever over their more violent comrades (like the Congressional baseball shooter), but Trump is responsible for the Parkland Fl shooting..... |
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Title: Re: Racist threats against Vermont candidate... Post by Serowbot on 09/12/18 at 14:31:15 5F6D6A7B7C6D7A45697A63080 wrote:
You have "alternative facts"?... :-? ...or just your usual anecdoodles?... ::) |
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Title: Re: Racist threats against Vermont candidate... Post by verslagen1 on 09/12/18 at 14:58:01 The alternate facts is that the 1st one on the list is a brown clansman with a black brother born of a crack mother. Probably given a get out of jail card so the nut job would shoot up something and did. To call him alt right simply does not give the full picture. |
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Title: Re: Racist threats against Vermont candidate... Post by T And T Garage on 09/12/18 at 15:14:17 784A4D5C5B4A5D624E5D442F0 wrote:
Threaten - no, not cool. It's assault and should be punished accordingly. But mailing a coat-hanger? That's a protest. It does not inflict pain or suffering. Sorry mark, you can't possibly think that the left is exclusive in motivating. Pizzagate? Abortion clinic bombings? trump himself inciting violence at his rallies? (“I’d like to punch him in the face” - “Maybe he should have been roughed up” - “Part of the problem is no one wants to hurt each other anymore” - “I don’t know if I’ll do the fighting myself or if other people will” - “The audience hit back. That’s what we need a little bit more of” - “If you do (hurt him), I’ll defend you in court, don’t worry about it”) So yeah, you want to talk about actual violence, the trumpsters have the market cornered. |
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Title: Re: Racist threats against Vermont candidate... Post by WebsterMark on 09/12/18 at 16:08:48 Abortion clinic bombings! Seriously ?! That’s a rare event. And that’s my point. Trump says something that’s not inciting violence but you add it to your list but if I call out The Rev Al for actually incitement that resulted in death, you’ll cry foul. Leftist are violent. |
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Title: Re: Racist threats against Vermont candidate... Post by Matchless G11 on 09/12/18 at 17:18:18 495F48554D58554E3A0 wrote:
Radical traditional Catholicism? Is that meaning the starting of the hospital system? or the universities? Both things the church started. I guess that is a hate group. |
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Title: Re: Racist threats against Vermont candidate... Post by WebsterMark on 09/12/18 at 17:30:50 The SPLC is a shakedown organization. They've got all the credibility of the Nobel Peace Prize Committee. |
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Title: Re: Racist threats against Vermont candidate... Post by Eegore on 09/12/18 at 17:31:52 "Radical traditional Catholicism? Is that meaning the starting of the hospital system? or the universities? Both things the church started. I guess that is a hate group." Not at all what is listed as a hate group. "Radical" is the operative word. Nothing in any of the articles say that all Catholic organizations are hate groups. Read the information instead of only the title. Its like saying "Male supremacy" is on the list so males are bad. "Radical traditionalists are not the same as Catholics who call themselves “traditionalists”" "They also embrace extremely conservative social ideals with respect to women." "This religious subculture's teachings have little in common with the modern Roman Catholic Church and its universalistic theology." https://cruxnow.com/church/2016/05/27/radical-catholic-blogs-may-be-a-cesspool-but-saying-so-wont-help/ https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/ideology/radical-traditional-catholicism https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/2007/radical-traditionalist-catholics-spew-anti-semitic-hate-commit-violence-against-jews |
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Title: Re: Racist threats against Vermont candidate... Post by Matchless G11 on 09/12/18 at 17:38:49 Will the SPLC also list radical feminists? Radical gays? Radical animal right groups? Radical environmental groups? Sadly I hear crickets. I guess I will fish out my Noble peace prize out of the bottom of the cereal box, ( that if Yasser Arafat did not get it first. :( ) |
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Title: Re: Racist threats against Vermont candidate... Post by Eegore on 09/12/18 at 18:08:32 The SPLC in my opinion reflects bias, but what they do present is accurate. They do not list anti-straight hate groups, which I am sure exist but in significantly lower numbers than anti-gay groups, or extreme animal welfare groups. They do not list Catholics, or churches that do things like run hospitals or universities as a hate group. This is based off my observations and limited research when compiled and posted here represent my opinion. I have no references or data. |
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Title: Re: Racist threats against Vermont candidate... Post by T And T Garage on 09/12/18 at 18:11:10 665453424554437C50435A310 wrote:
OK. Then I guess all righties are nazis. Have it your way. |
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Title: Re: Racist threats against Vermont candidate... Post by T And T Garage on 09/12/18 at 18:13:12 4C7E79686F7E69567A69701B0 wrote:
LOL - yeah, those idiot Nobel Laureates. What the he!! have they contributed to society, right? smh |
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Title: Re: Racist threats against Vermont candidate... Post by MnSpring on 09/12/18 at 18:28:30 223C33323F223924560 wrote:
OK. Then I guess all righties are nazis. Have it your way. [/quote] Before I leave, (then come back), can a Troll see a difference between. "...Leftist are violent..." and "... all righties are nazis..." (Rather standard Troll 101, don't worry tt, I will find some Ocean front lots in N.D. for ya) |
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Title: Re: Racist threats against Vermont candidate... Post by T And T Garage on 09/12/18 at 18:40:42 785B6645475C5B52350 wrote:
OK. Then I guess all righties are nazis. Have it your way. [/quote] Before I leave, (then come back), can a Troll see a difference between. "...Leftist are violent..." and "... all righties are nazis..." (Rather standard Troll 101, don't worry tt, I will find some Ocean front lots in N.D. for ya) [/quote] There are no ocean fronts in North Dakota. But I guess I'm not surprised you don't know that. |
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