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Message started by T And T Garage on 10/08/18 at 14:37:39

Title: Stop And Think
Post by T And T Garage on 10/08/18 at 14:37:39

Something that trump will never do.

Now he thinks he knows what to do in Chicago??

What a putz....

http://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-visits-florida-rosenstein-talk-security-155425319--politics.html

Hey there you orange turd - "stop and frisk" was deemed unconstitutional in NY - why the hell do you think that we want that moronic practice here??

Seriously, he so dumb it must hurt....

Title: Re: Stop And Think
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/08/18 at 16:10:33

Wouldn't you like to recognize the unconstitutional laws that have helped create the war zone where law abiding citizens can only duck when the gangbangers open fire?
Something needs done. What did Lord Bammy do?
Suddenly you're all Mr. Constitution.

Ha,  

Title: Re: Stop And Think
Post by T And T Garage on 10/08/18 at 16:31:59


3B242225383F0E3E0E36242863510 wrote:
Wouldn't you like to recognize the unconstitutional laws that have helped create the war zone where law abiding citizens can only duck when the gangbangers open fire?

Yep - shows what you know.  It's far more dangerous to be in St. Louis than it is in Chicago.

But who cares about facts, right jog?

Tell you what - you keep thinking that and stay the hell out of Chicago.  We're far better off without the likes of you.

Something needs done. What did Lord Bammy do?
Suddenly you're all Mr. Constitution.

No, I'm Mr. Real World.  You should visit there once in a while.  BTW, several years during Obama's term the crime rate in Chicago went down.  But then again, the president has very little to do with it.  Too bad your orange saviour doesn't know that - he's making a bigger fool of himself.

Ha,  


Yeah, it's funny how little you know.

Title: Re: Stop And Think
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/08/18 at 18:09:40

shows what you know.  It's far more dangerous to be in St. Louis than it is in Chicago.

That somewhere else is worse makes chitcago good.
Logic fail

Title: Re: Stop And Think
Post by T And T Garage on 10/08/18 at 19:49:01


657A7C7B6661506050687A763D0F0 wrote:
shows what you know.  It's far more dangerous to be in St. Louis than it is in Chicago.

That somewhere else is worse makes chitcago good.
Logic fail


That you seem to forget that is sad.  But hey, you love to be led around by your nose from your saviour trump, huh?  He can do no wrong in your eyes.

Why would you suddenly care about facts?

Oh, and cute that you call it "chitcago".

My how clever.

Title: Re: Stop And Think
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/08/18 at 21:35:13

That somewhere else is worse makes chitcago good.
Logic fail

I forgot nothing
It's immaterial
Chitcago is a shithole.
That another place is sh!ttier doesn't Change anything.

Title: Re: Stop And Think
Post by WebsterMark on 10/09/18 at 05:07:11

We had three killings last night in St Louis. All within a mile of each other. I don't even have to read the story to know the details of what happened.

I'll return to my 2nd vs 4th argument.  Our leftist friends are perfectly happy and enthusiastic about dismantling the 2nd Amendment but will fight against giving police the ability to stop and frisk based upon their experience of being an officer in the field.

The argument is it punishes the innocent and relies on profiling. Yet when I say 99.9% of guns are never used in a crime and question why I should have my rights and choices diminished in the name of safety. I'm told to shut up and sit down.

Leftist are destroying our nation.

Title: Re: Stop And Think
Post by Eegore on 10/09/18 at 05:48:11


 What dismantling of the 2nd Amendment has happened?

 Crime in many areas is increasing, I hear the argument that its because of attacks on the 2nd Amendment, but I haven't seen anything about the 2nd Amendment changed.

 And yes I have proposed altering, not removing, as in taking away in its entirety, the phrase "well regulated militia" for those of you that are going to bring that up.

Title: Re: Stop And Think
Post by T And T Garage on 10/09/18 at 05:56:23


043631202736211E322138530 wrote:
We had three killings last night in St Louis. All within a mile of each other. I don't even have to read the story to know the details of what happened.

I'll return to my 2nd vs 4th argument.  Our leftist friends are perfectly happy and enthusiastic about dismantling the 2nd Amendment but will fight against giving police the ability to stop and frisk based upon their experience of being an officer in the field.

The argument is it punishes the innocent and relies on profiling. Yet when I say 99.9% of guns are never used in a crime and question why I should have my rights and choices diminished in the name of safety. I'm told to shut up and sit down.

Leftist are destroying our nation.


No, it's not mark.  Didn't you just post about how mitch the turtle is "saving America"?

Please - the only thing that's destroying America are the corporations that buy our politicians.  And trump.

Title: Re: Stop And Think
Post by WebsterMark on 10/09/18 at 06:01:50

What dismantling of the 2nd Amendment has happened?

Crime in many areas is increasing, I hear the argument that its because of attacks on the 2nd Amendment, but I haven't seen anything about the 2nd Amendment changed.

And yes I have proposed altering, not removing, as in taking away in its entirety, the phrase "well regulated militia" for those of you that are going to bring that up.


If you don't think they 2nd Amendment is under attack, then I'd have to ask where are you living?

And you may not have proposed that, but plenty of others who are running for political offices which give them certain powers, are.

You see only the good in people and analyze issues with the razor sharp mind of a retired accountant, but one look at the lunacy of the left that went on during the Kavanaugh confirmation should tell you a lot.

Title: Re: Stop And Think
Post by Eegore on 10/09/18 at 06:05:57

 I haven't asked if its under attack, I asked what has changed.

"What dismantling of the 2nd Amendment has happened?"

 To clarify I am asking specifically what portions of the 2nd Amendment have been changed or otherwise altered.

"You see only the good in people "

 I just sat through an analysis and forensic review of a 3 year old female that was bitten by her father over her genitals so hard that it left an identifiable dental imprint.  I don't see a lot of good in people in general, but I don't treat ideas as facts.

 People have ideas of changing the 2nd Amendment, but it still looks the same to me.
 

Title: Re: Stop And Think
Post by T And T Garage on 10/09/18 at 06:07:55


7656545C4156330 wrote:
 I haven't asked if its under attack, I asked what has changed.

"What dismantling of the 2nd Amendment has happened?"

 To clarify I am asking specifically what portions of the 2nd Amendment have been changed or otherwise altered.

 



I KNOW!  I KNOW!!  PICK ME!!!

Ahem.... none.

Title: Re: Stop And Think
Post by WebsterMark on 10/09/18 at 06:49:23

People have ideas of changing the 2nd Amendment, but it still looks the same to me.

That line of argument is beneath you. Of course the amendment remains the same. Are you telling me you're unaware of the slow creep of restrictions on gun ownership?

Every state that passes an added layer of actions that must be taken prior to an abortion are doing that for the sole purpose to make it more difficult to obtain a constitutionally protected abortion. I know that, you know that. Laws that required an affiliated hospital physical on site at all times or ones that require an on site ambulance with full staff on only to make it so expensive to stay open, the clinic will close.

The same is true for gun laws. The plan is to make it difficult so as to lower ownership. That's an attack on the 2nd Amendment.

Title: Re: Stop And Think
Post by Serowbot on 10/09/18 at 07:36:18

The annual war on Christmas is coming up,... you know.... the one where every place you go, you're inundated with Christmas decorations and music that Republicans can't see or hear...
Tis the season...  :-?

Title: Re: Stop And Think
Post by WebsterMark on 10/09/18 at 07:48:42

Says the guy who screams bloody murder and sees a new Iron Curtain descending because we rightly wanted to restrict immigrants from countries with little or no passport control....    

We all have tunnel vision and turn the 1% into the 99%.

Title: Re: Stop And Think
Post by T And T Garage on 10/09/18 at 09:07:14


497B7C6D6A7B6C537F6C751E0 wrote:
People have ideas of changing the 2nd Amendment, but it still looks the same to me.

That line of argument is beneath you. Of course the amendment remains the same. Are you telling me you're unaware of the slow creep of restrictions on gun ownership?

What slow creep?  Tell us all how the big bad government is coming to take all your guns away... Oh that's right, they're not.

Every state that passes an added layer of actions that must be taken prior to an abortion are doing that for the sole purpose to make it more difficult to obtain a constitutionally protected abortion. I know that, you know that. Laws that required an affiliated hospital physical on site at all times or ones that require an on site ambulance with full staff on only to make it so expensive to stay open, the clinic will close.

The same is true for gun laws. The plan is to make it difficult so as to lower ownership. That's an attack on the 2nd Amendment.


HA!!  Good one.  "Attack on the Second Amendment" - that's rich!

Title: Re: Stop And Think
Post by MnSpring on 10/09/18 at 09:41:47


706E61606D706B76040 wrote:
 What slow creep?  Tell us all how the big bad government is coming to take all your guns away... Oh that's right, they're not.


Can you elaborate on the Gun Laws in Chicago/Ill.
And show how the restrictions on gun ownership/use, that applies to all honest citizens, has reduced the crime rate in Chicago ?

Can you elaborate, on how the crime rate went down in FL, when they many years ago, allowed carry law/s.
And EVERY other State that did that.

Can you elaborate, on how Cities, with very, 'controlling' gun laws, have much higher crime rates, than those that don't.

(Oh That right, as far as Chicago goes, it's, 'Someones Else's Fault')

Title: Re: Stop And Think
Post by Eegore on 10/09/18 at 10:46:32


"The same is true for gun laws. The plan is to make it difficult so as to lower ownership. That's an attack on the 2nd Amendment. "

 Yes.  When I stated:

"I haven't asked if its under attack, I asked what has changed."

 I was intending to convey that I am aware that there is a perception that the Second Amendment is under attack and as such I was not attempting to ask or question if there is a perceived attack.  I was attempting to ask if structurally the Amendment has changed.

 In this portion:

"To clarify I am asking specifically what portions of the 2nd Amendment have been changed or otherwise altered."

 I mean to question if there are deviances in the structure or application of the Second Amendment as it appears historically in the Constitution than it does today.  

 

Title: Re: Stop And Think
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/09/18 at 10:50:06

Whether there has been change in the amendment or not, it's obvious that a faction in the government
Wants to take the guns.

Or
Mr.and Mrs.America, turn them all in

Wouldn't be a quote.

Look it up.
Read the context.

Title: Re: Stop And Think
Post by WebsterMark on 10/09/18 at 10:58:28

...or application of the Second Amendment as it appears historically in the Constitution than it does today.  

Does a bear crap in the woods?

Title: Re: Stop And Think
Post by T And T Garage on 10/09/18 at 12:12:41


6C4F725153484F46210 wrote:
[quote author=706E61606D706B76040 link=1539034659/15#15 date=1539101234]  What slow creep?  Tell us all how the big bad government is coming to take all your guns away... Oh that's right, they're not.


Can you elaborate on the Gun Laws in Chicago/Ill.
And show how the restrictions on gun ownership/use, that applies to all honest citizens, has reduced the crime rate in Chicago ?

Nope.  I've already explained it to you.  Not my fault you didn't learn.  Suffice it to say mn, you think laws stop bad guys?  Ha!

Can you elaborate, on how the crime rate went down in FL, when they many years ago, allowed carry law/s.
And EVERY other State that did that.

Can you elaborate, on how Cities, with very, 'controlling' gun laws, have much higher crime rates, than those that don't.

You better be careful - Eegore's gonna rip you a new one.  He's the stat hawk, and I'll bet you don't have any..

(Oh That right, as far as Chicago goes, it's, 'Someones Else's Fault')
[/quote]

Nope, it's our fault.  But we're just not as bad as most other big cities.  St. Louis for example...

Title: Re: Stop And Think
Post by WebsterMark on 10/09/18 at 13:16:08

Nope, it's our fault.  But we're just not as bad as most other big cities.  St. Louis for example...

True. Proportionally, at least last year if I recall, St Louis and Baltimore were neck and neck for murder capital.  Our inner cities are, as Trump correctly pointed out, aren't much better than the $hitholes like Hatti.  Like most major US cities, we've been run by Democrats for generations.

Title: Re: Stop And Think
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/09/18 at 14:24:51

Like most failing major US cities, we've been run by Democrats for generations.


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There, FIFY

Title: Re: Stop And Think
Post by T And T Garage on 10/09/18 at 14:28:34


162423323524330C20332A410 wrote:
Nope, it's our fault.  But we're just not as bad as most other big cities.  St. Louis for example...

True. Proportionally, at least last year if I recall, St Louis and Baltimore were neck and neck for murder capital.  Our inner cities are, as Trump correctly pointed out, aren't much better than the $hitholes like Hatti.  Like most major US cities, we've been run by Democrats for generations.



Yeah, it's got nothing to do with poverty, or lack of opportunity or anything...  <<< sarcasm

Title: Re: Stop And Think
Post by T And T Garage on 10/09/18 at 14:29:02


77686E6974734272427A68642F1D0 wrote:
Like most failing major US cities, we've been run by Democrats for generations.


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There, FIFY


"FIFY"?

Title: Re: Stop And Think
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/09/18 at 14:31:08

Yeah, FIFY..
LOOK IT UP.

Title: Re: Stop And Think
Post by T And T Garage on 10/09/18 at 14:36:13


4F5056514C4B7A4A7A42505C17250 wrote:
Yeah, FIFY..
LOOK IT UP.



Oh, cool.  Fixed it for you.

My, you know all the lingo, huh jog?

:D

Title: Re: Stop And Think
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/09/18 at 14:38:59

eah, it's got nothing to do with poverty, or lack of opportunity or anything...  <<< sarcasm

Points I made long before you.

Title: Re: Stop And Think
Post by T And T Garage on 10/09/18 at 14:42:43


524D4B4C51566757675F4D410A380 wrote:
eah, it's got nothing to do with poverty, or lack of opportunity or anything...  <<< sarcasm

Points I made long before you.


Hey, good for you jog!  What an accomplishment!  You realize then it's not about party, but about poverty, lack of opportunity and, let's face it, race.

It's about time you have a cogent post - good on you!!

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