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Message started by raydawg on 10/05/18 at 09:06:54

Title: Proving your point......
Post by raydawg on 10/05/18 at 09:06:54

I'm guessing here, however, at my ripe old age of 65, I think I can safely make the assumption if you have to resort to such, instead of presenting your POV and beliefs coherently, and in a manner that wins over converts, then......
Then you really have deeper seated issues, that are being marketed under another issue, looking for affirmation, belonging, camaraderie, acceptance, and its just a avenue you believe to attain it.
I dare say, its not.

https://www.foxnews.com/world/hairstylist-seen-in-video-kicking-pro-life-demonstrator-loses-job-may-face-charges

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by Eegore on 10/05/18 at 09:53:46


 It works both ways.  Near me 3 people were killed at an abortion clinic by a pro-life extremist.  

https://www.prochoiceamerica.org/issue/anti-abortion-violence/

 Coverage seems to lean more towards pro-choice victims from what I have seen.  I think a part of that is because pro-choice indicates more personal freedom where pro-life indicates less personal freedom.  

 Violence is wrong both ways, I don't much care who the victim is, or if it ever ends up in the news.

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by oldNslow on 10/05/18 at 12:03:43


Quote:
pro-choice indicates more personal freedom where pro-life indicates less personal freedom.  


the prohibition against murder indicates less personal freedom also;  it restricts the personal freedom to just up and kill someone on account of you don't like them. Probably ought to get rid of that one too , huh?

There may be legitimate arguments on both sides of the abortion debate but "personal freedom" isn't one of them. It's just a red herring tossed out there to avoid talking about what the debate is really about.


Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by T And T Garage on 10/05/18 at 12:19:08


6957565A4854553B0 wrote:

Quote:
pro-choice indicates more personal freedom where pro-life indicates less personal freedom.  


the prohibition against murder indicates less personal freedom also;  it restricts the personal freedom to just up and kill someone on account of you don't like them. Probably ought to get rid of that one too , huh?

There may be legitimate arguments on both sides of the abortion debate but "personal freedom" isn't one of them. It's just a red herring tossed out there to avoid talking about what the debate is really about.


If choosing what you do with your own body isn't a personal freedom, then what is?

You are not a woman I take it?

What gives anyone the right to tell someone else what to do with their own body?

If Roe V. Wade was overturned and it was determined that life begins at conception, do we arrest moms who smoke and drink (without knowing for sometimes up to two months after conception) for child endangerment??

Slippery slope ahead....

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by MnSpring on 10/05/18 at 12:52:08


283639383528332E5C0 wrote:
You are not a woman I take it?

Is that a he or a she saying that ?

What gives anyone the right to tell someone else what to do with their own body?

WOW, ya mean I can sell a Kidney !!!!!!
Got two,  only need one.

Bless your Heart tt



Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by raydawg on 10/05/18 at 12:56:20

Gawd don't you just love the argument that because you are NOT a woman you are disqualified from any input on the matter....
And you are told this by another MAN ( er, I think )  ;D

Oh, oh, since I ain't black, I can't tell you its wrong to have a slave, er, gotcha  ;D

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by T And T Garage on 10/05/18 at 12:56:34


61427F5C5E45424B2C0 wrote:
[quote author=283639383528332E5C0 link=1538755614/0#3 date=1538767148] You are not a woman I take it?

Is that a he or a she saying that ?

I'm a male.  A he, mn.  Does that answer your question?

What gives anyone the right to tell someone else what to do with their own body?

WOW, ya mean I can sell a Kidney !!!!!!
Got two,  only need one.

Yes, actually you can if you want to.  Did you not know that?  You can cut off your hand and sell it if anyone would buy it.

Bless your Heart tt

Thanks mn - I see that you lack originality and are reverting to my salutation (lots of big words there mn, you better look them up).

Good for you.  Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery!
:D

[/quote]

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by T And T Garage on 10/05/18 at 12:58:48


70637B66637565020 wrote:
Gawd don't you just love the argument that because you are NOT a woman you are disqualified from any input on the matter....
And you are told this by another MAN ( er, I think )  ;D

Hey ray, try to pay attention.. My exact quote was - What gives anyone the right to tell someone else what to do with their own body?

I didn't specify men only on purpose.  You may want to brush up on your comprehension skills and slow down a bit.

Oh, oh, since I ain't black, I can't tell you its wrong to have a slave, er, gotcha  ;D


You keep stinking it up... you go ray!!

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by raydawg on 10/05/18 at 13:10:41

OMG.......

a personal insult.

resist  ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by T And T Garage on 10/05/18 at 13:14:07


64776F72776171160 wrote:
OMG.......

a personal insult.

resist  ;D ;D ;D


Well ray, I must call them like I see them.

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by MnSpring on 10/05/18 at 13:50:30


362827262B362D30420 wrote:
Yes, actually you can if you want to.  Did you not know that?

Yep tt, you can take that gun you say you have, out of your safe, load it, open your door, and shoot the next person you see.
What, you did NOT know that !

Absolutely Incredible SPIN, on your answer.

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by oldNslow on 10/05/18 at 13:57:00


Quote:
If ... it was determined that life begins at conception..


So, apparently you do understand what the fundamental question is, and that it really has nothing to do with "personal freedom" ?


Quote:
You are not a woman I take it?



I was born a male, and have lived my life as one, but as I understand things  now, I don't necessarily have to be one right now, or tomorrow, or some other time that I'd rather be a  woman,or something else even. Perhaps a tree? Or a chipmunk. And don't you dare tell me I'm not whatever I say I am. "Personal freedom" dontcha know?


Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by T And T Garage on 10/05/18 at 14:31:22


15360B282A31363F580 wrote:
[quote author=362827262B362D30420 link=1538755614/0#6 date=1538769394]Yes, actually you can if you want to.  Did you not know that?

Yep tt, you can take that gun you say you have, out of your safe, load it, open your door, and shoot the next person you see.
What, you did NOT know that !

No mn, you can't.  One is self mutilation, the other is murder.  Surely you can't be that foolish to confuse the two, can you?

Absolutely Incredible SPIN, on your answer.
[/quote]
You asked a silly question, I gave you an actual answer.  What you do with information is your own.  But if you're going to sell your own kidney, I suggest you get a friend to cut it out of you - they would have a better viewing angle than you could on your own.
:D

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by T And T Garage on 10/05/18 at 14:38:41


0E30313D2F33325C0 wrote:

Quote:
If ... it was determined that life begins at conception..


So, apparently you do understand what the fundamental question is, and that it really has nothing to do with "personal freedom" ?

Actually old, it has everything to do with personal freedom.  It is not anyone's body except the woman's.  

What if "the powers that be" came out and said that sperm represented life and that "discharging" outside of intercourse was illegal and "ended potential life"?  Millions of boys and their socks would be arrested!!  :D

Silly proposition I know, but no more silly than trying to equate conception with life.

[quote] You are not a woman I take it?


I was born a male, and have lived my life as one, but as I understand things  now, I don't necessarily have to be one right now, or tomorrow, or some other time that I'd rather be a  woman,or something else even. Perhaps a tree? Or a chipmunk. And don't you dare tell me I'm not whatever I say I am. "Personal freedom" dontcha know?
[/quote]

Yeah, use an extreme example to belittle those who are different than you...

I don't know about you, but I never had a choice in my sexuality.  Therefore, I assume that nobody else did either.

I simply don't care how someone identifies themselves.  It doesn't change who I am.  I don't feel threatened enough to make fun of them.  

Give it a rest.  Live and let live.

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by Matchless G11 on 10/05/18 at 14:57:49

 

Give it a rest.  Live and let live.[/color][/quote]



"Does that go for the unborn too?"

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by raydawg on 10/05/18 at 15:01:16


6F51505C4E52533D0 wrote:

Quote:
If ... it was determined that life begins at conception..


So, apparently you do understand what the fundamental question is, and that it really has nothing to do with "personal freedom" ?

[quote] You are not a woman I take it?


WAAAAAAAAAAY over his head  ;D


I was born a male, and have lived my life as one, but as I understand things  now, I don't necessarily have to be one right now, or tomorrow, or some other time that I'd rather be a  woman,or something else even. Perhaps a tree? Or a chipmunk. And don't you dare tell me I'm not whatever I say I am. "Personal freedom" dontcha know?

[/quote]

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by T And T Garage on 10/05/18 at 15:04:52


3B222C2C7A7A392E3F2E2820787F7E4B0 wrote:
 

Give it a rest.  Live and let live.


"Does that go for the unborn too?"



To what degree?  When does life begin?  If you say "at conception" there is no way to determine when that is.  If you say anywhere between one and (about) four months, the fetus can not sustain itself outside the mother.

Slippery slope...

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by T And T Garage on 10/05/18 at 15:06:47


45564E53564050370 wrote:
[quote author=6F51505C4E52533D0 link=1538755614/0#11 date=1538773020]
Quote:
If ... it was determined that life begins at conception..


So, apparently you do understand what the fundamental question is, and that it really has nothing to do with "personal freedom" ?

[quote] You are not a woman I take it?


WAAAAAAAAAAY over his head  ;D


[/quote]


(sniff sniff)

Yep, I smell ray... still stinking it up.

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by MnSpring on 10/05/18 at 15:14:11


657B747578657E63110 wrote:
 Yeah, use an extreme example to belittle those who are different than you...

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

 What a statement !!!

Exactly, what color,
did the pot call the kettle ?


;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by T And T Garage on 10/05/18 at 15:15:50


13300D2E2C3730395E0 wrote:
[quote author=657B747578657E63110 link=1538755614/0#13 date=1538775521]  Yeah, use an extreme example to belittle those who are different than you...

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

 What a statement !!!

Exactly, what color,
did the pot call the kettle ?


;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D
[/quote]


Wait, have I belittled you mn?  Are you feeling hurt by what I've typed?

Do you need a cookie and a nap?

Bless your heart.

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by MnSpring on 10/05/18 at 15:25:50


352B242528352E33410 wrote:
To what degree?  When does life begin?  If you say "at conception" there is no way to determine when that is.  


"...there is no way to determine when that is...."
(Time of Conception)

Here is a little tidbit, which is Biology 101.
(Perhaps you were taking a nap when that lecture occurred)

"...Conception occurs when a woman’s egg meets a man’s sperm, and the two melt together to form the first cell in a new human being. This is familiar knowledge to most of us..."

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by T And T Garage on 10/05/18 at 15:31:48


4D6E537072696E67000 wrote:
[quote author=352B242528352E33410 link=1538755614/15#16 date=1538777092]To what degree?  When does life begin?  If you say "at conception" there is no way to determine when that is.  


"...there is no way to determine when that is...."
(Time of Conception)

Here is a little tidbit, which is Biology 101.
(Perhaps you were taking a nap when that lecture occurred)

"...Conception occurs when a woman’s egg meets a man’s sperm, and the two melt together to form the first cell in a new human being. This is familiar knowledge to most of us..."
[/quote]

LOL - wow... just wow....   ;D ;D ;D

Well, it's obvious you have no idea what I'm talking about....

Looks like I gotta explain....sheesh


When I say that we don't know when conception happens, I'm not talking biologically.  I'm talking physically.

There are no "signs" that tell a woman that she's just conceived.  A woman can go weeks, sometimes months without knowing.

How can you possibly not know that?  How old are you?  Have you ever actually been with a woman??

SMH

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by T And T Garage on 10/05/18 at 15:32:32

Well that just made my weekend!!
:D :D :D

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by MnSpring on 10/05/18 at 15:42:04


223C33323F223924560 wrote:
Well that just made my weekend!!
:D :D :D

Your Welcome.
So glad you get such a kick out of, ’Spinning’, a answer.

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/05/18 at 16:24:53

He's THE most dishonest I've seen.
I argued with him for three days, while I exposed  the lies of CNN, and he kept pretending that was really my way of supporting CNN.
I don't spend much energy on him anymore. I just let him have the last word, he's not important.

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by T And T Garage on 10/05/18 at 17:10:51


74576A494B50575E390 wrote:
[quote author=223C33323F223924560 link=1538755614/15#22 date=1538778752]Well that just made my weekend!!
:D :D :D

Your Welcome.
So glad you get such a kick out of, ’Spinning’, a answer.
[/quote]

So, setting you straight is "spinning"?

No, it's more like dropping the mic.  Come to peace with it.

Bless your heart...

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by T And T Garage on 10/05/18 at 17:12:31


5D4244435E5968586850424E05370 wrote:
He's THE most dishonest I've seen.

What was I dishonest about on this post jog?

Gee, I didn't know you'd be so sensitive.

Have a cookie and a nap, huh?


I argued with him for three days, while I exposed  the lies of CNN, and he kept pretending that was really my way of supporting CNN.
I don't spend much energy on him anymore. I just let him have the last word, he's not important.


Aww, thanks jog....

That makes my weekend too!!

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by Matchless G11 on 10/06/18 at 03:45:59

I guess mr Round house kick was in other news.

https://www.lifenews.com/2018/10/05/before-he-assaulted-a-pro-lifer-and-before-i-became-pregnant-by-rape-jordan-hunt-was-my-friend/


Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/06/18 at 05:52:36

That's quite the story.
He's a P.O.S.

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by MnSpring on 10/06/18 at 07:47:03


48515F5F09094A5D4C5D5B530B0C0D380 wrote:
I guess mr Round house kick was in other news.
https://www.lifenews.com/2018/10/05/before-he-assaulted-a-pro-lifer-and-before-i-became-pregnant-by-rape-jordan-hunt-was-my-friend/


That IS, a great Story !

Only problem is a, his punishment a will probably be picking up garbage a, for a hour a day a, for a week a.


Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/06/18 at 10:20:38


796768696479627F0D0 wrote:
[quote author=4D6E537072696E67000 link=1538755614/15#20 date=1538778350][quote author=352B242528352E33410 link=1538755614/15#16 date=1538777092]To what degree?  When does life begin?  If you say "at conception" there is no way to determine when that is.  


"...there is no way to determine when that is...."
(Time of Conception)

Here is a little tidbit, which is Biology 101.
(Perhaps you were taking a nap when that lecture occurred)

"...Conception occurs when a woman’s egg meets a man’s sperm, and the two melt together to form the first cell in a new human being. This is familiar knowledge to most of us..."
[/quote]

LOL - wow... just wow....   ;D ;D ;D

Well, it's obvious you have no idea what I'm talking about....

Looks like I gotta explain....sheesh


When I say that we don't know when conception happens, I'm not talking biologically.  I'm talking physically.

There are no "signs" that tell a woman that she's just conceived.  A woman can go weeks, sometimes months without knowing.

How can you possibly not know that?  How old are you?  Have you ever actually been with a woman??

SMH[/quote]

That nobody has a sign that pops up when egg and sperm meet is a given.
Your using that moment of conception being unknown, and expecting others to not be confused by it is so like you.
WTF would you say that for?
Of COURSE nobody knows. So what?
Why is that relevant? It's something doctors can calculate, approximately, by the baby's development, but nobody knows the exact second the baby was conceived and life began.

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by T And T Garage on 10/06/18 at 13:22:53


213E383F22251424142C3E32794B0 wrote:
That nobody has a sign that pops up when egg and sperm meet is a given.

Yeah, I know jog - that's my point.  Some folks don't seem to get that.

Your using that moment of conception being unknown, and expecting others to not be confused by it is so like you.

Oh boo fricken hoo... What else would I/could I possibly be talking about?  If you can't figure that out from context, that's not my problem - well, then again, the same person can't distinguish between "there", "their" and "they're" so....

WTF would you say that for?

See above.  This isn't grade school.

Of COURSE nobody knows. So what?

SO??? Well jog, if you haven't been paying attention to anyone talking about how abortion is "killing babies" then I can't help you.

The entire argument hinges on when life begins.

Try to pay attention.

Why is that relevant? It's something doctors can calculate, approximately, by the baby's development, but nobody knows the exact second the baby was conceived and life began.


Yeah - EXACTLY!!



Consider yourself "taken apart".



Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/06/18 at 13:44:04

Life begins at the moment the egg is fertilized.
After that
You're KILLING a living being.
Next question.

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by T And T Garage on 10/07/18 at 07:33:20


5A454344595E6F5F6F57454902300 wrote:
Life begins at the moment the egg is fertilized.

Really?  How can you prove when that happens?  How is a woman supposed to know?  You see, if you outlaw abortion, and when you say that life begins at conception, a woman could be charged with child endangerment/murder if she smokes/drinks or does something that induces a miscarriage.

After that
You're KILLING a living being.
Next question.


No, you're not.  There is no question.

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by WebsterMark on 10/07/18 at 07:46:56

Of course life begins at conception. There's no scientific debate about that.
The debate occurs wheen you change the meaning of "life" to something different so you've got somee wiggle room.

I wish the pro choice crowd would just be honest and say you think it's okay to take a life for the convenience of the mother and/or father. Just be honest and say that. Stop looking stupid by arguing when life begins.

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by T And T Garage on 10/07/18 at 09:54:50


605255444352457A56455C370 wrote:
Of course life begins at conception. There's no scientific debate about that.

Yes mark, there is.  In fact, that's the crux of the debate.

The debate occurs wheen you change the meaning of "life" to something different so you've got somee wiggle room.

I wish the pro choice crowd would just be honest and say you think it's okay to take a life for the convenience of the mother and/or father. Just be honest and say that. Stop looking stupid by arguing when life begins.

No, that's not what it's about.  If you had a daughter and her life was endangered by her pregnancy, you want to tell me that you would choose a fetus over her?

Please....

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by MnSpring on 10/07/18 at 10:22:05


2C353B3B6D6D2E3928393F376F68695C0 wrote:
I guess mr Round house kick was in other news.https://www.lifenews.com/2018/10/05/before-he-assaulted-a-pro-lifer-and-before-i-became-pregnant-by-rape-jordan-hunt-was-my-friend/

This was so powerful.
Had to read it again.
Last night thinking about it, remembering the two most ’telling’ statements.

“…She told me that although she couldn’t tell me what to do, she would offer support regardless…”
“…how pro-life people gave me hope and took care of me and my baby…”

This was, Pro-Life people.

Not the, Anti-Life people.
“… how pro-choice people were only giving me one choice — abortion. …”

And this is  Canada, much, Much, MUCH, more Liberal than the US.

So interesting that in this case, the, 'pro-"Choice",
were NOT, "Choice".






Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by raydawg on 10/07/18 at 10:34:42

Who was ever denied a abortion, upon medical welfare of the mother, at the consent of a doctor?

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/07/18 at 12:32:38

Attention Goalpost Keeper
Please be advised that you must move them once again, in order to accommodate the most intellectually dishonest amongst us.

Once again you conflate the dissimilar.
Abortion on demand, as birth control
Versus
Life saving

And you want to be taken seriously,,

, that's not what it's about.  If you had a daughter and her life was endangered by her pregnancy, you want to tell me that you would choose a fetus over her?

Go slap yourself.
That's not the issue and nobody I've ever known has pretended that watching one die because they couldn't get an abortion was reasonable.
You're proving my point.
Troll

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by T And T Garage on 10/07/18 at 14:53:01


46554D50554353340 wrote:
Who was ever denied a abortion, upon medical welfare of the mother, at the consent of a doctor?



No one that I know of..... yet.

But repeal Roe V. Wade and watch what happens.

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by T And T Garage on 10/07/18 at 14:55:47


3D2224233E3908380830222E65570 wrote:
Attention Goalpost Keeper
Please be advised that you must move them once again, in order to accommodate the most intellectually dishonest amongst us.

Once again you conflate the dissimilar.
Abortion on demand, as birth control
Versus
Life saving

And you want to be taken seriously,,

, that's not what it's about.  If you had a daughter and her life was endangered by her pregnancy, you want to tell me that you would choose a fetus over her?

Go slap yourself.
That's not the issue and nobody I've ever known has pretended that watching one die because they couldn't get an abortion was reasonable.
You're proving my point.
Troll


Are you referring to me jog?

If so - Awesome!

I am so under your skin that you have to call me out.

If I bother you that much - that speaks volumes!

Keep name calling!  Keep getting all upset and losing your cool.

Hey - feel free to send me PMs to tell me how wrong I am!

Thanks!
:D

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by raydawg on 10/07/18 at 15:05:53


534D42434E534855270 wrote:
[quote author=46554D50554353340 link=1538755614/30#37 date=1538933682]Who was ever denied a abortion, upon medical welfare of the mother, at the consent of a doctor?



No one that I know of..... yet.

But repeal Roe V. Wade and watch what happens.[/quote]

fail.

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/07/18 at 16:03:31

I've never sent you a pm
I demonstrate how wrong you are here
And you pretend it's nothing
You're not worth the time

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by T And T Garage on 10/07/18 at 19:55:18


2B38203D382E3E590 wrote:
[quote author=534D42434E534855270 link=1538755614/30#39 date=1538949181][quote author=46554D50554353340 link=1538755614/30#37 date=1538933682]Who was ever denied a abortion, upon medical welfare of the mother, at the consent of a doctor?



No one that I know of..... yet.

But repeal Roe V. Wade and watch what happens.[/quote]

fail.
[/quote]

Wow... what a debate!!!

SMH

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by T And T Garage on 10/07/18 at 19:57:53


716E686F72754474447C6E62291B0 wrote:
I've never sent you a pm
I demonstrate how wrong you are here
And you pretend it's nothing
You're not worth the time


You sure about that?  You sure you want to use the word "never" here jog?

You may regret that.

The only thing that's "wrong" is how much of your life you live/waste on here.

45 thousand posts jog...

Who the he!! are you to tell anyone what's right and wrong??

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/08/18 at 00:52:19

If I did, I don't remember it.


Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/08/18 at 02:31:28

Who the he!! are you to tell anyone what's right and wrong


I'm just a guy who honestly analyzes the events and corrects people like you.

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by WebsterMark on 10/08/18 at 06:03:53


352B242528352E33410 wrote:
[quote author=716E686F72754474447C6E62291B0 link=1538755614/30#42 date=1538953411]I've never sent you a pm
I demonstrate how wrong you are here
And you pretend it's nothing
You're not worth the time


You sure about that?  You sure you want to use the word "never" here jog?

You may regret that.

The only thing that's "wrong" is how much of your life you live/waste on here.

45 thousand posts jog...

Who the he!! are you to tell anyone what's right and wrong??[/quote]

Interesting.

TT      706 days, 7.21 per day
Jog     4079 days. 11.2 per day
Web    3706.  1.9 per day

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by T And T Garage on 10/08/18 at 06:52:38


726D6B6C71764777477F6D612A180 wrote:
If I did, I don't remember it.

Yeah, you have convenient amnesia...

Whatever works for you.

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by T And T Garage on 10/08/18 at 06:54:48


033136272031261935263F540 wrote:
[quote author=352B242528352E33410 link=1538755614/30#44 date=1538967473][quote author=716E686F72754474447C6E62291B0 link=1538755614/30#42 date=1538953411]I've never sent you a pm
I demonstrate how wrong you are here
And you pretend it's nothing
You're not worth the time


You sure about that?  You sure you want to use the word "never" here jog?

You may regret that.

The only thing that's "wrong" is how much of your life you live/waste on here.

45 thousand posts jog...

Who the he!! are you to tell anyone what's right and wrong??[/quote]

Interesting.

TT      706 days, 7.21 per day
Jog     4079 days. 11.2 per day
Web    3706.  1.9 per day[/quote]

Isn't it?

Even for as much as I've been posting lately, it doesn't even come close to what jog has "accomplished".



Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by MnSpring on 10/08/18 at 07:30:29


160807060B160D10620 wrote:
  Even for as much as I've been posting lately, it doesn't even come close to what jog has "accomplished".


That's pure TROLL  101.


You got Slapped, for posting a PM.
So you know, you can't, 'post', it.
So you can say anything about anyone, sending you a PM, and it’s contents.
(Guess you learned how to do that from the Kavanau hearing)

Next you berate someone for the number of posts.
Cheese and Rice, that is just pure TROLL 101.

I don't need a PM to tell you your posts,
are pure, typical, text book, TROLL.


Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by WebsterMark on 10/08/18 at 07:35:10

This is a useful distraction when I'm working from home, like this week. It's an insight into the mind of leftists who, as I've said, are people I rarely run into in the real world.

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by MnSpring on 10/08/18 at 07:44:31


5E6C6B7A7D6C7B44687B62090 wrote:
This is a useful distraction when I'm working from home, like this week. It's an insight into the mind of leftists who, as I've said, are people I rarely run into in the real world.

Well WM, you have to realize,
the people you normally encounter at, ‘work’, work.

They don’t stand in the street and cry,
with their hand out,
saying, Gimme, Gimme, Gimme.


Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by T And T Garage on 10/08/18 at 09:31:18


62417C5F5D4641482F0 wrote:
[quote author=160807060B160D10620 link=1538755614/45#49 date=1539006888]   Even for as much as I've been posting lately, it doesn't even come close to what jog has "accomplished".


That's pure TROLL  101.


You got Slapped, for posting a PM.
So you know, you can't, 'post', it.

Huh?  What's that got to do with number of posts mn?  Are you trying to make a point?

So you can say anything about anyone, sending you a PM, and it’s contents.
(Guess you learned how to do that from the Kavanau hearing)

Again, you lost me - is there a point?

Next you berate someone for the number of posts.
Cheese and Rice, that is just pure TROLL 101.

No, it's just facts on facts...

I don't need a PM to tell you your posts,
are pure, typical, text book, TROLL.
[/quote]

PMs have nothing to do with post counts... seriously, do you have a point?

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by T And T Garage on 10/08/18 at 09:34:36


0D3F38292E3F28173B28315A0 wrote:
This is a useful distraction when I'm working from home, like this week. It's an insight into the mind of leftists who, as I've said, are people I rarely run into in the real world.


In your world, sure.  Not the world in general.

And the righties I have in my life are way more level headed than the ones on here.

They realize that trump is an albatross and just a few tweets away from totally decimating the republican party.

Meanwhile, on here, the 4 or 5 of the conservatives live in a bubble of their own creation.

For me, this is entertainment and an actual resource for my bobber build.  When we're finished with it, I guess I'll move on.

The others that will remain... well, it's kinda sad actually.

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/08/18 at 09:49:25

Takes quite a few posts to counter and correct the ignorance and hypocrisy of you lefties.

And I actually contribute to the board, trying to help out.

45,000 is low. My account died, and I became
Jog1,
Died again
Jog2

No telling how many posts were lost.
The TT didn't exist in the early days.
I kept polluting the Cafe with odds and ends until the moderators decided to create a dark corner for me to stir up trouble in.

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by WebsterMark on 10/08/18 at 09:51:40

For me, this is entertainment and an actual resource for my bobber build.  When we're finished with it, I guess I'll move on.

No you won't.

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by T And T Garage on 10/08/18 at 09:59:17


342B2D2A3730013101392B276C5E0 wrote:
Takes quite a few posts to counter and correct the ignorance and hypocrisy of you lefties.

Oh yeah, that's it... lol

And I actually contribute to the board, trying to help out.

45,000 is low. My account died, and I became
Jog1,
Died again
Jog2

That just makes the story even more sad.

No telling how many posts were lost.
The TT didn't exist in the early days.
I kept polluting the Cafe with odds and ends until the moderators decided to create a dark corner for me to stir up trouble in.


Yeah... so great....

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by T And T Garage on 10/08/18 at 10:00:32


152720313627300F233029420 wrote:
For me, this is entertainment and an actual resource for my bobber build.  When we're finished with it, I guess I'll move on.

No you won't.



LOL - seriously mark - I just love how you think you know me.

Seriously though, I guess that makes you feel better.  Whatever it takes I guess... :D

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/08/18 at 10:02:01

Prove him wrong, soon....

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by T And T Garage on 10/08/18 at 10:09:00


627D7B7C61665767576F7D713A080 wrote:
Prove him wrong, soon....



Oh, how?  When?

You tired of me "messing up the TT"?

:D

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by WebsterMark on 10/08/18 at 10:18:45

You did ruin the Tall Table but it is what it is at this point.

And no, you won't leave when your bobber project is over. And frankly, I don't what you to. As I said, I rarely run into people like you and you're the only leftist who answers on here regularly. What you need is someone to help you. Not Sew, he's not regular enough. Not Eau, he's ....well, he's just to much of something else.

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by T And T Garage on 10/08/18 at 13:59:26


457770616677605F736079120 wrote:
You did ruin the Tall Table but it is what it is at this point.

LOL - you know mark, there's a whole history of TT long before I joined and everyone can see what it is and how you cons conducted yourselves.

I improved the TT, not ruined.

And no, you won't leave when your bobber project is over. And frankly, I don't what you to. As I said, I rarely run into people like you and you're the only leftist who answers on here regularly. What you need is someone to help you. Not Sew, he's not regular enough. Not Eau, he's ....well, he's just to much of something else.


No, I will.  Because I realize that this group of - what, 9 or so people is nothing more than a time suck.  The other forums at least have some value to our bobber build.

But once we're done, that'll be it - unless we run into a problem.

But as for the TT, I think after the midterms I'll of had my fill.

You really don't know me at all mark.

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by LostArtist on 10/08/18 at 14:22:39


253B343538253E23510 wrote:
[quote author=457770616677605F736079120 link=1538755614/60#61 date=1539019125]You did ruin the Tall Table but it is what it is at this point.

LOL - you know mark, there's a whole history of TT long before I joined and everyone can see what it is and how you cons conducted yourselves.

I improved the TT, not ruined.

Absolutely!



And no, you won't leave when your bobber project is over. And frankly, I don't what you to. As I said, I rarely run into people like you and you're the only leftist who answers on here regularly. What you need is someone to help you. Not Sew, he's not regular enough. Not Eau, he's ....well, he's just to much of something else.


No, I will.  Because I realize that this group of - what, 9 or so people is nothing more than a time suck.  The other forums at least have some value to our bobber build.

But once we're done, that'll be it - unless we run into a problem.

But as for the TT, I think after the midterms I'll of had my fill.

You really don't know me at all mark.[/quote]


I don't know why I bother here anymore, I know I've been a bit over the top today, but why do I bother here? It is a good way to kill time ... sometimes, but I'm sure I can find better ... time to start looking again

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by LostArtist on 10/08/18 at 14:25:50


160807060B160D10620 wrote:
[quote author=342B2D2A3730013101392B276C5E0 link=1538755614/45#55 date=1539017365]Takes quite a few posts to counter and correct the ignorance and hypocrisy of you lefties.

Oh yeah, that's it... lol

And I actually contribute to the board, trying to help out.

you try to help out?? not on the the TT you don't, you vent here. but maybe on other parts of the board you do, hopefully you're better there than you are here.



45,000 is low. My account died, and I became
Jog1,
Died again
Jog2

That just makes the story even more sad.

No telling how many posts were lost.
The TT didn't exist in the early days.
I kept polluting the Cafe with odds and ends until the moderators decided to create a dark corner for me to stir up trouble in.


oh, so you're the one that started this mess.....  figures...


Yeah... so great....
[/quote]

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by WebsterMark on 10/08/18 at 14:53:34

You really don't know me at all mark.

I know everything about you.

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by T And T Garage on 10/08/18 at 15:28:55


437176676071665975667F140 wrote:
You really don't know me at all mark.

I know everything about you.



OK then, what's my name?

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by T And T Garage on 10/08/18 at 15:33:42


6B595E4F48594E715D4E573C0 wrote:
You really don't know me at all mark.

I know everything about you.



You see, there's a difference between, "knowing everything about someone" and "knowing who they are".

As in - I know who you are mark.  I know the kind of person you are.  That has nothing to do with your name, your address or where you grew up.

It means, I know what to expect in debate.  I know (for the most part) what position you'll take.  I know who you support.

I know your type.  I've seen it a hundred times.

Nothing shocking.  Nothing I can't handle - either here or in real life.

Now, you might think you know me as I explained above, but you have no idea who I am.

Title: Re: Proving your point......y
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/08/18 at 15:58:22

TT proved what he is a long time ago.
Screwed the place up.
I used to explain things.
Why bother when someone is just gonna stomp through, distract and destroy.
Please, get done and gone.
Why such a great man as yourself would bother to be here, as many times as you have pointed out how unimportant we are, just seems strange.
This place was much different before your Trollass showed up.

Title: Re: Proving your point......y
Post by T And T Garage on 10/08/18 at 16:40:22


46595F5845427343734B59551E2C0 wrote:
TT proved what he is a long time ago.
Screwed the place up.

Hey jog, not everyone is as dumb as you want them to be,  It's a simple thing to go back and see the load of bu11shit you layed on everyone since day 1 of the TT.

I used to explain things.
Why bother when someone is just gonna stomp through, distract and destroy.

Ha!!  You've been a purveyor of conspiracy theories, conservative talking points and outright insults for forever on the TT.

Did you forget how "well" you treated North Country Girl?

Yeah jog - I got your number... I know who you are.

Please, get done and gone.

When I'm good and ready.  Not a moment sooner or later.

Why such a great man as yourself would bother to be here, as many times as you have pointed out how unimportant we are, just seems strange.

Someone's gotta show others the truth and point out the hypocrisy.  It sure isn't gonna be you.  Your piles are stacked high!!

This place was much different before your Trollass showed up.


No, it was just the same.  Except now, you're getting put in your place.

Now, don't start crying... I'd hate to have you labeled a "snowflake"...

Title: Re: Proving your point......y
Post by MnSpring on 10/08/18 at 16:50:11


4A545B5A574A514C3E0 wrote:
Someone's gotta show others the truth and point out the hypocrisy.


Sounds a lot like:
"You Must Believe What I say,
Or Your A ...........


;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by MnSpring on 10/08/18 at 16:55:56


7D636C6D607D667B090 wrote:
But as for the TT, I think after the midterms I'll of had my fill.

Could their be another reason, you will be leaving in 5 +/- weeks ?

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by raydawg on 10/08/18 at 17:51:06


51724F6C6E75727B1C0 wrote:
[quote author=7D636C6D607D667B090 link=1538755614/60#62 date=1539032366]
But as for the TT, I think after the midterms I'll of had my fill.

Could their be another reason, you will be leaving in 5 +/- weeks ?
[/quote]

Gee, really, I thought he was full of it, long age  ::)

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by WebsterMark on 10/08/18 at 18:08:12


263837363B263D20520 wrote:
[quote author=6B595E4F48594E715D4E573C0 link=1538755614/60#65 date=1539035614]You really don't know me at all TT.

I know everything about you.



You see, there's a difference between, "knowing everything about someone" and "knowing who they are".

As in - I know who you are TT. I know the kind of person you are.  That has nothing to do with your name, your address or where you grew up.

It means, I know what to expect in debate.  I know (for the most part) what position you'll take.  I know who you support.

I know your type.  I've seen it a hundred thousand times.

Nothing shocking.  Nothing I can't handle - either here or in real life.

Now, you might think you know me as I explained above, but you have no idea who I am TT.[/quote]

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by WebsterMark on 10/08/18 at 18:10:00


45665B787A61666F080 wrote:
[quote author=7D636C6D607D667B090 link=1538755614/60#62 date=1539032366]
But as for the TT, I think after the midterms I'll of had my fill.

Could their be another reason, you will be leaving in 5 +/- weeks ?
[/quote]

He's not leaving. He'll keep up with what's going on. It's likely he'll fake a new profile and assume a new identity.

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/08/18 at 18:14:03

's likely he'll fake a new profile and assume a new identity.

If I tried that, I'd be busted in minutes.
TT can't cloak himself either.

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by oldNslow on 10/08/18 at 18:37:58


Quote:
Someone's gotta show others the truth ...[


Narcissistic personality disorder.

You know. Same thing all the anti Trumpers  and conservative haters  are convinced that the POTUS and anyone who leans right ( politically speaking) is afflicted with.

Mirror Mirror, on the wall.

Funny how that sh*t works.




Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by LostArtist on 10/08/18 at 18:39:16


714F4E42504C4D230 wrote:
[quote]Someone's gotta show others the truth ...[/quote]

Narcissistic personality disorder.

You know. Same thing all the anti Trumpers  and conservative haters  are convinced that the POTUS and anyone who leans right ( politically speaking) is afflicted with.

Mirror Mirror, on the wall.

Funny how that sh*t works.






well we all know you're an expert on how sh*t works.....  

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by oldNslow on 10/08/18 at 18:43:59


Quote:
well we all know you're an expert on how sh*t works.....  


Actually I am. I earned my livelihood - a very good one - by making sh*t that didn't work - or had  stopped working - work again.

So if you want to try to insult me you're going to need to do better than that :)

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by raydawg on 10/08/18 at 19:21:17


132126373021360925362F440 wrote:
[quote author=45665B787A61666F080 link=1538755614/60#71 date=1539042956][quote author=7D636C6D607D667B090 link=1538755614/60#62 date=1539032366]
But as for the TT, I think after the midterms I'll of had my fill.

Could their be another reason, you will be leaving in 5 +/- weeks ?
[/quote]

He's not leaving. He'll keep up with what's going on. It's likely he'll fake a new profile and assume a new identity.[/quote]

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1538701383

Title: Re: Proving your point......y
Post by T And T Garage on 10/08/18 at 19:23:55


5675486B6972757C1B0 wrote:
[quote author=4A545B5A574A514C3E0 link=1538755614/60#69 date=1539042022]Someone's gotta show others the truth and point out the hypocrisy.


Sounds a lot like:
"You Must Believe What I say,
Or Your A ...........


;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
[/quote]


Not al all mn.  I'm just pointing out hypocrisy.  Like how all you cons got all up in arms about the amount of golf Obama played, but it's totally cool that trumpster plays about twice as much...

You know, like that.  There's nothing to "believe". A fact is a fact.

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by T And T Garage on 10/08/18 at 19:24:39


62417C5F5D4641482F0 wrote:
[quote author=7D636C6D607D667B090 link=1538755614/60#62 date=1539032366]
But as for the TT, I think after the midterms I'll of had my fill.

Could their be another reason, you will be leaving in 5 +/- weeks ?
[/quote]

No there couldn't.

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by T And T Garage on 10/08/18 at 19:25:48


2D3E263B3E28385F0 wrote:
[quote author=51724F6C6E75727B1C0 link=1538755614/60#71 date=1539042956][quote author=7D636C6D607D667B090 link=1538755614/60#62 date=1539032366]
But as for the TT, I think after the midterms I'll of had my fill.

Could their be another reason, you will be leaving in 5 +/- weeks ?
[/quote]

Gee, really, I thought he was full of it, long age  ::)
[/quote]

"Long age"?  What the hell does that even mean ray?

Oh wait - is this really mn??

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by T And T Garage on 10/08/18 at 19:27:16


546661707766714E627168030 wrote:
[quote author=263837363B263D20520 link=1538755614/60#67 date=1539038022][quote author=6B595E4F48594E715D4E573C0 link=1538755614/60#65 date=1539035614]You really don't know me at all TT.

I know everything about you.



You see, there's a difference between, "knowing everything about someone" and "knowing who they are".

As in - I know who you are TT. I know the kind of person you are.  That has nothing to do with your name, your address or where you grew up.

It means, I know what to expect in debate.  I know (for the most part) what position you'll take.  I know who you support.

I know your type.  I've seen it a hundred thousand times.

Nothing shocking.  Nothing I can't handle - either here or in real life.

Now, you might think you know me as I explained above, but you have no idea who I am TT.[/quote]
[/quote]

No original thoughts mark?

Once again, you know nothing about me...

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by T And T Garage on 10/08/18 at 19:29:01


635156474051467955465F340 wrote:
[quote author=45665B787A61666F080 link=1538755614/60#71 date=1539042956][quote author=7D636C6D607D667B090 link=1538755614/60#62 date=1539032366]
But as for the TT, I think after the midterms I'll of had my fill.

Could their be another reason, you will be leaving in 5 +/- weeks ?
[/quote]

He's not leaving. He'll keep up with what's going on. It's likely he'll fake a new profile and assume a new identity.[/quote]

Yet another sign that you don't know me at all.

Why the hell would I fake a profile to get on here?  Hmm... maybe you've already done that to "up your conservative friends"?

Now there's a real possibility...   :D

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by T And T Garage on 10/08/18 at 19:30:53


5E4147405D5A6B5B6B53414D06340 wrote:
's likely he'll fake a new profile and assume a new identity.

If I tried that, I'd be busted in minutes.
TT can't cloak himself either.


So, you're already convinced that I will?  No surprise.

Hey, jog - there's a pizza place near you that is a front for a peophilia ring - I heard it from alex jones... why not believe that too??

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by T And T Garage on 10/08/18 at 19:32:14


112F2E22302C2D430 wrote:

Quote:
Someone's gotta show others the truth ...[


Narcissistic personality disorder.

You know. Same thing all the anti Trumpers  and conservative haters  are convinced that the POTUS and anyone who leans right ( politically speaking) is afflicted with.

Mirror Mirror, on the wall.

Funny how that sh*t works.


Yeah, slap your label on it old.  Whatever makes you feel better I guess.  Just remember that good ol' donny is out playing golf laughing at the likes of you.

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by T And T Garage on 10/08/18 at 19:34:49


33203825203626410 wrote:
[quote author=132126373021360925362F440 link=1538755614/60#74 date=1539047400][quote author=45665B787A61666F080 link=1538755614/60#71 date=1539042956][quote author=7D636C6D607D667B090 link=1538755614/60#62 date=1539032366]
But as for the TT, I think after the midterms I'll of had my fill.

Could their be another reason, you will be leaving in 5 +/- weeks ?
[/quote]

He's not leaving. He'll keep up with what's going on. It's likely he'll fake a new profile and assume a new identity.[/quote]

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1538701383
[/quote]

LOL - again ray, you're way off the mark.

It's just not that big a deal.  You and your 5 buddies are pretty much all you have.

Why would I have to make up a profile to come back on here?

My oh my, you think way too highly of yourself.

You just aren't that important in the big scheme of things...

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by T And T Garage on 10/08/18 at 19:35:44

Geez - I'm pummeling you guys like Drew and the Saints are the Redskins tonight!

;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by WebsterMark on 10/08/18 at 19:53:03


Why would I have to make up a profile to come back on here?


Cause you need it.

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by T And T Garage on 10/08/18 at 19:57:00


1B292E3F38293E012D3E274C0 wrote:

Why would I have to make up a profile to come back on here?


Cause you need it.


No, I really don't.

I think you might be speaking for yourself... and I know what kind of guy you are, so...

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by Eegore on 10/09/18 at 06:14:43


 You can post on here without a profile?

 How?

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by WebsterMark on 10/09/18 at 06:41:47

I don't think you can. TT will create another profile after he 'leaves' on here. A couple others have done it and I assume he'll do the same.

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by MnSpring on 10/09/18 at 08:05:00


49696B637E690C0 wrote:
 You can post on here without a profile?  How?

Why would you say that ?

No post said, asked, proposed, anything about
‘posting without a identity/profile’.

Every recent post, in this thread, in the last day,
is about,
assuming a new profile and assuming a new identity.
Every post.
(before tt does his Troll thing, that is every post, discussing, 'assuming new profile/assuming a new identity')

So your asking:
“You can post on here without a profile?”
Does not at all fit.


Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by oldNslow on 10/09/18 at 08:22:42


Quote:
Yeah, slap your label on it old...




Quote:


Geez - I'm pummeling you guys like Drew and the Saints are the Redskins tonight!

Grin Grin Grin


If you truly believe that TT, then I think my "label" is pretty accurate.

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by T And T Garage on 10/09/18 at 09:01:07


457770616677605F736079120 wrote:
I don't think you can. TT will create another profile after he 'leaves' on here. A couple others have done it and I assume he'll do the same.



LOL - look at you, running your mouth with no ideas again.

Seriously mark, did you study to be this ignorant?

Just curious.

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by T And T Garage on 10/09/18 at 09:01:44


0836373B2935345A0 wrote:

Quote:
Yeah, slap your label on it old...



[quote]

Geez - I'm pummeling you guys like Drew and the Saints are the Redskins tonight!

Grin Grin Grin


If you truly believe that TT, then I think my "label" is pretty accurate.[/quote]

I only speak the truth old.

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by WebsterMark on 10/09/18 at 09:35:46

Never finished college. Barely finished high school. It was a waste of time for the most part.

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by oldNslow on 10/09/18 at 09:46:49


Quote:
I only speak the truth old.


Pasting the label on even better.

Can't even see that ?

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by Eegore on 10/09/18 at 10:57:55

"Why would you say that ?

No post said, asked, proposed, anything about
‘posting without a identity/profile’."


 In this post a question was posed:

"Why would I have to make up a profile to come back on here?"

 It was answered with:

"Cause you need it."

 This as I understand it means that when asked why a person would need to make up a profile on the forums the answer is because a profile is needed to join.

 That was followed with:

"No, I really don't.

I think you might be speaking for yourself... and I know what kind of guy you are, so... "


 Which to me reads as a response contradicting the required profile to post concept.  I am unaware of a way to post without a profile and as such I asked.

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by T And T Garage on 10/09/18 at 12:14:27


4C72737F6D71701E0 wrote:

Quote:
I only speak the truth old.


Pasting the label on even better.

Can't even see that ?



So, you're saying that I don't?  Please, feel free to prove that.

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by T And T Garage on 10/09/18 at 12:15:23


526067767160774864776E050 wrote:
Never finished college. Barely finished high school. It was a waste of time for the most part.



Just as I thought.

That says quite a bit.

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by WebsterMark on 10/09/18 at 13:11:57

You're right, it does. It says a lot. I probably pay as much in taxes as you make. You can't hold a candle to me in the working world. Don't try.

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by oldNslow on 10/09/18 at 14:03:21


Quote:
So, you're saying that I don't?  Please, feel free to prove that.


I don't think that's possible. At least not to you.

I'm not talking about things like 2 + 2, or how many inches in a foot. And I'm not calling you a liar.

I am talking about truth with a capital T. Your version of it. Your TRUTH, which  may not be the same as THE TRUTH, or MY TRUTH, but you seem unwilling to even entertain that possibility, and so quite often you resort to ridicule or insults when someone disagrees with you. Sometimes other folks give it right back and then the whole discussion goes  right into the crapper.


Quote:
I only speak the truth...


Your words.  But nobody tells the truth all the time.And nobody is right all the time.

I hope that statement is just rhetorical. If it's meant to be taken literally I doubt that we are likely to have many worthwhile conversations on this little board.  

Speaking of the "TRUTH" I read an interesting comment about Dr. Fords polygraph test which was touted as evidence of her veracity regarding the accusations she made. The gist of the comment was that if a person truly believes he is telling the truth, even if their answer is provably false, they will pass a polygraph. Psychopaths pass polygraphs almost 100% of the time as long as the questions are related to their delusions.

Calling Dr. Ford bat-sh*t crazy might not be much of a stretch.  






Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/09/18 at 14:20:01


6E5C5B4A4D5C4B74584B52390 wrote:
You're right, it does. It says a lot. I probably pay as much in taxes as you make. You can't hold a candle to me in the working world. Don't try.


Look out.
They will be demanding your returns...

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by T And T Garage on 10/09/18 at 14:31:58


0A3435392B3736580 wrote:

Quote:
So, you're saying that I don't?  Please, feel free to prove that.


I don't think that's possible. At least not to you.

I'm not talking about things like 2 + 2, or how many inches in a foot. And I'm not calling you a liar.

I am talking about truth with a capital T. Your version of it. Your TRUTH, which  may not be the same as THE TRUTH, or MY TRUTH, but you seem unwilling to even entertain that possibility, and so quite often you resort to ridicule or insults when someone disagrees with you. Sometimes other folks give it right back and then the whole discussion goes  right into the crapper.

[quote] I only speak the truth...


Your words.  But nobody tells the truth all the time.And nobody is right all the time.

Never said I was, but I don't post lies.  I may post opinions, but not lies.

I hope that statement is just rhetorical. If it's meant to be taken literally I doubt that we are likely to have many worthwhile conversations on this little board.  

Speaking of the "TRUTH" I read an interesting comment about Dr. Fords polygraph test which was touted as evidence of her veracity regarding the accusations she made. The gist of the comment was that if a person truly believes he is telling the truth, even if their answer is provably false, they will pass a polygraph. Psychopaths pass polygraphs almost 100% of the time as long as the questions are related to their delusions.

I still believe her.

Calling Dr. Ford bat-sh*t crazy might not be much of a stretch.  

With your logic, calling brett a drunk isn't that far off the mark either.





[/quote]

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by T And T Garage on 10/09/18 at 14:34:05


675552434455427D51425B300 wrote:
You're right, it does. It says a lot. I probably pay as much in taxes as you make. You can't hold a candle to me in the working world. Don't try.


Really?  I thought you knew me?

LOL - talk about outclassed.  Face it mark, you know nothing about me.

You go ahead and think that you "probably pay more in taxes than I make".  Whatever gets you through the night.
:D

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by WebsterMark on 10/09/18 at 14:35:22

You're hurt cause you know it's true.

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by WebsterMark on 10/09/18 at 14:39:18

Is there a way to delete your own account if you wanted to? Completely wipe it out?

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by T And T Garage on 10/09/18 at 14:40:07


0C3E39282F3E29163A29305B0 wrote:
You're hurt cause you know it's true.


Not at all mark.  I just find it funny that you feel you have to bring it up to make yourself look "better".

Further, you think you know where I sit in the ranks.  Well, it's obvious that you don't.

I hope you're successful - good for you.  But every successful person I know, never has a need to point it out.

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by T And T Garage on 10/09/18 at 14:40:33


427077666170675874677E150 wrote:
Is there a way to delete your own account if you wanted to? Completely wipe it out?


PM the mods.

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/09/18 at 14:42:44

What if there is?
Who cares?
If you're done with the place, just don't come back.

But you shouldn't do that.

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by WebsterMark on 10/09/18 at 14:56:07

na.... I crossed a line. TT is a nobody in my world and I shouldn't pick on him the way I do. Pointing out an income disparity wasn't right of me.
Particularly when I read the Starlifter quote about my daughter. This has gotten to personal.  A distraction between travels is one thing, but letting myself take too much of a cheap shot is another.

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by T And T Garage on 10/09/18 at 15:00:12


645651404756417E524158330 wrote:
na.... I crossed a line. TT is a nobody in my world and I shouldn't pick on him the way I do. Pointing out an income disparity wasn't right of me.
Particularly when I read the Starlifter quote about my daughter. This has gotten to personal.  A distraction between travels is one thing, but letting myself take too much of a cheap shot is another.



Especially when you don't know the person.

A decent man would apologize.

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/09/18 at 15:00:20

When did we start down that road?

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by WebsterMark on 10/10/18 at 10:26:03

You're right. I apologize for bringing our personal and career lives into this. It's not a fair weapon to use in an online fight. We should remain completely anonymous.

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by T And T Garage on 10/10/18 at 10:30:29


340601101706112E021108630 wrote:
You're right. I apologize for bringing our personal and career lives into this. It's not a fair weapon to use in an online fight. We should remain completely anonymous.



Apology accepted.


Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by raydawg on 10/11/18 at 07:35:35


405E51505D405B46340 wrote:
[quote author=340601101706112E021108630 link=1538755614/105#115 date=1539192363]You're right. I apologize for bringing our personal and career lives into this. It's not a fair weapon to use in an online fight. We should remain completely anonymous.



Apology accepted.

[/quote]

Beautiful.......thanks guys.

Civility is such a wonderful element between human interactions.

I feel better from just reading this.

Honest, I ain't jerking out on you guys, thank you for extending the consideration of civility to each other,
BRAVO!

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by MnSpring on 10/12/18 at 11:44:36


495758595449524F3D0 wrote:
...I don't post lies.  I may post opinions, but not lies....

Posting a ‘opinion’, on a opinion, is only a ‘opinion’.  
Regardless of where or who that opinion came from.
Fine, that is a ‘Opinion’.

Yet when someone has, FACTS, available,
Has been TOLD the, FACTS,
and biases his/her ‘opinion’,
on just part of the facts, (and adds SPIN)
And then, Saying, ’that is fact’.

That WOULD be Lying,
by Omission of Facts.

(Remember the guy named, Paul Harvey ?)


For some that may be challenged in the understanding department,
here is a  example.

A number of years ago, 25+, a bullet was advertised.
It was advertised as the … best … etc.

A Group of, ‘anti gunners’, thought they were going to ban guns by banning ammunition.
So they started with that, ’named,’ bullet.

Well they, ’Snow-flaked’, and got  noticed, and when heard,  they said:
'We have to BAN  that Bullet because it KILLS  COPS.
Their were 6 Cops, wearing the Latest FULL  Body Armor,
that were Shot and Killed, with that Bullet.
We have to BAN  that Bullet’


Interesting that, NO ONE, was Notified, NO One else was allowed in the, ‘hearing’, NO ONE said anything countering.
The result, that bullet got Banned.

AND, it was True.
Their WERE, 6 Cops, shot and killed, while wearing the Latest Full BODY Armor.

YET, the ‘anti-gun’ people, LIED.
by omission of facts.
The, ‘Anti-Gunners’, had everyone convinced,
that, ‘bullet’ penetrated the vest,
because they 'LIED',
by not telling the whole truth.

All 6, were shot in the head, where their was NO  body Armor !!!!!
(a .22 short would have done the same thing)

In fact that, ‘Hollow Point expanding bullet’,
(which was banned on a LIE)
had one of the LEAST, penetration factors, even in the OLD style vests.


Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/12/18 at 12:13:15

They spoke the truth
Their truth
That it has no foundation in reality shouldn't be a problem

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by T And T Garage on 10/12/18 at 12:35:48


785B6645475C5B52350 wrote:
[quote author=495758595449524F3D0 link=1538755614/105#105 date=1539120718] ...I don't post lies.  I may post opinions, but not lies....

Posting a ‘opinion’, on a opinion, is only a ‘opinion’.  
Regardless of where or who that opinion came from.
Fine, that is a ‘Opinion’.

Yet when someone has, FACTS, available,
Has been TOLD the, FACTS,
and biases his/her ‘opinion’,
on just part of the facts, (and adds SPIN)
And then, Saying, ’that is fact’.

That WOULD be Lying,
by Omission of Facts.

(Remember the guy named, Paul Harvey ?)


For some that may be challenged in the understanding department,
here is a  example.

A number of years ago, 25+, a bullet was advertised.
It was advertised as the … best … etc.

A Group of, ‘anti gunners’, thought they were going to ban guns by banning ammunition.
So they started with that, ’named,’ bullet.

Well they, ’Snow-flaked’, and got  noticed, and when heard,  they said:
'We have to BAN  that Bullet because it KILLS  COPS.
Their were 6 Cops, wearing the Latest FULL  Body Armor,
that were Shot and Killed, with that Bullet.
We have to BAN  that Bullet’


Interesting that, NO ONE, was Notified, NO One else was allowed in the, ‘hearing’, NO ONE said anything countering.
The result, that bullet got Banned.

AND, it was True.
Their WERE, 6 Cops, shot and killed, while wearing the Latest Full BODY Armor.

YET, the ‘anti-gun’ people, LIED.
by omission of facts.
The, ‘Anti-Gunners’, had everyone convinced,
that, ‘bullet’ penetrated the vest,
because they 'LIED',
by not telling the whole truth.

All 6, were shot in the head, where their was NO  body Armor !!!!!
(a .22 short would have done the same thing)

In fact that, ‘Hollow Point expanding bullet’,
(which was banned on a LIE)
had one of the LEAST, penetration factors, even in the OLD style vests.

[/quote]

I don't know what the hell you're talking about mn.

You rant and rave and make no sense.

Here's what I can say....

This is a lie: "The Earth is made entirely of cheese".

This is an opinion: "The Earth is made up of many things and a lot of cheese".


I do not post lies.  I may post opinion, but never an out and out lie.

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by oldNslow on 10/12/18 at 12:47:21


falsehood

Quote:
 "The Earth is made entirely of cheese".


The moon, on the other hand...

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by Eegore on 10/12/18 at 14:58:03

 MNSpring is talking about how there was an alleged banning of the "cop killer" bullet by referencing 6 law enforcement officers that were wearing full ballistic armor that were killed by the bullet impacting the officer.  The impacts were in the head, not through the body armor.

 I've heard of this but nobody to date has cited a case number that I can look over.

 The term "alleged" in sentence one of this post is chosen as a collective word to encompass the post as a whole.  Since I have no reference material I can not say for sure and have chosen to personally use the word "alleged" to depict my individual perception of the event since I have no references to utilize.  This information when compiled and posted reflects my opinion and should not be considered fact.

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by MnSpring on 10/14/18 at 16:17:42


2D333C3D302D362B590 wrote:
  You rant and rave and make no sense.


Truly unfortunate that you don't not understand.

Guess from now on,
W I L L   H A V E   T O,
U S E   B I G   W O R D S,
A N D     T Y P E,
S   L   O   W   L   Y.
   710

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by eau de sauvage on 10/14/18 at 17:03:41

Proving your point......

Ha, Brainiac is going give a lesson on logic.

Title: Re: Proving your point......
Post by T And T Garage on 10/14/18 at 18:55:17


7C5F624143585F56310 wrote:
[quote author=2D333C3D302D362B590 link=1538755614/120#120 date=1539372948]   You rant and rave and make no sense.


Truly unfortunate that you don't not understand.

Guess from now on,
W I L L   H A V E   T O,
U S E   B I G   W O R D S,
A N D     T Y P E,
S   L   O   W   L   Y.
   710
[/quote]


No mn, you simply don't make sense to anyone.

But you fit in well with the conservatives.  I'm sure they're happy to claim you as their own....

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