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Message started by raydawg on 09/27/18 at 08:17:50

Title: As bad as Trump is.......
Post by raydawg on 09/27/18 at 08:17:50

Folks got it right.....

Can you imagine that a woman, who called the women her husband assaulted, bimbos and claimed it was a vast right wing conspiracy, should be president?   :o

Can you just imagine how this activity would still be in place, and ACCEPTED, if she had won  :o

Yeah, Trump is a problem, and a we need to be certain any SC justice is as honest as we can ascertain, but a president getting away with condoning rape, assaults, etc, for their own political empowering can NEVER be accepted, right?  

Title: Re: As bad as Trump is.......
Post by Serowbot on 09/27/18 at 08:34:00


44574F52574151360 wrote:
... but a president getting away with condoning rape, assaults, etc, for their own political empowering can NEVER be accepted, right?  


Trump?...

Can you see a hypocrisy here?...

You can also add, racism, sexism, and indifference to suffering...

Title: Re: As bad as Trump is.......
Post by raydawg on 09/27/18 at 08:38:48


6375627F67727F64100 wrote:
[quote author=44574F52574151360 link=1538061470/0#0 date=1538061470]... but a president getting away with condoning rape, assaults, etc, for their own political empowering can NEVER be accepted, right?  


Trump?...

Can you see a hypocrisy here?...

You can also add, racism, sexism, and indifference to suffering...[/quote]

Can you?

I wasn't able to muster the overlooking his character to vote for him.
Did you overlook your hypocrisy?  

Title: Re: As bad as Trump is.......
Post by Serowbot on 09/27/18 at 09:06:01

Oh yeah,.. I remember this...

"I know you are, but what am I?".... ::)

Title: Re: As bad as Trump is.......
Post by verslagen1 on 09/27/18 at 09:24:42

As bad as Trump is... how bad do you have to be to loose to him?

Title: Re: As bad as Trump is.......
Post by raydawg on 09/27/18 at 09:27:00


6B7D6A776F7A776C180 wrote:
Oh yeah,.. I remember this...

"I know you are, but what am I?".... ::)


C'mon man, try and pick it up a notch......eh?

You brought up, introduced hypocrisy, I expanded upon it, EXPLAINING why I couldn't vote for Trump.

You play games, obfuscate, and deflect, yet blame others as disingenuous in arguing/debating the subject.


Why?  

Title: Re: As bad as Trump is.......
Post by raydawg on 09/27/18 at 09:28:56


564552534C4147454E11200 wrote:
As bad as Trump is... how bad do you have to be to loose to him?


I like the girding this question established.....
We have heard the lessor of two evils, yes?

But look deeper, lets reflect on how we got to these two finalist.
The answer lies within ourselves.

Title: Re: As bad as Trump is.......
Post by Serowbot on 09/27/18 at 09:29:02

+ 3,000,000 votes... (with Trump aided by Russian interference)...


Title: Re: As bad as Trump is.......
Post by raydawg on 09/27/18 at 09:47:24


5046514C54414C57230 wrote:
+ 3,000,000 votes... (with Trump aided by Russian interference)...


WOW......

With all the resources spent on finding that collusion, none have come to light....
Not even with the liberal affiliations of the incessant media pounding, or interference.

Thick as a brick.  

Title: Re: As bad as Trump is.......
Post by Serowbot on 09/27/18 at 11:09:18


594A524F4A5C4C2B0 wrote:
Thick as a brick.  


Title: Re: As bad as Trump is.......
Post by T And T Garage on 09/27/18 at 11:28:16


23302835302636510 wrote:
Folks got it right.....

Can you imagine that a woman, who called the women her husband assaulted, bimbos and claimed it was a vast right wing conspiracy, should be president?   :o

She'd be a heck of a lot better than donny.

Can you just imagine how this activity would still be in place, and ACCEPTED, if she had won  :o

Nope - neither can you.

Yeah, Trump is a problem, and a we need to be certain any SC justice is as honest as we can ascertain, but a president getting away with condoning rape, assaults, etc, for their own political empowering can NEVER be accepted, right?  


Right.  hillary never "accepted" it ray.

You may want to check what you consider "facts".

Title: Re: As bad as Trump is.......
Post by T And T Garage on 09/27/18 at 11:29:23


66756D70756373140 wrote:
[quote author=6375627F67727F64100 link=1538061470/0#1 date=1538062440][quote author=44574F52574151360 link=1538061470/0#0 date=1538061470]... but a president getting away with condoning rape, assaults, etc, for their own political empowering can NEVER be accepted, right?  


Trump?...

Can you see a hypocrisy here?...

You can also add, racism, sexism, and indifference to suffering...[/quote]

Can you?

I wasn't able to muster the overlooking his character to vote for him.
Did you overlook your hypocrisy?  
[/quote]


LMAO - you didn't vote at all ray!!

Now, here you are defending his SC pick and his actions.

Sad.

Title: Re: As bad as Trump is.......
Post by T And T Garage on 09/27/18 at 11:31:00


3A293E3F202D2B29227D4C0 wrote:
As bad as Trump is... how bad do you have to be to loose to him?


It's a fact that hillary was the least popular democratic candidate in a long time.

However, she was still more popular than donny.

He did indeed win, but by the skin of his teeth.

Title: Re: As bad as Trump is.......
Post by T And T Garage on 09/27/18 at 11:32:02


11021A07021404630 wrote:
[quote author=5046514C54414C57230 link=1538061470/0#7 date=1538065742]+ 3,000,000 votes... (with Trump aided by Russian interference)...


WOW......

With all the resources spent on finding that collusion, none have come to light....
Not even with the liberal affiliations of the incessant media pounding, or interference.

Thick as a brick.  
[/quote]

Hey there ray - it ain't over yet.

Watch and learn.

Title: Re: As bad as Trump is.......
Post by Serowbot on 09/27/18 at 12:07:53

If the FBI were a media outlet, we'd probably know more,... but they're not...
They don't keep the public up to date.

Trump should be thankful they don't... :-?

All we know is what the WH and Repub congress has leaked...

Title: Re: As bad as Trump is.......
Post by verslagen1 on 09/27/18 at 12:16:39


594748494459425F2D0 wrote:
[quote author=3A293E3F202D2B29227D4C0 link=1538061470/0#4 date=1538065482]As bad as Trump is... how bad do you have to be to loose to him?


It's a fact that hillary was the least popular democratic candidate in a long time.

However, she was still more popular than donny.

He did indeed win, but by the skin of his teeth. [/quote]
304 vs 227
That may not be popular with you but I wouldn't call it by the skin of his teeth either.

Title: Re: As bad as Trump is.......
Post by T And T Garage on 09/27/18 at 12:30:50


392A3D3C232E282A217E4F0 wrote:
[quote author=594748494459425F2D0 link=1538061470/0#12 date=1538073060][quote author=3A293E3F202D2B29227D4C0 link=1538061470/0#4 date=1538065482]As bad as Trump is... how bad do you have to be to loose to him?


It's a fact that hillary was the least popular democratic candidate in a long time.

However, she was still more popular than donny.

He did indeed win, but by the skin of his teeth. [/quote]
304 vs 227
That may not be popular with you but I wouldn't call it by the skin of his teeth either.[/quote]

Look at the actual vote count that gave trump the win.

The electoral is all or nothing per state.

Title: Re: As bad as Trump is.......
Post by hotrod on 09/27/18 at 12:53:24

What type of screwdrivers did the Russians use to adjust all the vote machines ?  Will they work on the Savage ?

Title: Re: As bad as Trump is.......
Post by verslagen1 on 09/27/18 at 13:36:12


627C73727F627964160 wrote:
[quote author=392A3D3C232E282A217E4F0 link=1538061470/15#15 date=1538075799][quote author=594748494459425F2D0 link=1538061470/0#12 date=1538073060][quote author=3A293E3F202D2B29227D4C0 link=1538061470/0#4 date=1538065482]As bad as Trump is... how bad do you have to be to loose to him?


It's a fact that hillary was the least popular democratic candidate in a long time.

However, she was still more popular than donny.

He did indeed win, but by the skin of his teeth. [/quote]
304 vs 227
That may not be popular with you but I wouldn't call it by the skin of his teeth either.[/quote]

Look at the actual vote count that gave trump the win.

The electoral is all or nothing per state.[/quote]

That is the actual electoral vote count.
And the rules applied for hillary the same way.
Whether you like it or not, he was smart enough to know which states are the most values.

Title: Re: As bad as Trump is.......
Post by LostArtist on 09/27/18 at 14:36:17


755C5050584F0C3D0 wrote:
What type of screwdrivers did the Russians use to adjust all the vote machines ?  Will they work on the Savage ?



only if you have the Ural sidecar hack.....

Title: Re: As bad as Trump is.......
Post by T And T Garage on 09/27/18 at 15:04:21


3A293E3F202D2B29227D4C0 wrote:
[quote author=627C73727F627964160 link=1538061470/15#16 date=1538076650][quote author=392A3D3C232E282A217E4F0 link=1538061470/15#15 date=1538075799][quote author=594748494459425F2D0 link=1538061470/0#12 date=1538073060][quote author=3A293E3F202D2B29227D4C0 link=1538061470/0#4 date=1538065482]As bad as Trump is... how bad do you have to be to loose to him?


It's a fact that hillary was the least popular democratic candidate in a long time.

However, she was still more popular than donny.

He did indeed win, but by the skin of his teeth. [/quote]
304 vs 227
That may not be popular with you but I wouldn't call it by the skin of his teeth either.[/quote]

Look at the actual vote count that gave trump the win.

The electoral is all or nothing per state.[/quote]

That is the actual electoral vote count.
And the rules applied for hillary the same way.
Whether you like it or not, he was smart enough to know which states are the most values.[/quote]

No vers, you misunderstand.  The actual votes cast for trump in the states that he won electorily was only a small margin above hillary.

Electoral votes are not the same as popular votes. (as witnesses in this election - hillary had nearly 3 million more than trump).

For example, the difference in Michigan was less than a quarter of a percent. PA was less than 1%.

This is the point I make.

Title: Re: As bad as Trump is.......
Post by verslagen1 on 09/27/18 at 15:39:42


4E505F5E534E55483A0 wrote:
[quote author=3A293E3F202D2B29227D4C0 link=1538061470/15#18 date=1538080572][quote author=627C73727F627964160 link=1538061470/15#16 date=1538076650][quote author=392A3D3C232E282A217E4F0 link=1538061470/15#15 date=1538075799][quote author=594748494459425F2D0 link=1538061470/0#12 date=1538073060][quote author=3A293E3F202D2B29227D4C0 link=1538061470/0#4 date=1538065482]As bad as Trump is... how bad do you have to be to loose to him?


It's a fact that hillary was the least popular democratic candidate in a long time.

However, she was still more popular than donny.

He did indeed win, but by the skin of his teeth. [/quote]
304 vs 227
That may not be popular with you but I wouldn't call it by the skin of his teeth either.[/quote]

Look at the actual vote count that gave trump the win.

The electoral is all or nothing per state.[/quote]

That is the actual electoral vote count.
And the rules applied for hillary the same way.
Whether you like it or not, he was smart enough to know which states are the most values.[/quote]

No vers, you misunderstand.  The actual votes cast for trump in the states that he won electorily was only a small margin above hillary.

Electoral votes are not the same as popular votes. (as witnesses in this election - hillary had nearly 3 million more than trump).

For example, the difference in Michigan was less than a quarter of a percent. PA was less than 1%.

This is the point I make.[/quote]

Why are you so obtuse to any one's opinion but your own?  Or was I too sly for you to understand?
Trump wasn't, he saw the value of certain states and went after them.  Even winning traditional blue states.  Come in out of the rain boy.

Title: Re: As bad as Trump is.......
Post by Matchless G11 on 09/27/18 at 16:29:44

With all this interference talk, I still don't understand what the Russians gained by Trump winning?

Seriously Hillary would have been so much better for them.


It is just a simple question, but no one wants to answer it.  :-?

Title: Re: As bad as Trump is.......
Post by T And T Garage on 09/27/18 at 16:45:49


3F2C3B3A25282E2C2778490 wrote:
Why are you so obtuse to any one's opinion but your own?  Or was I too sly for you to understand?
Trump wasn't, he saw the value of certain states and went after them.  Even winning traditional blue states.  Come in out of the rain boy.


Since when is being factual "obtuse"?

You presented that the vote was the electoral vote.  When in fact, the actually tally of votes per state told quite a different story.

And those states he "turned" are precisely the ones I'm talking about.

Oh, and don't call me "boy".

Title: Re: As bad as Trump is.......
Post by T And T Garage on 09/27/18 at 16:54:47


31282626707033243524222A727574410 wrote:
With all this interference talk, I still don't understand what the Russians gained by Trump winning?

Seriously Hillary would have been so much better for them.


It is just a simple question, but no one wants to answer it.  :-?


I think the disturbance was what they were after.  That's what they got.

They meddled enough to cause a little chaos.  But that's not all.


As to the actual charges that may be held against trump - that would include collusion and conspiring with a foreign government.

It's well known that trump got his most recent financing from the russians - his sons have said as much on the record.  It's a short trip from there to conspiring.

He is a massive narcissist and hypocrite.  He doesn't think he'll ever get caught on anything and if he does, he lies about it - and then doubles down on that same lie.  That's why we'll never see his taxes from the last 5 years.  That's why he tweets so much every single day.  It's all distraction and BS.

This too shall pass though.

Sorry for the rant- but it's more than a little frustrating....

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