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Message started by thumperclone on 10/06/18 at 16:39:29

Title: what the cons are doing
Post by thumperclone on 10/06/18 at 16:39:29

dividing us
they are going to have to start a new war to get us to reunite


pu$$y grabbing lying[how many now?] potus
pu$$y grabbing, drink till you black out and lie about it sc justice


yep it is truly a con job in progress

Title: Re: what the cons are doing
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/06/18 at 16:55:35

What dissociative stress does to snowflakes.
You're Hilarious!
Please, keep entertaining us with your ridiculous Bullshit.

Title: Re: what the cons are doing
Post by thumperclone on 10/07/18 at 04:07:37


27383E3924231222122A38347F4D0 wrote:
What dissociative stress does to snowflakes.
You're Hilarious!
Please, keep entertaining us with your ridiculous Bullshit.



best you got?
calling me names and cussing defines a callow nature

peace be with you

Title: Re: what the cons are doing
Post by Matchless G11 on 10/07/18 at 05:09:38

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pu$$y grabbing lying[how many now?] potus
pu$$y grabbing, drink till you black out and lie about it sc justice


I wonder who started calling the names in the first place?

Title: Re: what the cons are doing
Post by thumperclone on 10/07/18 at 05:24:04

how many posts/years back should we look?
jogs name calling is a personal attack on a forum member mine is not

Title: Re: what the cons are doing
Post by Matchless G11 on 10/07/18 at 05:58:29


283429312C392E3F303332395C0 wrote:
how many posts/years back should we look?
jogs name calling is a personal attack on a forum member mine is not



Thumperclone, while you did not attack a member, you did say things about the president and a judge.
If I was related to them (Which I am not) I might have taken that personally.
But they are people that are voted on and have followers. When they are insulted, the gloves come off.

I am very carefull about what I claim to know. For example I have no good words for Hillay Clinton.

But there are those that say she is a Les,
I disagree with them since I have seen no evidence of such.
I don't like the woman but I want the truth.

The President "may" be a womanizer, But Kavanaugh
only "crime" that is provable is that he looses his cool when attacked.
(And it was a vicious attack as such)

I go with the facts, and only the facts.
Good day.

Title: Re: what the cons are doing
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/07/18 at 06:46:48

I thought when Obama was elected that if nothing else good came out of it, at least America would come together better.
Completely WRONG.

I think it's getting better now.
Because when people are getting jobs, they don't act angry.

Title: Re: what the cons are doing
Post by LostArtist on 10/07/18 at 07:19:20


534C4A4D50576656665E4C400B390 wrote:
I thought when Obama was elected that if nothing else good came out of it, at least America would come together better.
Completely WRONG.

I think it's getting better now.
Because when people are getting jobs, they don't act angry.


seriously?????

you are far more delusional than I thought.

it takes 2 to divide

You're just in a sea of red and now your side is winning so everyone around you isn't angry





Title: Re: what the cons are doing
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/07/18 at 10:44:15

Yes, seriously..

America was much further divided by Obama.
It's getting better,
Ohhh, you meant politically!
The division, the polarization, that's on lefties..
Insane, unhinged, screaming, crying, threatening, doxxing, lefties..

I was thinking about racial division.

And yes, we ARE Winning.

In time, when the results of the changes start to be so obvious that even lefties can't ignore them, you'll realize You're winning too.

Title: Re: what the cons are doing
Post by Eegore on 10/07/18 at 15:32:20

"Because when people are getting jobs, they don't act angry."

 I'd be interested in hearing your logic for this.  I've never heard that employment reduces acts of anger.


Title: Re: what the cons are doing
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/07/18 at 15:57:40

Look at what poverty does.
If I don't waste a day typing it out to your satisfaction
Meh..

Title: Re: what the cons are doing
Post by LostArtist on 10/07/18 at 21:03:18


0A2A28203D2A4F0 wrote:
"Because when people are getting jobs, they don't act angry."

 I'd be interested in hearing your logic for this.  I've never heard that employment reduces acts of anger.


don't hold your breath, logic isn't a strong suit of JOG

Title: Re: what the cons are doing
Post by LostArtist on 10/07/18 at 21:44:17


7C6365627F7849794971636F24160 wrote:
Yes, seriously..

America was much further divided by Obama.
It's getting better,

no, it was divided by Obama's opposition, those that think everything is/was fine and that we were "post racial" while cops shoot unarmed black people and muslims live in fear and hispanics are being profiled .....

All that was replaced by a tiki torch parade and ICE stripping children from their parents and a travel ban....



Ohhh, you meant politically!
The division, the polarization, that's on lefties..
Insane, unhinged, screaming, crying, threatening, doxxing, lefties..


that happened under Obama too, the craziness on the right, the race to being more conservative and who could say the most politically incorrect thing to get ratings on conservative radio, oh how you conservatives cried and cried, "he's destroying America, he wants to kill your grandma!!!, Obama is anti-American, wearing that crazy tan suit, see those flies around Obama??  smells like brimstone", and so on... such craziness

I was thinking about racial division.

And yes, we ARE Winning.

yes we are, THANKS TO OBAMA!  Obama not only got us out of a great recession, he established a secure foundation that not even Trump can screw up, not that Trump isn't trying...  we should be MUCH better off than we are now if Obama was still in office.

"But the average monthly gain under Trump is 189,000 jobs, which is nearly 13 percent below the monthly average of 217,000 during Obama’s second term."

https://www.factcheck.org/2018/07/trumps-numbers-second-quarterly-update/

and Trump even gave his corporate masters a $1.5 TRILLION gift.....  

In time, when the results of the changes start to be so obvious that even lefties can't ignore them, you'll realize You're winning too.


the bottom line, the Ends DON'T justify the Means, and Trump is an A S S H O L E, the fact that he can't accomplish any of his goals without taking extreme measures (separating children, starting a trade war, etc...)  only goes to show his total ineptness as a diplomat and negotiator. He can't even get a Supreme Court Justice approved without mocking a victim...

as a Christian and an American WE ARE BETTER THAN THAT.
 

Title: Re: what the cons are doing
Post by Eegore on 10/08/18 at 08:12:30

"Look at what poverty does.
If I don't waste a day typing it out to your satisfaction
Meh.. "


 So you mean there is less anger in areas with less poverty.  I thought you meant people who are employed are less likely to act on anger.  Either way I don't think that's true, I see a lot of angry people who are not jobless or poor.

Title: Re: what the cons are doing
Post by WebsterMark on 10/08/18 at 08:41:45

I don't think there's any question that Trump divides people like no President ever before. In fact, it's likely he's more divisive that all previous Presidents combined.

That's a fact. It's also not necessarily a bad thing.

I mentioned before, I finally decided to vote for Trump because he was going to divide. I wanted a culture war and I have it.

Title: Re: what the cons are doing
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/08/18 at 08:55:05

Hopefully, we will regain our culture.

Title: Re: what the cons are doing
Post by LostArtist on 10/08/18 at 08:58:09


5A454344595E6F5F6F57454902300 wrote:
Hopefully, we will regain our culture.



your culture is YOUR business, America doesn't stand still for you, time goes on, so sad for you.

Title: Re: what the cons are doing
Post by LostArtist on 10/08/18 at 09:01:38


457770616677605F736079120 wrote:
I don't think there's any question that Trump divides people like no President ever before. In fact, it's likely he's more divisive that all previous Presidents combined.

That's a fact. It's also not necessarily a bad thing.

I mentioned before, I finally decided to vote for Trump because he was going to divide. I wanted a culture war and I have it.



so, the next time you say that liberals are more violent, remember what you just said here.

do you actually understand Christianity AT ALL??    love they neighbor, the good samaritian, Jesus reaching out the the "untouchables"  Jesus' constant search for peace even while he was being tried to be executed.   if you dare claim to be Christian, I'd advise you to take another look into your soul, if you can find it

Title: Re: what the cons are doing
Post by WebsterMark on 10/08/18 at 09:06:54

"I've not come to united, but to divide. I've come to turn a father against his daughter, a mother against her son."

Title: Re: what the cons are doing
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/08/18 at 09:16:24


7655494E7B484E53494E3A0 wrote:
[quote author=457770616677605F736079120 link=1538869170/0#14 date=1539013305]I don't think there's any question that Trump divides people like no President ever before. In fact, it's likely he's more divisive that all previous Presidents combined.

That's a fact. It's also not necessarily a bad thing.

I mentioned before, I finally decided to vote for Trump because he was going to divide. I wanted a culture war and I have it.



so, the next time you say that liberals are more violent, remember what you just said here.

do you actually understand Christianity AT ALL??    love they neighbor, the good samaritian, Jesus reaching out the the "untouchables"  Jesus' constant search for peace even while he was being tried to be executed.   if you dare claim to be Christian, I'd advise you to take another look into your soul, if you can find it[/quote]

You're clueless..

Title: Re: what the cons are doing
Post by LostArtist on 10/08/18 at 09:19:15


6D5F58494E5F48775B48513A0 wrote:
"I've not come to united, but to divide. I've come to turn a father against his daughter, a mother against her son."



that's what you got???   one passage....  I gave you several sprinkled throughout Christ's life and his teachings, showing a real and potent message about the very nature of Christ and how he wants Christians to behave..... but sure, you got one passage, taken out of context.....  


look into what that means, IN CONTEXT, here I'll help you out:

first, more context:
34 “Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35 For I have come to turn

“‘a man against his father,
   a daughter against her mother,
a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law—
36     a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household.’

37 “Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. 38 Whoever does not take up their cross and follow me is not worthy of me. 39 Whoever finds their life will lose it, and whoever loses their life for my sake will find it. – Jesus (Matthew 10:34-38)

"I believe in this passage Jesus is pointing to a reality that many of us are becoming familiar with: his teachings aren’t exactly popular. Following his teachings? Doing the things that Jesus did? Loving the way Jesus loved? Well, at a minimum that’s going to invite conflict into your closest relationships.

The message of Jesus is summarized by “love God and love others”. While that sounds simple, it’s actually controversial. Loving people will always be controversial.

And that means, should you accept this mission to love the world, it will screw up your relationships. In fact, Jesus claims it will put tension on the relationships most close to you. Your parents, in-laws, children… loving God and loving others can potentially put you at odds with anyone who isn’t ready to love quite as radically as you are."


http://www.patheos.com/blogs/formerlyfundie/what-jesus-meant-when-he-said-i-didnt-come-to-bring-peace-but-a-sword/


but if you want to twist that to mean that Jesus wants a culture war....  

I'll pray that you learn love, real love.  


Title: Re: what the cons are doing
Post by LostArtist on 10/08/18 at 09:19:51


293630372A2D1C2C1C24363A71430 wrote:
[quote author=7655494E7B484E53494E3A0 link=1538869170/15#17 date=1539014498][quote author=457770616677605F736079120 link=1538869170/0#14 date=1539013305]I don't think there's any question that Trump divides people like no President ever before. In fact, it's likely he's more divisive that all previous Presidents combined.

That's a fact. It's also not necessarily a bad thing.

I mentioned before, I finally decided to vote for Trump because he was going to divide. I wanted a culture war and I have it.



so, the next time you say that liberals are more violent, remember what you just said here.

do you actually understand Christianity AT ALL??    love they neighbor, the good samaritian, Jesus reaching out the the "untouchables"  Jesus' constant search for peace even while he was being tried to be executed.   if you dare claim to be Christian, I'd advise you to take another look into your soul, if you can find it[/quote]

You're clueless..
[/quote]


ditto dittohead!  

Title: Re: what the cons are doing
Post by WebsterMark on 10/08/18 at 09:50:19

but if you want to twist that to mean that Jesus wants a culture war....  

I'll pray that you learn love, real love.  


Easy there Lost. I'm aware you despise me with the energy of 10,000 burning suns... but take a breath for crying out loud.

I don't need to copy and paste someone's else's interpretation of the passage.  

My point is, I decided I wanted the nuttiness of the leftist arm of the Democratic party on full display and that's what I got. Clearly calling out what the differences are, in the long run, is how progress is made.

Booker, Harris, Feinstein are all very, very bad for the country and for the Democrats. They won't win with them. They're angry all the time. This quest for power is driving them to abandon all pretense of reason.

Trump did that, he drove them to that state. This whole Kavanaugh thing was always about Trump. They were will to sacrifice a man's life, his career, his family, anything to harm Trump.

The Dems will lose in November, or at the very least, not gain what they should. Hopefully they'll learn a lesson and evolve. Remember, Trump was essentially a 3rd party candidate. The Republicans didn't want him but the Republican voters did so they dragged the Republican party leadership kicking and screaming along with them.

You need someone on the Democratic side to do the same. Someone who'll put country first. Someone who'll stop their self-destruction. If they put up Booker, Harris or Warren; they'll be screwed for a long time. I don't know who can rally what's left of historical Democrats in this country.

Title: Re: what the cons are doing
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/08/18 at 10:00:05

I don't know who can rally what's left of historical Democrats in this country.


They've become hysterical democrats.

Title: Re: what the cons are doing
Post by LostArtist on 10/08/18 at 10:11:20


1C2E29383F2E39062A39204B0 wrote:
but if you want to twist that to mean that Jesus wants a culture war....  

I'll pray that you learn love, real love.  


Easy there Lost. I'm aware you despise me with the energy of 10,000 burning suns... but take a breath for crying out loud.

you started it


I don't need to copy and paste someone's else's interpretation of the passage.  

My point is, I decided I wanted the nuttiness of the leftist arm of the Democratic party on full display and that's what I got. Clearly calling out what the differences are, in the long run, is how progress is made.

Booker, Harris, Feinstein are all very, very bad for the country and for the Democrats. They won't win with them. They're angry all the time. This quest for power is driving them to abandon all pretense of reason.

as happened with the conservatives, that's how you got Trump

Trump did that, he drove them to that state. This whole Kavanaugh thing was always about Trump. They were will to sacrifice a man's life, his career, his family, anything to harm Trump.

you are WAY overstating that. it was a promotion interview. if he didn't get the promotion he goes on with his rich white man life the way it always was,, that's it, but you had to shove him into the Supreme court, just because he may be innocent doesn't mean he gets rewarded for it. You had other candidates you could have tried, but no, you had to shove this guy in...  this partisan frat boy hack.  



The Dems will lose in November, or at the very least, not gain what they should. Hopefully they'll learn a lesson and evolve. Remember, Trump was essentially a 3rd party candidate. The Republicans didn't want him but the Republican voters did so they dragged the Republican party leadership kicking and screaming along with them.

I doubt that, the blue wave is coming, stronger than ever.


You need someone on the Democratic side to do the same. Someone who'll put country first. Someone who'll stop their self-destruction. If they put up Booker, Harris or Warren; they'll be screwed for a long time. I don't know who can rally what's left of historical Democrats in this country.


anyone would be better than Trump, Trump puts Trump first only, anything that gets people like you to suck him off is what he does, he must love that white man love... better than any of his wives so far, the only thing he's been loyal to



I wasn't an a s s h o l e when I first started posting here, the conservatives on this board have made me this way, I'd argue with SirMick about religion for days and days, and never turned into this, JOG used to be mildly interesting in some of his posts, conspiracy laden, maybe, but if you didn't take them seriously you could at least be entertained and maybe find a new way of looking at things through them, for YEARS now, everything he posts here is a liberal slam, between JOG, MNsprings and you, you've closed my mind to ANYTHING conservative, I used to be squarely centrist, now because of the hate you three have spread here, I'm proudly liberal, your side has lost all reason, you voted Trump for God's sake, the racist New York womanizing  conman...   and you think the liberal left has lost their mind???  



Title: Re: what the cons are doing
Post by LostArtist on 10/08/18 at 10:12:02


342B2D2A3730013101392B276C5E0 wrote:
I don't know who can rally what's left of historical Democrats in this country.


They've become hysterical democrats.



and you were all hysterical conservatives when Obama won in 2008...  wait and see

Title: Re: what the cons are doing
Post by WebsterMark on 10/08/18 at 10:13:27

you are WAY overstating that. it was a promotion interview. if he didn't get the promotion he goes on with his rich white man life the way it always was,, that's it, but you had to shove him into the Supreme court, just because he may be innocent doesn't mean he gets rewarded for it. You had other candidates you could have tried, but no, you had to shove this guy in...  this partisan frat boy hack.

wow......   rich white man's life? just because he may be innocent.....  partisan frat boy......

Title: Re: what the cons are doing
Post by WebsterMark on 10/08/18 at 10:15:37

anyone would be better than Trump, Trump puts Trump first only, anything that gets people like you to suck him off is what he does, he must love that white man love...

Tell  you what Lost; I'm going to ignore you and you should ignore me. I sense you've gone a bit to far into this semi-fantasy world of internet forums.

Title: Re: what the cons are doing
Post by Eegore on 10/08/18 at 10:55:32

"I wasn't an a s s h o l e when I first started posting here, the conservatives on this board have made me this way, I'd argue with SirMick about religion for days and days, and never turned into this, JOG used to be mildly interesting in some of his posts, conspiracy laden, maybe, but if you didn't take them seriously you could at least be entertained and maybe find a new way of looking at things through them, for YEARS now, everything he posts here is a liberal slam, between JOG, MNsprings and you, you've closed my mind to ANYTHING conservative, I used to be squarely centrist, now because of the hate you three have spread here, I'm proudly liberal, your side has lost all reason, you voted Trump for God's sake, the racist New York womanizing  conman...   and you think the liberal left has lost their mind???   "

 Nobody makes you an a s s h o l e, you choose to become one because you choose to not use more productive means of communication.

"between JOG, MNsprings and you, you've closed my mind to ANYTHING conservative, I used to be squarely centrist, now because of the hate you three have spread here, I'm proudly liberal"

 If you let three people on a motorcycle forum change your views or values, especially due to anger, then you might want to get out more, talk to people that want to talk instead of tell you that they are right and you are wrong.  I recommend not getting upset to begin with, who cares what anyone else thinks on here, its not like they are out in the world changing policy or law.

Title: Re: what the cons are doing
Post by MnSpring on 10/08/18 at 11:26:01


74574B4C794A4C514B4C380 wrote:
   the conservatives on this board have made me this way,


OK  Got it.
It’s, someone else’s fault.
Not yours.

Thanks for informing us.
Most certainly then,
that the guy in Toronto who Kicked the girl.
It was not his fault.
It was the fault of the ’sign’ she was caring.

Got it.


Title: Re: what the cons are doing
Post by LostArtist on 10/08/18 at 13:23:28


7555575F4255300 wrote:
"I wasn't an a s s h o l e when I first started posting here, the conservatives on this board have made me this way, I'd argue with SirMick about religion for days and days, and never turned into this, JOG used to be mildly interesting in some of his posts, conspiracy laden, maybe, but if you didn't take them seriously you could at least be entertained and maybe find a new way of looking at things through them, for YEARS now, everything he posts here is a liberal slam, between JOG, MNsprings and you, you've closed my mind to ANYTHING conservative, I used to be squarely centrist, now because of the hate you three have spread here, I'm proudly liberal, your side has lost all reason, you voted Trump for God's sake, the racist New York womanizing  conman...   and you think the liberal left has lost their mind???   "

 Nobody makes you an a s s h o l e, you choose to become one because you choose to not use more productive means of communication.

seems to be working the best of any previous communication attempts, I'd try to talk reason, nuance, even say, just a different point of view, and these jerks just laugh it off and make me out to be the liberal crybaby snowflake...  , say I was delusional, stupid, etc.... this has been going on for years on this forum now, now F them, You want to be reasonable, fine, but trust me, they don't care about anything you say, so why bother?



"between JOG, MNsprings and you, you've closed my mind to ANYTHING conservative, I used to be squarely centrist, now because of the hate you three have spread here, I'm proudly liberal"

 If you let three people on a motorcycle forum change your views or values, especially due to anger, then you might want to get out more, talk to people that want to talk instead of tell you that they are right and you are wrong.  I recommend not getting upset to begin with, who cares what anyone else thinks on here, its not like they are out in the world changing policy or law.




yeah, they changed me, I didn't want to BE LIKE THEM, to be that angry, to be that disrespectful, to be callous and rude and proud to be "politically incorrect"   words do actually have power, they can be abusive, and I'm done taking their crap,  so now it's my time to stand up for myself and give it back.

and yes, they are out there in the real world, voting, talking to their friends, trying to persuade others and be opinion leaders in their communities, you think what happens here stays here?  I'm pretty sure the word "libtard" probably started on a board just like this one and now every jerk conservative that wants to demean someone who disagrees with him calls that person a libtard or worse. maybe now they'll see that they create what they hate, they get to reap what they sow.  

how many times have people here tried to regain a civil nature to this board, one side does it for a day, then the other side does it another day, no one ever sticks to it, we can't just discuss issues without casting aspersions on the whole other side and everyone belonging to that side.

these guys just woke me up to how conservatives really are. but don't worry, "I assume, some are good people...."  I know politicians play politics, they lie on both sides, then say only the other side is scum, but I've NEVER seen a side betray their own morals to get power as fast as republicans and conservatives did when they voted for Trump.  if they can betray themselves for power, what do you think they are going to do to us?  


oh and for the record, on topic of this thread, I'm fine with this guy getting charged and going through the legal process and all that, he shouldn't have been violent towards anyone, used to be a time when each side would assume the other side would just agree on that by default, but now when one crazy does something like this everyone takes it as a way to cast everyone on that side in a similar light, "they must all be crazy violet nutjobs..." now painting everyone with a broad brush has now become the standard instead. and no, I don't know which side started doing that first, but that it's done here, no matter how nuanced the actual argument is...  time and time again, instead of talking to each other we just use each other as caricatures of the other side if we dare disagree with each other


Title: Re: what the cons are doing
Post by LostArtist on 10/08/18 at 13:32:54


675552434455427D51425B300 wrote:
anyone would be better than Trump, Trump puts Trump first only, anything that gets people like you to suck him off is what he does, he must love that white man love...

Tell  you what Lost; I'm going to ignore you and you should ignore me. I sense you've gone a bit to far into this semi-fantasy world of internet forums.



you need some time to go find your balls....  take it

Title: Re: what the cons are doing
Post by Eegore on 10/09/18 at 06:30:26

"but trust me, they don't care about anything you say, so why bother?"

 Why would they care?  This is a motorcycle forum we join by choice.  We don't have to care about anything on here, I certainly don't expect any of you to have personal investment in my thought process.

"yeah, they changed me, I didn't want to BE LIKE THEM, to be that angry, to be that disrespectful, to be callous and rude and proud to be "politically incorrect" "

 You changed by choice, or inability to diversify your communication or assessment methods.  Nobody here can "change you" unless you want them to.  I mean if they were physically damaging you then yeah fight back, but words on a forum you choose to join?  People personally attack me on here all the time, and I am 50% responsible for that because I log in and keep typing.

Title: Re: what the cons are doing
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/09/18 at 08:17:50

Gee, IIRC, it wasn't all that long ago that I was told
That's blaming others for your behavior.


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